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Comment by Kinka

Replaces Improved Arcane Missiles in the talent tree. Obvious difference is that this affects Arcane Blast in addition to Missiles.

Comment by hypehuman

I'm going to do a bit of theorycrafting here on this talent. Now that pushback is has been changed, here's how it works. Each attack on a channeled spell will reduce the remaining duration by 25%, for a maximum of two attacks (50% reduction). If I'm correctly interpreting how this talent works, it reduces that amount by 20/40/60/80/100%. So here's the amount of cast time lost per hit as a function of the number of points spent in this talent:

0 points –> 1.25s lost per hit –> 2.5s lost for two hits
1 points –> 1.00s lost per hit –> 2.0s lost for two hits
2 points –> 0.75s lost per hit –> 1.5s lost for two hits
3 points –> 0.50s lost per hit –> 1.0s lost for two hits
4 points –> 0.25s lost per hit –> 0.5s lost for two hits
5 points –> 0.00s lost per hit –> 0.0s lost for two hits

Now I'm going to assume that the bolts from AM come every second, on the second. So if you had a cast time of 2.5 seconds, you would fire two bolts (one at t=1, and one at t=2), leaving an extra 0.5 seconds in which you channel the spell for nothing. So here's how many bolts you would get if you took one hit:

0 points –> 3.75s cast time –> 3 bolts
1 points –> 4.00s cast time –> 4 bolts
2 points –> 4.25s cast time –> 4 bolts
3 points –> 4.50s cast time –> 4 bolts
4 points –> 4.75s cast time –> 4 bolts
5 points –> 5.00s cast time –> 5 bolts

and if you took two hits:

0 points –> 2.5s cast time –> 2 bolts
1 points –> 3.0s cast time –> 3 bolts
2 points –> 3.5s cast time –> 3 bolts
3 points –> 4.0s cast time –> 4 bolts
4 points –> 4.5s cast time –> 4 bolts
5 points –> 5.0s cast time –> 5 bolts

So here's how many extra bolts this talent would give you

Rank 1 –> 1 extra bolts (if hit once), 1 extra bolts (if hit twice)
Rank 2 –> 1 extra bolts (if hit once), 1 extra bolts (if hit twice)
Rank 3 –> 1 extra bolts (if hit once), 2 extra bolts (if hit twice)
Rank 4 –> 1 extra bolts (if hit once), 2 extra bolts (if hit twice)
Rank 5 –> 2 extra bolts (if hit once), 3 extra bolts (if hit twice)

As you can see, there is no difference between rank 3 and rank 4, besides that with rank 4 you WASTE more time channeling the spell after it's already given all the bolts it can. So no endgame spec should have 4/5 points in this talent. Either push it up to 5, or pull it down to 3. The same is true between ranks 1 and 2.

Comment by Darkrainin

Burning Determination Vs. This?

Comment by 160598

With Missile Barrage talent you will be fire 1 missile every 0.5 sec so if you took this talent it will work like hyperhuman says, but notice that you will lost 1.25/2=0.625 per hit up to maximum 1.25 (2 hits), so when you pvp specced this talent is skipped but if you have extra point, 1 point in it will give arcane spec 1 extra missle. Imho for arena build like this is good, cause you don't need Arcane flows in battles that will not be for long and you change two points to extra crit for friend and one extra missle. This build is for arena and something this is for bg (imho). I want to say that 1/5 point in this talent is not bad in arena cause, extra 1k dmg in 0.5 sec can save all game.

Comment by 398789

Note: Doesn't stack with Arcane Instability.

EDIT: Because some people think it's funny to downrate, this is a joke.

Comment by bhorowitz

does this stack with https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=19746?
if a holy paladin is specced into https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=20254, you only need 3 ranks for the 100% cast time reduction. that would be reallu useful in raid settings. nobody would want to put a full 5 points into this, but once the big boss puts out a big AOE, i just lost a tick of your missle barrage proc, or got pushback on your arcane blast. it might not make that much of a difference but it's still good to know.

Comment by Thottbot

IMBA

Comment by Thottbot

LOL i love that

Comment by Thottbot

I'm guessing this is good vs hunters.

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Arcane Stability

Arcane Stability

Talent

Reduces the pushback suffered from damaging attacks while casting Arcane Missiles and Arcane Blast by 100%.

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0 yards (Self)

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Instant

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0 seconds

Effect

Apply Aura: Modifies Pushback Reduction (9)
Value: 100%
PVP Multiplier: 1
Affected Spells:

Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles
Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles
Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles
Arcane Blast	Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles
Arcane Missiles	Arcane Missiles	Arcane Blast
Arcane Blast	Arcane Blast

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