Очень интересует вопрос использования для твинков - можно ли на этот лук прикручивать топовые прицелы? Например Прицел "Пронзатель сердец". И не помешает ли это использовать такой прицел но уже твинком?

Комментарий от Veitarn

На сколько мне известно, на плечи можно вешать только чант с +30 стамины и +15 ресайленса ( Honor Hold в Оргри, стоит 10к хонора) и, возможно, ЗульГурубсие чанты, при достижении уровня Exalted.
На данный момент на лук нельзя вешать никаких чантов, но на PTR 3.1 реалме люди пока что могут вешать +40 крит рейтинга, что дает ханту 77% крита на 1ом уровне. Вероятнее всего эту возможность уберут. Но надеюсь, что мы получим какую-либо альтернативу.

Комментарий от grimmstein

Повесил на этот лук Адамантитовый прицел, инженера с Стабилизированный этерниевый прицел пока не нашел, чтоб проверить. Проверьте кто может

Комментарий от 368432

А что лучше для ханта-твиника: етот лук, или

Комментарий от 522385

Кто ни будь может сказать какие статы у него если ты 80 го уровня.

Комментарий от 483384

тоесть если на оружие/доспехе красное улучшение то оно неработает?

Комментарий от Suicide777

Вопрос можно ли передавать такие вещи между серваками?Между фракциями можно...

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Heirloom armor will transform based on the character who wears it. Therefore, a level 80 plate piece can be worn by a level 1-39 character who wears mail, but gains the ability to wear plate at level 40.

Комментарий от 162976

I like the way you think

Комментарий от 162742

If these really come out, this will mean we never have to buy weapons for alts again. 0_0

Комментарий от 147558

Only one downside to bows (compared to other items.) while you can boost shoulder armor with the drops from nax (if you get em before x-pack launches and old-world nax is gone forever) and melee/casting weapons can get pre-BC enchants on them like CRUSADER, bows can only get the scopes you can put on a level 1 bow. that is +1 damage. how sad.

Комментарий от 214152

I'm curious as to the stats of the other levels of this weapon. Does anyone know/have them? Meaning if this weapon were to be used by a lvl 1-79 toon, what would the stats be?

Комментарий от 236993

Though I don't know the actual 1-79 stats of this or any other Heirloom item, it was said that items such as this would scale to be equivalent to rares/blues of the character's level. So I would imagine, especially for the lower levels, that this would hold you steady while leveling. Once you get higher you would likely replace it with epics/purples from instances though. I think a few good examples to help get an idea of how these would level was posted for Bloodied Arcanite Reaper.

Комментарий от 30584

I'm glad they're using all of the cool old-school weapons for Heirlooms. I mean, Ancient Bone Bow is still one of the coolest looking ranged weapons out there. I'll be glad to use it again!

Комментарий от 96362

Blue post: We intend to expand the types of ways that Heirlooms can be attained but for now they are only purchasable via Emblems of Heroism (the new BoJ) and Stone Keeper’s Shards, which are attained by killing any dungeon boss in Northrend while your faction controls Wintergrasp.

Read more here

Комментарий от evankimori

Oh the days of farming Scholo for this bow and not getting it to drop. Curse you random loot!

One of the best spooky bow skins pre-BC in my opinion and a very great firing animation.

Комментарий от 11715

Heirloom items are a great, GREAT idea to make alt-maniacs like myself happy.

No more wasting TONS os money buying good items at AH to help your alt level faster and having to vendor them after 1 or 2 days!

And the best part - I can gear up my alt playing heroics with my friends in my main :)

Комментарий от 89030604

How does this work with scopes? and does the model scales aswell? or could you have these looks on a lvl 1+?

Комментарий от Davethesloth

This item is also one of the many new Bind to Account items.
This means you can send it to any character on your Realm/Faction.
When using a Character Realm Transfer these items will also follow you.

Комментарий от malystryx

If you're curious as to how this item scales down with your character's level (for purposes of twinking or general curiosity), you can use the LINK button at the top of this item page to link the item in-game: the WoW client will automatically scale the item stats down to your character's level for you. This works with all the other Heirloom items as well.

