yea im kinda sad... i havent run test myself but it seems that this sigil provides more dps than VH if it effected Death Strike (for blood). Using Ob diseaseless is ~2k-4k less dmg than using DS diseaseless (well it doesnt matter but, using it at the same time of the rotation, 1 strike every 20sec that is death strike diseaseless in the blood rotation) replaced by OB to get the proc from the sigil perhaps? Even so its only a 80% chance.. sigh

im gonna buy it when i can, in good faith it should change to death strike or a bugged tooltip (like Mjolnir Runestone)

Комментарий от Sildran

I wonder, has anyone been able to test if it does have an internal cd like trinkets or is it an almost perma +200str buff?

Комментарий от 53090

The 9 set bonus is almost identical to this, but it is only 180 strength for 15 seconds and it is activated by heart strike and blood strike.

Комментарий от rodalpho

Costs 25 emblems of triumph. This sigil sims as significantly superior to awareness and vengeful heart for unholy and frost specced DKs.

Комментарий от Jushak

The answer is mostly quite obvious with the proc rate being 80% but... Does this thing have internal CD? I'm assuming 45 second one, but anyone know for sure?

Edit: Confirmed ICD of 10 seconds. As DW Frost DK running GoDisease priority rotation it's easy to play around this CD to ensure 100% uptime, not that it's usually even needed.

Комментарий от frozenthorn

The proc rate is 80% with NO internal CD, that means in a normal rotation you will have a 100% uptime on the 200str

I attacked the boss target dummy for 6 mins straight, the buff never fell off and the buff stacks with your FC buff, they don't conflict, same name but different icons so you can see them both up at the same time easily and calculated properly.

I'd say definitely more valuable than vengeful heart.

Комментарий от 70501

Despite having an 80% proc chance, it does have an internal cooldown of about 10 seconds.

Комментарий от 224296

I just picked this up earlier tonight and this proc almost every Scourge Strike. This sigil fits extremely well with DMC: Greatness.

Комментарий от frmorrison

Just to confirm what others have said, this trinket does not work on Death Strike.

It has an approximate ~80% chance to proc off an SS/Oblit, and has a 10 second ICD.
The uptime is ~95% for Unholy for a sustained dps encounter.

Комментарий от Willias

So, since this is a flat STR buff and affects all offensive DK abilities, would that make this Sigil better for an Unholy tank's threat than the Sigil of Awareness?

Комментарий от 338095

I think this would be better overall for any tank than Awareness. The 200 strength is going to boost all of your offensive abilities and add a respectable amount of parry rating due to forceful deflection.

Комментарий от 108670

If death strike (mainly used by blood speced DK) isn't included among the abilities that trigger this effect, it is probably because of the new T9 2 pieces bonus which is obviously blood spec oriented. I know Frost and unholy specs include Blood strike in their rotation but not as often as a blood spec dk uses HS.
Now the question is : is this buff stackable with the one from the T9 set or will we see something like "a more powerful spell is already active" when the bonus spell is triggered while sigil of virulence's unholy strenght is active ?

Комментарий от 312734

This sigil makes you wonder if Blizz wants Blood DKs to spec into Annihilation in frost tree and don't bother with using Death Strike anymore. Question is if this will out-DPS Necrosis and Blood -caked Blade from Unholy. In all fairness Death Strike should be added to it.

Комментарий от ZaftAlthaus

Fantastic for every spec but Blood so far. This is the best sigil you can nab at the moment. It has a very high proc rate, so it is nearly -always- up, and because Fallen Crusader is via percentage (15%) it also effects how much STR that gives you as well.

Factor in that strength contributes to ALL of our abilities, including auto attack, not just "obliterate" or "frost strike", etc, and this is absolutely beautiful.

An added bonus is that this can proc off the off-hand strike if you have Threat of Thassarian, which means that if your main hand attack doesn't proc it, this may.

Hope that helps if you're debating on what Sigil to use.

Комментарий от 205761

Good for tanking if you need some extra threat...

Комментарий от Bareno

Death Strike now has an chance to proc this as of PTR Build 0.2.2.10392.

(Source)

Комментарий от brN1337

Death Knight

* Sigil of Virulence now also affects Death Strike.

3.2.2 /yay for blood dks

Комментарий от Aristile

as of 3.2.2 this sigil is jesus in a bottle for all DPS DK's.

Комментарий от 339690

This item change isn't listed in the patch notes. It may have been removed from the changes... Lets hope not fellow Blood DKs!

Комментарий от 456163

3.2 is live and it's fixed! YAY!

Комментарий от Gladeus

The buff associated with the proc is called "Unholy Force" for those using PowerAura or similar-type addon(s).

Комментарий от neomasterc

This is now the BiS sigil for blood DKs.

Комментарий от 388931

The animation for the proc is the same as the animation for Darkmoon Card: Greatness or a stamina scroll. (The bird popping up over your head for a second or two)

EDIT: Why do people downrate stuff that's true?

