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Kommentar von 9156

This Skill is very useful against rogues espicially if you have the upgraded Ret Aura talent. This can hit a rogue for 20 damage everytime he hits you and anyone whos every fought a rogue before knows thats a lot. In some matches this talent can do as much as 500 damage to an opposing rogue.

Its a double edged sword however though. Fighting Rogues is pretty much all it is practical for. It doesnt do any damage for ranged attacks and will barely hurt an enemy attacking you with a two hander of any kind or a dual wielding warrior.

Kommentar von 24111

I just so totaly hate Paladins using this in PvP when there are clothers in their team.

Kommentar von 35757

Out of interest, how much (if at all) does +spell damage affect this?

Kommentar von 34354

The damage this spell deals have been buffed by what looks like 100%

Kommentar von 169060

when u're low level..which aura do u prefer? devo or ret? just wanna do some quick leveling..thx

Kommentar von 75419

it's really wierd how many points a prot AoE pally would want to put into Retri...
17 easy and can easily see 23-4... I get they want the names to match,
but frankly retribution aura was for AoE Prot Pallies and Sanctity Aura for Retri

Kommentar von 216756

Will this aura have same effect as it have in TBC ?

Will it show as my damage, or the damage of the meber thats effected by it ?

In TBC the damage of retribution aura is low so it suck and its worthless...and also dont shows as my damage.

And is there going to be Sancuarity aura in WoTLK ?

Kommentar von 185181

so then what will a lvl 80 ret pally in pretty decent gear be expected to hit with this aura? like.... well lets see if its 112 damage base plus the 50% bonus that puts it at 168 base and if its a 6.6% spell power( as someone said above) the with about 800 SP(just guessing) then 800*0.066 is 52and then 168+52 is 220 so at 220 damage per hit this is IMO a very good lvling addition.... damnit now i have to go and respec to get this..... oh wait im not able to get this rank of it yet so i will just put points in it the two lvls before lvl 76 or w/e lvl u get this at lol

sorry for the poor grammar i am really tired lol

Kommentar von 67552

Veeeeeeeeery useful when running people you don't know through instances, especially to *!@# them off for your amusement. I picked up 2 Lvl 8's for RFC spamming Trade for RFC run thru. I acted like a noob, neglected the use of consecration, and killed everything with ret aura. No XP, no loot, no nothing. They got ^&*!ed after that run :)

Kommentar von dreadblood

a handy trick for tanks, if you have another pala in the group get them to use devo so you can concentrate on gettin threat and you get more armour, huzzah!

Kommentar von 165543

does this scale with AP?

Kommentar von 483566

This skill with https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=31869 plus https://www.wowhead.com/cata/spell=25988 would really hurt against rouges and feral druids (especially those in cat form)
Druids in cat form attack REALLY FAST having near 1 attack speed
this means 168 holy damage (thats with talent) back at them every second.
1680 holy damage after 10 hits. and 10 hits from a cat doesn't hurt as much as what the pally can do to them

Kommentar von JASP01

First comment!

Anyhow... this is for PROT Pallies.

The extra damage may be confusing for some newer Ret Pallies, but think of it this way:

-If your Ret, you won't have threat
-If your Prot and you're attacked with this and Righteous Fury, your AoE threat goes up pretty well

Also, don't use Devotion Aura over this, unless you don't have a choice (Melee Boss hitting too hard... like say if you were tanking Alagon the Observer, it might be smart, if you had enough threat, to pull up Devotion Aura)... but typically, you'd use this.

Kommentar von 114960

Typically when you make a "use this over that" comment, you should be prepared to be downrated. All spells and abilities are situational, and a choice should be made every time which aura to use. Remember that you're not bound to any one aura: you can actually change them in fight. Actually, it's often pretty important to do so!