Steps in case you are unfamiliar with how to use Wowhead item links:

Click the link button above, there will be a popup window with some automatically highlighted text.
Copy the text (Windows: Ctrl-C, Mac: Cmd-C) and close the popup window.
Open (or switch to) WoW and press Enter to open up your chat dialog.
Paste the code into the box (Windows: Ctrl-V, Mac: Cmd-V) and press Enter.
A message in white text will appear in your chat log followed by an item link.
You can click this link to view the details and can Ctrl-click it to view it on your character.

Thanks goes to mynameiscoffey for creating the helpful "how to" steps, original comment found here.

Комментарий от YuriElite

I've just checked myself what the stats look like for a level 19 if you were thinking of twinking and the stats look like this.

19 level stats.

So comparing this with the Venomstrike it gives greater damage, it even has a critical strike rating of 1 where the Venomstrike doesn't so it's pretty dam neat.

Комментарий от 148247

Has anyone tested what scope you're able to apply to this bow? Since other heirlooms can have any pre-TBC enchant, is this scope able to have a Sniper Scope, giving it +7 damage, and then be used by a 19 twink? Or even a new Heartseeker Scope with 40 crit rating? Or no scope at all?

Комментарий от 252702

Got this confirmed by a GM, they act like ilvl 1 equipment. So limited to pre-bc enhancements.

Комментарий от 254241

Did anyone try to add a scope to this weapon? If so, which is the best one you can put onto it without it becoming a higher level req, if there even is one?

Комментарий от 253606

Hunter Twinks: At 29 this bow has 7 more RAP, .5% more hit, and .35% more crit than the Master Hunter's Bow, however it is .1 speed slower and has an 80 damage top end versus 96 for the quest reward. I haven't done the math with respect to whether that's an overall damage increase, but it will have to do with the ability to add scopes. If it's limited to ilvl requirement 1 scopes, then the Master Hunter's Bow beats it out by a large margin after applying a +7.

It may be worth it if you've levelled beyond the ability to get that quest reward for the 29 bracket.

I would also recommend checking out the DHC BoA version as well, if you're a guns type of person.

Комментарий от 237388

I was not even able to put a lowly Sniper Scope on this weapon. Since it counts as both Equip lv1 and iLvl 1, I'm assuming you can't put a scope on it at all since even the lowest lv req. Crude Scope requires lv5.

Комментарий от 251369

If blizzard allows people to put +15 agi and other Level 1 Enchants on the weapons, I'm sure in the future they will allow or reduce the level of Scope Requirments. It's not equal to have (One) Item have more power then another.

Комментарий от 274742

i understand this item and the other bind to account items scale but as you lvl you character does the item need to have anything done to it so that it stays current with the lvl of your toon (i.e does it rescale automatically)
could i also use this item with a toon say in the morning then send it to another toon for couple hours then send it back

my limited understanding of this subject leads me to believe that therotically i wouldnt have to buy a new wepon ever after getting this bow as it rescales to any toon im using it on is this correct or am i not on the right path at all?

Комментарий от 239695

You won't need to get a new weapon until you hit 80. Even at that point these weapons will hold out quite a ways, but will ultimately be beaten by heroic/raid/crafted epics.

Комментарий от 276972

I need confirmation on this:

If I place a Heartseeker Scope(Requires Level 70) onto this bow, can I still send this and USE this on my lvl 38 hunter? I know the bow will will be lvl 38, of course, but will I be able to use it, with that scope attached?

Комментарий от nikae22

I have a quite strange experience with this bow, my steady shots hit for less than my autoshots which would be impossible. Anyone having an idea why it is so, did experience the same or knows a solution?

Комментарий от Grakkh

Oooh so THAT is why steady shot doesn't seem as good as I've heard it should be and isn't doing the portion of my damage I was expecting it to while leveling my hunter (also as compared to seeing how it worked for hunters of my guild). Kinda silly, as I leveled from 29 to 74 with it so far. But this Steady Shot issue is a much, much bigger issue than the ability to use scopes, and I wonder if it's going to be fixed at any point, or if it is intended for some odd reason. I hadn't realized this was the reason for the low SS damage, because I hadn't use any other ranged weapons since I got this bow.

