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Deterrence - saving hunter lives since 2005

Kaz'rogal's Melee hits Dudevon for 10337
Dudevon's Melee hits Kaz'rogal for 1060
Dudevon gains Deterrence
Kaz'rogal's Malevolent Cleave dodged by Dudevon
Kaz'rogal's Melee dodged by Dudevon
Kaz'rogal's Melee misses Dudevon
Kaz'rogal's Melee dodged by Dudevon
Kaz'rogal's Melee dodged by Dudevon
Kaz'rogal's Malevolent Cleave dodged by Dudevon
The Main Tank took aggro back after a few seconds and we killed the boss.

Комментарий от Yaminho

hello Cloak of Shadows! what a incredible buff for hunter's this and Disengage changes made my day

Комментарий от 202602

Any idea what level it is trainable at? I have a lvl 29 0/3/17 hunter twink and it's of special interest to me.

Комментарий от 46977

Given that Hunters have extremely high dodge from high Agility

To bad Hunter's dodge from agi is getting an extreme nurf!
Agi will now give about 85% less dodge than it does currently.

Комментарий от 232121

Wowhead is now showing this as a level 60 spell. You'll also want to pick up the new glyph that modifies this. Strange thing is, the glyph is usable at level 20 even though you can't get this spell until level 60. Anybody know why there is this difference?

Комментарий от 165587

new animation as if patch 3.0 when the skill is activated. a clock icon appears above the character when used.

Комментарий от 193821

Can Somebody tell me if Deterrence scale my pet's avoidance or is it just the hunter?

Комментарий от Aevitas

I don't know if it's been mentioned here, but deterrence actually levels up your weapon skill after 3.0.8.

Комментарий от kaze950

Will this reflect abilities in PvE that can be, say, spell reflected by a warrior?

Like the abilities used by https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/npc=29316

Комментарий от 329337

Does this work against blind?

Комментарий от Blasterion

Works against Flame Walls of Sartharion and laser barrage

Комментарий от 310456

Something like a mage's Ice Block, with the difference that while deterrence is active you can move, but during Ice Block you cannot. Really useful when carrying flags in Warsong Gulch. Also, Ice Block protects you more, because it protects you from all attacks. Deterrence only protects you from melee attacks and spells that are done from your FRONT. Any attacks made from the rear, holy attacks or ranged attacks will not be dodged.

Комментарий от Knellox

So let me get this right:

Hunters could dual wield weapons that could have Blade Ward on each of them, possibly stacked to 5 stacks at 1000 parry rating from each weapon, which could then be doubled by Deterrence for 2,000 parry rating from each weapon for 5 seconds, at which point their next parry would hit the attacker with both of the maxxed out blade ward buffs for 3-4,000 damage each.

8,000 damage parry melee Huntard for the win.

I may very well make a hunter

Then again, Maybe I'm just blowing smoke.

Комментарий от 315177

This skill is usaully used to deflect powerful spells that usually have a long cooldown. For example Lava Burst - deflecting it when fighting an elemental shaman most of the time means victory for you. The only problem is, that Lava Burst has an 8 second cooldown, and Deterrence on you lasts for 5 seconds, that means, if you deflect Lava Burst just after pressing (or clicking) deterrence, after it's effect expires, you'll only have 3 seconds + Lava Burst casting time to do some damage to him before he launches another boulder of Lava at you. But wait, there's one easy way to make it as efficient as it can be, and it's not clicking on the deterrence's buff icon in the top right corner. Just make a macro of every shot/sting you have, in which you'll type to show the shot's/sting's tooltip and icon, the command to shoot your shot/sting, and, before that, a command to cancel deterrence's effect (/cancelaura deterrence). Put those macros in your action bars instead of the original shot/sting icons. Example of a macro:

#Showtooltip Aimed Shot
/cancelaura deterrence
/cast Aimed Shot

Just after deflecting a powerful spell or spell combo like Lava Burst + Chain Lightning, simply start shooting at him by clicking a shot/sting (you will be able to do that before the effect expires (for the one's who did not realised that yet :D)) that you would use after deterrence's effect expires. Just be careful and don't hit a shot/sting button before the effect expires if you still need it, that means, when you use deterrence, don't hit any macro with the command to cancel deterrence until you don't need it's effect anymore. If you are used to do that too much, you can create a macro with only a command to /cancelaura deterrence and, when you need it, use it. This is also not a bad choice if you can allow yourself some time to do that.

EDIT: Read all the comments, and want to answer a question. Yes, this DOES deflect warrior charge/intercept stuns, just like ANY other attack or spell, except for those which cannot be dodged/blocked/parried (like Overpower), and will not deflect or remove the DoT's or their ticks which are already on you, but will not allow to pop up some new until it's effect expires.

Other edits: Fixed some typos.
Enjoy ;)

Комментарий от Thottbot

hehe...i have this ok...i tryed it on a warrior in a duel...he just overpowered me pver 10 times...

Комментарий от Thottbot

well...i would rather get hit by a overpower insteed
of a execute....

Комментарий от Thottbot

Not only does this allow any hunter to run away for some ranged shots, this talent skill requires no mana!

Комментарий от Thottbot

for tanking something off a squishie or triggering a counterattack

Комментарий от Thottbot

i screwed up a rogue in a melee duel with this once

Комментарий от Thottbot

does this stack on top of aspect of the monkey?

