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Draenor Pathfinder: How To Unlock Flying in Draenor

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Draenor PathfinderSoaring SkyterrorallDraenor Pathfinderaccount-wide

Explore all of Draenor's zones (Draenor Explorer)

Collect 100 Treasures (Master Treasure Hunter)

Complete all major story quests in Draenor: Loremaster of Draenor/Loremaster of Draenor

Complete 12 specific Apexis Dailies: Securing Draenor/Securing Draenor

Hit Revered with the three new Tanaan Jungle factions (Tanaan Diplomat/Tanaan Diplomat): Order of the Awakened, The Saberstalkers, and Hand of the Prophet/Vol'jin's Headhunters

featured by BlizzardDraenor PathfinderDraenor Pathfinder Completion ToolDraenor Pathfinderhttp://wowhead.com/flyingProfilesReturn to Table of ContentsDraenor Explorer

Explore Frostfire Ridge

Explore Gorgrond

Explore Spires of Arak

Explore Shadowmoon Valley

Explore Talador

Explore Nagrand

Draenor Exploreraccount-wide progress

The Iron Waystation in Frostfire Ridge is southeast of the Wolf's Stand Flight Path.

If you are Alliance and haven't explored Frostfire Ridge before, you can get through the giant wall of rock by Iron Siegeworks via a tiny tunnel--you aren't trapped!

Deadgrin is nearby the Evermorn Springs in Gorgrond.

Lost Veil Anzu is the body of water bordering Spires of Arak and Shadowmoon Valley. It is easy to reach by swimming along the west coast of Shadowmoon Valley.

The Path of Glory in Talador is around 66,10--close to where Talador leads into Gorgrond.

Isle of Shadows in Shadowmoon Valley is southwest of Socrethar's Rise.

Return to Table of ContentsCollect 100 TreasuresMaster Treasure HunterDraenor PathfindernotMaster Treasure HunterMaster Treasure HunterExpert Treasure HunterMaster Treasure HunterTreasure MapsTreasure MapGrakisSrikkaGarrison Exploration MissionsShadowmoon Valley Treasure MapFrostfire Treasure Map

Fickle Loyalty: Frostfire Treasure Map

Highplains Robbery: Nagrand Treasure Map

Tomb Raider: Shadowmoon Valley Treasure Map

Bird Watching: Spires of Arak Treasure Map

Fields of Sorrow: Talador Treasure Map

It's a Jungle Out There: Gorgrond Treasure Map

Fickle Loyalty: Frostfire Treasure Map

Tomb Raider: Shadowmoon Valley Treasure Map

Explorer's NotebookGrakisSrikkaGuides and Loot

Rares, Treasures, and Temples in Shadowmoon Valley

Rares, Treasures, and Shamanstones in Frostfire Ridge

Rares, Treasures, and Garrison Outpost Caches in Gorgrond

Rares and Treasures in Talador

Rares, Treasures, and Jumping Puzzles in Spires of Arak

Rares, Treasures, and Gliders in Nagrand

The Treasures section for objects links to all of the lootable treasures.

Visiting a treasure page like Curious Deathweb Egg shows the loot it contains, a map, and a macro underneath the map that tells you if you've already looted the treasure.

Our Draenor Zone Pages let you show the locations for different things on the map. If you click on the silver chest icon underneath the "Loot" section, you will see the locations for all treasures.

Draenor Pathfinder

There are eight toys from 6.0 Draenor treasures: Angry Beehive, Arena Master's War Horn, Deceptia's Smoldering Boots, Giant Deathweb Egg, Goren Garb, Pretty Draenor Pearl, Vindicator's Armor Polish Kit, Star Chart.

In 6.2, five more toys are from Tanaan Treasures: Dazzling Rod, Accursed Tome of the Sargerei, The Perfect Blossom, Jewel of Hellfire, Podling Camouflage

Return to Table of ContentsLoremaster of DraenorLoremaster of DraenorLoremaster of Draenoraccount-wide achievementsDon't Let the Tala-door Hit You on the Way OutNagrandeurLoremaster of DraenorDon't Let the Tala-door Hit You on the Way Out

As I Walk Through the Valley of the Shadow of Moon/You'll Get Caught Up In The... Frostfire!

Don't Let the Tala-door Hit You on the Way Out/Don't Let the Tala-door Hit You on the Way Out

Nagrandeur/Nagrandeur

Putting the Gore in Gorgrond/Putting the Gore in Gorgrond

Between Arak and a Hard Place/Between Arak and a Hard Place

Profiler Quest TrackingWowhead's Profiler

Your character will be loaded details on what they've collected in-game including quests. The quests tab shows which quests are still incomplete and users can filter further by expansion and quest category to narrow it down.

If you Pin your character (option on the Profiler's top bar), you can see which quests are incomplete as you browse Wowhead. Completion information will be shown on Quick Facts pages, tooltips, and listviews from search results.

Return to Table of ContentsSecuring DraenorSecuring DraenorSecuring DraenornotToday in DraenorRequired Dailies

Gorgrond: Assault on Everbloom Wilds, Assault on the Pit

Frostfire Ridge: Assault on the Iron Siegeworks, Assault on Magnarok, Assault on Stonefury Cliffs

Nagrand: Assault on the Broken Precipice, Assault on Mok'gol Watchpost

Shadowmoon Valley: Assault on Darktide Roost, Assault on Pillars of Fate, Assault on Socrethar's Rise

Spires of Arak: Assault on Skettis

Talador: Assault on Shattrath Harbor

Assault on the Heart of ShattrathAssault on Lost Veil AnzuBattle in AshranAssault on the Gorian Proving GroundsScouting MissivesScouting Missives

These cost 0 Garrison Resources from Garrison Quartermasters Sergeant Crowler and Sergeant Grimjaw.

These allow you to complete specific daily quests, which count towards Securing Draenor/Securing Draenor progress.

Do note that you cannot buy a missive for Assault on the Pit--you must wait for that group quest to spawn at your Command Table. But you can complete the other 11 daily quests via Scouting Missives for a total of 0 Garrison Resources. In 6.2.3, you can buy a missive for Assault on the Pit.

Guide to Apexis Crystal Dailies: Quest Progress, Locations, and TipsGarrison InvasionsReturn to Table of ContentsRevered With Three 6.2 FactionsDraenor PathfinderTanaan DiplomatTanaan Diplomat

Saberstalkers Reputation Guide

Order of the Awakened Reputation Guide

Hand of the Prophet Reputation Guide

Vol'jin's Headhunters Reputation Guide

How To Hit Revered

Order of the Awakened: 1500 reputation via Unseen Influence, requiring players to kill rares and loot treasures.

Saberstalkers: Kill elites for reputation, summon several elites for the weekly quest Rumble in the Jungle (3500 reputation), and a chance at Tooth and Claw for an extra 1500 reputation.

Hand of the Prophet/Vol'jin's Headhunters: Complete a short introductory questline, which unlocks three dailies, which in total grant 1000 reputation. A fourth daily has a chance to be up for an additional 250 reputation.

