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In my experience, I've seen that shadow priests tend to go OOM or "out of mana" a lot. So any ability which will increase mana regeneration is a god sent. The fact this ability also gives mana back to your part members can help any caster DPS stay in longer in any fight as well. And the damage is always nice as most shadow priest's tend to PVP. Which means faster killing. 8^D

Комментарий от 1076

IMO this is a total PVE talent point. Yes it is a nice DoT but in PVP it is all about burst damage. I have played with this talent in PVP and is not very useful in battleground now for world PVP then maybe yes but not for BGs.

Now for PVE this is one of the best things Blizz has done for Shadow priest to restore yur mana and the mana of your group is just amazing.

Комментарий от skitzosmeagol

Its good in pve if you use it sparingly dont use it every guy maybe every other to maintain mana so your not oom 24/7 Thisis also incredible in raids :D + mana ftw

Комментарий от Kaoswarr

This spell is extremely good spell to use in PvE.
It saves ALOT of money on mana pots for the whole raid, and it's uber dps.
PvP wise, it could be well used. In a PuG, i would see it being rather useless. But in a very organized Premade, this could prove to be extremely helpfull.

Just my 2c

Комментарий от TheOrangeGuy

In my own experiance this pawns in most cases. Outdoor PvP is really fun since this dot, SW: Pain and Devouring Plague kills about anything. And as pointed out before that burstdmg is important in PvP, dots helps out to the SW: Death level there you can Mind Blast + SW: Death with an certain kill (so you don't have to absorb those nasty 1.6k crits yourself). I'm just at lvl 66 so if any higher lvl wanna contribute, go ahead.
btw.. what idiot made that safety code anyhow? do they expect everyone have a danish keyboard 'just in case'?

Комментарий от 47175

This spell is great for PvP. 1.5sec cast time isn't all that long really compared to other spells and the mana return combined with shadowfiend is great.

Комментарий от Joetest

Vampiric Touch is the very reason for the recent increase in Shadow Priest raid viablility. It's almost required for most guilds to have at least 1 Shadow Priest in a group of mages to give them mana, and therefore increase their overall DPS. This ability has helped flesh out the Shadow Priests role, which is an amazing support class, which adds efficiency to any mana user they are grouped with.

Note you can apply the lowest rank of Vampiric Touch and still get the 5% mana from your overall shadow damage.

Комментарий от camarouge

Here's a simple equation to find out how much mana your shadow priest returns to your group.

We have to assume Vampiric Touch is on every mob the shadow priest attacks.

Anyway, 5% of all shadow damage(which is the only kind of damage a shadow priest will deal) goes directly to mana. So, if your shadow priest is at 400 consistent DPS, 5% of that is 20, so your priest is returning 20 mana every second back to your group, or 100 every 5.

If you can figure out how much DPS your shadow priest is dealing, you can easily also figure out how much mana they are returning per second just for having them in the party by multiplying their DPS by .05.

Комментарий от 90305

has anybody noticed rank 3 has only 50 damage more then rank 2, a lvl 60 spell? basically it means you do 5 dmg more a lvl...

Комментарий от 118016

Does Vampiric Touch, only affect the group the character is in? Or does it affect the entire Raid?

Комментарий от 43740

Comparing group mana return talents, spells, and enchants:

mana tide / mana spring totems = 30 yds (assume 1/1 totemic mastery)

spellsurge = 30 yds

Vamp Touch = inside same zone?

I haven't experienced a range limit on VT yet. Is there one?

Комментарий от 115537

To the curious:

You must deal 8500 shadow damage, or maintain 567 DPS, within 15 seconds to recoup the cost of casting VT.

Комментарий от 42603

Nerfed in the current beta of wotlk to 2% shadow damage returned as mana.

This is a big but necessary nerf to the shadow spec to allow it becoming more powerfull as a single DPS without making it overwhelmingly overpowered in wotlk. Because currently in endgame raids the 2-3 shadow priests do around 25% less damage than another class and are brought in purely as a mana battery to help the casters' DPS/HPS.

Amusingly enough, their "weak" damage but mana return to the party leads to the party doing even more damage, and them falling even more beyond xD

Комментарий от 154460

and your solution to the problem is making the sp even less viable for endgame content?thus limiting their usefulness even more and not even be accepted into raids?very well thought out thx a lot.

Комментарий от Murdof

Now recieves 40% (before 3.0.3 20%) of your spellpower per tick.

Комментарий от Thottbot

It might be alittle bit lame thus this only get's that litte better in 10 levels.. However this spell is the best spell, imo, for a shadow priest (if you're raiding and not some PvP guy).
It allows me to keep fighting for alot longer time, and it gives a nice amount of mana to my party.

If you would like to test this spell at it's best, gather a feral druid and 4 shadow priests. No boss is hard now.

Комментарий от Thottbot

The point of this spell isn't damage (LOL... but I have to say that if you have good +spell dmg gear, it ticks nicely), it's mana regen. I always do shadow in raids and with VT I add about 20-25 mana per pain/VT/mind flay tick and about 100-125 per Mindblast/Death. Plus the VE+VT gives paladin healers amazing mana regen. Very very nice spell.

