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It's a good talent if, and only if, you have five free points in your build that can't be better spent. 5% increase on frost spells is certainly neat (ignoring the 5% hit chance reduction for the sake of group PvE), but for five points to get the full effect, it's pretty pricey. That being said, for very, very deep frost mages (which is an incredibly viable build) there aren't that many places in the other trees to dump five (or slightly more) points that'll add up to a 5% damage increase.

Комментарий от 275414

Its a good talent if you are going deep frost for PvE, and a great one if going deep frost for PvP. Only I'm pretty sure 'ranged' attacks does not include spell types, though I really wish it would and I think it should. Though it is rather expensive and points in it can be sacrificed for elsewhere in either a PvP or PvE build. And I'm almost positive that piercing ice and this are multiplicative, so its 1.06*1.05 or an 11.3% increase in frost damage...not much more than additive but its how it works.

Комментарий от RogueLeader

The best use I've found for this talent is by far throwing off rogues and druid stealth openers in PVP; and while that's always a riot when they do miss an opener, the other 95% of the time (give or take) they'll still hit you anyway. For 5 points this deep in the extremely bloated Frost tree, you'll get more damage and dps from going into Arcane for Torment the Weak, especially since this doesn't affect your water elementals. For 5 points this deep in Frost, there is plenty better for damage that's not much higher up in the tree, like Brain Freeze and Enduring Winter.

Sadly, this gets the thumbs down.

Комментарий от 124927

This is a pvp skill that needs to be revamped since nobody with arena rating over 1800 is likely to have under 6-8% hit (often from using pve items for T9 set bonuses) to nullify night elf and certain class's abilities which are geared to reducing the chance of being hit. I totally agree that for the most part, even the +5% damage bonus still makes this a terribly weak talent. A much better idea would be to make it a 3 point talent with reductions at 2/4/6% to hit and increased damage for each point. Actually, frost mage damage is remarkably weak and is actually the weakest of the dps classes due to their enhanced cc and defensive abilities, so a minor buff would be a good idea.

Комментарий от 617932

i have found it usefull only for pve so far.

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Apply Aura: Mod Attacker Melee Hit Chance - %
Значение: -5%
PvP-мультипликатор: 1
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Конус холода	Конус холода	Конус холода
Конус холода	Конус холода	Конус холода
Конус холода	Конус холода	Ледяная преграда
Ледяная преграда	Ледяная преграда	Ледяная преграда
Ледяная преграда	Ледяная преграда	Ледяная преграда
Ледяная преграда

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Apply Aura: Mod Attacker Ranged Hit Chance - %
Значение: -5%
PvP-мультипликатор: 1
Влияет на заклинания:

Конус холода	Кольцо льда	Кольцо льда
Кольцо льда	Конус холода	Конус холода
Конус холода	Конус холода	Кольцо льда
Конус холода	Кольцо льда	Кольцо льда
Конус холода	Конус холода

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Apply Aura: Mod Damage Done % (Лед)
Значение: 5%
PvP-мультипликатор: 1

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