Let's round the benefits up here, from a tanking point of view:

Aura der Hingabe
This is still the prime tanking spell. Why? Because it typically reduces incoming damage, and that what a tank is for. A dead tank is a bad tank, and this aura actually helps preventing that from happening. According to sources like Elitist Jerks, personal experience and guild member's experience, Paladin tank threat is not an issue at this moment. If 4 mobs are beating on you with melee attacks and you don't have threat problems, why do that minimal amount of extra damage when you can help the healer out with taking considerably less damage?
The biggest drawback of this aura is that it doesn't work against magical attacks, of course.

Aura der Vergeltung
This aura right here. You listed the benefits of this aura in your post: doing some AoE threat. It only does a minimal amount of damage, but naturally the threat is boosted. Also, it's passive damage: you don't have to do anything to deal it except having the mobs beat on you. Retribution Paladins used to have a talent to increase this aura's usefulness, but they do not any more. So it's fair game to any Paladin. It's better for AoE situations which are easy. Again, if you're in a tough heroic or in a raid, why do a little more threat instead of mitigating more damage.

Aura der Konzentration
Not directly useful for tanks, but it's a group thing. If you, as a tank, having an easy time surviving but the casters are getting hit by whatever mobs or bosses are throwing at them, this is the right choice. Especially healers benefit from this a lot, because less cast time reduction means faster and more heals, which equals people staying alive easier.

Aura des Kreuzfahrers
If you have enabled this, you have forgotten to change to a useful aura (safe for situations in instances and raids where you have to mount up).

Aura des Widerstands
Basically the magical damage variant of Devotion Aura. It reduces magical damage not only to the tank, but to all party and raid members. When in a magic-heavy fight where survivability might be an issue, this is the prime choice. Even if the tank doesn't suffer as much magical damage, but the other group members might, this could be a good choice. However, keep in mind that if they're suffering a lot of pushbacks because of it, Concentration Aura might be better.

In short, not one aura is "the" aura for any specific type of Paladin. As a Retribution Paladin in a difficult instance, I would still use Devotion Aura to help the tank(s), or perhaps Resistance Aura in magical-heavy fights. You should decide upon the most useful aura when the situation changes. Don't use just one aura all the time,... on a phase change, when switching from physical to magical damage, change aura's. If you outgear the place, or there's no need for worry, feel free to use Retribution Aura for that extra damage.

Kommentar von JASP01

1. I agree they are situational, BUT in "normal" fights, where it could go either way, this is often preferred, especially at the beginning when you're building up threat.
2.

Also, don't use Devotion Aura over this, unless you don't have a choice (Melee Boss hitting too hard... like say if you were tanking Alagon the Observer, it might be smart, if you had enough threat, to pull up Devotion Aura)... but typically, you'd use this.

Kommentar von blackbone

Something seems buggy about it.
I got it on a shadowpriest in ungoro, orgrimmar, and silithus. Probably other zones as well.

It seems to be a very low level retrib aura, since the mobs pretty much resist it 99% of the time.
How it got on me... no idea though.

Kommentar von Ronark

Damage from Retribution aura is affected and increased by Inquisition, meaning that if all base auras are covered, a Ret paladin should be running this aura (due to having the highest uptime of Inquisition).

Kommentar von videotape

I have the same thing right now on my level 50 hunter, just running around leveling skinning. Zone doesn't seem to matter. Also just spoke with a level 54 pally running ST. She has her devo up, and also has this low level ret aura. Only pally in the group.

Maybe a bug that affects level 50-5xish characters? (guessing since you were in un'goro and silithus).

The aura disappears while mounted or on a taxi. Just landed in Org, ret aura is back up. Weird...

Kommentar von 709078

You most likely got it from doing quests in Eastern Plaguelands. It comes from one of those two paladins that follow you around through their questlines.

Kommentar von 242255

If you were doing quests in EPL's Light's Hope Chapel, you might have gotten Tarenar Sunstrike and Gidwin Goldbraids to follow you around.

Tarenar uses Retribution Aura and Gidwin uses Devotion Aura. For some reason the auras stay on you even if you switched zones (and they do not follow you anymore).