6.2 Garrison Campaignnot

Saberstalkers can be ground out, theoretically, in a day if you constantly kill elites and don't bother with daily quests.

Order of the Awakened will take 14 days, since it's only one daily after one initial quest.

Hand of the Prophet/Vol'jin's Headhunters has some variance. 2200 reputation is earned through initial quests, with a guaranteed 1000 reputation from dailies. It will take roughly 19 days at most to hit Revered, but there is a chance of getting another reputation quest for an extra 250 rep.

A Level 3 Trading Post Level 3 increases reputation gains in Draenor by 20%--this works with 6.2 factions. Learn how to construct this with our Guide to the Garrison Trading Post.

Guild Battle Standards increase reputation gains by 5% (Banner of Cooperation), 10% (Standard of Unity), and 15% (Battle Standard of Coordination).

WHEE!: Darkmoon Faire buff-ride the carousel for a minute and you'll get reputation gains increased by 10% for an hour.

Darkmoon Top Hat: 10% reputation gain for 1 hour, from Darkmoon Top Hat obtained during the Darkmoon Faire for 0 Darkmoon Prize Ticket.

Diplomacy: 10 % reputation gain, human racial.

Medallion of the LegionEldritch HorrorsHellbaneTrading Post Level 3Return to Table of ContentsReputation Rewards

Two new pets: Savage Cub and Blazing Firehawk

Four new mounts: Bristling Hellboar, Wild Goretusk, Deathtusk Felboar, Reins of the Corrupted Dreadwing

Two toys for each faction: Rukhmar's Sacred Memory, Karabor Councilor's Attire, Frostwolf Grunt's Battlegear

Empowered Augment Rune, a permanent Augment Rune.

Items to unlock two Equipment items for your Ships: Tuskarr Fishing Net and Unsinkable.

Ship Blueprint: Battleship to unlock Battleships and The Awakener as a powerful ship.

Return to Table of ContentsBlizzard Announcement

Blizzard

We appreciate the spirited discussion on the topic of flying. The subject has brought out passionate viewpoints and sparked insightful conversations on our official forums and blogs, on community sites, and in chat channels. Your feedback has been a valuable part of the ongoing conversations within Blizzard as well, and today, we’d like to share some updated plans for how we’ll handle flight going forward. The Thrill of Discovery At the heart of the initial plan to restrict flight in Draenor (even after players reach level 100) lies the design goal of providing the best moment-to-moment gameplay possible in the outdoor world. From navigating the lava flows of the Molten Front in Patch 4.2, to breaching the Thunder King’s stronghold in Patch 5.2, to reaching the heights of the Ordon Sanctuary on Timeless Isle in Patch 5.4, to uncovering secrets deep within Gorgrond’s jungles on Draenor, World of Warcraft is full of memorable moments that are only possible when players explore the world by ground. And as we’ve continued to develop content over the years, we’ve focused more and more on providing players with these kinds of experiences.However, while we firmly believe that keeping your feet on the ground is a key part of discovery in WoW, we also recognize that breaking free from those restrictions can be fun and rewarding as well, especially for those who’ve already fully experienced the game’s world content. With that in mind, we’re planning some changes in the near future that will allow players to enjoy their hard-earned flying mounts in Draenor—in a way that doesn’t compromise the excitement of ground-based exploration. Mastering the Outdoor World In an upcoming Public Test Realm build, we will be introducing a new meta-achievement called Draenor Pathfinder. You’ll earn this achievement in Patch 6.2 by mastering the outdoor environment of Draenor—exploring Draenor’s zones, collecting 100 treasures in Draenor, completing the Draenor Loremaster and Securing Draenor achievements, and raising the three new Tanaan Jungle reputations to Revered. Initially, this achievement will award a rylak mount: the Soaring Skyterror, one of the native beasts that roam Draenor’s skies. Players will remain ground-bound on Draenor until a small follow-up patch (6.2.x), when all players who have earned Draenor Pathfinder on at least one character will unlock the ability to fly in Draenor on all their level 90+ characters.We believe this strikes the right balance between ensuring ground-based content lives up to its full potential, while providing players who’ve already fully experienced Draenor’s outdoor world extra freedom to “break the rules.” This also provides a general blueprint going forward for content to come. Players will explore new and undiscovered lands from the ground, and then once they’ve fully mastered those environments—a notion that continues to evolve with each new expansion—they can take to the skies and experience the world from a new vantage point.Thank you for your heartfelt feedback. We’ll see you in (and soon, above) Tanaan Jungle.

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Vignettes of Tanaan Jungle

The Saberstalkers Reputation Guide

Rares and Treasures in Shadowmoon Valley

Rares and Exploration in Spires of Arak

Guide to Apexis Crystal "Assault" Dailies

Rares and Treasures in Frostfire Ridge

Draenor Content Made Easier by Flying

Rares and Exploration in Nagrand

Vol'jin's Headhunters Reputation Guide

Hand of the Prophet Reputation Guide

Order of the Awakened Reputation Guide

Rares and Treasures in Talador

Rares and Treasures in Gorgrond

Comments

Comment by solitha

Well, this is almost exactly what I asked for. As expected, I've done all the cheevos already available, which is why I was so bitter about being groundbound.

The addition of the Tanaan reps is a bit of a downer though. Being held back by one rep that only gives one daily... really? An artificial month's wait for something I should have had soon after dinging 100?

Mixed feelings. I unsubbed last night, before this was posted. I'll play on tokens instead; yes, I'm aware of the math involved, but it's not MY money going to them. It'll be going to another game.

Comment by Nehel

So far the best solution Blizzard made about flying. If you wanna get flying, work for it with exploring all the content we made. Archeology, here I come finally!

Comment by databob1

Am I the first to say anything?

While it is nice that they are going to put flying back into the game this doesn't change the fact that they are still forcing us to play the way they want us to play. Instead of putting in enough content for people to play they are holding flying hostage until we do what they believe is enough of what there is to do to allow us to have this skill.

Don't get me wrong I am thankful that they see how much many of the players love flying, but this method is very hard on player that do not have a lot of time to play. If this is the plan for future expansions it may turn many of your casual players off to the game.

In any case it's nice that the WoW development team is at least considering the concerns of the players

Comment by Gigabear

Pretty in depth considering the speed it was released. You guys sure you didn't get a heads up :)

Comment by theultimateend

Fairly excited about this.

Comment by Wolfsi

and, i regret,

i slacked to much on some of these achievements D:

Comment by Wolfie

Instead of buying treasure maps, you can load the addon Handy Notes Draenor Treasures to put markers for treasures. Just like the maps, they will disappear once you've collected them.

Comment by Arjuana

"Oh yeah, to be able to fly you must collect all the possible 40.000 achievements points first, including PVP."

I swear I heard that in my mind. (If it was so, only 4 players in all the gamer base would qualify or such).

I felt cheated out my flying already. I am already Loremaster in Draenor, I already ground (pun intended) ALL possible reputations, on a single character...

