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Ну если ты хант то нет проблем, включил слежение и найдёш) ну могу сказать его найти просто и так. В инсте дошёл до входа в логово и не в него входит, а по прямой назад там пору драконов, поворачиваем влево и там босс драков 255 лвл, на 80 лвле валится легко, и в углу (разрушен угол) он и сидит))Сдалека видно тока 2 горящих глаза, 1 не проручить он каст сбивает((

Комментарий от 482036

Если снять с него шкуру, то появится Айс Вентурон и даст предмет на квестик

Комментарий от RenderTheShaper

Перед комнатой с Генералом Драккисатом есть комната, в которой в ряд стоят несколько костров, отгораживая проход. Перепрыгиваем через них и оказываемся в комнате со Зверем.

Level: Boss
Location: Blackrock Spire
Type: Beast

Background
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The Beast is a boss found in Upper Blackrock Spire. It appears to be a Core Hound that has been captured by the forces of Nefarian for use in his breeding experiments. (Experiments on other core hounds could account for the creation of Chromaggus, a core hound-like dragonkin who is the second-to-last boss found in Blackwing Lair.)

At some point before he is encountered by a party, the Beast has swallowed Finkle Einhorn, a gnomish adventurer who has survived in the Beast's stomach for an unspecified period of time. Skinning the Beast will free Finkle.

Strategies
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Essentially, a tank will need to keep aggro on The Beast at all times as he hits extremely hard and can kill a cloth wearer in 2 or 3 hits, the rest of the raid will want to DPS him. As long as the Main Tank can keep aggro (don't count on this, he fears and random charges a lot. Better to say the main tankS) and you have sufficient healing, this fight should be a simple one. He may drop , which increases skinning by 10, so anyone in the group with a skinning skill of 300 should roll on this if they dont have it already, otherwise it can be greeded. It is vital someone can skin the beast as they can recieve the and also reveal Finkle Einhorn, who is the start of a quest chain.

Комментарий от 9443

TIP: The room where the Beast is in is seperated by a Barracade of Burning wood. If you Clear the entire room before "The Beast's" room You will be able to use this room as a place of refuge if your Party dies. If you run past the Barracade you will lose aggro, and if everyone else is dead he should return to his corner and reset.

Also be aware that one of his attacks he often uses will send anyone in range flying upwards a good distance. Not only will the fall hurt, The Beast will more than likely turn from the main tank and attack another party member. Also watch out for his Fear, If you have a Dwarf healer you are in luck due to the fact The Beast's Fear doesn't affect them.

WARNING: Many groups often make careless mistakes when fighting the beast. If you do not clear the room before the Beast's room always remember that there are MOBS right around the corner from where you are fighting, and you might be feared or thrown out into the next room where all of the MOBS are waiting. So make sure you fight the beast in the middle of the room to make sure this doesn't happen.

-Other than all of that ^^^ This fight is fairly easy and there should be very little problem whilst fighting him.
*This is the room your group's Hunter or whoever is elected to "Kite" the last boss in UBRS "Drakk" will run to*

Комментарий от waggler

which lvl he have?

Комментарий от 42924

Here is something creepy...The Shadowforge key (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=11000)has inscribed on it the letters F.F.F.Replacing the letters with numbers,A=1,B=2,C=3,D=4,E=5,F=6.So F.F.F is actually 666,The Number of The Beast(a little useless but fun :P)

Комментарий от zdravko

I solved the beast as a lvl 70 paly with my friend lvl 70 warrior so bring two 70 lvl friends from ur guild here and enjoy! :D

Комментарий от 69345

ive noticed that if ur a hunter and u have track beasts on u can see this guy on ur map in Lower black rock spire

Комментарий от VooktaVelen

have experienced a bug twice in a row now which really is annoying. In upper spire upon killing the Beast the roll loot appears on the screen how ever The Beast himself cannot be skinned. Why is that? I opened a ticket and GM told me only reason he could not be skinned was because there was loot inside the Beast that was not removed.

Problem is nobody in the 10 man raid group was able to loot it.

GM sent my ticket to a character specialist to have issue looked at.

Has anyone else received this problem?

Strange enough upon exiting the instance, the raid group was completely abandoned and a new party of 4 was created for lower spire, during our run of lower spire all quests could not be completed, no kills counted towards quest boss kills. All 4 of us were players from the upper raid that was previously done.

1 mate contacted a GM and they informed that we were all stuck in raid even tho the raid was gone and a new party had be formed.

Again anyone else experiencing this bug? This was very annoying since we did a full clear of lower spire with only 4 players.

1 good thing came from the lower run how ever, all 3 gems from all 3 bosses did drop for the key quest :)

Комментарий от 83140

Notice the name of the man freed from the beast...FINKLE EINHORN from Ace Ventura pet detective.....not that good of a movie but i was forced to watch it so now i know.
And the whole 666 thing was pretty clever dude. but not correct. shadowforgeif for BRD and in NO-relation to the door(s) in Lbrs or Ubrs

Комментарий от 139657

Its number is six hundred and sixty six.

Комментарий от 140103

Easily 2 manned with a BM hunter + Healer combo.

Just get some random to help summon the first UBRS boss and easily 2 mannable all the way, use a Bat or Carrion Bird's Screech to hold aggro off the healer and you can easily farm him.

