And, like Dalaran, Theramore is still sitting there, unharmed, for an unknown amount of time.As soon as you run the Theramore scenario, it phases out.
Come on, removing some secondary town is ok, but removing a CAPITAL? Unless there is going to be some embodiment of epicosity as reward, I'm going to skip those quests on Horde, because I'm not going to phase my Northrend capital away.Ejem, GAMEPLAY&STORY SEGREGATION!Lorewise, dalaran becomes alliance-only, but gameplaywise, its still open to both factions.Much like how Lorewise, Quel'danas is now horde-only, and in full control of Silvermoon (And the only alliance members allowed in are High Elven Pilgrims, and only to get their fix from the sunwell) yet gameplaywise, its still full of demons of the burning legion and members of the shattered sun.Some stuff is in the lore that doesn't quite matches what happens in the game. You can go to Nagrand and find Garrosh still there, moping about how much his life sucks, and Saurfang Jr being an overwhelming badass like his dad, despite the fact that in the present, Garrosh is not just warchief, but in full megalomaniac narcissistic raging mode, and Saurfang Jr is dead.So don't take it so literally. From a lore POV Dalaran is alliance only, but you will still be able to go there on your horde toons. When the inevitable northrend revamp happens though, time will tell how that little debacle is fixed. I am aware of that lore is often different from gameplay, but this event is indeed reflected in gameplay in form of quests, and because Blizzard quite enjoy using their phasing tools, I doubt they will let us evacuate the city only to see al the people back in their original positions next time we visit. It sure will remain sanctuary, Horde will sure remain able to take the flight and buy the mammoth and stuff, but I am 99% sure that completing those quests means saying goodbye to the Org portal, Horde bank a Tier vendors, because it is not visited as often as it used to be and that stuff is available elsewhere as well, which is Blizzard's definition of "to be ignored, doesn't matter if screwed"
I am 99% sure that completing those quests means saying goodbye to the Org portal, Horde bank a Tier vendors, because it is not visited as often as it used to be and that stuff is available elsewhere as well, which is Blizzard's definition of "to be ignored, doesn't matter if screwed"I actually really doubt that as well; they'll leave in the Sunreaver section, as it's probably going to come to light that Aethas is not part of this, just as he wasn't part of the Horde spy pretending to be a Sunreaver during Tides of War...or you know, the other members of the Six are going to speak up and tell Jaina to stop being such a $%^&*! and actually rule the Kirin Tor as a group as they should be doing....
That extra socket attached to your weapon seems cool. Can't wait to get my hands on it!
As soon as you run the Theramore scenario, it phases out.Aah, I was going on a basis of my level 70 mage being able to teleport there, I actually haven't flown out there on a 90 yet. Thank you for the clarification..!
Hopefully Outland will be getting a revamp before Northrend will, anyways.+1 on the "Why are you making PvE players PvP for their PvE stuff?" thing. ':/Love how Blizzard has more or less abandoned any pretense that the Horde aren't essentially the bad guys, relatively. Its like the Marvel Civil War or Fallout: New Vegas; Its not black and white! Its just light gray and dark gray.
I'm almost done with the current gems. Need 8 more sigils of wisdom and I'm done.I need like 5...
Love how Blizzard has more or less abandoned any pretense that the Horde aren't essentially the bad guys, relatively. Its like the Marvel Civil War or Fallout: New Vegas; Its not black and white! Its just light gray and dark gray.But... they are not. Seriously, there is nothing suggesting the Horde to be any bit worse than Alliance since WC2, which is a seriously old lore and Horde's story has moved a ton since then, but for some weird reason some people got stuck in that period and consider horde some sort of antagonists. Garrosh is an idiot, that's a fact, another fact is that several Horde's faction leaders hate him as much as Alliance hates him. Sorry to burst your fictional-faction-patriotic bubble, but Horde as faction is not becoming an enemy anytime soon.
As for this; where the hell are the other members of the Six and why are they not slapping Jaina down for being such a massive *!@#$?Well since she is a very powerful mage (lorewise) I bet it would've been something to try and stop her.As for everything else looking for to see how Garrosh will try to handle all this and other things.
As for this; where the hell are the other members of the Six and why are they not slapping Jaina down for being such a massive *!@#$?Well since she is a very powerful mage (lorewise) I bet it would've been something to try and stop her.And? Khadgar is a member of the Six and he's forgotten more then Jaina will ever know....
Can't Wait for 5.1!
Okay there is a key point that didnt get mentioned in regard to the Sunreaver issue as presented in Tides of War. The Sunreavers were part of the Kirin Tor delegation that went to Theramore in the interest of showing Garrosh that even Neutral Dalaran wouldn't stand for his World Dominance policy. During the siege, the leader of the Sunreavers intentionally blew open the city gates allowing horde entry and revealed that the Sunreavers were part of the Horde all along, basically meaning their supposed neutral stance was just a ploy to spy on the Kirin Tor.After the Mana Bomb was dropped, the Kirin Tor invited Jaina back to fullfill a prophecy or something like that. But also because she was a world renown mage of some power who would bring some credability to the Kirin Tor in the wake of the Sunreaver's betrayal, Rhonin's death, the Mage War (with the Blue Flight) etc. In the aftermath the Sunreavers plead that it was just the leadership and not the whole faction who were working for the Horde and their given another chance but its implied that their going to be watched strictly. Presumably this was an easy cop-out for Blizz not to make the major revisions necessary in Dalaran to remain lore - current, although now it seems the Sunreavers again betray Dalaran, this time by aiding the Horde in stealing the Divine Bell from Darnasus. One would hope that this might lead to a storyline with a restructuring of the Blood Elf society in Silvermoon, perhaps with the Sunreaver and Blood Knights establishing themselves at home. Dalaran also should be effected right to the core as the Horde influence is removed, multiple Horde betrayals, Garrosh's World Domination policy, the death of Rhonin and the obvious partiality of Jaina might drive them further toward the Alliance.