...Now I must grind another three factions... and really, chasing treasure boxes? I've been grinding apexis for quite a while now, and still that crap isn't enough? And still wait another micro-patch before I car "earn the skies, graaaaaawwwwkkkk" Ahem, I lost myself a bit out there, sorry.

GOOD HEAVENS! Now they are going to tell me that I must finish all the previous raids on Mythic first?

Whatever, you now sit and watch how many people are willing to complete all that stuff to be able to fly, and I bet that's a lotta people.

But, as Heelvs.Babyface screams out loud in his Youtube cast "That's not freaking !$@#%@$% relevant content anymoooooore!"

Well, anyhow, let's get on with it. I will be flying soon. Your argument is invalid.

Comment by Romire

I have a reason now to actually earn my flying instead of having to pay X amount of gold like we did in previous Xpacs!

Best move ever!

ITS GRINDING TIME!

Comment by mystery8

Wow, really fast. Thanks for making the guide! I'm pretty sure I've got everything I need already :)

Comment by Zawodowiec1532

Finally a good idea!

Comment by Arraya

I'm a bit disappointed that they decided to add it, but I'm happy that they made it a challenge, instead of having to pay a lot of gold for it :>
I hope they do this on all the new expansions, it will provide a challenge.

Comment by m2odkalb

on all lvl 90+ characters

Does that mean 90 is included or not? If it is, it's a good thing (NOT) that I used that free lvl90 boost on my rogue, to open ~80 Ghost Iron Boxes. /facepalm

Comment by Cantralian

I'm very happy with this announcement. It's seems a sound compromise (my rule of thumb: a sound compromise means everyone walks away slightly unhappy but with an agreement) and, hey, if you're someone with a lot of alts (18 at 100, with 7 still to level for me) this will actually save me a massive chunk of gold.

Comment by casonator

If you're like me and hate dailies, there will be some catching up to do for Securing Draenor. You'll notice that while you can buy items like Scouting Missive: Stonefury Cliffs, ~~there's no Scouting Missive for Assault on the Pit. You'll have to look out for this one to do it when it comes around to complete the achievement. Not sure why this is....~~

Edit: Just kidding, they put one in recently - Scouting Missive: The Pit.

Comment by PziCrow

FINALLY we get flying, YAY.
And for all of you flying-haters... Just don't fly! It's that easy ;)

Comment by Nzall

Doesn't Order of the Awakened only take 14 days to get to revered? 27 days sounds more like Exalted.

Comment by Zappadohdah

So... I have most of the things sorted on my main but if my poor little priest wants to fly in Draenor I'm guessing that she have to get those achievements also?

Comment by Demoneq

Will the "Draenor Pathfinder" meta be account wide? As in, grind reps on human (Diplomacy racial), explore and collect treasures on rogue (stealth+vanish), have Loremaster of Draenor on main (if they aren't human and/or rogue), etc.?

Comment by Gesika6

I found one problem. I was checking out my profiler and was looking for quests that I may have already done. I wrote them down in a notebook as they were written on this site. Well on the profiler I searched for completed quests in Draenor, and there was at least one that was condescending. In the Loremaster of Draenor link, it says under Spires of Arak, "Shadows Gather", but if you look at the real quest it is in fact "A Gathering of Shadows", which was confusing when checking off quests. Please fix this.

Comment by fifey157

So I completed the 4 achievements on one character. Can I get the rep on a different character and still receive the Pathfinder achievement?

Comment by Pokyscarykitty05

So since i know there's a "rylak" mount reward that blizzard hasn't announced the skin yet, i'd expect it to be lookalike of this :

http://www.wow-petopia.com/look/chimera_mountdark.html

This is a model using the rylak animation, but doesn't use the same skin. I VERY HIGHLY doubt that blizzard will make another mount that is like a rylak like the one from the shop, since it'd be a money loss. However, they still stated that it was going to be a "rylak mount" so even then, i'm only giving out my theory.

This model was speculated to be a incoming mount in wod, but was never precised when or how it was going to be obtained., However, it doesn't look like a beast from draenor much, so again, i'm only giving a possible theory.

Please feel free to upvote/ replay as you wish if you have opinions or information :)

Comment by Schadenfreude

I'm taking a break from WoW for school but I'm a little nervous at the idea of coming back to Draenor and trying to catch up with this while PVPers swoop down on ground-bound me as I try to grind out those reps. :/ Might have to avoid coming back until 7.0 (or if Blizzard has a mass transfer discount so I can GTFO this PVP server).

Comment by SirQuill

THANK YOU. Seriously, was it so hard?

Comment by seangay

Another great guide from you guys, thanks very much

Comment by SoundSpark

Neat idea for being able to fly in Draenor, but I rather just drop 5-10k gold and fly right away instead of doing a bunch of achievement/quest.

Comment by bmcgoughfl

"Hitting Revered means you need to grind out 21,000 reputation:"

No...that's for Exalted...right? Revered is one level below that...

Comment by lothie

The flying tool, when I load my toon, says I need to complete Grand Treasure Hunter, which is looting 200 treasures, but your guide and the original Blizz post say I just need to loot 100 treasures. I assume it's the 100 treasures which is correct, but you might want to revise your (otherwise very helpful) tool.

Comment by Landrilis

Maybe this has been asked already, but, does getting this achievement open it up for your alts as well?

Comment by Landrilis

Maybe this has been asked already, but, does getting this achievement open it up for your alts as well?

Comment by Dalee

Celebration whee!

I am in agreement that the reputations seem a bit... unnecessary, but hey. Getting to revered is half as hard as exalted, so I'm good. Hopefully the Saberstalkers aren't like Shaohao. Based on what I've read though, they seem a lot like the old Mag'har and Telaari reputations. Except you need 100 thingies, and what you're killing is elite.

As others have said though, with an achievement you save buckets of cash if you have a lot of alts! BUCKETS! If we just had to complete an achievement back in the last expansions, I'd be rolling in it! I think I'm ultra happy that I can continue to pet and hoard every single one of my pretty goldies.

Comment by ASN85692

Dear Blizz Dev's,

If I wanted to play jumping games I'g get out my old Nintendo console and play Mario Brothers.

Boo Blizz boo.

Comment by Ezekeil

WHEE!: Darkmoon Faire buff-ride the carousel for a minute and you'll get reputation gains increased by 10% for an hour.
Darkmoon Top Hat: 10% reputation gain for 1 hour, from Darkmoon Top Hat obtained during the Darkmoon Faire for 10.
These two buffs replace each other so you can get hats(which can be used anywhere) or ride the carousel then get some hats when the buff falls off.

Comment by talden

If I have done the loremaster and the explorer on a old character will it be counted as completed on the character that I play?

Comment by dooms

The Draenor Pathfinder will be a new meta-achievement in 6.2 that rewards the Soaring Skyterror mount as well as the ability to fly in Draenor on all lvl 90+ characters in a slightly later minipatch.
Draenor Pathfinder will be account-wide, so you can complete the following segments below on different characters!

i don't really get it.. so if i get the Draenor Pathfinder on 1 toon all my toon can fly cause its account-wide ? or i have to wait for slightly later minipatch?