Pets dont suffer from all the knockbacks so they hold aggro very easily, keep Mend Pet just incase the healer gets charged and your pet wont go below 70% on this fight. Farmed 3 Ace of Beasts so far this week with a guild healer, he gets all drops to DE and we split 50/50 might not be the best for earning gold, but alot of priests and druids after the Darkmoon card! Can easily sell the card for 200g.

Have a bank alt sat with 200g on it at anytime just for buying out low priced Darkmoon cards, made a few Beast Decks decks from Aces not selling, the whole Beast Deck sells for up to 800g easily(depending on server greatly!)

Easy gold for an easy run.

Комментарий от 83605

Sandlot reference to the big dog called "The Beast" which stayed behind the ballpark fence, and depicted as a very large canine-ish thing, just like this guy :)

Комментарий от 135595

Not tamable by hunters.
Edit: as of patch 3.0.2 he's now tameable

Комментарий от wraithslayer

You can, however, use the Gnomish Shrink Ray on him. Assuming it doesn't misfire, it's pretty funny to see the Beast get shrunk down.

Комментарий от Ruuuuuubje

when a numeric level is required for some calculation

so onlyn when that number is needed then itll be calculated like its a lvl +3 mob (so crit and avoid can be calculated right for exaple) Beside of that its just a "dynamic level". wich means its always enouth lvls above you to be shown as a skull

tried alr with my hunter to use "Beast Lore" on him and its says: "not tameable"

but ofc always try to think outside the box, otherwise nothing would change in this world :P

Комментарий от Reunilana

I can comfirm that beast is TAMEABLE
http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firebalt3wc3.jpg
All you need to do is to get a tank to get aggro from a mob then you need to shout him at the left wall at the fence because he wont knockback you there.

Комментарий от 231986

confirmed...just like the above post...except i've used Aspect of the monkey at all times...Scorpid Sting to pull it...Deterrence when ever i have it...then tame...took me like 30 tries tho...i think it's just luck

Комментарий от 74939

Actually you CAN tame a boss. King Dred, in Drak'tharon Keep. The devilsaur. But that guy is not ? level.
Since The Beast and Maghamar are ? level, you can not tame them.

EDIT: I dunno whats so wrong with this comment that it got downrated

referencing information not yet in a live version of the game is likely the reason your post was downrated.

Комментарий от 156207

Soloed as a 80 rogue in noobish green/blues

Комментарий от 267194

Will a lv 60 hunter be able to tame The Beast, and if so will it go to the same lv as the level 60 hunter?

Комментарий от 267194

not sure if the tame beast ability will break if a tank is holding it to the north west corner with his back against the wall and not attack

Комментарий от 256123

I just solo'd this guy today on my 80 Holy Paladin. The only real problem was his knockback, as the fall took down about 1/4 of my total health. Luckily his other attacks only hit me for about 300 so I just healed up. One glitch I noticed is that, if he charges and fears, you will simply run around through the air, slowly glitching your way down. When I landed i did not take any fall damage, much to my surprise. All in all it was an easy fight, and he dropped my Lightforge Spaulders first try. =D

Комментарий от 303979

is he immune to traps like the other ones in MC or can he be trap? it would make life so easy if he can be traped

Комментарий от Wartem

Soloed this boss with my lvl 70 demon warlock. I used my voidwalker to make it safe but I guess the felguard would have worked too, if not better (faster anyway). I stood against the wall making his knockbacks alot less painful as I didn’t flew up in the air. This was about as far I got in UBRS, General Drakkisath was away too hard.

Комментарий от 357803

the core hounds in MC have the same model and are a lot easier to tame than this guy

Комментарий от 311118

This guy is BEAST man! BEAST!

Комментарий от 239222

"The Beast still lurks..."

Комментарий от cervantes

Tamed him a couple of days ago, as a level 78+ you can skip all the mobs (duh) except for the Arena fight thing. Did it myself with some haste food + elixir, but it only was "fast" enough when I consumed some speed potions. No Bloodlust, so it took like 1 hour worth of tries.

Unfortunately, he doesn't have or anything special on its name! Don't bother if you were planning on taming him for this. Not sure if he was supposed to or was changed recently or I simply misread the comments. Check the screen shot btw.

Комментарий от 452869

Just tamed him today with friends there for backup. yes, definitely pull him into a corner. Yes, be prepared for several attempts since he fears, throws a hissy fit, and just is a pain about keeping the channel up. Yes, having heroism and haste pots would have been a big help but we got it done without. and YES! he does keep the (Boss) on his tooltip when you hover your mouse over him!
All in all this was a great, challenging, satisfying tame!

Комментарий от Parknight

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u254/erroneouz/WoWScrnShot_092309_183415.jpg

Lol. autoshoot on you action bar as an 80?

Комментарий от kberends1979

"The Beast" is most definitely tameable, and even solo-tame-able.

