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Comment by 3629

Go to http://www.wowwiki.com/Twin_Emperors for a great tactic how to kill these guys.

Comment by Smorfty

Hunter specific tips:
- In my guild we have a warlock to pull caster-twin and a hunter to pull physical-twin
- Pull with aimed shot to get aggro (distracting shot won't work on him) and so that you don't loose aggro to healers
- When you've run over to mt use detecence if you have it (and aspect of the monkey ofc)
- When mt has hit the twin at least 2 times (preferably 3) you can feign death and join the others
- No aimed shots after 5 sec warning to teleport, aimed shots might go off, follow the twin after his teleport and you'll aggro him right away
- NO MULTISHOT! remove it from your bar, even I have pressed it by mistake after having downed them about 6 times
- Only aimed shot and rapid fire are any good to cast here while nuking
- Hunters run right after teleport, not when melee'ers run

Comment by 74126

looks like the final boss in Phantasy Star Online 2 the general

Comment by Vlad

Twin Emperors, Emperor Vek'lor (sounds)

"It's too late to turn away."
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorItsTo0Late.wav")
"Like a fly to the web!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorLikeAFly.wav")
"My brother, no!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorMyBrother.wav")
"Prepare to embrace oblivion!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorPrepareTo.wav")
"To decorate our halls!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorToDecorate.wav")
"You will not escape death!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorYouWillnot.wav")
"Your brash arrogance!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekLor\\VekLorYourBrash.wav")

Twin Emperors, Emperor Vek'nilash (sounds)

"Ah, lambs to the slaughter!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashAhLambs.wav")
"Join me brother, there is blood to be shed!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashJoinMe.wav")
"Let none survive!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashLetNone.wav")
"Look brother, fresh blood!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashLookBrother.wav")
"Shall be your undoing!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashShallBe.wav")
"Vek'lor, I feel your pain!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashVeklorIFeel.wav")
"Your fate is sealed!"
/run PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\VekNilash\\VekNilashYourFate.wav")

Comment by 51372

A very fun fight that gets everyone involved. There was a very big sense of accomplishment from any guild that could down these folks. The fight consisted of mad amounts of DPS, extreme sense of raid-oriented-coordination, very skilled healers that could tell who needed heals, and requires everyone to pay attention.

Comment by viva

One of the most skill sensitive boss fights I've seen. Do not attempt with PuGs unless you know they are commited.

Good tip if you are pugging/haven't done - have two pallies at both sides and have them consecrate every 25 seconds so upon teleport there is damage ticking on the caster or the melee boss. This at least helps hold them there.

Comment by Ralanost

Both emperor's are impossible for a death knight or a paladin to tank as they tank with a mixture of physical and magical damage. Meaning that your threat is less than half of what it should be. That means that the most either can do in this encounter is to deal with the bug adds.

Comment by Moonking1983

He'll be back...oh yes...he will.

Comment by nyctric

First defeated by Vodka of Mannoroth on the 29th of January, 2006.

Comment by Bullfrogg

Vek'nilash makes his triumphant return as a boss in the Trail of Champions!
He can be summoned while fighting Argent Confessor Paletress.

Comment by Lmjkdd6

Yes, Vek'nilash is one of the possible memories that can be summoned by Argent Confessor Paletress in Trial of the Champion, released in patch 3.2.

Comment by 449533

The Splintered Hand, of Turalyon-EU, just five-manned the Twin Emps at 80 in a mix of heroic and Conquest gear.

Setup: warrior tank and resto shaman stayed on one side for the entire fight, holy priest plus arcane mage and druid tank stayed on the other. Physical tanks used aggro abilities to grab Vek'nilash on the switch each time as usual; mage and shammy picked up Vek'lor when he turned up on their respective sides. Priest kept the mage healed, shammy healed himself. Physical tanks picked up and despatched the bug adds while Vek'lor was on their side, since they had little else to do.