Комментарий от Thottbot

i would totaly love it even more if this was instant cast.

but i guess they made it 1.5sec to avoid global cooldown in PVE so u can start dps straight away and get the most mana back out of it. who knows

Комментарий от Thottbot

omg people, i cant belive u guys think this is a bad talent! think about it, cast Vamp. embrace, Vamp. toch, SW:P, mid blast. there u go, u just healed your party by alot! plus, the shadow form bonus helps too. whoever thinks this is a bad talent shoulnd be in the shadow spec!although, making this an instant cast would be nice......

Комментарий от Thottbot

in my opinion, this spell is just focused mind with a couple bonuses. it adds a shadow weaving and/or a misery with a DoT component. this spell isn't meant to single-handedly kill T6 warriors so it can't be used like that.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Using this with the Draenei's mana heal at level 20 spell, makes a super gain of mana to all nearby friends. You may lose alot of mana yourself, but it might keep the party alive enough to kill whatever might have killed you.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Imp. Vamp Embrace: Increaces the amount healed by Vampiric Embrace by 5%/10%, and increaces the amount of mana gained from Vampiric Touch by 3%/5%

*drools*
if only...

Комментарий от Thottbot

Despite what you all say and think, this spell is without a doubt one of the most useful in the game. It's another DoT which does about 2k over time, 5% of that being 100 mana, which when combined with SW:P (3.2k total, 5% into mana being 160) does 5.2k ALONE, no mind flays AT ALL. Throw mind flays into the equation with 420~ a second (1.26k dmg, 23+ mana a tick, 66+ mana total) done for 15 seconds say, that's almost 6.3k... + VT and SW:P = around 11.5k damage, 5% of that into mana = 750 for your whole party.... That's another 2-3 heals right there, for one round of about 15 seconds. Do not underestimate VT.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Yes. Warlock is caster king of damage meter and rogue will be the king of melee, but they dont bring so much bonuses to other classes that shadow priest or shaman. I u bring raid nothing but tanks + healers and only locks their damage drops so much. Shadow priest + shaman and 3* any caster will outdamage + out last 5warlock any day and night. this spell rock and is almoust(dont forget misery and shadow vieving) only reason why priests isnt just another heal bot like paladins in nowadays. Its all about group composition.

Комментарий от Thottbot

dmg-recycler. this spell is great. it gives a new perspective in pve raiding and groups.as you need ca. 8k dmg until you regain the spent mana using it alone, additional group members are needed to bigtime gain from its output.it generates mana out of dmg so it has also a supporting quality.

also its a ca. 2k dmg dot -the highly wanted 2nd dot for priests.

i´m a pve specced 11/0/50 sp and i play along this spells CD in every boss, elite, whatever manaintensive fight. you can fit 2 sw:d into its durationtime if you watch the cooldowns.

gained mana does not produce aggro, unlike vampiric embrace, so this spell is increasing your output without any further effect on mobs.

in a raid it is a tough choice, whether to be in a meleegrp for VE benefit or in castergrp for VT benefit. SPs rock, always did, ever will.

Комментарий от Thottbot

this plus shadowfrost set will make sure u never have to use a pot again ;-)

Комментарий от Thottbot

Excellent spell - with this + VE and shadow weaving - shadow priests are one of the most helpful raid members in any group. Any warlock or healer who does not see or realize the value or one is a fool - so what if a mage or lock does slightly more dps - the overall mana/health/extra dps gain from a shadow priest is a hundred times more valuable then a small amount of extra damage.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Has anyone seen confirmation that the mana regen does NOT add aggro to the table?

As a modestly geared kara/gruul raiding spriest, I typically will not put VE on in trash fighting, and will wait until well into a boss fight to throw it on to make sure my aggro is in check.

I'm certainly not going to stop using VT, but it'd be a nice peace of mind to know this wasn't drawing me extra aggro.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Keep this spell up at all times possible as a shadow priest.
Generates low agro, and you will almost always do enough damage during the duration of this spell to net some mana gained. Just like VE, gets even better as your gear does.

Комментарий от Thottbot

With around +800 spell damage, expect about 150 mana/5 with just cyling your dots and mind flay. I'm too lazy to do the math once you start throwing in mind blasts and SW:D at every cooldown.

Комментарий от Thottbot

well it was too good to be true with us shadowpriest being the new mana-batteries WITHOUT any downsides to the matter ;-)

manangain produces 0,5 points of aggro per gained manapoint.

check wowwiki.com it is stated at several points and it makes sense, as EVERY powergain (heal, buff, potion...) does create threat.so why not mana?

so this is why endgame raid-skilled shadowpriests seldom use VT (the hp regger) because their no. 1 prio is regging mana - so it´s shadowpriest in castergroup (not in melee grp) creating LOTS of threat by shd-dmg + mana-reg already.

still VT is my no.1 spell in pve raiding and it adds significantly to the dealt dmg.
VT
SW:P
SW:D
MB
MF

sp ftw. troll ftw. yaa maan

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