My recommendations for taming this Boss are stand with your back to the haystack in the northwest corner of the room, pull the boss with Scorpid Sting, stack as much haste rating on your gear as possible to minimize taming time, and if at all possible glug a Potion of Speed for the extra 500 Haste rating. I spent a good four hours attempting to tame it, until I tagged the boss with Scorpid Sting prior to the tame. At level 80 that 3% reduced hit chance, makes most of "The Beast"s attacks miss you if you keep aspect of the monkey or aspect of the Dragonhawk up (provided you spent the point in aspect mastery for it). I can also confirm that "The Beast" ~~does NOT retain the ? where it's level was~~, as of patch 3.3 "The Beast" retains ? where it's level would normally be listed and has a Skull rather than it's level on it's unitframe. It also retains (Boss) where you'd normally see (Elite). Also when you use Bestial Wrath, sometimes the graphic does glitch out and you end up with a gianormous Core Hound. I've often had other players complain about this to me. Hope the tips help.

I've submitted a screenshot of it recently with the 3.3 patch after it's tamed so other hunters may see what it looks like post taming.

Hkrannak of Smolderthorn

Комментарий от fraeg

I just tried this and kept getting "Creature not tameable" messages whenever I tried to tame it.

Комментарий от 487034

Easy to solo as a lvl 80.

If you don't want to take as much fall damage, tank him far back in the dark lair he starts off in. You hit the top of that, so you aren't falling as far as if you were out in the open.

Комментарий от 489170

Hey did you guys not notice that this guys demonic but not original model is just a slightly tweaked version of this guy
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/npc=15467

Комментарий от kberends1979

Very true, the hunter taming must maintain full aggro during the entire tame. The Beast IS solo tameable but ridiculously difficult to do so. If you plan to bring heals etc, I'd also recommend another hunter/rogue to misdirect or tricks of the trade you before having the priest fear ward & heal you to tame this, in order to maintain aggro.

As I've stated before, if you plan to solo tame this, be level 80, grab a bunch of haste potions, keep your back to the west side of the northwest wall corner, pull him with scorpid sting to reduce hit chance to hit you, slam your haste potion, pop rapid fire (because the haste DOES affect taming time) and start taming. Traps are worthless because he cannot be slowed or CC'd. If you're group taming him however, I'd recommend a fire trap to get some extra aggro, but not the snake trap because the snakes will (taunt) and take your aggro. As stated he can't be slowed or frozen so your ice traps are worthless during this tame too.

If he knocks you back or fears you, just feign and repeat the process once you've healed up and your potion & rapid fire cooldowns are up. It takes some patience but you just have to really wait until you get lucky enough to tame him faster than he fears or knocks back. Ideally you want at least 300 - 400 haste rating before potions or rapid fire. Also if you're going to solo this you'll want at least 20K health because he hits for 4 - 6k a pop unmitigated while taming since you have 0 armor during a tame.

Wowhead still hasn't taken my "post tame" screenshots. As of patch 3.3 he retains ? where his level is on his tooltip, and (Boss) and maintains a skull instead of a level on his unitframe icon, even though as of patch 3.3 Elite mobs no longer do.

Комментарий от kberends1979

Blackrock Caverns is something I'm certain we can count on in Cataclysm.....

Комментарий от Veph

I tamed this guy over the weekend, and while it was incredibly difficult, eventually I succeeded.

Most of the tips are already mentioned here, and there's some great advice on this page.

I did want to mention that one of the biggest factors in my success was a Paladin friend who cast and on himself. This mitigated 30% of the damage I was taking and I'm pretty sure it's the only way I survived.

So for anyone who's planning on trying this guy, don't give up! It takes a few times usually but it's definitely doable.

Комментарий от 536306

After reading all the posts on how to tame this guy, I came up with my own strategy, with the help of a shaman.
I should mention that I had 16k health, so you can do it with less than 20k, but I would guess that anything less than 14k would cause you problems.

Also make sure not to use any very high dps melee weapons, or weapons with procs.

First have the shaman use Earth Shield on you, activate Aspect Of The Viper, then run in, pull The Beast, and run to the corner with the pile of straw, backing into it as far as possible (if you are as far back as possible he won't fear, only knockback). Have the shaman plop a healing totem down nearby, and start auto-attacking The Beast when he is in range, after a few seconds activate Rapid Fire and start taming. It will probably fail due to the knockback, but the Earth Shield and totem will have stopped you from being killed, so try again. If you run out of mana, auto-attack for a few seconds to build up enough through AotV to activate Tame Beast again. Auto-attacking has the added bonus of causing a fair amount of threat, enough to keep The Beast off the healer, while doing very little damage.

Essentially, keep doing this. The healer should never run out of mana due to not having to use any very often, and you should only run out for a few seconds due to AotV. You should be able to repeat taming many times within a few minutes without dying or having to Feign Death. However, this is a waiting game, although once I had worked out this way of taming, I didn't die again, and had him tamed within 10 minutes.

Most important of all, don't give up or become disheartened. Twice he knocked me with only one second of taming left, but I got him in the end. :)
Additionally, for those who tamed Garwal while he was available, this is very similar, as like the Garwal tame, it takes a while and is based on pure luck ;D

Комментарий от 553921

This most be the most pet in wow ;D it can stun and fear enemies

Комментарий от jdotjdot

I guess if you tame him as a pet he just digests finkle

Комментарий от 567085

Believe it or not, but he dropped "Ace of the Beasts" for me, which seemed to be pretty stylish!