Comment by Devrana

The guide above says you need 100 treasures and notes that the achievement for that is Master Treasure Hunter. Master Treasure Hunter is for 50 treasures. There is currently not an achievement for 100 treasures.

The Wowhead tool to check flying readiness, when you use it, says that if you don't have the Grand Treasure Hunter achievement, for 200 treasures, that the requirement is "Incomplete," so I suspect there is a typo or bit of misinformation somewhere.

Comment by casonator

I think the World (of Warcraft) dislikes this one very much. Based on MMO Champions stats, less than 5% of people have this achievement (3.72% out of 1.8 million players). Seems like most people hate these as much as I do! :)

Source: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/4946-Dev-Watercooler-Flying-in-Draenor .

Comment by nightelfbane

Exactly how many treasures do you need to discover? The guide says 100, the achievement linked in the guide says 100, but the same achievement in WoW says you need 50 to earn it, with the next level achievement being 200.

Comment by Bleedingheart

i think this sucks, it felt good to have a place were you couldnt fly, everyone will get the achivement and just skip everything to get to the mob they want,
dreanor should be a no flying zone

Comment by Arjuana

Given all the achievements for flying, it is just a matter of time before they require us to do the WHOLE Azeroth Loremaster achievement.

I guess will finish that one as well... just in case.

Comment by Malevaria

I'm very happy with this compromise out of Blizzard! They said they WANTED us to see the world and be immersed in it. This way they can be sure that before each player flies we have been everywhere and seen everything.

I want to fly because I do have a lot of beautiful dragons that I have worked hard for and earned achievements for. I also wish to fly because I fish a lot and because of archaeology. I spend so much time just trying to get to the site. Flying will cut that time in half easily.

Thank you Blizzard for considering those of us who have EARNED it.

Comment by Atarial

I'm really happy that Blizz compromised on this. I have very little time to play in the week and it ended up where I'd just log in, do Garrison, log out. I don't have time to wait for the fp's and then up/down/around mountain runs /rinse /repeat. The flavour bits like fishing and arch hasn't even happened this xpac cause I simply don't have enough time.

However, the idea to enforce ground explore before flying is great. I've seen the coolest things and died in the oddest places (to much frustration/laughter) just because I wanted to see what's around the next corner or over the hill. That wouldn't have happened had I just flown everywhere from day one.

Comment by Thilitin

Surprisingly enough it looks like getting flying in Draenor will be fairly easy. I just looked over my achievements on one toon and for the most part I have most of them and the few I lack should be easy enough to get.

It's a good trade off I suppose, I didn't really care much either way for flying or not flying in this expansion so free mount here I come lol.

Comment by lostpuppy1976

I'm just wondering if you have more then 1 account on your battle.net do they all get the achievement? or do you have to do it on each account?

Comment by axerip

blizzard just said that this achievement " unlocks " flying ...i haven't heard them say there won't still be an exorbitant flight training still.

Comment by Plowsters

This will make Treasures in Spires of Arak SO much easier! I already have the achieve but if you don't like questing much finding treasures and doing bonus objectives is a GREAT alternative! This is a great alternative to learn flying instead of forking over my hard earned gold to learn it!

Comment by Augustanna

Huh, I wanted to add my character to http://www.wowhead.com/flying , but my realm (Burning Legion EU, US one is available) doesn't appear on list for me...

Comment by Aerynsun8449

I'm wondering how accurate this link to pathfinder is here. I just leveled a character up to 93, completed Frostfire Ridge and have just got the quest for Goren! Goren! Gone! (haven't even started it yet) and thought I'd check to see if I actually completed all the quests I needed for Frostfire Ridge.

Much to my surprise I'm showing a 100% complete for "Don't let the Tala-door hit you on the way out." 25% completion for "Putting the Gore in Gorgrond." and 11.1% completion for "Between Arak and a hard place."
I've just barely set foot in Gorgrond. Never set foot in Talador or Spires of Arak.

How can I have 100%, 25% and 11.1% quests completed in these zones?

It can't be because of account wide achievements because I have another character that has 100% completion for Don't let the Tala-Door Hit You On The Way Out, 77.8% completion for Between Arak and a Hard Place, 75% completion for Putting the Gore in Gorgrond.

Comment by 1kriewaldt

Is the treasure part of the achievement account wide? It's not clearly stated in the guide.

Comment by Noshimo

Does anyone know if you can just go to the areas where the Securing Draenor dailies would send you and do them, without the daily in your quest log, and get credit?

Comment by OstinTH

Does anyone know if I can complete Securing Draenor on one character and then get revered with the 3 factions on another character and still get Draenor Pathfinder? Or do I have to complete Securing Draenor and get revered on the 3 factions all on the same character?

Comment by Vortilion01

So if I understand it correctly: I don't have to achieve "Securing Draenor" e.g. on my main character if I already got it with an alt, but want to collect the other achievements with my main?

- Securing Draenor on alt
- rest of achievements on main

Is that correct?

Comment by Poemfordumbs

Finally, I can ride my poor poor Serpent!

Comment by Slashcuddle

flying is deffinitly the best in 6.2 :D

Comment by bmalka

this may be a silly question, but do you need an alliance and horde character to get flying in draenor?

the shadowmoon valley quest line is an alliance only so im just wondering?

Comment by Rossit

I gotta say I thik this is the final deal buster for me. Blizz dont want us to play a game, they want those of us challenged for time to waste it attempting to have something we have had since TBC.

I think I'll make WoD the end of my WoW career I just dont have the time for the Legendary and now for flying.

Blizz shove your game.

Comment by Khadgar7

It'll be a good challenge but so worth it!

Comment by Ckopocmb

1-2 min cd on Aviana's Feather would be enough. MISTAKE BLIZZZ

Comment by Shadow191

Finally :)

Comment by Pawwolf

Awesome guide. I'm glad they're not just giving flying away & making ppl earn it, however I do think they should reserve flying for lvl 100 chars.

Comment by cedricm

Can I have the reputation achievement on one character and the other achievements on another ?
Or must they all be on the same character to unlock flying ?

Comment by Axell666

back to fly is the best thing of the patch :D

Comment by arszel

Does anybody know if this achievement will be available even after the patch in which the flight is released hits or will it turn into a feat of strength, preventing those who did not complete it previously from getting it forever?

Comment by enumalish999

This right now is my favorite thing about Patch 6.2... yippee!
I could not wait to be able to fly again in Draenor. Awesome guide and profile link for your character inventory for what you need to do about flying!

Comment by enumalish999

Flying for me is the best thing in the new patch 6.2 . I am sure I will find more things later, but, I have been waiting for flying in Draenor. My druid really, really misses her flight form! Great guide and profile guide for Pathfinder. I very much appreciate the guide and the ability to plug my character in to see what is needed to complete. Wowhead.com for me is the WOW "bible".!

