What in the world is this used in? And why would anyone spend all time it takes to get revered and buy a recipe for something you can get just by farming outland for awhile? Is it cause only miners can get the motes for fire or something? Personally I would rather as a bsmith in guild to farm for me if thats the case and give him some gold for his time.

評論來自 Thottbot

this really sucks... Earth are like 6 g on my server and fire are worth much more

評論來自 Thottbot

I do most of my farming for motes on the elemental plateau in Nagrand, and from the drop rates there I can see a good reason for this recipe. Motes of Fire drop at nearly 40%, while Motes of Earth are at around 20-25%. So I can see this as saving me a lot of time in general grinding. Of course if I had another way to get earth motes, through mining or whatever it might be different, but I'm an herb/alchemist.

評論來自 Thottbot

Due to Blizzard's new "Learn the recipe by chance while making something else" system, this recipe becomes useful in completing a full circle transmute of primals. Fire -> Earth -> Water -> Air -> Fire. For someone who has no immediate need of specific primals, they can transmute a single one once a day for as long as they'd like. Although this is a fairly slow method, it only requires mats the first time.

So a person could in theory, log on to their alchemist once a day, spend 10 seconds transmuting a primal, and go on to doing whatever else they wanted to. Hopefully, learning a new transmute or potion.

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Argent Dawn

Recipe: Transmute Air to Fire (Alchemy (275)) - Honored - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=9716

Cenarion Expedition

Recipe: Transmute Earthstorm Diamond (Alchemy (350)) - Honoured - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=55128
Recipe: Transmute Primal Water to Air (Alchemy (350)) - Revered - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=55136
Recipe: Major Nature Protection Potion (Alechemy (360)) - Exalted - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=55142
Recipe: Flask of Distilled Wisdom (Alchemy (300)) - Exalted - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=55143

Honor Hold & Thrallmar

Recipe: Elixir of Major Agility (Alchemy (330)) - Honored - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=54617/暗矛罩氅
Recipe: Transmute Skyfire Diamond (Alchemy (350)) - Honored - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=54627

Keepers of Time

Recipe: Flask of Supreme Power (Alchemy (300)) - Exalted - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=54486

Kurenai & The Mag'har

Recipe: Transmute Primal Fire to Earth (Alchemy (350)) - Revered - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=57937

Lower City

Recipe: Elixir of Major Shadow Power (Alchemy (350)) - Revered - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=55204
Recipe: Flask of Chromatic Resistance (Alchemy (300)) - Exalted - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=55219

Scryer

Recipe: Elixir of Major Firepower (Alchemy (345)) - Revered - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=54555/monster-mace-1h-troll-head

The Sha'tar

Recipe: Transmute Primal Air to Fire (Alchemy (350)) - Revered - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=56754
Recipe: Alchemist's Stone (Alchemy (350)) - Revered - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=55232
Recipe: Flask of the Titans (Alchemy (300)) - Exalted - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=55238

Sporeggar

Recipe: Transmute Primal Earth to Water (Alchemy (350)) - Revered - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=55245
Recipe: Shrouding Potion (Alchemy (335)) - Exalted - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=55241

Thorium Brotherhood

Recipe: Transmute Elemental Fire (Alchemy (300)) - Friendly - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=52437

Timbermaw Hold

Recipe: Transmute Earth to Water (Alchemy (275)) - Friendly - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=19005/初級治療石

Zandalar Tribe

Recipe: Greater Dreamless Sleep Potion (Alchemy (275)) - Friendly - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=37098/精神卷軸-viii
Recipe: Major Troll's Blood Potion (Alchemy (290)) - Honored - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=36823/柔軟光潔的羽毛
Recipe: Mageblood Potion (Alchemy (275)) - Revered - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=37144/秘法怨靈鍊衫
Recipe: Living Action Potion (Alchemy (285)) - Exalted - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=51106

Total = 23

評論來自 Thottbot

Saddest part is if you go out behind Telaar the earth elementals drop them at a fair rate. This transmute deemed completely worthless.

評論來自 Thottbot

All the basic elemental primal transmutes are circular: Air -> Fire -> Earth -> Water -> Air.

If you're a master transmuter and possess all of these transmutes, you can perform 4 transmutes on the same beginning primal and end up where you started. In the process you have 4 chances to learn new transmutes or get extra primals. This is at no risk of losing your beginning primal.

So as far as game economics go, there's one good reason for this transmute to exist. And from a game lore perspective, it makes sense that each element can transmute to one other; kinda like a rock/paper/scissors sort of thing.

評論來自 Thottbot

i have already Primal Earth >>> Water, Primal Fire >>> Mana, Primal Mana >>> Fire..

i need really Primal Earth >>> Fire (cuz the Fire >>> Earth = crap!)
is it a discovery transmute?

評論來自 Oranutachi

All these Transmute skills have a 20h cooldown, so it is not worth farming repa for them

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