Комментарий от 563264

got him few minutes ago, used: engi hands haste enchant, speed potion, rapid fire, 350 haste from gear, dodge trinket from brewfest(bank ftw), stam trinket from brewfest(again, that one for more tries), ended up with around 30k hp, that gives 3 shots per aggro with scorpid sting, deterrence, fire up macro and tame just 0,5sec after to make sure haste buffs are present...result: 15,1sec tame channeling (i had over nine thousand haste with those buffs, anyway, dont think its possible to lower it below 14,5-15 with more haste on gear and haste trinket), tried for few hours when doing stuff at home, eventually i got it and i'm soo proud of myself ;D

Комментарий от 575077

Easy Solo Tame.....dont let his size and abilities fool you.
Blizzard made it possible to easily tame this hound, do you think that stack of hay in the corner is there for the hound to munch on? not hardly, get in that corner with ur back agaisnt the wall, it prevents the fear from being cast....and.....he cannot knock you backwards. All thats left is you staying alive long enough to tame him....or....being knocked off the tame by the hound.
I was lvl 78 when I tamed him, respec to gain max health, potions of speed, wore junk gear with haste bonuses, haste trinkets, etc.
I think my haste bonuses were around 1000 at the time of taming.
Only two major things to consider.....get as much health as you can and boost your haste as much as you can. I had my tame time down to around 13 seconds, try it on any other creatures until you get it below 15.
Took me four attempts....solo.
Feign death if he knocks you off the tame, let him go back into his den, try again. Health and Haste is all you need. Do not let him kill you, feign as soon as he knocks you off the tame.
Oh, btw...hit him with the scorpid sting to pull him out from his den.
Then strut around town with a lvl? boss pet.

The hardest part of this tame was like anything else.....figuring out how to do it. One you know how, the taming is a piece of cake.....dont forget that while taming your armor goes to 0, so dont concern yourself with anything other than health and haste. My health was around 16k, my haste around 1000. Flask of Stoneblood +1300 health ws used also.

Комментарий от 577272

Im curious ... would this be hard to five man? I've done it with a group of five below lvl 60

Комментарий от Darkensed

What kind of meat I must have for feed The Beast? Please Tell me! :D

Комментарий от dreadblood

I dont think these ppl have tamed this mob, as he is lvl ? (mobs have to be ur lvl or under to tame) I think they just tamed a core hound...

Комментарий от awbemauler

CAN BE 5 MANED PATCH 3.3.0
just beat this guy with:
59 pally tank
57 Druid healer(me)
60 mage
59 Warlock
58 Rogue

not the easiest, wiped first time

What we did:
warlock soul stone rez the healer(incase you die)
tank bring to west wall so he cant push u back
use lots of regen healing spells on everyone

then just hope u got good dps to kill it since hes 80k hp.

**Edit the other boss we could not beat beacuse we had no hunter to kite the elites around, we died when he feared the tank, we tryed killing the 2 elites first but they just spawn when we die.**

Комментарий от 561934

Enough with the "confirmed tameable" or "I tamed him" stories.
x.x
Nowhere seems to tell me what kind of damage he does per hit, and I need to know this.
I plan to solo him on my Lv74 Paladin for the Lightforge shoulders.
If he hits too hard I'll solo him as prot, but if its a Light hitter for someone with 11k HP then I'll solo him as ret.
I dont plan to spend 15 minutes fighting him as prot but if thats the only way cus of his damage...
Cursed RP realms... You become obsessed with good looking armor >_>

Комментарий от Knorislief

you he lose his elite as you tam him

Комментарий от Thottbot

Make these loot deals beforehand and then decide if you want to join the raid or not.

In my humble opinion, I say the skinner has the right to skin everything on the way and keep the skins and leather.

BUT.

A very rare item like this should be available for all that are going to USE it. Need before greed.

Skinners argue that they got to 300 skinning, got Finkle's skinner and perhaps +5 skinning on their armor, but c'mon guys, do Rogues keep everything in the chests they unlock? Not with me, they unlock it and then we roll for the items inside.

I say, you as a skinner "unlock" the body of "The Beast" and let the ones that can use it roll on it. It's loot, nothing more and nothing less.

Of course, if you can make a deal with your group that this item is YOURS when it drops, more power to you.

Note: I am 300 skinning.

Skinners that claim this thing are selfish pricks, that's all.

"But I did my best getting that skinner!" - And you solo'd getting that skinner?
"Well I am the only one that has it!" - You would not be able to kill the Beast solo, either.
"But I spent a lotta time on it!" - Guess what? Those helping you get the skinner and the beast spent a lot of time too.
"But those were different people!" - Even worse, a LOT of people helped you getting the skinner and to the beast, for all their efforts you claim this skin?
Etc. etc. etc.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I've read everybody's post and opinions about this
and now it's my turn to give me opinion.

Getting the Skinning Dagger is a hard thing to do
and on average it will take someone who is trying to
get it at least 20 runs to be successful on average.

Now getting a pristine hide is going to take another
20 runs or so on average.

You think if I mine an arcanite crystal while in an
instance,I'm going to give it up for rolls, I'm a
nice guy and that's possible, but not likely. I
definitly don't think I'm obligated too. The only
way I would put the pristine hide up for rolls would be.

1) all guild run
2) I don't need it
3) my 60 alt don't need it
4) someone else who I know could really use it
and always helps with instances, then I would give
it to him, but a random roll would never happen.

The chance of some noob to UBRS, who this may be
their first time there and first time seeing the
beast go down, should have a chance at it, "I don't
think so"...