Kommentar von Feranda

Some things about retribution aura and threat:

Base threat: (damage * 2) = threat
Threat with Righteous Fury: (damage * 2) * 3 = threat

Basicly with ilvl ~359 gear without buffs your retribution aura hits around 1.2k everytime someone melee hits you, which makes retribution aura very potential for AoE tanking. Retribution aura procs only melee hits that are not dodged/parried, so which actually hits you. Absorbed and blocked hits proc retribution aura.

Kommentar von 629499

When raiding, you'll find that you'll only need to use ret or concentration aura. (shadow priest shadow resistance)(shaman glyph of healing stream or whatever)(shaman stoneskin)

Kommentar von 910266

for some reason my retribution aura button shows a higher damage than the buff i receive shows.. not sure why... I've also noticed while leveling that if you do not "refresh" your aura's after leveling, the aura doesn't upgrade.. i.e. i didn't turn off my devotion aura since leveling for about 20 levels until i realized that it was only giving me 46 additional armor.. turning it off and back on fixed the problem but retribution aura seems to still not cause the amount of damage that the tooltip on the spell itself states

Kommentar von 624792

Memo to all Paladins:

Retribution Aura is USELESS! The benefits a tank gets from devotion or resistance are wiped out, PLUS the holy damage done to a mob that strikes you actually makes it HARDER for a tank to peel aggro off of you.

Please defer to the tank when he asks for an aura that actually has some use.

Kommentar von 1012146

As the one person said, auras are situational. There is no "best thing to use ever".

That being said, I looked at my lvl 85 prot pally in decent gear, not raid geared, and at my lvl 24 prot pally alt on a different server. Devotion aura made a 2% difference in melee damage taken for both. For comparison, if a creature hits my lvl 85 for 10k damage as melee, then that's reduced by 200 damage. If a mob hits my level 24 for 100 damage, then that's reduced by 2 damage. So using Devotion aura over Retribution for the sake of mitigation is questionable at best.

Way back we used terms like "time to live" when we didn't have infinite mana pools to play with. We can still say that a pull can be considered a dps race of sorts, as the faster things die, the sooner the tank stops taking as much damage. So a big heavy hitting mob might be better mitigated by using devotion, so the healer can keep up, but a trash pull with several fast hitting mobs might end faster using Retribution to speed up the damage being done to them overall.

Kommentar von Thottbot

sounds like a winning aura to me

Kommentar von Thottbot

this is like a aura form of thorns, complete with more damage and a type of damage that has no resistance! improve thorns to match >_<

Kommentar von Thottbot

does not scale with equipment (ie seal of command scales)

Kommentar von Thottbot

Does JoC affect this?

Kommentar von Thottbot

i love this...u use retro aura and then u go into the noob area and use cocecration ...watch what happens

Kommentar von Thottbot

does this inflict damage to an enemy each time they successfully attack you?

Kommentar von Thottbot

Yes it does. Which makes it really good against Rogues or Dual-Wielding Warrior. Just run around hitting them while you see them kill themself over time. It's great

Kommentar von Thottbot

did you try to aoe grind with this aura? if not check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RIx7vDEGus

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Aura der Vergeltung

Aura der Vergeltung	Stufe 85

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Verursacht bei jedem Feind, der ein Gruppen- oder Schlachtzugsmitglied schlägt, das sich im Umkreis von 40 Metern befindet, 116 Heiligschaden. Spieler können pro Paladin nur jeweils eine Aura besitzen.

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Normal

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0 Meter (Selbst)

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1.5 sekunden

Effekt #1

Apply Area Aura: [Damage shield]
Wert: 11 (SP mod: 0.033)
Radius: 40 Meter
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

Effekt #2

Apply Area Aura: [Mod Damage Done %] (Arkan, Feuer, Frost, Heilig, Natur, Physisch, Schatten)
Wert: 1%
Radius: 40 Meter
PVP-Multiplikator: 1

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