Comment by JustJinxed

Full explore, full rep grind, 11 missions and blah blah blah..

Good grief... And you know darn well Blizzard is going to add a new flight training, just to help drain off some of your hard earned gold. Who'd like to make that wager?

Personally, I'm sick of all the ledges that look climbable but aren't, and all the ledges I find that look like they shouldn't be climbable, but are! It's like Bliz decided to throw out standard formula for hills and ledges this expansion, which makes getting around in Draenor, that much more painful.

Don't get me wrong, I'm so very thankful for the mage tower and the smart placement of flight paths. I just wish they'd maybe add a few more strategic graveyards. I did run into a 3 minute walk to my body once, because I had to walk around a giant mountain.

Part of the majesty of WoW is flying. I love it. I love flying low to the ground and exploring places I haven't been in the old content, since the cataclysm. The idea that there is a single zone you can't fly in, that isn't under ground or under water, is just silly to me. In my opinion, 3D space is what gives WoW a major edge, apart from other MMO's.

Comment by JustJinxed

BTW, You down voters do know that by down voting a comment, you are calling attention to it for moderator attention? Down vote is not meant to be used to show your disagreement with someones post about flying or kissing blizzard rump, it's meant to reduce spam, and call attention to spam posts.

Quit down voting comments just because you didn't want flying in the new expansion! :P

Comment by Alixie

Are you able to fly in Tanaan Jungle after unlocking Draenor flying?

Comment by Roxstar1

@wowhead #DraenorPathfinderCompletionTool Awesome. Thank you.

Comment by firewalkergray

I wish we were able to fly in draenor ..!

Comment by deathknight54

I think it is great that we all have a chance to fly in Draenor. It's very hard trying to get through all the mobs on some of the quests. Witchey

Comment by Kalethiria

There are tons of things I love about the implementation of this achieve, since you get the convenience of flying once again, but this time without the ease of just buying it; you need to be committed, and you earn it. Great idea.

That said, I have to say that this mount looks like its previous owner spilled a keg full of various hamburger condiments on it and then refused to give it a bath. Just my opinion.

Comment by Netspook

Same old story. When Blizzard runs out of ideas, they introduce new factions to grind rep for. And they even suggests doing it in the next expansions, too. Rep grinds isn't "experiencing the contents", it's braindead borefests.

I think it's time to say goodbye, there's no point in following this train wreck any longer. There are better options.

Comment by Macumazhan

Ok, i read it, i think about it and finally i deducted i dont need ti fly in draenor

Comment by Desertcobra

Ok, here's the question. After you jump through all blizz's hoops, how do you turn on flying?

Just read Blizz's note. Bummer! work tail off to get it now, only to find out at some undetermined time in future, Blizz will let us fly.

Just another Blizz crock.

Comment by Holyshadoww

Done! that wasnt too hard

Comment by rpalmeri

Players will remain ground-bound on Draenor until a small follow-up patch (6.2.x), when all players who have earned Draenor Pathfinder on at least one character will unlock the ability to fly in Draenor on all their level 90+ characters.

Any ideas as to when this small follow up patch will happen? Having just completed the achievement, I would NOT be pleased to wait a long time to earn the benefits. So, get a move-on Bliz! :op

Comment by Asclepius99

Yes, I'm quite happy with the decision to make us earn flying.
Garrisons cost me a couple hundred thousand gold and I'm not even done. Flying shouldn't be something you pay for.

At first, the list of achieves needed seemed quite daunting, but now that I've finally got most of it done, I can look back and say it was worth it and I earned the right to fly. It's not a grind, like everyone wants to say it is. It's about LORE and experiencing the world of warcraft, or in this case the new expansion area and lore that comes with it. Blizzard works hard to create this game, and everyone just wants to rush through it to get max level and ignore the RP content. I'm guilty of this for sure. I've never cared much for the lore even though I enjoy the game and have played since Wrath, but I was enlightened recently when I took almost 2 years off all games, then started up playing other games and eventually coming back to WoW because there is nothing that really compares. I enjoyed the lore of other games, and realized I just ignored it all this time in WoW because leveling seemed such a grind when all I wanted to get max level. Well, I say to all of you, enjoy the lore while you play, don't ignore all of it because it really adds to the experience of playing a video game. Absorbing the world in a game is what takes you away from reality.

It is a lot of time and effort to get Pathfinder, yes, but it will be worth it when you can soar into the air in draenor! Especially if you still have 90s or less that need to level up. If you choose not to, undoubtedly you will be jealous of everyone that is flying by you, wishing you could fly as well. ;)
Oh, and getting a new mount for the achieve too, instead of just do all this stuff so you can fly, it's "here's a hard achieve, but we're giving you a new mount to make it more worth the while, in case flying isn't something your too concerned about." I like it.

(ok, yes, the Order of awakened is a grind... but c'mon, this is Blizz we're talking about.. they 'gotta' throw in a grind somewhere. Look on the bright side, you only have to do it ONCE! :)

Comment by OrbitStorm

This is quite possibly the worst of the requisites for Pathfinder.

Exploration, quests, bonus objectives and treasure hunting all seems natural. Grinding reputation for weeks (possibly months?) just seems ludicrous. I'm not really all that eager for flying in Draenor; my only concern is how much of an impact flying will have on PvP and chances for rare spawns (i.e. mounts) given how tedious this achievement will be to complete. There are a good many folks who already have this achievement done, or near done, while many others (such as myself) are only around the halfway mark. The irony in unlocking flying is that it's supposed to be a reward for those who experience content but I'm confident in saying that anyone who has this achievement done already, likely hasn't taken time to "appreciate" the content as Blizz is asking.

Ah well. Cue the down-voting.

Comment by WinningOne

I am surprised at the number of positive responses this "compromise" has received. There have been a few times over the years which the devs micromanaged gameplay by forcing players to visit content for the sake of the experience and I have never enjoyed it. If the content being created is so fun then people will walk/run/ride all on their own. It seems to me that leaving flying as it was appeals to a much wider audience. The people who want to get down and "experience" the content can do so and the people who have other interests can do that too. I just can't see the logic here. It really seems like this is more about the devs than the players.

Comment by TBrownMoo

I'm almost finished with this, but I thought it worth noting that Assault on Shattrath Harbor isn't able to picked up on a daily. You have to buy the Scouting Missive. I put in a ticket with Bliz and they assured me that if it's a bug, it will be fixed but they said it probably isn't.

Comment by riris

hi. I have been playing wow since 2009, 6 years. I have explored every zone of every world including draenor, but i think you are asking too much to gain the flying which we have already earned previously doing quests, paying out loads of gold for flying licences and skills, paying for unique flying mounts from your shop which are effectively useless. there are areas in every zone which are virtually unobtainable on foot. now come on guys, be fair. If someone does not wish to fly and explore the world properly, everywhere, they don't have to. please rectify this.

