Тринька УГ вероятность срабатывания 3.7 %
Проверял в Даларане кастом "Малая волна исцеления" из буфов " Водный щит" Тотем на ману и на палке Жизнь земли.
№ каста срабатывания (16,14,33,36,21,26,43,20,37,21) (после срабатывания ждал пока не спадет буфф потом начинал заново).
На тики Быстрины вообще не сработал не разу за 20 наложенных волн.
но сработал на касте тотема воды и касте самой Быстрины номера кастов через которое срабатывала тринька 5 потом еще раз на 4 потом на 10 быстрине.

Комментарий от 511925

Тестил и в даларане и в реальном бою, пользы от неё особой не заметил. Прибавка в 153 СПД это конечно гут, но вот шанс прока никак не 10%, может 2-3%, не более того, за более чем 5 мин боя с Ребрадом прокнула 2 раза, мне абсолютно не понравилась, ИМХО, не стоит тех 60 баджей которые за неё просит вендор.

Комментарий от 471720

Ох незнаю как ты тестил но на присте(холи) прокает почти стабильно за 1.45мин прокает 2 раза. Тупо спамил на себя быстрое исцеление. Итог за слив почти фул маны (хилил, хилил, быстро, быстро себя) Прокнуло 2 раза

Комментарий от 514837

странно Вы как-то проверяете, честное слово...
кроме приведенного Dia666blo - реальных результатов нет

но соглашусь, что 304 манны каждые 5 сек на протяжении 15 сек - это немного... всего 912 манны за прок...
прок, условно, раз в минуту при непрерывном спаме заклинаний.

в буржуйских коментах приведены более подробные тесты и сделаны следующие выводы: (tnx hellomynameis):

..well, you get the point. The faster the fight, the better mp5 this gives.
~76-87mp5 on bossfights
~76-101mp5 on trash

Комментарий от 224253

76-87 мп5 - немного? Назовите любой предмет, который дает больше.

Утешение поверженных дает больше, если точнее 128 постоянных мп5.
На данный момент, имхо, утешение и пыль - 2 лучшие тринки для хилера.

Комментарий от 537182

Взял только что. Я рестор шаман, в среднем с чайника 3 прока за фулл столб маны, в рейде с улучшенным манарегом будет порядка 4ех проков за столб = 4к маны. В принципе норм, овнит на 1к маны в реген триню с ребрада из 10ки при учете 4ех минутного боя.
В принципе дсотупный середнячок, думаю стоит пока бегать с ней пока ребятки сливаюца по дкп на триню с корабля.

Комментарий от morgotsh

Назвать триню лучше? Назову.
Искра надежды

Снижает расход маны на заклинание на 42. При софткапе хаста (гкд 1 сек) и спаме хила дает нам 42*5 = 210 мп5.
Плюс 100 духа, а это еще 20+ мп5.

Комментарий от 338756

Апнули спд теперь 179, на мой взгляд единственная тринька которая лучше данной для меня, холи прист, Утешение павших гер.

Комментарий от 431955

пару раз видел арканов с такой триней.. очень удивлялся

Комментарий от 486618

Очень грустная по проку тринка, шанс явно меньше заявленных 10%...

Комментарий от 451392

поддержу мысль что тринька уг полный! Купил ее, примерно минуту хилил себя флэшками, ждал чуда, но его не произошло, она так и не сработала, после чего я ее с возмущением вернул продавцу!

Комментарий от 550852

Хочу поспорить.Приобрел данный тринк сегодня хпалу.На предыдущем патче прокала ничтожно редко.А сейчас довольно часто прокает, даже очень.Советую проверить.

Мулдашев\разувий

Комментарий от 219309

висит на шаме элем\хил - аптайм по логам ~90%
прокает от установки тотема(ов)

очень интересно почему в maxdps.com для шама эта тринька занимает последние место по дпс(179спд +мп5) ? а тринька с сарта25 (200спд) катируется выше, так же с глазом проматери (осктрокрылая) (125спд+крит)

So, according to an old mmo-champ post, "Item - Icecrown 25 Emblem Healer Trinket - Your spell casts have a chance to grant 100 mana per 5 sec for until cancelled", does this mean that the trinket was buffed, or that with the higher mp5 now it will have a 45 ICD? The latter making it worse than heroic Solace.