Комментарий от Elesar13

10 Sec ICD? is this activated on the ability proc or after the effect has finished, im pretty sure ive had it proc within 10 second of losing the buff

Комментарий от Kemikalignu

I'm wondering if this sigil is superior to Sigil of Awareness for a blood DK tank, when it comes to threat on not-so-hard-hitting bosses.. It aint mentioned in Ensidia's guide..

Have anyone actually tried to calculate this or read it somewhere else?

Комментарий от jaq1010

I finally picked this up today and let me tell you, no DK DPS should be without this. I had a lucky run of procs (this, Mirror of Truth, Pyrite Infuser, and the t9 2 set bonus) and I had 9.6K AP with my only buff being Horn of Winter. In a long boss fight it'll be a piece of cake to keep at least the 2 set bonus and Sigil of Virulence's bonus up. Awesome sigil now that it includes Death Strike.

Комментарий от 267799

Just to clarify the difference between this two sigil :
from elitisjerk :

The following calculations assume dual Vul'mir (2.6 speed, 465 average damage), 30% melee crit, 23% spell crit, 20% haste, 15% miss chance (hit capped for specials and spells) and a 0/54/18 build (full bcb, no subversion). They do not consider target armor, armor penetration or magical damage bonuses like Ebon Plaguebringer or Crypt Fever. Many of the numbers are rounded.

Sigil of Virulence

AP bonus from Sigil
200*1.03*1.1 = 226.6 Strength
453.2*1.1 = 498.5 AP

Damage bonus to IT
(498,5*0,1*1,15*1,15*1,2*1,1)+(0,38*(498,5*0,1*1,15*1,15*1,2*1,1)) = 120

Damage bonus to Blood Plague & Frost Fever
498,5*0,055*1,1*1,15 = 34,7~ per tick

Bonus damage to KMRime
498,5*0,1*1,1*1,2*1,15*2,45 = 185,4

Bonus damage to Obliterate
(498,5/14)*2,4*1,15 + 0,45*((498,5/14)*2,4*1,15)*1,45 = 162,725

Bonus damage to Blood Strike
(498,5/14)*2,4*1,15 + 0,3*((498,5/14)*2,4*1,15)*1,45 = 141,7

Bonus damage to Plague Strike
(498,5/14)*2,4*1,15 + 0,36*((498,5/14)*2,4*1,15)*1,3 = 162,725

Bonus damage to Frost Strike
(498,5/14)*2,4*1,1*1,15 + 0,3*((498,5/14)*2,4*1,1*1,15)*1,45 = 155,2

Bonus damage to BCB
(498,5/14)*2.6*0,3 = 27,8

Bonus damage to white hits w/ Necrosis
(498,5/14)*2,4 + ((0,2*1,1)*(498,5/14)*2,4)) = 135,6

Number of attacks
2.6*0,8 = 2,08
20/2,08 = 9,61 attacks

DPS
One rotation is 1 IT, 1 PS, 2 BS, 4 OB, 3 FS,1 HB and 7 ticks of BP and FF to simplify the maths.

Melee: (9,61*(135,6+27,8) + 9,61*(135,6+27,8)*0,575)*0,85 = 2091
Obliterate: 4*162,725 + 4*162,725*0,575 = 1025,85
Blood Strike: 2*141,1 + 2*141,1*0,575 = 446,4
Frost Strike: 3*155,2 + 3*155,2*0,575 = 733,3
Plague Strike: 162,725 + 162,725*0,575 = 259,3
Blood Plague & Frost Fever: 14*34,7 = 485,8
KMRime: 185,4
Icy Touch: 120

2091+1025,85+446,4+733,3+259,3+485,8+185,4+120 = 5347

5347/20 = 267,35 DPS

Sigil of Awareness

Without sigil
((465+1001)*1.25*1.15 + ((465+1001)*1.25*1.15)*0,45*1,45)*4 = 13929,75
13929,75 + 13929,75*0,575 = 21939,36

With sigil
((465+1001+336)*1.25*1.15 + ((465+1001+336)*1.25*1.15)*0,45*1,45)*4 = 17122,38
17122,38 + 17122,38*0,575 = 26967,7485

DPS
26967,7485 - 21939,36 = 5028,3885

5028,3885/20 = 251,4 DPS

Conclusion
It is as we have suspected from the start, the two sigils are very close to each other when looking at a single target fight with no movement. Sigil of Virulence wins by 16 DPS in these calculations, but they do not include all the variables that exist in a raiding environment and I am unsure how they would affect either sigil. Do keep in mind that Sigil of Virulence scales with haste, hit beyond melee hit cap and special debuffs that increase magic damage (F.ex fires at Hodir) whereas Sigil of Awareness does not.

==> so I prefer my sigil of virulence

Комментарий от Rackin

There's internal CD for the sigil trigger effect?

Комментарий от Felix79

I have to admit I have been a fool for removing this and going for the hanged man sigil. The difference off having this +200 strength proc and the hanged man proc is significant. It goes to show that choosing your gear through research is always better than just getting higher level items.

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