Comment by Mosabus38

I found that the path finder achievement was a challenge

Comment by globalgirl1977

Question for speculation!
>> If you are a lazy type or a player of limited time/limited non-heavy-lag-times (I am largely the latters but sometimes the former), and you are willing to be patient, does it make sense to go through the aggravating rep. grind when there is a good chance that in the next X-Pac flying will again be restricted but ultimately purchasable with gold? As per the BC, WotLK, MoP models. Thus possibly facilitating flying in Draenor, and, if not, you probably aren't going to care anyway.

The other requirements are manageable and still moderately interesting if given enough time. Moderately. But the fresh from zero new reps, with only few dailies, makes for the minimal time playing annoying, boring, frustrating and could lead to subscription cancellation.
So: To grind or not to grind?

*My apologies if this has been asked previously; I must have missed it.*

Comment by Skean

Tips for speeding up reputation:
...

Guild Battle Standards increase reputation gains by 5% ( Banner of Cooperation), 10% ( Standard of Unity), and 15% ( Battle Standard of Coordination).

Unfortunately reputation for Order of the Awakened and the Ally/Horde faction required only award rep from quests, which the Guild Battle Standards do not apply bonuses to. It's a bit silly that they don't actually, as every other bonus listed does apply to quests.

Comment by Vingeskudt

Use this Addon to easy see on your map where you need to go for explor.

"Explorer Coords"
http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/explorercoords

Comment by Derren

According to the WoW blog ( http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19852518/draenor-pathfinder-prepare-for-flying-8-13-2015 )

"All characters will need to reach Revered reputation with three Tanaan Jungle factions, including the Saberstalkers and the Order of the Awakened......."

Im confused. I need to hit revered on all my alts to be able to fly or only unlock it on one toon = can fly on my alts without revered?

Comment by Random0009

I will not fly in Draenor. Simple. It's easy to do this "content". Just making long and boring grinds with no proper motivation. Why the f**k should I do this stupid achievment, when Legion is coming? All the time in Draenor I used ground mounts. I think I can handle next few months. :-) And after that? Ground mounts again. Maybe I would consider if the expansion release date was like 11/2016, but that is not going to happen.

If there was some awesome mount - OK, maybe that COULD motivate me. But flying as a reward? I say LOL! (Don't see the motivation in Skyterror.)

UPDATE
I've checked my achievments and it wouldn't take long to complete it, but 3 reputations at REVERED? Sorry, I absolutely HATE doing dailies (doing the same things all around is incredibly annoying). How lucky I was when I could complete Pandaria reputations via Lost Insignias from Zandalari Warbinders and Warscouts, or farming Firestorm eggs from Timeless Isle. If these things weren't included, I would probably never had Cloud Serpents, Cranes, Shado-Pan Tigers or Amber Scorpion. But here, I'm almost pretty sure I will just not fly. Blizzard can choke themselves with these mindless grinds.

Comment by hedasero

creo que blizzard la sigue cagando, la verdad hacer semejante cantidad de cosas para volar, prefiero seguir asi, encima de que draenor no da ni ganas de ir por alla, a ver un mundo aburrido sin nada nuevo y sin volar o mejor aun para volar hay que desmadrarse con misiones, pues jodanse, yo soy pvp y solo juego wow poque me gustasn las RBGs y las arenas, y a blizzard se le olvida que hay jugadores que no pueden perder todo el día en pendejadas para poder volar porque tenemos un trabajo y una vida.

En vez de poner semejante cantidad de idioteces porque no ponen una arena nueva, una rbg nueva, quiten esa bazofia de draenor y pongon algo que lo haga ir a uno a un nuevo continente, no a morirse del aburrimiento.

Comment by Bitterknees

Worthless.

All this grind and another thing that is not needed.

Redo Blizzard.

Else me and many others wont do it.

Comment by blessedkali

you have GOT to be kidding me. all the people who say this torturous route to flying is a good idea must be on the blizzard payroll.

why would i want to go all through this to GET flying. shouldn't you give me flying so i CAN go through all this?

this is ABSOLUTELY terrible.

Comment by azshari

do i need to do this quests for all my characters to unlock flying in draenor
or the achiv shared with all characters in my account ?

i have 25 characters and im sure that ill not do this for all my account characters

Comment by Adhe

"requires players to complete Apexis quests from the Command Table in your Garrison Town Hall"

That is key information I should have had because I skimmed this but did not have because I skimmed this. Definitely has to be a scouting missive or a table quest (from your Garrison or Lion's Den) or it doesn't count.

This is why peruse and not skim. :)

Comment by ChaosAlmanac

Problem is though to all flying haters, Blizzard shot themselves in the foot by adding flying mounts in their own shop! So people paying real money for a flying mount to have to leave lovely draenor to fly it? After 5000 sales they prob realized they screwed up & to save face added the pathfinder achi to fly! Thats probably why Blizzard are prolonging the wait to implement the patch, make a big deal out of it!

Comment by Galesdeydria

Can I earn this achievement if I do Securing Draenor/Master Treasure Hunter on Alliance and Tanaan Diplomat/Loremaster on Horde? Or do I have to do all of them on one faction?

Comment by skylinkdave

After you get the achievement, how much gold will it cost to be able to fly in Draenor? If history is any indication, my guess is about 10k...

Comment by tunedef1998

Woot! hype!

Comment by Mumps

https://youtu.be/ba7rRfKIHxU

Thanks for the help WoWHead! :D

Comment by m4j0r

What a torture to do this and I am sure they have no idea y ppl are still leaving the game this is becoming boring by the patches literally.

Comment by redhorde

I still have a few things left to do to get flying. Thanks for the guide! It is a big help keeping track of what needs to be done.

Comment by Syngyn

Flying in Draenor....awesome! Glad that I'm a treasure finding junkie!

Comment by LiriusMagi

Is it shared between the characters? If I complete this achievement on one toon, do I have to go and do it on another all over to get flying there as well?

Comment by creulon

I agree flying must be earned and pathfinding achievement is a great idea, but I see reputation grinding too limiting for casual players: Reputations have always been something "extra" allowing players to have access to exclusive items if they worked hard for them. I see flying as a core mechanic of the game and restricting it only to players that have more time to play the game is kind of unfair. I hope they will change this for Legion.

Comment by dazzaleah

What are the limitations for a passenger on a 2-seater flying mount that has not unlocked Draenor flying requirements yet? Are they able to hitch a ride just around the jungle, and does the passenger get "ejected" when you try to fly them into the new areas?

Comment by EsCanavi

Still waiting for "Assault on The pit" for the past 1week and a half. RNG is killing my flying req, seriously this shouldn't be an issue.... lol.

Comment by kakadorez

this must be the stupidest idea blizzard had so far.....been grinding on that dumb ach. for days now. paid like 10 k a charater to fly.....it's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo boring. But i quess blizzard found away to take money from loyal players AGAIN...........

Comment by selkie47

I have it all done except the rep grind. Now, I am all for grinding rep if there are quests to do. IF THERE ARE QUESTS TO DO. A single daily and a bunch of mob grinding is not fun at all. Everything else in the reqs I can live with but this? Yuck. And to make it more an insult, the saberon mobs are elite? Wow...