It's not random loot, it's something that is 1000G
in the AH, and would make a great epic piece for most
classes. I, as a guild master would say, if the member
wanted to be nice and give it to the guild, then
I would make whoever could use it and wanted it, earn
it by participation, helping others, trade in other
stuff or whatever for it.

A chest being unlocked by a rogue is alot different my friend
I believe he is obligated by being in the guild (Period)
to open any locked chest or door. Does not mean
he has the right to it's contents, that's common
sense man.

Locking Picking is not a primary profession nor
a secondary. Rogue should unlock & everybody rolls.

If a rogue tried to charge me for unlocking any
boxes from my guild, he would be warned then kicked.

But enchants are different, even though they are
guild members, don't mean it's free, if it's small
no big deal, but if it's crusader or something similar
that takes 50G+ worth of mats, you better
help gather the mats my friend.

Комментарий от Thottbot

There are many different points of view on who should get the Pristine Hide when it drops, and who is to say who is right and who is wrong. Just get the loot rules spelled out in the beginning and if you don't agree, don't go one the raid. Ask the skinner what he expects if the hide drops. Simple as that.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Hypothetically speaking, if I was to skin this guy and get the hide I would only allow those who NEEDed it to roll on it. All you people who want easy gold from someone elses work can shut up and go farm plaguelands or silithus. It would be like if a blacksmith made an arcanite reaper and everybody rolled on it then complained that the blacksmith didnt pay up.

In my opinion, skinning the hide and dissing a blue for a shard is very different. There are lots of blues to diss, there is only one beast to skin. If you don't like it, ditch your proff and pick up skinning.

Комментарий от Thottbot

First of all, surprisingly, whole discussion is very civilized on this topic, which i assume more grown up players are interested in this discussion. :)
I am a skinner, without the +10 dagger (yet) and looking for getting it. For a guild run, obviously guild comes first and the decision should be made within. For a PuG, I think skinner must have some privelage if the hide drops. This may be anyhow, maybe chance to roll on it twice (all pass then reroll or MasterLoot)(or roll 120 instead of 100, hehe) or be paid. And the rolling must be if there is someone around that need this for quest. If everyone needs this for greed, i think only the skinner has the r,ght to get the loot. (Surely all 310 skinners rolled beforehand)
I dont think comparing profession is meaningful here, since all have different ups & downs and the hide we are talking about is an epic. I can pay the lockpicker if he wants (yet i'll try to find a one that doesnt want a payment)
The best solution seems talking things before the raid is up, or even when recruiting. Sometimes people seems that they forgot this is a "game" that we all play for fun.

Cheers, hope you all get the items you need andforget about the greed (>'.')>...<('.'<)

Комментарий от Thottbot

im an enchanter, and for most bop's dropped in instances people ask for a disenchant. should i keep the shards? or should i get two rolls because i'm an enchanter? this should be treated like any other pick up, need before greed, but not skinners dibs. each class has a role in a group. and in some cases each profession has a role in a "group". by your logic if a rogue were able to help a group access an area or dungeon, that rogue should get all of the loot the group wins. i think that skinners can leech enough extra loot off a group by skinning the mobs killed by all. ("please make sure you loot the bodies so i can skin, and also please wait for me because i'm going to stay here and skin"). but this is a quest item, and playing one role of many in attaining it does not make you alpha dog here.

Комментарий от Thottbot

"if you cant even get the item by yourself in the first place... this is similiar to a level 1 complaining to a level 60 about how he killed a rare spawn and got an epic, and the level 1 wants a roll at it.... YOU CANT EVEN KILL THE RARE SPAWN "

do you see how you completely contradicted yourself and destroyed your argument? read what you wrote and think long and hard about it.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I'm a blacksmith, My Boyfriend is and Herbalist, And I would think the skinner should get he same respect, In Mara, no one has ever said a thing about my BF getting the mushrooms.... In BRD, No one has ever said a thing about me getting Dark Iron up the .... you know....
Well I think the Skinner or skinners should be allowed the same, I've worked Very hard for my Mining, Grinding it up little by little, and I would really be ticked If I go to BRD and Get 4 Dark Iron ore off of a Mine, and the group says, Hey, We Need to roll for those, they are worth cash, or the gems that come from them, "Because I can use them" If i can Gather the item on my own, I'm not giving them up to have to Pay for them on the AH,
I think that the Skinners should Roll, to see who will Skin The thing, and let it go at that...
Just like with the groups i've been in, We roll on the mines if there are several Miners there...
Every Profession has its money makers, so Why is everyone so insistant on taking the Skinners away?
..
And Yes, I'm greedy enough to _Want_ to roll on the Skin, But I didn't get my skill in Skinning, so It shouldn't be mine to roll on

Комментарий от Thottbot

Ok, so there appears to be some issue as to whether this item should be rolled upon or not. I feel like chipping in my 2 cents to this discussion too.