Комментарий от alfonzzo

Assuming 1 ppm, the proc works out to 76 mp5 (304 * 3 / 12)

Compared to the 245 Solace of the defeated, even though this is 19 ilvl's higher, it gives
+29 spell power
-52 mp/5

~~The trend of bad trinket itemization continues...~~

Edit: updated finally to reflect sp upgrade.
This is arguably better now since the value of mana regen is much less than SP for most fights.

Комментарий от Rebecca191

Is it just me or does this trinket seem kind of underbudget? Perhaps they purposely itemized it badly because it's a badge item, but the spellpower + regen increase seems rather low for the amount of ilevels this trinket has over other similar trinkets.

Комментарий от 125795

45sec internal CD, like similar trinkets, and with druids 1 sec gcd instead of 1.5sec cd. It would proc every 55sec on average. Thats ~1.1 ppm, but since its on spellcast, not spellheal. And most likely a drood wont spam 10 spellcasts within those 10sec after the internal CD is up. So lets say 1ppm.

304*3=912mana per 60sec=76mp5

In a 1min 30sec fight, this will proc at the start of the fight, and again after internal CD is up.
912*2mana per 90sec ~= 101mp5

In a 2min 30sec fight, this will proc at the start of the fight, and again after internal CD is up, and once more.
912*3mana per 150sec ~= 91mp5

In a 3min 30sec fight, this will proc at the start of the fight, and again after internal CD is up, and twice more.
912*4mana per 210sec ~= 87mp5

..well, you get the point. The faster the fight, the better mp5 this gives.
~76-87mp5 on bossfights
~76-101mp5 on trash

So, let me ask you this; When do you need mp5 the most? ;)
I need it on bossfights, therefore 76mp5 would be the right number to evaluate this trinket from.

Edit: Please dont rate down because of one word, when the rest is insightful/relevant.

Комментарий от 125795

3.3 patch heal trinkets by mp5:
138 mp5 Ephemeral Snowflake +2.4% haste
76-101 mp5 Purified Lunar Dust 153 spellpower
66-87 mp5 Sliver of Pure Ice 158 spellpower
67 mp5 Althor's Abacus 179 spellpower
0 mp5 Nevermelting Ice Crystal +111 spellpower +2.2% crit

3.3 patch heal trinkets by spellpower:
179 spellpower Althor's Abacus +67 mp5
158 spellpower Sliver of Pure Ice +66-87 mp5
153 spellpower Purified Lunar Dust +76-101 mp5
111 spellpower Nevermelting Ice Crystal +2.2% crit
0 spellpower Ephemeral Snowflake +138 mp5 +2.4% haste

Комментарий от 125795

Bonez0r: "at best" since 1sec gcd is better then 1.5sec gcd. But kk, will changed it to "proc every 55 sec on average".
..and about 1sec gcd, here is why:

Tested with Gift of the Earthmother and Celestial Focus 12/12-09(3.3 patch) and a macro:
/cast Thorns
/script local start, duration, enable = GetActionCooldown(4);DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(duration);

623 haste rating = 1.001sec GCD on Lifebloom, and 1.112sec GCD on the rest.
633 haste rating = 1sec GCD on Lifebloom, and 1.109sec GCD on the rest.
1053 haste rating = 1.002sec GCD on all spells(except lifebloom ofc).
1058 haste rating = 1sec GCD on all spells.
So, haste cap on all spells is 1053-1058, but on lifebloom its 623-633 with Gift of the Earthmother and Celestial Focus

But with Wrath of Air Totem(5%) + Improved Moonkin Form/Swift Retribution(3%) the cap will be lower.
So haste is good for a druid, most casts is instant, so we want to get gcd down. Thats why I did the numbers with 1sec gcd, since thats what most druids try to achieve.
Haste "buffs" for a druid in raids: Gift of the Earthmother(10%) + Celestial Focus(3%) + Wrath of Air Totem(5%) + Improved Moonkin Form/Swift Retribution(3%)

1% haste=32.79 haste rating

Комментарий от CoroHD

Je'Tze's Bell on steriods

Комментарий от 111007

Horribly itemized...
compare the spellpower:ilvl to
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=45535
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=47059
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=50359

Conclusion: it's missing 26 Spellpower, no small chunk.