Comment by LiriusMagi

Can this be completed using achievements that are shared between characters? (Like if I complete the loremaster on a toon I am leveling and kill 2 birds with one stone, and then do the reps on an already 100, etc) or do I need to do the whole grind on one toon?

Comment by munkey69

**Important information for flying with your level 90 alts in Draenor**

For people wondering why they cannot fly in Draenor from the first quest.. Draenor flying is only unlocked once you get passed the mission that gives you the achievement Welcome to Draenor for the horde or Welcome to Draenor for the alliance.

Comment by Doloria

Thanks for the link http://www.wowhead.com/flying that allows you to see your progress on a character for Draenor Pathfinder. You don't have to be a Wowhead member or login (if you are) to use this. Very nice.

If you want to check your progress in-game through the Achievements icon, the achievements are under different tabs:

Quests/Draenor:
Loremaster of Draenor/Loremaster of Draenor
Master Treasure Hunter
Securing Draenor/Securing Draenor
Exploration/Draenor:
Draenor Explorer
Reputation/Draenor:
Tanaan Diplomat/Tanaan Diplomat

Didn't see the Draenor Pathfinder achievement itself listed.

Comment by Randomname2

Loremaster is NOT ACCOUNT WIDE. It is faction-wide. I cannot believe you guys didn't include this in the write up. Now I have to re-do two zones. Unreal.

Comment by Syxing

I don't know if anyone else noticed it, but on the 16th AND the 17th of September, The "Assault on The Pit" Quest was available from the garrison table. I think, that Blizzard makes The Pit quest appear, when they know, that a lot of people only needs that one quest for getting their "Draenor Pathfinder" Achievement which i got the 17th. I don't know if this helps anybody :P it was just a little thinking.

I don't know if The Pit appeared on other servers, i only checked mine (Stormscale EU)

Comment by tkalfaoglu

Life is too short for all these agonizing requirements.

Comment by penycat

okay maybe I'm totally missing it here, but I completed all the assaults, had it on my pathfinder page here to 100% now I get back after a week of being gone and it's back to set 0%...what what?

Comment by shrikearghast

Not even slightly worth the effort. Just wait for Legion, and buy this silliness when it changes to purchasable with 7.0.

Comment by dnmynatt

I could have done this without WoWHead.com.

But it would have taken me another 12 months. Great info to finish Draenor Pathfinding Acheivement. Actually I'm still working on the last part getting the reputations, but I would have certainly given up without this site. The last part can be a drag, especially the Saberstalkers, you have to grind each day to get the reputation. That's not so fun. But the quests for the other two are fun at first, then they get old, 12,000 for exalted is a lot of grinding. But I see a silver lining at least, about ten days from writing this. Just knuckle down and do it. As far as the rest, Blizzard was right, there is a ton of content, toys, junk, lore, and critters I would have missed because I went up to 100 at hyper speed. In fact I was working on some quest in Panda land after reaching 90 and was still getting leveling up with those quests, I think I got to about 93. All you have to do is at 90 establish a garrison in Draenor, and get a stone, then you can go back to Pandaria and continue finishing quests there. I like Draenor but I liked Pandaria a lot better, had more nuances, culture that was new, better feel. So thanks Wowhead, you guys have done good. So has Blizzard, but I'm hoping for more exotic with the next expansion, like the concepts in Pandaria.

Comment by ninodrdns

Question about the account wide achievements. do i have to complete everything in 1 character for it work?
for example. my warrior, has loremaster and treasure hunter done, and almost done with explore draenor. say i wanted to finish the pathfinder quest on my mage who is stronger but i rushed him to 100 and only got some achievements along the way but it still shows me that i have the loremaster and master treasure hunter achievement. do i have to get both achievements again on my mage for it to count to the pathfinder achievement?

i just want to finish it with my mage because it has done a lot of the rep quest, almost done with the 2 already.

Comment by Catoria

Why does it say "Hitting Revered means you need to grind out 21,000 reputation:" - no. Hitting revered is 12k. Exalted is 21k.

Comment by Commack

what is the level requirement to fly in draenor? My level 70 cant but my 82 can...

Comment by bigkforex

I realize that my opinion won't mean much but here it is. This obsession you have to keep us on the ground is not matched with you taking the time to truly make the gameplay fun. I will tell you it is nothing but grinding and dying. I play solo and don't have the aid of a group to help me. I did reach level 100 as a death knight, but I don't have the capability to kill beasts with 500k of health in addition to others in the area joining in. Your gameplay sucks. I had a daily pop up the other day where there were several beasts in the area with massive health. I had to throw everything I had the kill one with only 8% health left and several great capabilities on cooldown. You wonder why you are loosing so many players, this is one reason why. Your gameplay for solo players like me just plain sucks. I quit playing last year and just came back two months ago to play the Warlords of Draenor, but I am not sure how long I will stick around again. You need to make the gameplay fun and not just a grind. Karl

Comment by joonjoon819

For Securing Draenor, is the quest necessary? Can't you just go to the locations and fill the bar up without a quest? That doesn't count for achievement?

Comment by jjTruffle

I like the idea they were going for with experiencing the content but i really do not enjoy them forcing people to grind for weeks. The exploration quests and treasure were all good enough.They could have made a separate achievement for the mount. I really hate rep grinds and i dont find them fun oh well i guess.

Comment by Pr0Pancakes

I think i'd first drag my nuttsack down the drive way

Comment by BluTaiger

So here's a puzzle for you.

One time when I was playing my rogue - who's only level 61 - I looked in the "General" tab of the spellbook and found Draenor Pathfinder outlined in shiny gold and telling me to see my trainer.

Can anyone explain to me how or why it came to be there? Or what to do with it?

Comment by sivla

Am I the only here who has mass misgivings with this flying system
Being able to fly in Tanaan Jungle gives a very distinct and unfair advantage to those who can fly. This means those who don't have flying for whatever reason, such as trying to get Pathfinder, cannot because there are now never any rares up simplly because those who do fly are able to swoop down kill the rare, and onto the next rare.

Blizzard ensured there would never be any flying on Timeless Isle for this exact very reason.

Tanaan is their to help people gear up for beginning raiders, by giving a chance to get baleful equipments from rares, if people can't any longer get to those rares, there is a significant fault it, and it also explains why many more people have quit playing.

The idea you need to get a massive rep gain, is stupid for so many reasons. Firstly those on flying mounts are also doing the same things as you, except from a different perspective.

How do you get to a rare when all it takes for someone who can fly, to swoop down and take the kill? It completely defeats the reason why there should be no flying in the zone..and who ever came up with that idea should have been sacked Tanaan should be a no fly zone I am only parroting what many other people have told me and agree with.

Comment by Rylak

Faction transfers will reset your progress on Securing Draenor/Securing Draenor as they are faction specific quests which complete the achievement.

