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Strategist: Flame Leviathan

posted 2009/06/27 at 1:39 PM by ArgentSun

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GeneralSiege EnginesDemolishers ChoppersVehiclesBrann BronzebeardLore Keeper of NorgannonIron ArmyBrann BronzebeardLore Keeper of NorgannonHard Mode(s)don't be thereFlame VentsFlame LeviathanVehiclesSalvaged Siege EnginesSalvaged DemolishersSalvaged Choppers

Siege Engine (Driver) - Has Ram, Electroshock, and Steam Rush. Neither Ram nor Electroshock does a lot of damage, so using them for that purpose is pointless. Ram should be used for its knockback effect (to get adds away), and Electroshock - for its interrupt effect (to interrupt Ground Slam or Flame Vents). Steam Rush should be used to get away from the Flame Leviathan if he is too close to ramming your vehicle.

Siege Engine (Passenger) - Has Anti-Air Rocket, Fire Cannon, and Shield Generator. The Anti-Air Rockets should be used to either bring liquid pyrite from the sky, or kill the occasional packs of copters. The Fire Cannon doesn't do a terrible lot of damage, but is wonderful for lighting up Tar dropped by the Choppers, or killing weak ground enemies (like the ones summoned by Freya's Ward). The Shield Generator is just another alternative to be used to survive the Leviathan if the driver's Steam Rush is not available.

Demolisher (Driver) - Has Hurl Boulder, Hurl Pyrite Barrel, Ram, and Throw Passenger. Hurl Boulder is your main attack, which you should be using every time you are not doing anything else. The Pyrite barrels apply a DoT that stacks up to 10 times and does insane amount of damage...but consumsed precious pyrite ammo. By default you will be saving those for Overload phases, when the Leviathan takes 50% extra damage. Ram, similarly to the Siege Engines' spell with the same name, should be used only to get mobs away from you. Throw Passenger will only be available if your passenger has used Load into Catapult, which will make you unable to perform any action other than throwing that passenger somewhere...preferably on top of the Leviathan. The spell has a cast time, unlike your other abilities, so you will need to stop, aim, and shoot, instead of driving around and shooting, as you will normally do.

Demolisher (Passenger) - Has Mortar, Anti-Air Rocket, Grab Crate, Increased Speed, and Load into Catapult. Mortar is your way to light Tar up and to get rid of small adds. Anti-Air Rockets will rid you of airborne vehicles during the gauntlet, and will allow you to drop pyrite from the sky, which you can then pick with Grab Crate. Each pyrite barrel refills 50% of your Demolisher's fuel tank, so don't waste it. Increase Speed should be used only if the Leviathan is too close to your Demolisher, as it's a rather costly ability. Load into Catapult will allow you to be shot on top of the Leviathan, where you can help destroy the turrets and bring the boss to an Overload. Beware, loading yourself will make your Demolisher unable to attack any other way, so try not to cripple their DPS by loading yourself in the beginning of an Overload phase.

Chopper - Has Speed Boost, Sonic Horn, Tar, and First Aid Kit. Speed Boost can have 100% uptime, to make sure you are always ahead of any baddies chasing you. Sonic Horn does 6,300 to 7,700 damage, so it can only be used for initial aggro generation. Tar is a vital ability, as it slows down regular monsters tremendously, and does a lot of damage of lit by other vehicles' shots. Your First Aid should be used every time you are carrying a passenger to a Demolisher, as it is practically a free heal for them.

The Iron Army

Steelforged Defender - Iron Dwarf. Usually found in big packs. Weak unit, does little damage and dies quickly. Storm Beacons located throughout the entire gauntlet will summon packs of 3-5 of those, until destroyed.

Runeforged Sentry - Runed Iron Golem, Elemental. Can place Flaming Rune underneath random vehicle and does frontal cone Runed Flame Jets. Simply navigate away from both spells.

Ulduar Colossus - Iron Giant. Tough and with a lot of hit points, those are best taken from afar, while slowed by Choppers' Tar. Siege Engines, watch out for their Ground Slam and interrupt it.

Titanium Stormlord - Iron Vrykul. Nothing special, other than the fact that you will see very few of those.

Mechagnome Battletank - Mechanical. Huge spider-like robotic unit. One of those is located nearby each of the Orbital defense mechanisms, a.k.a. Towers. They will aggro from very far away and Jump Attack whoever pulled them. They do moderately high damage and should be burned quickly.

Mechanostriker 54-A - Mechanical, airborne. Come in packs of ~6 from either left or right, and will usually target your Choppers. They should be killed by Demolisher and Siege Engine passengers quickly. Demolishers may also be able to attack them with their Hurl Boulder ability, as it has a huge radius, but that is optional.