Just to give an example, I did a quick and really dirty field test (during which I managed to kill a rare in Coldarra without realizing it was rare, earning my Northern Exposure While at it) with a small sample size, I found the following (at level 74):
- G.E.H.T.A gun (76.5 DPS, 3.0 speed) with Impact Shot (22 DPS), average non-crit Steady Shot damage was roughly 570
- Charmed Ancient Bone Bow (94 DPS, 2.8 speed) with Blackflight Arrow (32 DPS), average non-crit Steady Shot damage was roughly 500

Given the 2-second cast time, that's a roughly 35 DPS difference, not to mention when factoring in crits and such. Given the discrepancy between ammo DPS and the small sample size (and that I started testing with low gun skill), it really isn't all that accurate, but it does point out that things aren't as you'd expect. With the gun, I did more overall damage %-wise with SS than Auto Shot, but with the bow, I did more with AS.

Definitely a dissappointing discovery, and means hunter alts might want to look elsewhere for ranged leveling weapons unless this gets fixed. It is still usable of course, and especially being BM I had no troubles with it given the pet is such a big part of my damage, but even so it's disappointing to find this out. Too bad I vendored Fury of the Raging Dragon before finding out about this. I guess I'll wait out for the bow from Hemet quests...

P.S. Made a ticket about this, and the GM said that while they didn't have any "investigations" about this particular item, they were looking into some other similar reports on other items. So, no definite answer from there.

P.P.S. Some further numbers - at 76, when this bow is 98 base DPS, for me it hits for about 590 per Steady Shot, while the Dragon Slayer's Shortbow (93.6 DPS) hits for about 725. Quite a difference.

Комментарий от karlusdavius

BoA heirloom items do not have durability, therefor do not need repairing.

Комментарий от JannikN

still no blue response about this bow getting fixed? i dont want to spend emblems on it if its still bugged

Комментарий от 207838

Here's my question: With leveling hunter being easy street as is and actually leveling up to 70 being stupid easy, does the loss of dps really matter when you have a weapon that you wont need to replace? I mean I see where you are coming from from a twink stand point, but this is just a badgedump for leveling an alt. And i think it serves that purpose. Its not meant to make you top DPS charts in Wailing Caverns...

Комментарий от 257637

Disregarding the scope issue for hunters, the stats bonuses on this item are still nice for a rogue or warrior twink -- assuming you have the emblems to burn.

Комментарий от 196073

Of the 3 weapons at lvl 19 what is the best for a hunter twink
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=44093
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=6469
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=42946

Комментарий от B3y0nd

Confirmed... steady shot seems to scale off of the level 1 damage instead of your current level.

Confirmed, this bow becomes useless at level 50 when steady shot is introduced as a large portion of your dps.

Комментарий от Sylan

Wow well that sucks, I decided to dust off my level 50 hunter and I bought this bow. I wish I had came here and read the comments first. 65 badges down the drain. :(

Комментарий от darknesscalls

Steady shot being based off the lvl1 Bow damage was a bug that was REPORTED on the PTR forums and RESPONDED and ACKNOWLEDGED by a blue poster that they would look into it, yet it is still bugged in 3.0.8.

/sigh

Комментарий от 311917

is it still bugged in 3.0.9?

Комментарий от darknesscalls

This bow is STILL bugged in 3.1 PTR

Wow....

Комментарий от 95657

so is there ANY enchant i can put on this? even if its only like a +1 damage scope? i figured anything is better than nothing

Комментарий от TeeWee

Just talked to a GM about the bug a couple of minutes ago.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1365/wowscrnshot031609204335.jpg

According to him, it'll be fixed in the next patch.

