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I see how this could be useful in PvP not so sure about PvE but here it goes. I would cast it on a mage or any spell casting class with there mana going down they wont no it till its to late they will use about 3/4 of the mana and the sting will drain the rest making them east for attack. =) Or you could cast it on a priest so they will brun up they heals faster.

Lvl 30 hunter

Комментарий от drame

while the highest rank so far i pretty weak this is freaking awesome in bgs to get alot of paladins, locks, priests, etc down
also 100% the best to remove stupid healers from the oppent
;-D

Комментарий от aetrcsom

I just can't figure out how this is a useful ability. It only works on mage or warlock opponents and that means maybe PVP but PVE has no use for it.....

Комментарий от ironballs16

I'm curious as to how this works... is it completely ineffective/non-castable if the target has less than 68% of their max mana? Or you can only use this 2x? Or what?

Комментарий от purus

Since when is this a poison? Can it be abolished like other poisons?

Комментарий от gizmovision

for 3.1.0 patch:
Viper Sting re-designed: Stings the target, draining 4% of mana over 8 sec (up to a maximum of 8% of the caster's maximum mana), and energizing the Hunter equal to 300% of the amount drained. Only one Sting per Hunter can be active on any one target. So with Chimera Shot you can also re- Mana up, quite quick...( I gotta look at the bonus from a raid stand point not PvP, as its useless for that role, has been since the last change.)

Комментарий от 98874

on a raid boss, A Single Viper Sting now regenerates 24% of your Mana over 8 seconds.

Although the Mana Destruction effect is basically useless now. 4% over 8 seconds means it would take 200 seconds(3min 20sec) to burn what a Priest could do in 10 seconds.

Комментарий от 337924

Blizzard should change this into something like:

Viper Sting
Stings the target, draining 4% of mana over 8 sec (down to a minimum of 4% of the caster’s maximum mana, and up to a maximum of 8% of the caster's maximum mana), and energizing the Hunter equal to 300% of the amount drained. Only one Sting per Hunter can be active on any one target.

Or perhaps the minimum could be 25% of the fixed amount from before this spell was changed to percent based (only 25% due to the change in the spells mechanics, aka the energizing).

Комментарий от Longtooth

All Drain effects where buffed so that they are equal to the hunter's Viper sting
Both the Priest and Warlock spells have secondary effects (dmg or refill)
Yet now they are much more powerfull that our sting while ours was nerfed BECAUSE of the secondary effect :)
Enjoy!

Mana Burn = Burns 13 % to 26% and deals 50% into DMG (3 sec cast, No CD)
Mana Drain = Transfers 15% to 30% of the targets mana to the caster (5 sec Chaneling, No CD)
Viper Sting = Burns 4% to 8% and refunds 300% of the mana drained to the caster. (Instant Cast Sting, 15 sec CD)
==== What Viper Sting Can or Should be
Viper Sting = Burns 12% to 24% and refunds 100% of the mana drained to the caster. CD lowered

Комментарий от 50125

No offense, but qq some more.

A priest/lock must stay los of the target. They can't move while casting or channeling so if the target is popping in and out of los then no mana burning occurs.

While a hunter just needs one intance of los. All abilities have strengths and weaknesses. If you are a warlock you are going to be careful about casting drain mana with a rogue/warrior/dk on you because you don't want your whole shadow school locked out.

Granted there is no secondary effect, unless you consider you getting to use all of your other normal abilities. If a preist steps up to mana burn the healer then they are typically not healing. A warlock draining mana isn't bursting out a shadow bolt for a second haunt effect or reapplying dots. A hunter is back to doing full dmg minus the bonus from serpent sting right after the instant cast.

Keep in mind with the changes to abolish poison and cleansing totem that this ability received a decent boost. If your cleansing effect ticks right before the viper sting is applied then you will have 3 seconds out of 8 seconds before it has a chance of being dispelled. And if it gets resisted or removes a different poison then the viper sting is up for almost the full duration.

Комментарий от lizbliz

Actually, channels can not be LoS'd. Blizzard decided that because they make the player pay all the mana up front for the channel spell that they will continue to have their effect. That's why a mage can still keep hitting your with his channel damage spell even if you step behind a pillar. the 3 second cast can however be LoS'd.

But blizzard should have just admitted to us that they didn't think we should have a pvp drain, because they obviously feel that way. I mean, they both nerfed the sting because one single class couldn't just spam despell it and also gave that class the ability to despell it in the same patch? Pretty obvious move there.

It would have been nice if they could have done something similar to wyvren sting where it has a large difference between the pvp and pve workings. They should have left the sting the way it was in pvp and changed how it worked in pve. They have shown us they have the ability to do such a thing.

When you look at how incredible those other two mana drains abilities are if they were instant on top of being spamable it would break the game in half. I mean, 3 second for a 30%-60% mana swing? That will have a huge impact on any fight where the two dps can't get through either of the opponent's healer's heals. All of a sudden one team's healer mana is thousand below the others?

The real issue here is that viper sting was perfectly balanced considering it was easily dispellable by all but one healing class and needs 8 seconds to reach it's full effect without it being dispelled....even back when it just drained a set amount (which was a rather good chunk (almost 40-45% of most raid gear healer's mana if talented by a MM). And when they changed it to a flat % of the target's mana with a limit based on the hunter's mana.....even though that was a gut punch in an of itself it was something that could be dealt with and I moved on. This new sting however is so useless in pvp...well look at it like this:

If a mana drain costs more to be dispelled by the healer than to just let it tick it's full duration....I would say it's nerfed to oblivion that really has become useless.

But at least now we will never, ever, ever run out of mana against a caster boss. I guess blizzard saw that as a fair trade.