Mechanolift 304-A - Technically not a part of the Iron Army, those lifts hover high in the sky, carrying barrels of Liquid Pyrite. Siege Engine and Demolisher passengers can kill the Mechanolifts, so the Demolisher passengers can then retrieve the pyrite for their drivers. Pyrite is used mainly by Hurl Pyrite Barrel, which is the main source of damage when fighting the Flame Leviathan later on.

The Flame LeviathanUlduar ColossusMissile BarrageMissile BarrageFlame VentsBattering RamLeviathan Defense TurretsSystems ShutdownGathering SpeedShutoutHard Mode(s)Lore Keeper of Norgannon

Tower of Flames - +40% health, +50% Fire damage through Tower of Flames. Mimiron's Inferno moves in a diamond between the centers of the walls of the "room" where you fight the boss, dropping spheres of fire on the predefined path. Being hit by a sphere directly causes 150,000 (base) fire damage. Being hit by the trail does a little less fire damage, every 1 second.

Tower of Frost - +50% health through Tower of Frost. Hodir's Fury are several beams that chase random vehicles, stop and lock on them when they stop, and then drop a sphere of ice. Everyone hit by the sphere takes 150,000 (base) Frost damage and is frozen in an ice block, unable to act until a fire-based attack from another vehicle frees them.

Tower of Nature - +40% health, -10% Fire damage taken through Tower of Life. Freya's Ward are 4 beams in the corners of the "room", which occasionally spawn either a large pack of Writhing Lashers, or a small pack of Writhing Lashers and 1 Ward of Life.

Tower of Storms - +40% health, +25% physical damage through Tower of Storms. Thorim's Hammer are several beams that spawn randomly and periodically, and cast a large-ranged pulse AoE. Players anywhere nearby will take ~50,000 damage, while players directly under the point of impact - 300,000.

Don't back away from it.Achievements

The Siege of Ulduar - Defeat the Flame Leviathan to receive credit for this achievement.

Three Car Garage - Defeat the Flame Leviathan, while driving each of the vehicles. If you are a passenger, you receive credit only if you are inside the vehicle at the time of the Leviathan's defeat.

Orbital Bombardment - Defeat the Flame Leviathan with at least 1 Orbital Defense System active.

Orbital Devastation - Defeat the Flame Leviathan with at least 2 Orbital Defense Systems active.

Nuked from Orbit - Defeat the Flame Leviathan with at least 3 Orbital Defense Systems active.

Orbit-uary - Defeat the Flame Leviathan with all 4 Orbital Defense Systems active. Required for Glory of the Ulduar Raider

Take Out Those Turrets - Destroy a Flame Leviathan Defense Turret. You will need to be a passenger in a Demolisher who is being launched in order to do this.

Shutout - Defeat the Flame Leviathan without a Systems Shutdown. This means you will not be launching Demolisher passengers to destroy Turrets. The achievement is best achieved if you dedicate all of your passengers to shooting down Pyrite from the sky, and your Demolishers to spamming the Hurl Pyrite. Shield and rush away from the Leviathan if it's too close to you, as the Ram will make a quick work of you, if you are being pursued.

Unbroken - Defeat the Flame Leviathan without using the Auto-repair Platforms. This is not a hard achievement, you just need to take the gauntlet slowly and leave a few or no Towers up. Your Choppers will need to keep close to your other vehicles, as they have the least amount of hit points. Your Siege Engine and Demolisher passengers will need to be on their toes for copters, and your Siege Engines - interrupting every Ground Slam. Watch out for Flaming Runes on the ground, and generally wait for the Iron Army to come to you - most of them have only melee attacks. Pyrite is a blessing here.

The Champion of Ulduar - Defeat the Flame Leviathan on your first try for this lock-out period, without anyone in the raid dying. Again, easily done if you pay attention and leave no Towers up.

Boss Quotes

"Hostile entities detected. Threat assessment protocol active. Primary target engaged. Time minus thirty seconds to re-evaluation."
/run PlaySoundFile"Sound\\\\Creature\\\\FlameLeviathan\\\\UR_Leviathan_Aggro01.wav

"Threat assessment routine modified. Current target threat level: zero. Acquiring new target."
/run PlaySoundFile"Sound\\\\Creature\\\\FlameLeviathan\\\\UR_Leviathan_Slay01.wav

"Total systems failure. Defense protocols breached. Leviathan Unit shutting down."
/run PlaySoundFile"Sound\\\\Creature\\\\FlameLeviathan\\\\UR_Leviathan_Death01.wav

"Orbital countermeasures enabled."
/run PlaySoundFile"Sound\\\\Creature\\\\FlameLeviathan\\\\UR_Leviathan_HardmodeOn.wav