Be careful; the aggro after the switch can be very twitchy. In particular, it appears that a high-threat ability used immediately before the switch can dump threat onto an Emperor a split second afterwards (possibly due to latency) causing him to charge over to the other side of the room immediately. Both physical and magic tanks need to be aware of this and be ready to fire off some threat moves immediately; it helps if physical tanks position themselves along the path that Vek'nilash will take to get to his brother, so he has to come though you (and you're not chasing him around).

Most importantly, do not use DoTS. After the switch and subsequent aggro wipe, it would appear that the first action on each Emperor's threat table gains a large chunk of bonus threat. This, I believe, is what creates the impression that you can grab high threat through proximity aggro. But if a DOT ticks straight after the switch (even something relatively minor, like the burn effect from a Mage fireball) the tick will generate huge threat, and the Emperor will typically charge straight back across the room. With our Druid tank using Lacerate, for example, I couldn't pull aggro back even with a 9K+ Shield Slam. He had the same problem with my Deep Wounds.

We downed the Emps with two minutes left on the berserk timer; we didn't allow them to heal even once. It's doable, just takes a good deal of concentration. Good luck.

Comment by trendyusername

These guys were hellish for me on my hunter, even though we wiped hard on them in that fail pug I was in. 90% of my abilities seem to count as "magic" even though they don't get reflected by any spell reflects (and +spell damage is lol-worthy on a hunter) so I could only use auto and steady shot against him, and could only throw arcane shot against the other twin to avoid the dot from explosive shot, even though it was only three seconds. Couldn't use black arrow, or serpent sting, so just stuck with scorpid sting.
Had a trinket that helped when rapid fire was on CD...as well as berserk. Being a troll has benefits sometimes.
It was just so awful testing to see what would and wouldn't work and watching as it said "Immune" to explosive shot. Kill shot wasn't even part of the equation as we didn't even get 10% down before our tanks' brains hemorrhaged.
500-700 DPS cut down to about 90-200 dps for one fight before we wiped. Jeez, that sucked. These bosses are not a huntard's friend.
Didn't help that my pet kept dying because the other twin kept pulling it with his AoE because our tanks were retarded and couldn't keep them apart.

Comment by chaosbringer127

I found that for PuGing the twin emps, its best to have 2 tanks (caster and a melee) on each side. 4 total.That way switches are easier.

DPS must stay on their toes and swap between veklor and veknilash.

This fight is one of the most fun encounters I've ever done, even doing this at 80.

Comment by Narinae

Our pug had 20 people, a few of them 60s and 70s, the rest 80s of varying gear levels. On each side we put a strong tank (we used pallies) and healer apiece, then magic dps on Vek'lor's side and physical dps on Vek'nilash's side. The raid was instructed as follows:

Stay on your designated platform for the whole fight.
Keep the target you start with through the whole fight, do not switch when they teleport.
Use as many dots as possible as often as possible.
No AoE or multiple target attacks.

The twins got three teleports off before downing. After each teleport they immediately ran back to their original corners. They did heal in passing but were damaged far more than the heal before teleporting again.

Once we tried this strategy this was the easiest fight of the raid. I highly recommend it to any raid with plenty of firepower.

Comment by Deathbang

WARNING: Both of the guys are immune to the Death Knight taunt skills Dark Command and Death Grip. If you are a DK you CANNOT taunt these guys. The paladin tanking the other twin complained hand of reckoning didn't work either. Bring 2 warriors.

Comment by Jolni

Tried this last night as a guild fun run, I took my lvl 80 paladin tank (in ilvl 232 gear), we had about 9 in the group, at first we tried pulling them together and nuking them as has been suggested - complete fail - we just had to give up eventually as we could not out dps there heals.

I've seen it suggested you need at least 15,000 dps for this to work to out damage there heals, in theory we should have had that but as it was a social group that may not have been the case...

On the second try we attempted to keep them apart and failed again, this time it was simply a case of not understanding the mechanics, and so on switch over they would imeadiatly sprint across the room, passing each other and healing up.

Another attempt with the same result made it clear this was not going to be a simple level 80 nuke for lol's and move on, so we took a little time to read tactics and set out roles and positions.

