From what it says on the Ashen Verdict 3.3 guide here on https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/guide=3.3&ashen-verdict, This pattern, as well as Shatter Rounds Will Require 1 Primordial Saronite to purchase, in addition to honored reputation with the Ashen Verdict and Gnomish Engineer/Goblin Engineer respectively. (Alternate Clarification, http://www.wowwiki.com/Ashen_Verdict)

Комментарий от Ritalian

I applaud the relatively low cost too. 5 x 1k stacks from one Eternal Shadow is not too bad at all given the huge DPS increase these can offer (+110 theoretical DPS for my current 10man ToC geared MM hunter over Saronite Razorheads).

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Anyone Honored and spent their badges to buy this yet? I'm a Gnomish Engineer and will be doing so to help our Hunters, as well as making some money...but what I would really like to know is this: can I buy this pattern, learn it, and trade from Gnomish to Goblin - then buy the bullet version, and still be able to make both?

Комментарий от Kelticfox

I would advise any Gnomish engineers not to change specilisation on the basis of DPS Bow/Crossbows that drop in the new patch.

1 DPS Bow drops from Lady Deathwhisper 25 (Zod's Repeating Longbow)
1 Tank Gun drops from Trash (Rowan's Rifle of Silver Bullets)

1 DPS Bow drops from Lady Deathwhisper 10 (Njordnar Bone Bow)
1 DPS Gun drops from Queen Lanathel 10 (Stakethrower)
1 Tank Gun drops from Valitheria 10 (Dreamhunter's Carbine)

And the prospective HC version upgrades (same name, higher stats)

Also 1 DPS Crossbow drops from Ick & Krick in Pit of Saron (though I can't remember the name but seen it drop twice)

So 3 bows vs 1 gun (and the bows are relatively early drops being from the 2nd boss). The moneymaker will be in Arrows.

Комментарий от 319024

Thank to Narain Soothfancy and his book you can change your engineering specialization for a small fee and do both arrows and bullets (not in the same time ofc.).

The important thing:

Quote from Kaliope`s Crafting Blog

Update on the recipe recapture, I went to Ironforge to learn some Gnomish recipes. Then I returned to the Soothsaying book and dropped Gnomish spec. When I retrained Goblin I got my old recipes back again. Then I dropped Goblin and went back to Gnomish. All the Gnomish recipes I had learned were given back to me. So it appears that the recipe recapture ability works both ways. Whichever specialized recipes you've learned will be given back to you when you switch back to that spec.

Комментарий от barbeque

Money is certainly one thing. I now store 20 eternal shadows in my bag. I can, on demand, make 5 stacks of 1000 of the finest arrows from a single eternal shadow. Previously, a stack of saronite bars made me 10 stacks of arrows.

Plus recently, after a night of wipes on a boss, I ran out of arrows mid-fight. If I weren't able to make these, I'd have spent the remaining fight trying to melee the boss.

That, to me, is priceless.

Edit: This used to be the engineering schematic for Iceblade Arrows. This cost one Primordial Saronite to purchase from the reputation vendors and required a honored reputation with the Ashen Verdict. Since 4.01, ranged weapons no longer requires ammunition. This has been downgraded accordingly to become a Ruined Schematic.

Комментарий от Cathbadh

The name of the DPS Crossbow that drops from Ick & Krick in Pit of Saron is Felglacier Bolter

Комментарий от 315792

Still think that cost of the recipe is too high... maybe not for someone who has guidl backing funds for example but for ppl that do not have that luxurious position 1 primordial is 23 emblems is quite pricey imo.
At the moment it feels like another money sink in disguise for engineers, especially with possible changes to ammo coming in Cataclysm...

Комментарий от 129663

One thing I don't get about these two scrolls.. Every single Engineering-scroll is called an Schematic: ... And only these arrows and bullets are called Plans: ... Is this a mistake from Blizzard or is it on pupose? :S

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