"Unauthorized entity attempting circuit overload. Activating anti-personnel countermeasures."
/run PlaySoundFile"Sound\\\\Creature\\\\FlameLeviathan\\\\UR_Leviathan_PlayerRiding.wav

"Thorim's Hammer online. Acquiring target."
/run PlaySoundFile"Sound\\\\Creature\\\\FlameLeviathan\\\\UR_Leviathan_TowerEnergy.wav

"Hodir's Fury online. Acquiring target."
/run PlaySoundFile"Sound\\\\Creature\\\\FlameLeviathan\\\\UR_Leviathan_TowerFrost.wav

"Mimiron's Inferno online. Acquiring target."
/run PlaySoundFile"Sound\\\\Creature\\\\FlameLeviathan\\\\UR_Leviathan_TowerFire.wav

"Freya's Ward online. Acquiring target."
/run PlaySoundFile"Sound\\\\Creature\\\\FlameLeviathan\\\\UR_Leviathan_TowerNature.wav

"Alert! Static defense system failure. Orbital countermeasures disabled.
/run PlaySoundFile"Sound\\\\Creature\\\\FlameLeviathan\\\\UR_Leviathan_TowerNone.wav

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Comment by Blackboy0 Holy crap. So much about just a boss. Very good job, Sun! Comment by Yizelin Holy crap. So much about just a boss. Very good job, Sun!Comment by Femlock Great information:) really good done. Comment by Satlan even on its launch, the info for the fight is wrong lol. maybe stick to just being a item database. Comment by Thrakin All I can say is.... MOAR! Comment by ArgentSun even on its launch, the info for the fight is wrong lol. maybe stick to just being a item database.Comment by Fingulfin A few more hints from an experienced Hard Mode Flame Leviathan-er:

As a demolisher passenger, once you overload the flame leviathan DO NOT wait for him to eject you. Use a script such as "/script VehicleExit(); " (turn that into a macro). This will set you down, nice and gently, right next to the leviathan. Your choppers won't have to play the guessing game as to where you will end up, and will have MUCH more time to get you back to your demolishers.

Once Hodirs tower starts chasing you, HOLD STILL. It will finish "locking on" and stop moving to drop the giant icicle. If you keep moving, it will NOT stop chasing you until you stop moving... You normally won't stop moving unless something bad is happening (turning around, waiting for pyrite, etc) and if you stop moving longer than it takes it to lock on than you WILL get frozen.

Something most people don't understand about PYRITE: The main Demolisher's "Energy" amount is actually his "Pyrite" bar. Each barrel that you pick up will fill 50 energy, so don't waste what you have on the ground.

The Pyrite barrels apply a DoT that stacks up to 10 times and does insane amount of damage...but consumsed precious pyrite ammo. By default you will be saving those for Overload phases, when the Leviathan takes 50% extra damage.

This is utter BS. As a demolisher, it is your #1 priority to keep 10 stacks of Pyrite up on the Leviathan AT ALL TIMES. If you let your 10 stacks fall off, you are a fail Demo driver and should be demoted to siege engine passenger.

Chopper Drivers: It is your one and ONLY job to pick up Demo passengers and return them to their demolishers. Don't get it into your head that you are good DPS; you are not. The amount of damage you put out compared to a smart demolisher passenger is a VERY small fraction. What I'm trying to say is PAY ATTENTION TO DEMO PASSENGERS.

As a Demo Passenger (who isn't getting launched), you have 2 jobs. To shoot down Pyrite and to refuel your Demolisher. If your overloaders are being slow up top, you MIGHT have to speed boost to get away from the leviathan; use this at your own judgment though because your Demo pilot needs as much pyrite as possible.

Siege Engine Gunners: You have two jobs. Your FIRST and most important job is to kill Freya's Adds ASAP. Your second job is to shoot down Pyrite. If there are no adds about, shoot down Pyrite. If there is no Pyrite to shoot down, look harder because there is some Pyrite to shoot down.

Comment by ArgentSun Ah, I am going to disagree with you a little here. If you are not doing any towers (or only one), and you are on 10-man, you might shoot both of your Demolisher passengers up. The Demolisher drivers will then have a pretty hard time keeping those 10 stacks of Pyrite. Hence why I said "by default". Note that the piece you quoted is not in the Hard Mode section, which is when you are most likely to have passengers refilling the Demolishers constantly.

Of course, I am open for discussion. Comment by Hungryshadow Technically, that's the strategy.

But people rarely do fights 100% according to the strategy.

For us, we don't shoot passengers up unless it's more than two towers, and we don't shoot more than one passenger up at a time.