Firstly, the skinner in question needed to farm his way up to level 300 skinning in the first place. Then he needed to spend a few gold on getting the +5 enchant. Then he needs to do UBRS about 15 times to get the Finkle's Skinner. Then he needs to do it about 80 times to see the hide drop. Then, after all this work you think that the other people in the group should have the right to roll on it? No chance! The skinner did the work, the skinner gets the reward. Sure, if there are other people with Finkle's Skinner in the group then they have every right to roll on it, but the others don't! Do you think that it's right for them to put in all of this effort just to see some random PuG member walk out with a few hundred gold worth of stuff that the hunter worked his ass off for? No. It's a skinner's item, and the skinner does what he wants with it. If you want this item without putting in as much effort as the skinner, then go buy it at the AH. Anyone who tries to make me let everyone roll for it in my group will have a nasty surprise waiting for him. Only those with Finkles Skinner should be allowed to roll for it, not the whiners who want to get it without putting any effort in.

Edited for my occasionally poor spelling

Комментарий от Thottbot

I am a LW/315skinner. I believe that the pristine hide is the reward of choosing a low-yield gathering profession. I personally could not use the hide, but I know that I would never allow those in the raid to roll on it. The pristine hide would be my reward for going to UBRS long after I have needed anything there. I consider it a rare profit from an otherwise almost useless profession. Guilds do not allow a skinner to keep Scales of Onyxia, or Core Leather because they are items that benefit the guild, despite being very valuable. I could give a flying rat's ass about some PUG UBRS group. If you want the hide, skin it yourself. However, should there be another skinner in the raid, I will always roll with him/her after a skinnable boss to ensure fairness among fellow members of my gathering profession. I have no doubt that others in my raid would be angry with me, but I am sure that I would not be blacklisted, 'ninja-hooded,' or /gkicked for taking what I rightfully won. The majority of the people who disagree with me do not skin and therefore, in my mind, have zero say over what I do with my earnings.

Комментарий от Thottbot

ok so you think you get to roll on my skin? why?
its a gathering proffetion right. so only those with said profession should have rights on it since they too could have also skined that same hide from the beast. so if i was in a group and another person and myself both had skinning and the skinner then only 2 people would be alowed to roll why becuase its are profession not yours so go F yourself..... or you two can drop your current profession farm to 300 skill get the knife and try and get a hide. and secondly who cares if you have the quest? a Quest is you doing something trying hard or going out of your way to get somthing done for yourself or somone else so drop your profession get skinning and then we'll talk

Комментарий от Thottbot

Dropped first time i killed beast on my pally! Unfortunately we sat there for 15 mins because the leader wasn't convinced i would use it, though i would sell it. Finally gave me the card, now just waiting for the fair to come to town.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Simple resolution...

PREDETERMINE STUFF LIKE THIS BEFORE THE RUN!

As for who has the right to roll on the Pristine Hide (or any other epic drop for that matter), that has always been a matter of contention...

Only argument I have found reasonably satisfactory is the old WoW adage..."Need before greed: Definition: Need is defined as a drop that can be used (and is usually immediately learnt/equipped/whatevr) to further professions, gear appropriately to class/spec or complete a current quest (or continue in it (such as Frayed Abomination Stitching)..

Need DOES NOT constitute arguments like the following.."I need the Pristine Hide of the Beast so I can sell it and make the money I need for my epic mount/random epic weapon AH buying etc..."

Go away - we don't want your type on our servers...

As for skinners and chanters and stuff...the product of their tradeskill is just that..the product of their tradeskill..

All of you rogues out there..how much would you make on an average day, even just in tips, for opening lockboxes? 20g...50g....100g? I don't know myself, but I would envision from the amount I have spent in my playing time on locked boxes, you guys'd make a fair living (on top of being a damn useful soloing class)...

As stated earlier by someone (apologies for not remembering your name :S ), leather sells for precisely squat (unless it is knothide or something from BC), and the chance of a pristine hide dropping from a skin is pretty remote.

If such an item drops as a result of a tradeskill, the Need before greed loot rules apply..forget the fact it is epic for a moment (which the greedy buggers can't fathom) and consider the fact that;

A) It IS a quest item.
B) It is gained from a high sklill in a profession.
c) High skills in a profession take a long time to attain.

Having said that, while it is perfectly reasonable for the skinner to claim the phat loot for him/herself, if there are people on the quest requiring this skin, then they should have the opportunity to roll for it..

Everyone who claims otherwise is letting the $ signs blind them..

Go farm outlands if ya need cash..and don't ask leatherworkers for gear if ya can't let them do their jobs without moaning...

On another note regarding the Finkle's Skinner drop from The Beast...Next time I lose the roll to it (need, mind you) to a damn miner/blacksmith Pally tool, I'ma scream...

That is just not cricket...