Комментарий от 425082

Cycle:
10 Seconds to Proc (Averaging as it could proc before even if they don't cast 10 spells in a row: it doesn't proc after 10 spellcasts, it has a 10% CHANCE to proc)
15 Seconds the trinket is active, returning 912 mana
30 Seconds the trinket is inactive

55 Seconds: 912 mana returned /11 = 83 MP5 (in bursts, of course)

That is the worst possible MP5 this trinket could have.

But, it depends on chance really.

Let's use this "cycle" above on a 5 minute (300 second) boss fight.

5 "Cycles" is 275 Seconds with 4560 mana returned, or 83 MP5, as said above.

If the fight ends here, it gives an average 83 MP5 depending on how lucky you are with the proc rate.

But, if the fight goes on for another 25 seconds, it returns another 912 mana, making its MP5 value rise to 91 for the entire fight.

If the fight is shorter, it could average even more MP5: up to a possible 110 on a 2 minute fight.

Which, is still pretty bad compared to Solace.

Комментарий от 514665

Compared with this and Spark of Hope, which is better for a holy priest? think the spark of hope gives more mp5 and the cost of this trinket can be well put into a new t10. Thanks

Комментарий от Bandyto

Does the proc stack with the proc of Sif's Remembrance?

Комментарий от 57105

Kinda wish I would have saved the emblems for something more useful... /facepalm

Комментарий от 124900

If you look at www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=45929 and https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=45466, it's clear same ilvl trinkets don't always have the same SP and nobody complains Sif's Remembrance is a worse trinket due to the lack of SP.

I guess maybe the issue of our calculation is to assume the 45s internal CD, but I remember the only limit of this "on proc mana regen" style is the 10% proc rate. If it does have no internal CD, the mana regen should be higher than we calculated and favor those haste-capped healers.

Комментарий от 492465

For those of you interested in real numbers, I "rented" the trinket last night on my resto shaman and evaluated the log results from a few 10-man boss fights. Note that uptime here means the percentage of the fight that I had the 304mp5 buff active.

Marrowgar: 23.4% uptime = 71 mp5
Deathwhisper: 19.8% uptime = 60 mp5
Saurfang: 22.1% uptime = 67 mp5
Festergut: 24.2% uptime = 74 mp5

Average: 68mp5

As you can guess from the fights and uptime numbers, more spammy healing fights will push the mp5 value of this trinket up slightly. All the above bosses were two-healed with a disc priest.

Armory Link

EDIT:

I suppose I should add a conclusion: this trinket has an ICD. for the fight with the highest uptime (Festergut), the PPM is 1.03, and if you look at my armory, you can see I have enough haste to be proccing this trinket nearly as often as it can.

Комментарий от 208225

Blue Post saying that this item is 22 spell power under budget and will be upped:

Ghostcrawler

Комментарий от DrSlump

It is now 179 spell power after 3.3.2 fixes.

Комментарий от aussiebeerfan

New live stats:

Purified Lunar Dust
Binds when picked up
Unique
Trinket
Requires Level 80
Item Level 264
Equip: Increases spell power by 179.
Equip: Your spell casts have a chance to grant 304 mana per 5 sec for 15 sec.

Комментарий от 515845

Any more comments since this thing got buffed? I'm still not sure if it's worth it.

Комментарий от Nahin

Marrowgar: 23.4% uptime = 71 mp5
Deathwhisper: 19.8% uptime = 60 mp5
Saurfang: 22.1% uptime = 67 mp5
Festergut: 24.2% uptime = 74 mp5

Average: 68mp5

Let's say that you get 68mp5 from this trinket.
Thats 816mana / minute... (68*(60/5))
If a boss encounter goes on for say 5 minutes thats 4080mana.

Holy light costs atleast 1000mana, that adds upp to 4 extra holy light casts per fight.