For those of you who don't want to click the link:

: Game Master Wixibixe at your service!
: It appears there is indeed a problem with Bind on Account bows for hunters however, this is scheduled to be fixed in the next patch.
: Oh, really?
: My apologies for the inconvenience caused but if you can be a bit patient, it should be fixed soon.
: Didn't see anything about it in the patch notes ^^
: Well, the patch notes are far from finished!:)
: Hehe
: Any idea on when the patch will be arriving? =P
: And even then, most bug fixes don't make it on there as that would make them insanely long:D
: Soon™

Комментарий от Shorty

No, you can't put scopes on this, but this is still a solid weapon for leveling a hunter because it scales and you don't have to keep replacing it; and because it has some stats on it that are hard to find at low levels.

The steady shot thing sucks, but 1-49 it's probably pretty solid. And hey, it's getting fixed!

(Notice: If you get this, mail it to a level 1 hunter, and notice that half the stats are gone, don't panic. It only has AP at level 1 stats and starts getting hit/crit later on.)

Комментарий от Acetylcholine

According to the latest PTR patch notes found on MMO-Champion, the Steady Shot bug is fixed.

Steady Shot: Now does correct damage with heirloom weapons.

Комментарий от PizzaMan

Can you cite a source for this?

As of the current 3.1 PTR build, I was able to apply a Heartseeker Scope to this item and the crit rating is active even at level 1--or at the very least, it was reflected on the character sheet of a level 1 hunter that I had created (lol @ 77.71% crit chance!)

I did not have any other scopes on hand to test with but I assume any of the other scopes will work just as well.

EDIT:

I tried putting Greater Savagery on the Arcanite Reaper heirloom and no dice.

Комментарий от 341327

Any1 knows the stats for this item in lvl 19? :P

Комментарий от Kaneshiro88

Am currently using a +40 Ranged Crit scope on this bow, i was able to apply the scope (bought from AH) to the bow on my hunter at level 72. Just gonna say that again so people understand me clearly.

- Bought the +40 ranged crit scope from ah
- Applied scope to the bow on my hunter, my hunter being level 72 at the time

No mailing to higher level characters to get the enchant to work, no trade window enchants. It went on with no errors or issues at all

http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Skullcrusher&n=Phapp

Strangely enough, the Heartseekers (BoA Daggers) will not accept a +50ap enchant, so am stuck with the +15 agi on each of them.

Комментарий от Ssateneth

As of 3.1.1 (build 9835) https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=41167 can still be placed on this bow. The crit rating from aforementioned scope also still works at any level.

Комментарий от Chocopie

I bought this and put a Heartseeker Scope on it from my Level 80 Warlock and then sent it over to my Level 42 Hunter.

So for those wondering if you can put that scope on it, you can.

Комментарий от foam

Can anyone confirm if the scope still works after 3.1.2?

Patch notes:

Most scopes now have a level requirement and will bind the item to which they are applied.

Комментарий от Dirkster

Khorium Scope can be applied to this weapon. I tried the Diamond-cut Refractor Scope but that just gives the message "Target is too low level". I think the Stabilized Eternium Scope can also be attached to it, but I don't have a spare one lying around.

EDIT: Got the recipe for Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope tonight, made one, and yes it can be applied to the Charmed Ancient Bone Bow!

Комментарий от 325521

is this bow worth getting to level a hunter? its kinda weak

Комментарий от 400357

as I'm leveling a troll huntard at the moment, I'm curious to know what a decent upgrade for this would be once I manage to get my hunter to 80.

Комментарий от 347471

This has to be one of the ugliest bows in the game.

Комментарий от Vaziel

Back before ZG there was like, 5 bow models in game and this was by far the coolest, most unique one besides Rhok'delar and maybe something that dropped in BWL that I never saw. Personally I cant think of better bow for them to "bring back" as an heirloom.

Комментарий от 311173

The listed Dps for this thing must be off

Комментарий от Liquoid

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=42946
O_O

we'll have to wait and see the stats on live.

Комментарий от cechjakpoleno

All scopes now have "Requires Level xx" and can be attached to BoA bow, but will simply not work and will show "Enchantment requires level xx".

