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In my opinion this makes being Feral Tank boring. I've been able to keep up to 8-10 targets multiple times in situations which requires it (using CC is for weaks :)) with Swipe just hitting 3 targets, and still having DPS going over 1,5k to the main target. This is in heroics, of course. We'll see with excitement that what this will bring forward. Maybe druids will now go and solotank Mt. Hyjal waves.

- Lestuniem of Moonglade -

Комментарий от junkseer

Well, while I do agree that this change makes feral tanking waay easier, it also gives ferals a great AoE leveling tool. Considering our armor and hp it will greatly increase leveling/soloing rate.

Комментарий от 235419

I was on my druid messing around with this and Warcheif Blessing.

Needless to say, seeing a level 16 druid taking on 8 mobs and absolutely raping them made my day.

(Warcheifs Blessings gives 150 haste rating, which is 130% attack speed at level 16, giving my bear form a 0.98 attack speed. Or i think it was 0.93...buff wore off because I died) :(

Комментарий от EMan32x

In patch 3.0.4, this ability will be split into Swipe (Bear) and Swipe (Cat). Quite possibly it will be named Swipe - Bear and Swipe - Feline in keeping with the new Mangle names, this remains to be seen.

Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12891294995&sid=1

Комментарий от 281866

As of 12/16/08, Swipe now generates 50% more threat.

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/26/13392294985-ghostcrawler-swipe-is-not-fun.html

This is an interesting solution to the Bear AoE tanking conundrum. Bears will still have to manage mob clusters into a cone for our AoE Swipe spam, but now that Swipe gives a lot more bang for the buck it should be a whole lot easier to glue those mobs to us once we've collected them.

Комментарий от Gylin

I just tested out the Mongoose enchant with the new swipe changes. I was able to keep the proce effect up over 75% of the the time when tanking 3 or mobs. Very nice can't wait to see how it works with the new cat swipe.

Комментарий от cxnecroxc

i have found that right as you are nose to nose with mobs and using "ZOMG Rage Machine" macro:
/cast Barkskin
/cast Enrage
*really nice since Barkskin doesnt trigger the GCD :P*
then go to town swipeing is really nice u can blast out many swipes fast as hell plus barkskin helps to negate the armor lost by enrage :P

Sum Duridz is Bare, Sum Durids is Kat, Sum Duridz is a Big Chick'n

Комментарий от daveyp

Wicked news from the latest PTR patch notes:

Swipe: The Bear Form and Dire Bear Form version of this ability no longer has a targeting requirement and hits targets behind the druid and to the sides.

Imbear!

Комментарий от 235419

After testing this I've come to two conclusions.

1) IT'S AWESOME.
2) It isn't affected by AoE damage caps.

Yes. Seriously, KITTY swipe may be affected by AoE damage caps but not BEAR swipe, whether this is just a bug or not still eludes me but I'm loving pulling the whole of Shadowfang Keep and seeing 1k crits flying on every mob.

Комментарий от Ardencroft

Hi swipe! I'm Lifeward! I have no internal cooldown, and a roughly 12% proc rate! i heal you when youre swiping! i heal you to full! we should be friends! we should stand together and lol at the paladin thats aoe grinding on a mere 25 mobs at once. we should show him up by grabbing entire instances! and not just the pussy ones like sfk, swipe! you and i should go and grab all of ramparts, we should solo waves in hyjal! were gonna be best friends forever, swipe. i just know it.

Комментарий от deathtyriel

anyone know how much bonus it get from the attack power?

Комментарий от 98874

Gains 1/15 of your Attack Power before Talents, almost exactly 10% of Attack power after Master Shapeshifter, Naturalist, and Feral Instinct.

Комментарий от TMWNN

I am a longtime paladin tank who recently got a feral druid to 80.

While paladin tanks still have the edge in up-front threat, Swipe makes bears the best possible AoE tanks for when mobility is important. Three specific situations come to mind:

The last gauntlet in Culling of Stratholme. Move backwards, drag enemies along with Swipe, and have your party follow.
Onyxia's whelps. In 10-man it's likely that there will only be one whelp tank while the other is dealing with the elites, and even with three tanks in 25 this may be the case if Onyxia has just landed. With Swipe it's possible for a bear to start at one of the caves' mouths, grab whelps, and drag them to the other cave and anywhere else, continuously picking up new whelps.
Razorscale's adds. Grab the ones on your assigned side and drag them to the middle so they can be AoEed down.

Комментарий от 179858

Does swipe do less dmg to more mobs? Been boosting a friend in stratholme and i only crit 200 with swipte where i should crit 1200, but only when i have like 100+ mobs on me.

Комментарий от 532753

Many druid tanks think that they'll hold aggro on everything if they swipe a lot but that isn't the case at all. For enough targets swipe might deal the most damage per global cooldown but that doesn't make it a bear's best threat skill. You can't rely on dps alone to hold aggro.

A bear's high threat abilities are maul and lacerate. Even in heroics with many large groups (4+ mobs) most of your damage will still come from maul (which means most of your threat is also from maul). Mangle and Lacerate both increase the damage (and therefore the threat) done by maul. If you're tanking 3 or 4 mobs you should always mangle when you can (you'll generate more threat and do more damage). Lacerate increases the damage done by maul, so replacing a swipe with a lacerate (provided the target doesn't already have the lacerate debuff) will probably increase your dps. Considering that lacerate is a high threat ability this will certainly increase your threat.

Swipe is still very useful. It's great for gathering mobs and it's great at the start of a fight so that weird things don't pull aggro (a warrior's bloodrage, HoTs leftover from the last pull, etc.), but keep in mind that it doesn't generate much threat.

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