Комментарий от 399176

Im wondering how Improves stings affects this. It says it improves it by 30% but 30% of what exactly?

Комментарий от 422867

i actually find it 2 b useful (at least from when i got it till the level i am - 42) cos in dungeons i can use it on casters, the 1st tick usually refunds the mana cost of the spell (+ a little extra) from then on it just refunds the arcane shots. also would b nice in leveling if it didnt break freezing trap, would b nice 2 freeze 1 caster while u fight the rest of the mob while gettin ur mana back from the frozen caster. also, is it a bug that it breaks freezing trap? cos it should only break on dmg not mana loss...

Комментарий от Atsori

Is it me, or is it that when i watched for the mana return, i dont get any...

Комментарий от 333732

this is very good spell to have in your arsenal. It recovers all mana lost casting within the first second and if your running low on drinks and are surrounded by guys who have mana as their energy source, youll get back to full in just 5 or 6 fights.

also useful if you get swarmed with low mana. if you can get Viper on one then you can recover mana that you can use for Explosive Trap and Volley.

i would highly recommend this spell. Also useful on battle grounds where drinks are too time consuming to be an effective recovery system.

its kinda bogus though considering Preists and Warlocks have much more effective and faster mana recovery spells. just cuz of this fact this spell is nullifed. i still think its nice to have around even so; saved my butt many times before when i was caught without drinks, potions, or Intellect elixars. also extraordinarily useful in dungeons and raids cuz the guys are elite with 4-5 times as much mana as a Player of their lvl. 300% back... man!

Комментарий от Garrett

Just for a referance.

For easy referance let's assume a Hunter has 12000 mana and is using Viper Sting on multiple targets through out Northrend. The amount of mana drained and rewarded can be easily linked with the amount of mana the target has by using this table.

Please note the cut-off point of 960 drained and 2880 rewarded. This is because 8% of 12000 (the Hunter's mana) is 960. This means that even if you fight a boss with 19,000,000,000 mana, you'll still be capped at draining 8% of your mana.

Target's full mana | Amount of mana drained | Mana rewarded

2000 60 180
4000 120 360
6000 180 540
8000 240 720
10000 300 900
12000 360 1080
14000 420 1260
16000 480 1440
20000 600 1800
22000 660 1980
24000 720 2160
26000 780 2340
28000 840 2520
30000 900 2700
32000 960 * 8% of hunters mana 2880
34000 960 2880
36000 960 2880
38000 960 2880
40000 960 2880
~~~~
19,000,000,000 960 2880

Комментарий от 140772

I havent find this usable anywhere (yet), If I go low mana, I change aspect to viper, getting manas full in one fight. Also for trying to drain manas of anyone in pvp this aint the way to do it. As Scorpid disarms & Serpent does buch of damage when shooting a Chimera,, Why would I use this one anywhere? Or better, where is Viper Sting more usable than Scorpid & Serpent?

Комментарий от 559633

i never use this spell.....this is completely useless for me
i don't think other opposition players in PVP won't have any problem with this sting...i mean look at this spell...it drains only upto 8% which is nothing compared to huge mana pools of casters...also 8s is very long time in fast action PVP.

Even in raids in PvE i don't use this spell. As a dps i always have to keep up my damage so i keep my serpent sting up rather than this

Комментарий от Frogger

Someone mentioned in raid boss this is useless and he switches to aspect of viper. I have to disgree with him. If you switch to aspect of viper you will lose too much dps. Against bosses like lady deathwhisper who has 3 million mana this will ensure you will not run out of mana.

In arena if you have healer this can be preists worse enemy. While they cast mana burn on your healer and this active you will see their mana disapear in less than a minute. Against other healer classes this is useless as they can cure it and spend much less mana doing so. however i wont discourage using it on them sometimes as test. Some healers are too lazy to cleanse this. In arena if you really wanna do some mana drains on healers specialy paladin healers tranq shot is your best friend. Paladins buffs cost so much mana and gladiator hand armour reduce CD of you're tranq shot by 2 sec.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I'll be damned if it's never the right target?

EVERY TIME I hit this spell to zap a baddie it says it can't target that one..?

Whats the story on this spell... anyone know?

Thanks

Комментарий от Allakhazam

ur forgeting the mages, use this in duel and u just see the mage's mana coming out like this....

Комментарий от slythwolf

Has anyone else noticed this seeming to do literally nothing?

I cast it on mobs with a mana bar, and their mana bar does not drop at all. Looking at the numbers, my mana pool is decently larger than theirs, so it's not that the drop is unnoticeable because 8% of my max is nothing to them, or something.

I also do not seem to be gaining any mana from it.

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8% от базовой мана	Радиус действия: 35 м

Восстановление: 15 сек

Вытягивает 4% маны цели в течение 8 sec. (не более 8% от максимального запаса) и восполняет 300% похищенной маны охотнику. На каждую цель может действовать только один "Укус" каждого охотника единовременно.

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Укус гадюки	Яд

Похищение 1% маны раз в 2 сек., восстановление 300% похищенной маны охотнику.
Осталось: 8 сек.

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8 сек.

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Тип рассеивания

Яд

Категория ГКД

Обычный

Стоимость

8% от базовой мана

Радиус действия

35 метров (Hunter)

Время прочтения

Мгновенное действие

Восстановление

15 сек.

ГКД

1.5 сек.

Эффект

Apply Aura: Periodically Drain Power (Мана)
Значение: 1 каждый 2 сек.
PvP-мультипликатор: 1

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Необходимо оружие дальнего боя
Не может быть использовано в облике друида
[Do Not Reset Combat Timers]
[Taps immediately]

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