On the forth atempt we had a pala tank (me) and a lock tank on one platform with a healer, and a warior tank and a lock tank with a healer on the other, our 2 melee dps were assigned to Vek'nilash, and all the other caster dps were assigned to Vek'lor, everyone was told not to use any kind of dots or AOE.

This started much better and we quickly had them down to 75% with all going well, then they swaped for about to 3rd time and I was unable to get agro, Vek'nilash then sprint back across the room, they healed yup, and we were back to square one...

We had to break off then as it was late but reading the comments above I can offer the following feed back:

If you want to try nuking them down together, out pacing there heals, you need alot of DPS, 15,000 seems light to me, but we are going back so I will test and update...

If you want to tank them in the conventional way, warriors by far seem ot have the best threat on them, and no taunt fail issues.

Hand of reckoning does not work - but Avengers shield does work as a ranged taunt.

Be careful; the aggro after the switch can be very twitchy. In particular, it appears that a high-threat ability used immediately before the switch can dump threat onto an Emperor a split second afterwards (possibly due to latency) causing him to charge over to the other side of the room immediately.

I am in agreement with this, speed of pickup after the teleport is the key to this fight, time it right and you can just bat them back and forth happily until the dps get them down, but loose that initial pickup - and they will break loose and cause havoc.

2 reasons for this are:-

Dots of any kind, even from the tank (Seal of Corruption is a no no, I went with Seal of Righteousness).

Latency, as quoted above, if you are too quick on the pickup they may not have quite cleared down there agro table and so your taunt although it hits - it effectivly misses as they then clear down moments after your taunt and so go charging back accross the room, I saw this first hand...

A Paladin can tank Vek'lor with holy spells, but not enough to be dps'd as well, and the aoe knock back with slowing makes this very very dificult, and as a caster he is hard to kite so your back is to a wall.

Overall a fun and challenging fight, be prepard to come prepared and not face roll this, I'm looking forward to going back and downing these guys...

Comment by Ethlin

Copy pasta from the other emperor...

They are immune to taunt, so I also assume warrior taunt will not work as well.

Anyway. It's theoretically possible to two man with 2 prot paladins (As far as I can tell), has anyone done it/tried?

Comment by Thottbot

That suit of armour is the original lich king, Ner'zhul. Illidian is currently in outland, this is confirmed ingame by Mulfurion's speech when you turn in the nightmare engulfed object from the emerald dragons to Ramulos.

Comment by Thottbot

Can someone please post where Emperor Vek'nilash is located at, AQ20 or AQ40? Thanks

Comment by Thottbot

i just wanna no how the hell this post went from the emps to naxx and other new instances

Comment by Thottbot

uhh karazhan is a 10 man lvl 70 not a 20 man

Comment by Thottbot

Hey guys i am human pala on Bloodhoof.... i think i have hear rumors about Medivh was in the tower in Dreadwind pass....and Medivh aint neither that weak.... what i also have heard is that some have seen the real king of Stormwind at same place.... can any tell me is this true? ;) i like warcraft lore very much illidan ftw

Comment by Thottbot

but atiesh has been killed already :P

Comment by Thottbot

Its the staff m8 bha

Comment by Thottbot

Atiesh is the demon you have to kill to complete the quest to get the staff.

Comment by Thottbot

in this post theres all but a tip for these buggers that in many cases block guild porgress in endgame.
i write down few things that maybe anyoe knows.

u have to keep them separated, one to a side of the room, the other on the other side, or they will heal

veknilash is a powerful melee boss, he will use Imbalancig Strike and can eat easily even the best tanked gear, he is Immune to all magic spells and effects

Veklor is the caster brother, he will arcane explosion around and spam shadowbolts that hurts, some use a warlock as tank due to resistanceces (from demonology build + felhunter) but a warrior is better in my opinion. hes immune to physical damage

they will switch position every N secs (cant remember) , resetting all the aggro, a tip is let only the warrior stays near to him when h/they teleported (theres some sort of aggro bonus on the first target)

all the bugs over the room will repedetly get enlarged and a decide group must gank them fast.

hope this helps :)

Comment by Thottbot

I heard theres some place called medivhs tomb or something like that next to karazhan.I asked my guild about a place i axidantly went into when i was grinding around karazhan and it was weird although i couldnt see any mobs there were some interesting rooms.I heard it was medivhs tomb.