Комментарий от Thottbot

ok, i know im not gonna change anyones minds but think of it this way. you're in BRD with 2 miners. you come up to a dark iron ore mine, who rolls for it? the miners, if a crystals in it, who gets it? the miner. you're in brd again with 2 chanters and a BoE green drops, everyone rolls a chanter wins. he DEs it and some how gets a shard. who gets the shard? the chanter, he lvl'd his skill, did the stuff he needed and earned the shard. you're in mara with 2 herbers, you come to the ghost mushrooms they roll 1 wins, he gets them. now listen here, all the people who won stuff solo'd the vein/DE/erbing, but did not solo the instance. they still got their loot over everyone else because they earned it fair and square. now think of this, you're in ubrs with 2 skinners, and both have finkles. they both roll one wins skins the beast and the hide drops. who gets it? the guy who skinned it of course. i mean so what if its like a 0% drop rate. he won it when he had a high enough skill to get it, and beat everyone else with the same skill. and in order to get the hide you have to have finkles, or some other dagger/chant that would get you to 310 skinning (pre-bc). now did the skinner solo the beast? no. did he lvl his skill, get the extra gear, then the quest, then run it enough times to get the hide to drop? yes. does he get the hide over anyone else in the group regardless? yes. why? because its the way it works. i mean yes the hide was worth tons of gold pre-bc, and was a super rare epic, but it did require a specific proffesion and specific gear, and stons of farming to get, BUT its also a quest item ABOVE ALL ELSE. its used for nothing other then for a quest. and in order to skin the beast you will have finkles, and when you get finkles you get the quest. so if you skin the beast and get the hide its YOUR quest item, not the groups quest item.
-Plagueheart
70 Warlock (390 skinning)
-Postagestamp (300 skinning)

Комментарий от Thottbot

I know that with BC this isnt a big argument anymore. but look at it this way. you ever think that this item was put in so that a skinner had something to make good money on. leather does not sell for nearly as much as other gathered items. i agree skinning is the easiest to level, but why should they give their loot away. and i agree with earlier comments that miners looting a vein in an instance don't make you roll for good items. but say they are a JC and prospect it. out pops an epic gem. do we all get to roll on it, no, even if the ore was looted in that instance. no we don't so why roll on an epic skin. if i was asked at the begining to have a roll for something like that. i would let the people who had a quest roll on it. but if nobody does..SCREW YOU it's mine.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Hey, could a 70 with full season one glad gear or full T6 gear, solo The Beast?

Комментарий от Thottbot

QQ, need 2 more people to get to him, no farming for me :(

Комментарий от Thottbot

Tamed him on the server draka last night. had a shaman friend of mine come with me for heals and heroism. used some taming trick used on uvuros, except the beast has a NASTY knockback that will throw you across his pen. i just stood in corner with hay pile and once i had built enough aggro dismissed old pet and started taming. (make sure you drink a haste potion and have aspect of the monkey on) once shammy popped heroism its was all she wrote.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Well if you can tame him at 70 and he got a skull that kinda just says...SKULLS ARE NOT LEVEL 500! They are only 2-3 levels higher and the skull merely marks it as a boss (really who cares about level in raids? if your the right level for the raid then it makes sense that blizz wouldn't add something at an unimaginably high level in there...common sense people)

Комментарий от Thottbot

Yeah I have to agree... ROFL @ 1k gold to get here. Me and a buddy cleared the instance by ourselves really easy (pally tank / hunter). I'd also agree that this would be in the 62-63 range since he is a boss.

Комментарий от Thottbot

were upper or lower?

Комментарий от Thottbot

Mid Solo with 71 retribution paladin...and the server reset...lame....

But i had his health less than 50%. Stayed backed up against the wall to avoid the excessive damage from falling after being launched by one of his attacks. Totally possible to solo, so if your prof is skinning and you can do this on your own - your entitled to be greedy, lol. I'm not a skinner, but I am trying to get the Ace of Beasts.

Goodluck

Комментарий от Thottbot

Soloed as a lvl 77 combat rogue. Hits quite hard, just wanted to post this so you know it's doable even if your class can't heal itself.
If you try this as a rogue, I'd recommend that you'd save CloS for his Immolate, it does a nasty tick.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Soloed as a 73 BM Hunter with Lynx pet, 21% crit, 10.5khp, 6k mana, and no raid gear equipped. Got thrown around quite a bit because I didn't follow the advice of staying near a wall (panic mode went off and I ended up running around the room) but barely survived. Ended up soloing all of UBRS in about 2 hrs except for Drakk without dying. Will have to return at 80 or find some more adventurous souls on my server willing to relive classic instances. Sadly, they seem few and far between these days :(

Комментарий от Thottbot

Look im lvling a a hunter 55 so far and wondered since its lvl 63 can i tame it at lvl 63 f im BM?

Комментарий от Thottbot

is this in UBRS or LBRS?

Комментарий от Thottbot

Well just to let you know its not BS. Im a level 80 combat rogue and just solo'd him. He doesnt hit very hard when your level 80, I took a heal potion and my trinket that heals about 1400 hp. Thats all I used. Hit evade when the fight began and about halfway thru had to use a heal, then used my trinket and he was done for, I was left with about a third of health after it was all said and done.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

lol she is easy to bad she didnt drop tristram

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This guy is sooo easy. we did 3 runs in a row and got the Ironweave thing and 2 tristam leggings. we had 2 rogues, and they were very happy.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I don't know anything. Though I will sure love to see him, if possible I will hit him just to see him attack. That and have a nice screenshot of extremely high damage.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Guys, if you do notice...this guy is THE BEAST....from....The Sandlot....think about it, in a way hes in his own lil pin....and hes a dog...a giant demon dog....i love blizzards humor

Комментарий от Allakhazam

dont really understad why is he maked has a lvl 500. someone care to explain? is there more like him, with strange lvls?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

anyone who has played on an emulated server knows a couple things about levels, so, i will spread my knowledge to you all.

