to be honest i have to say that this will have a slight use but really its going to be one of the most useless glphys that a rogue can get, this may seem good in pvp but picture it, you ambush a frost mage from the 10yds away his frost armor gets on you and you're to far to shiv so u cant put crippling so your already starting to be kited and if the mage has decent skill they will probably be able to easily take you down like this so i suggest all the ambush rogues out there avoid this cause come on really, your meele not ranged so why would u want to be further from your target?

Комментарий от 1771

well its like with extended range for sap, which is very useful.
I know that I will take this glyph and ditch the 2 points in dirty tricks.

edit:sorry changed from 'deeds' to 'tricks'..

Комментарий от Barkend

With this glyph you'll need a polearm to use Ambush.

Комментарий от 105944

possibly the worst glyph for rogues atm

Комментарий от 115964

While this glyph may not be very appealing to high level rogues with better options, this glyph will be quite useful for low level dagger rogues and most certainly twinks as well.

Комментарий от lysandergray

I don't understand why nobody brought up the lag issue. This glyph is a godsend in that respect. Ever found yourself in stealth and tailgating a mage on 10%, mashing your ambush button like a crazed ferret? Ever noticed how Cheap Shot tends to be more reliable in that respect? A few milliseconds of latency difference between you and your target can render your Ambush useless.

And another pro argument for this glyph. If you're 10 yards behind the target, simple geometry will prove that you have a larger window to be behind the target. If Ambush requires melee range (no glyph) and you're hugging the target you have a window of about 2 yards to the left and right. With this glyph you get immense positioning freedom, you can ambush from anywhere in a 10 yard cone behind.

Комментарий от 266787

This is also nice for anyone wanting to level up using ambush. One big argument I often hear against doing so is that you "waste a whole bunch of time stealthing around".

If I can open on my target from further away, it means I get to open sooner. Ergo, the exp/hour I make goes up that much more.

Комментарий от 105944

leveling ambushes biggest issue is the positional requirements of backstab and ambush

with combat you have much higher mitigation, no positional reqs, you can AoE mobs down, and do you really put yourself in a situation where need to vanish every 2 mins to make elusiveness worth it?

combat is the superior leveling build- there really is no arguing that

Комментарий от Malvard

Fun idea, but this should really be a MINOR glyph

also,
I often wonder, why DONT they let (some) glyph effects stack?
Sure a 20 yard ambush range sounds ridiculous, but keep in mind you wouldnt have any other major glyphs.
Still true with alot of other glyphs. If someone wants 2 or 3 of the same glyph, sure tahttl be a pretty heavy buff, but keep in mind, theyr still using up the other glyph slots.no glyph of vigor, or eviscerate, etc...

maybe have glyphs ahve individual limitations, some can have 2, some 3, some be limited to 1

Комментарий от Kirbymorph

If you are a subtlety rogue that uses ambush as your primary opener, this is the best possible glyph you can get from a pvp perspective. Negates lag issues, negates range issues for moving targets and poses no negatives. As others have said, you have talents to slow their movement on crits (Ambush has a near 100% crit rate for all but teh %^&*tiest geared people) and you'll have, in most cases, a speed boost from the shadowstep coming out of stealth that more than makes up for any range issues if the ambush went off at its max range and they were still moving.

Комментарий от Polatrite

I sincerely believe this should have been a minor glyph. 5 yards in a tree most likely to take Shadowstep (and Shadow Dance) has almost no use for this glyph, since Shadowstep will put you in range almost all the time.

If this were minor, I might consider it over Safe Fall or something (note: might, I like SF for BGs), but in order to be a major glyph it really should have a substantial effect. If it had a 1 second non-diminished stun, it might be more suitable for a major slot, as that would give you time to close in to melee range as well as provide an interrupt on it. You might actually consider using Ambush as an opener were this the case.

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