Комментарий от Milker

It's 108.something damage per second ! lvl 80, not the 219.8 damage per second that it shows here

Комментарий от 64303

I don't know what everyone is saying with this being fixed, it isn't. Autoshot still out damaged steady shot while using this bow. I finally put in a ticket to get a refund on emblems. Now I can at least get some epic gems or something. Very sad this bow never worked.

Комментарий от 8153

I began tracking the difference in DPS compared to normal Auto-Shots. I recorded this data on my level 64 BM Hunter using two different bows.

Using Charmed Ancient Bone Bow for about 100 shots:

Auto Shot: Average Damage: 313
Steady Shot: Average Damage: 305
Difference: ~3% damage

Using Light Bow for about 100 shots:

Auto Shot: Average Damage: 133
Steady Shot: Average Damage: 220
Difference: ~40% damage

This is still a useful bow for leveling, but Steady Shot is doing about 40% less damage than intended. You may consider switching to Fury of the Raging Dragon once you reach Northrend and the DPS tradeoff becomes substantial.

UPDATE: Since then I've gotten to level 70 and tested this bow against Fury of the Raging Dragon. Surprisingly, the bow came out on top in terms of overall damage but Steady Shot still did less damage than Auto Shot. I'm starting to wonder if this lack of damage comes from the spell itself and not from the Bow,.

Комментарий от Kuuskutonen

343 spellpower on this hmm...

I want this for my lock for wand replacement! Gief bows for warlocks!

Комментарий от Harpy87

And my only question is: "Why Spellpower on what seems to be a hunter/rogue/warrior weapon?" I still haven't deducted the use of that stat. Please enlighten me =)

Комментарий от 487485

Does the item level stay at 1 for the equipment acheivements? i.e. if you have this item at 80th, does it count as a 213 item for purposes of the superior and epic equipment acheivements?

Комментарий от 470626

How good is this bow for leveling? As in, it's going to be the ONLY thing I level with :*(

edit - Damn, can't send the shoulders via mail :*( Different BG I think. Just the damn bow then! Does it do insanely good damage or should I just buy some BoE ones every now and again?

Комментарий от 561000

i went and made an account just so i can clear up this nonsense about steady shot not doing as much damage as your auto shot.

1) any hunter that is just spamming steady shot is a fool (your the reason why we're called huntards).
2) of course its going to be lower then your auto shot damage in a pve situation because your not wasting all your gcds on steady shot.
3) going and sitting on a target dummy for an X amount of time to test this weapon against say an icc weapon or the like is worthless course the amounts are going to be different. this bow wasn't given to us for end game raiding it was meant for those of us who like to spoil our alts.

On the topic that its steady shot damage is lower, nerfed, or just isnt working who cares. Blizz gave us a new toy to waste badges on imo that's great having nothing to waste them on in game. Just be happy that you have a new toy for your noob hunter and forget about it.

side note best scope to put on this for twinks if thats what your getting it for is the plus 3 damage one i dont remember what its called though if i recall ill edit the post.

Комментарий от ZeroX0X

Steady shot is meant to be a filler shot, not something you spam. you use it while waiting for your main shot to come off of CD.

Комментарий от 603558

Hello

I am a 80 shaman and I'd like to buy this item for my second hunter reroll... But it seems that it does not allow me to purchase it. Do you know if there is any workaround for this problem (ie a shaman buying this item)?

I hope there is one :-)

Комментарий от dreadblood

I take it you have the marks, though class has no effect on whether you can buy it or not

Комментарий от 324197

Transferred this from my Horde Paladin to my Alliance Hunter on the same server. Also, this bow is absolutely broken for the first twenty levels or so, especially if you're beastmaster and have a pet tank multiple mobs.

Комментарий от 614832

hmmm.....

I thought ALL heirlooms were supposed to be ugly...
this one looks cool though

Комментарий от 618906

This bow's model looks pretty awesome.

Комментарий от Lancis

You may also send heirlooms to characters on your account with a different faction.

Комментарий от Kortash

So how does one get this bow now that Emblems of Heroism are not available as quest rewards on WOTLK 3.4, except in a very few cases?

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