1. Highest player level YOU can be on an emulated server is 225.
2. Highest level a mob can be is, supposedly, 500.
3. this is somewhat proved, as when you kill level "500" mobs at level 225, they still appear as ?...
4. they are not ACTUALLY level 500, you can solo Blackwing Lair and Molten Core at level 225...heh

Now you decide. ;)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

took this down yesterday with my 58 hunter and he dropped.. Lightforge Shoulders! cant see set items anywhere in the droplist.. new content from the patch or what?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

So how do you get 315 skinning? I know that you can get +5 skinning for gloves but that would make it 305 right?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Is he really lvl 500?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I six manned this dude on the weekend with 5 of my guildies, we 6 manned the whole place except for drac, where we had to get 2 people to come help because we were light on the dps (and our hunter kept getting conflagged lol)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

The drop for Pristine Hide of the Beast is not what is listed on the loot table (0.73%) because The Beast is not skinned every time it is looted. Currently, the drop is 42/1042, or 4.03%. (Look at leather drops only, not total drops; this will change whevever the table is updated.)

Edited, Fri May 19 12:32:57 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Today I had a bug with this mob. No drops :S we can all loot but only 'Wicked Claw' very strange...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

is classified as a Beast... Logical. LOL

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Browsing through the Bestiary

Kinda shocked... lvl 500? Anyone know anything about this guy?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Any one got pictures of it?

Edited, Sun Nov 21 12:39:59 2004

Комментарий от Allakhazam

What interests me is the in the quest, Finkle doesn't specify that the Pristine Hide comes from this specific Core Hound, which makes me wonder why the ones in MC don't have at least some remote chance of dropping it upon skinning, would make a lot of people hella happier...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

when people say hes lvl 500. it just means a lvl 60 sees him as lvl ?. If he had a lvl I say it would be about 65-70 elite. he isn't too bad.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Edited, Mon May 1 14:31:39 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Magmadar Junior :P

This guy is really fun to fight, though his fear can get a little annoying sometimes.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

He's off to the left of the big room just past rend. Past the bonfires.

Soloable at 80 lol. Not that it should be a surprise. Kind of annoying as he shoots you up into the air and fears. As a shaman I used tremor totem, but fears are still annoying. I did a fire elemental just so it wouldn't take so long. Other than a slow kill, he's easy at 80.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Are there any hunters out there who have tamed the Beast? Does anyone know if the Beast is really tameable? Beast Lore says it is, but I wonder. I've went with a group to try to tame it several times for a level 80 hunter. If it is tameable, how can you avoid the knockback or fear?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Allakhazam gets lvl 500 from the addons people have enabled when uploading the info. Like, some patches ago, you saw mobs with Boss Lvl ( a hidden lvl, noone can see it ) like lvl 500, therefore it says lvl 500. Lvl 500 is really just a Boss Level, like the troll in Thrall's Chamber.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Could someone post the most efficient way they have fought and killed him? We tried to fight him with 9 guys (One of our warriors bailed just before the fight). We had two rogues, a warrior, two shamans, three hunters, and a priest. He completely annihilated us, then stomped on our bodies for 5 min to make sure.

I found that the warrior was having a very difficult time keeping aggro from him, and was repeatedly feared off. Then the Beast would stomp over (He moves FAST btw) to the priest and beat on him while the shammys would try healing and earthshocking him off the priest.
Dont get me wrong, I liked fighting him, but I would like advice on how better to proceed.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

wow i've done countless UBRS runs and i won roll on his hide... 0.33% chance and i roll 99..woot

its used to make really good armor from that finkle guy in winterspring.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Ehm does the skinn actauly create a roll or do you have to do a rondom 100 on it? if it generates a roll no way in hell ill farm for it lol.

Комментарий от warmaster101

The Beast is incorrectly a level 62 elite in Classic, rather than a level ? boss as in Vanilla.

Комментарий от Rothia

The Dungeon Set 2 also called Tier 0.5 is aquired through a fairly lengthy, somewhat difficult and expensive quest chain through which you upgrade Dungeon Set 1 pieces.
After completing Возвращение к Бодли which is one part of the chain, you will recieve Жаровня Вызова: инструкция пользователя and Жаровня Вызова.
The manual describes where the brazier can be used to summon a variety of bonus bosses with rare loot in the following dungeons:

BRAZIER OF INVOCATION: USER'S MANUAL - Where to find Haunted Loci

Забытый Город East | Изалиен
"The open-aired chamber where Алззин Перевертень resides is one of these haunted loci."
Жаровня Призыва

Lower Пик Черной горы | Мор Серое Копыто
"Should you seek to raise the echo of Mor Grayhoof's spirit, Воевода Вун's chamber is a haunted location."
Жаровня Призыва

Live Стратхольм | Наследие Сотоса и Джариена appears after defeating Сотос and Джариен
"Thus it is that another of these haunted loci is The Crimson Throne (Балназзар's room) inside The Scarlet Bastion at Stratholme."
Жаровня Призыва

Некроситет | Кормок
"This makes Рас Ледяной Шепот's chamber one of the haunted locations where the brazier can be successfully utilized."
Жаровня Призыва

Upper Пик Черной горы | Лорд Вальтхалак
"As you must know, this makes Lord Valthalak's abode, what is now Чудовище's chamber in Blackrock Spire, the last of the haunted locations."
Жаровня Призыва

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Чудовище

Этот NPC может быть найден в следующих зонах: Пик Черной горы.

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