Комментарий от Thottbot

As a Night Elf Hunter, you can get about 60%+ Dodge and 30%+ Parry with a 20%+ miss chance on you with this macro i just created... (It requires one or two quests to be completed, and a trinket)
Well i just looked it up, it seems as Elune's Grace seems to be a Priest only skill, but for some reason my hunter has it.

with

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=25787/подвеска-проворства
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=19263/сдерживание
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=2651 <-- If it works for you

If not, you will miss out on the 20% miss, but it's still great

#showtooltip
/cast Deterrence
/cast Elune's Grace
/use Charm of Alacrity
/cast Aspect of the Monkey

<-- from the quest https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=9351/дикие-демоны-бездны

It only requires level 58 to use, and I'm a marksman hunter myself, i just got 16 points into Survival and i'm stopping there. Just got deterrence and when I fight rogues, or any other fast hitting melee class, tap this on and Trap/Wing Clip/Scatter Shot/Wyvern Sting, and take your distance back.

During this you should have quite a few hits on you, with my gear (i'm level 68 with half-decent gear, but all attack power/stam based stuff, with 8.5k hp). I have 59.8% dodge, 30.5% parry and a nice 20% miss.

Quite a nice thing against a Rogue, i have to say.

Комментарий от Thottbot

lol....... this is hardly usefull against a rogue, if you fighting a decent rogue they are gonna be hitting you from behind (dont even say that some rogues dont backstab cause thats not what im talking about) when you are hit from behind your parry and block chance are reduced to 0 and you dodge is ruduced to 1/5 of usual. now dont say that the hunter will be able to somehow get the rogue in front of em then us cause the rogue will stunlock then get behind again...... this only applys if your fighting a halfway decent rogue....

Комментарий от Thottbot

This is not a specc anymore!

Комментарий от Thottbot

Practicly makes you immune against spells and attacks that come infront of you.

Комментарий от Thottbot

What is this really useful for though? I mean, yeah it's great to have 5 seconds of almost invincibility, but if you can't attack what good are the 5 seconds?

Комментарий от Thottbot

Does anybody know how to dispel deterrence once it is active i have the same problem when i get aggro, when my FD is on CD and i want to use deterrence until the mob gets taunted off me and it gets took off rather quick and am stuck there trying to go through all of my buffs and try to dispel it and sometimes i dispel one of my buffs.

Комментарий от Thottbot

i used deterrence and got a skill in daggers :D

Комментарий от Thottbot

I really wish I could simply attack with it. It does me no good if they can still sidestep and kick me in the face while I sit there with my traps on CD and unable to move (that's when I use it as a last chance) Atleast give us 50% dmg like a paladin.. I really wish I could just take a step back and concussive shot

Комментарий от Thottbot

In 3.2 this is going to work even if the spell/attack comes from behind.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Hunters are currently performing poorley in arenas, due to an inability to break open up distance with melee classes in time to survive, blizz are planning to give us a boost by improving deterrence even more! In 3.2 we will be able to use deterence to block spells as well as melee and best of all, it will now work behind aswell! Interestingly, deterrence is one of the few hunter abilities that isn't subject to the global cool down (1.5 second cool down after any cast).

So, I'm thinking of using this ability as the main feature of a sort of emergency "anti-rogue" cast sequence for PvP when 3.2 comes out. It should also work well against the other short range classes like warriors/DKs/Pallys

Something like:

Target nearest enemy, cast deterrence, lay freezing trap (if it doesnt count as attacking), cast hunters mark (rogues hate being marked, stops them stealthing!), then i can manually follow that up with several options like;

1. disengage + scatter shot or wyvern sting to open up distance and then stun the target long enough to give myself better odds, maybe pop a health pot, attack and concussion shot etc.

2. A melee counterattack (surv hunters which are the standard at the moment do about twice as much melee dps, although its still quite weak)

I'm going to experiment with different combinations but the potential for this ability is there as long as melee classes can't just power through it. With track hidden on in the arena this could make a big difference against rogues, which at the moment are virtually impossible to stop even if u detect them because they've got sap and a couple of DoTs on you before you've even been able to turn to face them.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Note: This parries only auto-attacks and deflects direct damage spells.

This does NOT affect damage over time or area of effect attacks.

Комментарий от Thottbot

This is a joke in WSG NOw.

Double deterrence hunter can take the flag and get away with it by using deterrence+cooldown reset+deterrence at the right moment. If he does this mid-field there is nothing you can do to catch him anymore. Should be nerfed asap by blizz as paladins drop their flag when they become immune, as do mages with their ice blocks.

Even if there is 1 melee nearby hunter can use immobilization trap or any similar effect to get rid of him and assure a 10 seconds of practical immunity to everything.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Usually when i use this move, its when a rogue or warrior/pally attack. But that isn't the only time. When they get in close I will lay down snake trap/freezing/then a fire trap and then Master's call if there's a move on me that slows my movement. After that I'll use Nitro boosts on my boots to get some distance, and if that move is on CD, then disengage. It works pretty well for me, by the time I'm back into action I can start letting loose my shots. And the enemy is damaged heavily!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

anyone know the cool down of this talent?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

What's the cooldown time?

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При использовании повышает вероятность парирования на 100% и вероятность уклонения от атак дальнего боя на 100%, а также позволяет с вероятностью 100% уклониться от вражеских заклинаний. Под действием этой способности вы не можете атаковать. Время действия - 5 sec.

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Вероятность парирования повышена на 100%, а вероятность уклонения от атак дальнего боя – на 100%. С вероятностью 100% вы можете уклониться от заклинаний. Невозможно атаковать.
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Эффект #1

Apply Aura: Mod Parry %
Значение: 100%
PvP-мультипликатор: 1

Эффект #2

Apply Aura: Deflect Spells
Значение: 100
PvP-мультипликатор: 1

Эффект #3

Apply Aura: Pacify
PvP-мультипликатор: 1

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