Is the trinket worth it? Is my math correct? Yes/no?

EDIT: This is ofc a speculation of relative data. Longer fights gives more mana, more procs gives more mana etc.

Комментарий от celebiwolf

Best possible condition.

If it procs as soon as the fight starts and every time it is available again.
Based on a 5 Minute Boss fight (cause normally if your not done by then you go into berserk)

300 Seconds in 5 mins
270 seconds will be spent on the ICD (Internal Cool Down)
7 Procs

For every proc you get:
60.8 Mana Per Second for 15 seconds
304 MP5 for 15 Seconds
912 Overall Mana

1824 after 2 Procs
2736 after 3 Procs
3648 after 4 Procs
4560 after 5 Procs
5472 after 6 Procs

Overall after 7 Procs:
60.8 Mana Per Second for 105 Seconds
304 MP5 for 105 Seconds
6384 Overall Mana

Overall for a 5 Minute Fight (Remember this is the best possible Results and I doubt anyone would get these or has gotten these)

21.28 Mana Per Second
106.4 MP5

Most people are getting 65 - 80 MP5 average.

Комментарий от Ketho

Purified Lunar Dust procs the Revitalized effect

Комментарий от 138940

Does this trinket share other cooldowns with other proc's? I.E. the ashen verdict ring's proc rate ?

Комментарий от 206160

Thanks God it is on 'spell cast', not 'your healing spells' or something.
means I could use it for my Resto, and Ele spec. (though Ele hardly have a mana issue, the SP on this is huge, for someone who don't raid every night...)

Комментарий от 142421

No-one seems to mention this trinkets possible use for pvp? Is the mp5 buff dispellable? I am wondering if this is better than the Battlemaster's Ruination trinket. Ok, you don't have a 3 minute healthstone option with it, but you get a lot of mana, which will be useful in the mana wars for 2's and 3's in arena, and a little more spellpower. What do other people think?

Комментарий от 44382

Here's a thought.

This is good for arcane mages.

Ok, laugh it up.. go on... laugh more :)

I will now explain (in the hope that I will get a sensible correction)

Tradition has it that arcane mages don't have a mana problem... especially if they have 2*T10 and are doing a reactive rotation to maximize the haste buff (ie hit arcane missiles every time missile barrage procs to get the 2*T10 bonus to proc for the next 2 or 3 spells), and have the kind of iLvl 250+ mana pool that you can get with the gear around at the moment. My mage has 34k raid buffed at the moment. Which is quite a bit, but I have seen many mages with more than that.

But Incanter's Absorption now only works with our own shields. Mana shield is seen as too inefficient to be used to get the IA spell power buff, but if you have a mountain of mana... who gives a toss about efficiency?

Ok - so,
For an arcane mage, assuming 68 mp5 you will get 4K mana in a 5 minute fight.

IA returns 15% of damage shielded
Mana shield (untalented) returns 2666 of damage absorbed from 4k of mana
0.15 * 2666 = 400
400 /4 = 100

Why /4?

because we get 400 sp from this trinket for 10 seconds over all. On use trinkets proc for 20 seconds every 2 minutes -or twice in a 5 min fight, so make 10s = 20s and spread it out twice..

So with a bit of squinting and a bit of a push this has a proc of +100 sp for 20 secs every 2 minutes.

It's not quite equivalent to that, to be honest, because you are not going to be able to choose to do it when you want, but on the other hand you can pop your manashield and not die, which is prime objective number 1, and then wack the crap out of whatever boss you are fighting, which is good.

Also if you are running out of mana you could just keep the mana and use it for spells and stuff...

Anyway, loads of fights have aoe damage, healers have trouble healing everyone, lightening the load on the healers is good, doing big numbers is good...

I think that this trinket is all win.

Комментарий от 111622

Holy Priest, this did about 4% of my total mana regeneration from Vault25.

Комментарий от Siedjeey

So, after reading the above comments I'm still kinda confused...
Which one is the best for a Holy Paladin?
-Solace of The Fallen
-Sliver of Pure Ice
-Purified Lunar Dust

Any help?

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