Comment by Thottbot

Final boss in Ahn'Quiraj 40 man

Comment by Thottbot

*sigh* Illidan is boss of Black Citadel, or Black Temple. Lady Vashj is the boss of Serpent Shrine Cavern. Kel'thas is the boss of Tempest Keep

Comment by Allakhazam

This fight is buged ever since the BC came out, blizzard fix this!

Comment by Allakhazam

I am wondering how far in the twin emperors are into AQ40?

Comment by Allakhazam

does it at the top says it is a lvl 1 elite :s

Comment by Allakhazam

who is the evil twin?
hell who is the good twin!

Comment by Allakhazam

It took us Silence on Stormscale five trys to get them down, and we used 2 warriors as tanks.

Edited, Oct 15th 2006 at 11:26am PDT by xelzy

Comment by Allakhazam

He's the elder one they say.

Comment by Allakhazam

it will be funyn when my server (vek'nilash) finnaly kills this guy

Comment by Allakhazam

Amazingful!

Comment by Allakhazam

My guild down these twins last night, dropped Kalimdor'r Revenge, so Im one happy gnome warrior. :)

Comment by Allakhazam

Movie showing horde killing him with 2 warriors as tanks.

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=16917

Comment by Allakhazam

What do you know about these guy's insignia drop "bug"? We killed them yesterday and I could loot only 1 insignia from Vek'nilash and others could loot both insignias.

Comment by Rothia

HOW TO AQUIRE: TIER 2.5 HEAD

Gain Friendly reputation status with The Brood of Nozdormu.
Accept your class quest from Andorgos inside The Temple Ahn'Qiraj (AQ40). She's located in a side room just beyond The Prophet Skeram.
Kill Emperor Vek'nilash and loot the Qiraji token: Vek'nilash's Circlet.
Collect the right amount/type of Idols and Scarabs needed, either buy them from the auction house or loot from trash / Large Scarab Coffers.
Complete the quest!

Warrior Conqueror's Crown | Conqueror's Crown

Warlock Doomcaller's Circlet | Doomcaller's Circlet

Mage Enigma Circlet | Enigma Circlet

Priest Tiara of the Oracle | Tiara of the Oracle

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Emperor Vek'nilash

Temple of Ahn'QirajThe Prophet SkeramBattleguard SarturaFankriss the UnyieldingPrincess HuhuranVek'lorVek'nilashC'ThunOptionalYaujVemKriViscidusOuroEmperor Vek'nilashEmperor Vek'lorTemple of Ahn'QirajAbilities

Heal Brother: Whenever the twins get within 60 yards of one another, they will spam heal each other for 30000 health/tick. Keep them far apart.

Twin Teleport: Every 30-40 seconds, the two twins will switch places, visible by a blue glow around their feet. The twins will be rooted for about 2 seconds after they teleport before they start attacking again. There is a complete aggro wipe, and the Emperors will attack the closest player to them, who will receive a large amount of threat after the 2 second root runs out.

Berserk: After 15 minutes, the Emperors will go berserk dramatically increasing damage and wiping the raid.

Combined Health: The Emperors share health. Damage to one emperor hurts the other emperor as well. They therefore die simultaneously.

Uppercut: Knocks back a single random target in melee range.

Unbalancing Strike: Inflicts 350% weapon damage and leaves the target unbalanced, reducing their defense skill by 100 for 6 seconds.

Mutate Bug: Mutates a bug every 10-15 seconds or so making it grow to a gigantic size and attack the raid.

Immunity: Emperor Vek'nilash is immune to all magical damage (except Holy) and must be taken down with physical abilities.

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