And since 10 stacks of pyrite at the beginning does indefinitely more damage than someone who either holds off on stacking and stacks like crazy during overload, that's the way we do it. Stack it to 10, and keep it at 10. Comment by Satlan haveing the towers updated to the latest patch notes, that can be found on wowwiki is a good start. The fact its missing info from patchs nearly a month ago on its launch is what is funny.

(2009-06-15): "Pyrite will now disappear after 3 minutes instead of 1 minute."
(2009-06-11): "The Flame Leviathan encounter has received the following changes: the bonus health Flame Leviathan receives per tower has been reduced, the ejection height from Flame Leviathan has been reduced, the snare effect of the Tower of Frost has been removed, and the cannons on Demolishers and Siege Enginers should now break Flash Frozen vehicles in 1 shot."
(2009-06-05): "We've made some adjustments to the siege engine and demolisher in the Flame Leviathan encounter in order to make them more effective."
(2009-06-05): "The Tower of Life's adds have had their health reduced."
(2009-06-05): "Life Sparks will no longer chain their Shock spell."
(2009-04-15): "Each difficulty level of Flame Leviathon's hard modes have had the boss’s health increased." Comment by Fingulfin ^This. The amount of DPS gained by keeping up 10 stacks usually far outweighs the benefit of overloading him. In ten man 0-2 towers, he has so little health to begin with you can usually kill him before he gains massive amounts of speed. Comment by Hungryshadow Yup, this week with two towers up, he was down to 35% before the first overload - and that's with only one continuous 10 stack ticking pyrite. Comment by ArgentSun @Satlan...

(2009-06-15): "Pyrite will now disappear after 3 minutes instead of 1 minute."
The goal is to have as much Pyrite damage done as possible. It helps if you bring some Pyrite down prior to the fight - now that it has 3 minutes duration, you can stockpile it before engaging the boss.Blog status: updated.(2009-06-11): "...the bonus health Flame Leviathan receives per tower has been reduced..."Tower of Flames - +25% health, +50% Fire damage through Tower of FlamesBlog status: updated."...the ejection height from Flame Leviathan has been reduced..."This is irrelevant to the guide."...the snare effect of the Tower of Frost has been removed..."Tower of Frost - +25% health through Tower of Frost. Hodir's Fury are several beams that chase random vehicles, stop after several seconds, and then drop a sphere of ice. Everyone hit by the sphere takes 150,000 (base) Frost damage and is frozen in an ice block, unable to act until a fire-based attack from another vehicle frees them.Blog status: updated."...the cannons on Demolishers and Siege Enginers should now break Flash Frozen vehicles in 1 shot."Everyone hit by the sphere takes 150,000 (base) Frost damage and is frozen in an ice block, unable to act until a fire-based attack from another vehicle frees them.(2009-06-05): "We've made some adjustments to the siege engine and demolisher in the Flame Leviathan encounter in order to make them more effective."(2009-06-05): "The Tower of Life's adds have had their health reduced."(2009-04-15): "Each difficulty level of Flame Leviathon's hard modes have had the boss’s health increased."Comment by ArgentSun On a different note, I will edit the strategy to reflect that it's better to keep more Demolisher passengers.

Thanks to Fingulfin and Hungryshadow.

P.S. I said "out", did I not? Comment by Zeaket The path Mimiron's Inferno takes can be better described as a diamond path, since that's pretty much what it is. Just thought I'd put that in for clarification. Comment by Rellik0147 I realize that it isn't "technically" a boss achievement, but you get an ulduar achievement for being one of the people to kill a turret, might be worth listing in the achievements section. Comment by ArgentSun

Added information about a zerg-like strategy, where you launch fewer passengers and rely more on pyrite

Mentioned the diamond-shaped path of Mimiron's Inferno

Added the achievement Take Out Those Turrets.

Comment by Quatrez I'm pretty sure that your overall item level also affects the vehicles now. I remember reading a blue post somewhere about that.
GJ on the article, can't wait to read all the rest, especially the Keeper's. Comment by ArgentSun I forgot to mention that? Curses, throughout the entire article I was thinking how I am going to go back to the beginning and add it...guess I never did. Comment by Fingulfin On the subject of iLvLs, its important to keep your better geared people in the DRIVER seats. This way, the vehicle as a whole has more HP and will survive longer. Because the passengers main job is shooting down/picking up Pyrite, the amount of damage their cannons do is irrelevant. Even when horribly geared, a siege engine gunner shot can destroy adds in one or two hits as well...

So, gear priority should look something like:

Siege Engine Driver/Demolisher Driver

Chopper Driver/Demo Gunner who is getting LAUNCHED

Demolisher Gunner/Siege Gunner

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