The Faction Change Basics, Eligibility, and Limitations support page states:

Faction-specific completed quests will be lost and will no longer count toward any completed quests counters.

So if you're planning on doing a faction transfer, make sure you complete this achievement first.

I had one more to go and didn't think of this, had to do it all over again >_<

Comment by Zhee

I hate not being able to fly, but I hate doing dailies and rep grinding even more.
Never mind. I'll keep on walking. Actually, I'm cancelling my subscription anyway. I used to love flying around on my druid alt to gather herbs. It was relaxing. Can't do that now, unless I go to the older content.

Comment by gamingchick

How do I whitelist Wowhead so I can see the information? Help, please!

Comment by Bloodspeaker

Do all the parts of Draenor Pathfinder have to be completed by the same character to count? Or could you complete the quests on...lets say a warrior and then do the rep on a hunter or something?

Comment by eahjordan

I got a friend to sign up (Not through RAF) and when he hit 20 it said he unlocked flying in draenor. So when he used his free 90 boost he could fly straight away..not sure how he got that.

Comment by Oakwarden

While the meta achievement is account-wide, completing the quest chains for individual zones is per-character progress. So while character A can complete Don't Let the Tala-door Hit You on the Way Out and character B can complete Nagrandeur to give credit towards Loremaster of Draenor, character A cannot complete 2 questlines in Don't Let the Tala-door Hit You on the Way Out, and character B the rest.

IMPORTANT NOTICE: (missing from all the guides I ran across)
Characters A and B have to be on same faction!

The achievement is account-wide, yes. But you can't do four zones on Alliance and the fifth on Horde, unfortunately. Once completed 5/5 on either faction, the meta achi will be completed for both sides.

Comment by VelaraXendr

imho the achievement is an alt killer, as you have to cover every square inch in the xpac and do everything there is to do just to unlock flying. By that time, who would ever want to see any part of Draenor again? When the new xpac launches (assuming I buy it, which is very questionable, given the absolute $%^& that WoD is) my 48 alts will skip the area altogether. Enough of feeding dev egos.

Let's get back to the good old days where you complete the content by leveling through it, then pay gold to unlock flight. Easy, quick, simple and accomplishes enough in the area on one toon to make the other, unexplored areas appealing.

If Legion does not contain such a feature, but instead requires me to cover every single event, occurrence, quest, area, inch and thing to do JUST to get the flight ability, I will just skip Legion and say goodbye to WOW until they get a new set of devs who understand that players just want to FLYYYY! And I would prefer to leave many areas of a new xpac untouched by my main, leaving them to my alts instead. I mean really who wants to repeat content they've already done? Not I, said the duck. If I pass on Legion it will be the first time in 12 years that WOW will not be my "go to" game. I'll focus on my many others, instead, including, but not limited to, FF14, GW2, SWTOR, STO and Neverwinter. If I play WOW, it will be to roll new alts and do old content where you can just fly when you've finished leveling.

Comment by ranafuineluva

Will this be unlocked to Level 100's with gold after the launch of the Legion?

Comment by pmeirelesneto

To summarize: I enjoyed all the exploration, lore quests and secure requirements but revered rep farm with three factions? Are you kidding me? I simply refuse to do this ungrateful grind for 20 days. I am earthbound now, thank you.

Comment by Masiaka

I'm going to call BS on Blizzard making flying available only to players "who’ve already fully experienced Draenor’s outdoor world". Faction grinding through 3 reputations, without tabbards, which involves a singular daily quest for each faction is not an "experience". It is a firewall designed to keep players out for as long as possible. The new Legion achievement has even more factions. I get needing to make players work/experience all content before hand, but faction grinding is punishment, not pleasure to a player.

Comment by clerris

Personally, I spent quite a lot of time, preparing to be able to fly in draenor. Even now legion is out I would still like to wrap up the final bits. (I've spent this amount of time, now I'm damn well getting it!)

I'm only missing a couple dailies for securing draenor. I've bought the missives, and the quests are in my quest log. Unfortunately, whenever I enter a zone, the quest does not seem to be triggered. I can see the outlines of the zone on the map, the mobs have the golden halo indicating that they can help further a quest. But I don't get the progress bar at the bottom of my screen. After grinding the mobs for quite a bit (and relogging some times) I seem to be unable to finish any of the quests.

Does anyone else have this issue as well? Is there a way to solve this?

P.S.
I'm lvl 103 (not sure whether that affects things).

Comment by cbarria

anyone knows if you still need all this done to fly there if you are playing legion patch? its 2017 LOL!

Comment by Sanderdun

First of all Blizzard the fluff comments aren't fooling any one, we know your minions are posting positives the same as a savy consumer never reads the five star reviews on Amazon.

No real paying players are happy about pathfinder.

You know what people didn't like about the Mists of Pandaria they didn't like that once you reached level 90 it was a load of bull to get to the area to retrain to use a flying mount. The rest of the complaints was just auxiliary anger from the former.

Now not only have you repeated the same mistake you have worked your hardest to compound it.

What load of confounded bull crap is the pathfinder achievement. If you want to restrict flying fine make no fly zones, and area level caps.

But, no body is happy happy about this.

The requirements are too ridged. Your gonna sit there with a straight face and tell us that we wont get Draenor flying until we have completed most of the area! Whats the actual point.

I speak for common paying customers who have lives outside of WOW, bills to pay, and mouths to feed. We have already bent over backwards to meet the requirements to train in flying not once but twice. This is gonna be the straw that kills the camel.

Ain't no body got time for path finder.

As we speak I am finding it almost impossible to convince my wife who has her own separate account to come if the money for the Draenor expansion.

Because, of pathfinder and its confounded requirements.

Not only do I demand by the power of the price of my subscription that the requirements be lessened, but also I demand that the person responsible for pathfinder be publicly shamed.

Because they are sucking all the enjoyment out of an otherwise great game

Comment by Maelstrom1984

On "Securing Draenor", the WOWhead guide suggests that completing all quests once should secure Draenor. I have completed all quests at least once, and have purchased quests to complete doing each several times, and still have not completed "Secure Draenor". Is there a bug? Am I missing something? I used to enjoy gaming with WOW, but lately it more like going to work (that I pay to do), than a relaxing fun entertainment. I need wings in Draenor, please.

Comment by Krasod

Having Battle Standard of Coordination out when completing Rumble in the Jungle does not yield 15% additional reputation as the guide suggests. You will only get 3500 rep.

Comment by Nico2000NL

So by the time you can actually fly in Dreanor, you don't need to anymore, You don't want to anymore...
Great Game design Blizzard retards...

Comment by Nico2000NL

Unfortunately. Pathfinder doesn't seem to update my profile anymore....

Comment by Guldoran

Its 2018 and months away from BFA and we still can't buy flying in Draenor. It's not worth doing all you have to do to get the flying at this point. A level 110 doesn't want to spend days/weeks/months or however long it takes to get the flying there when all that is there for them at this point is cosmetic upgrades.

Draenor Pathfinder: How To Unlock Flying in Draenor

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