The elitest jerks guys were nice enough to figure out how much armor bosses have.
See thread here. Apparently, via beast lore and something other testing they have come up with this.

Now!

15.4 Armor Penetration Rating = 1% armor ignored.
Boss Armor 13083.
1% ArP = 130.83 Armor Ignored.

After full raid debuffs it comes out to...
79.98 Armor Ignored = 15.4 ArP = 1%

The ArP on this ring basically gives 212.5 armor ignored. Again, with full raid debuffs.

What does it all mean? ArP sucks. The bread and butter of this ring is the Agility, Attack Power, and yellow socket.

Edit: ArP isn't so bad anymore. =P

Комментарий от 274663

armor penetration sucks, really bad. not a bad addition though, seeing as though even without the armor penetration, this ring is still nice. was a killer farming for the dragon's eyes though.

Комментарий от 32660

Undoubtedly the worst ilvl200 epic ring, bar none. Considering how many stats are completely wasted on armor penetration, you're much better off farming the epic ring in H Gundrak, or just spending the extra 5000g or so (depending how expensive Dragons Eyes are on your server, they're 500g a pop on mine) on the Dalaran ring. Plus, I'll bet it's a pain finding a JC who bothered to waste 6 days worth of dailies to get plans for it at this point in the game.

As Dean Wermer would have said, "Fat, drunk, and boasting about your 41 armor penetration epic ring is no way to go into Naxx, son."

Комментарий от 134789

can craft on Horde side of Bronzebeard FTW

pst Happygilmor

Комментарий от 277858

APR is definitely not the greatest DPS stat in the game, but it is far from useless. For many specs, especially rogues and fury warriors, it is a little better then attack power. Also, the down voted comment below is correct, the overall impact of a single point of APR increases with the total APR you currently have. This is due to the equation M = (AC)/(AC + 467.5*L - 22167.5). Where M is mitigation, AC is armor class, and L is the mobs level. What this formula means is that the lower the mobs AC is, the bigger benefit it gets from AC. Thus if you are already ignoring a large portion of a mobs AC, if you ignore even more you gain a bigger benefit.

The point is that not many people would say that this ring sucked if it had 125 bonus attack power and no APR, but for many classes (Warriors, Rogues, and blood Death Knights) APR is as good or slightly better than attack power. The ring is easy to obtain, and much cheaper than the Dalaran ring. It's a good investment for a physical DPS class that want to be competitive in Naxx quickly.

Комментарий от 176381

I think this is also a great ring for BM hunters, as in raids most of our damage is physical (as opposed to MM hunters who do alot of magic damage). True I do love attack power (and always choose high agility items), but I'm trying to stack as much ArP as I can, while some of my marks buddies are stacking haste.

Комментарий от 274182

Funnily enough, for Ret Paladins, the blue level 78 Jewelcrafting ring, https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43251, is actually better for DPS than this one. Unsure if this is true for other melee classes.

Комментарий от Goggy

Managed to pick one up from the AH on Twilight's Hammer for 14g, very pleased!

Комментарий от 142549

For any warriors either Arms or Fury also stacking ArP for ulduar this ring is great to replace Ring of Invincibility or Ruthlessness with (to dual equip with sarth 2d 10 man ring)

I just re gem'd for full armor pen and am nearing 35% in fury,45% in arms respectively w/o mace spec and the dps increase is amazing to say the least.

Комментарий от arrh

this trinket from naxx25, i think its from gluth

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=40256

really improves my dps as a lvl 80 orc hunter. with the effect on i get up to 60% ArP. can you say imba?

Комментарий от 182184

4th best ring pre-Ulduar for a dps warrior. Most likely wont get replaced for a very long time. https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/items=4.-2&filter=minle=175;maxle=213;wt=100:20:114:96:21:117:77:119:103;wtv=200:10:9:8:7:6:4:3:3

Комментарий от Themainman

It may be a little of topic, but since 3.1 how much good is ArP for assassination rogues?

Комментарий от Kabi

Pvp Rogue maybe?

I have seen a good number of agi items with ArP maybe blizzard is trying to say

hey rogues you have problems against plates right? maybe you should try using some ArP

Комментарий от sorsa

This rings regains in value rapidly if you are an Armor Pen stacking maniac like me. Because quite simply, ArP scales wonderfully with itself and I just must have more...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This item is included in the Death Knight Pre-Raid DPS Gear Guide at DeathKnightArmy.com.

It shows you items you can get fairly easily before raiding to boost your DPS.

"Below is a sample listing of the Gear which a Death Knight would want to get to begin their Journey into Naxxramas 10. I've included several items which can be attained through Normal Dungeons, Heroic Dungeons and Crafting. I've also put in some quest rewards if no better drops are available from Normal Mode dungeons."

Here are all of the items listed for Fingers:

Rings
Heroic - Mobius Band
Heroic - Band of Frosted Thorns
Heroic - Hemorrhaging Circle
Crafted - Windfire Band
Crafted - Titanium Impact Band

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Managed to pick one of these up from the AH for 14g this morning, don't know whether the guy who listed was drunk or didn't care, but god bless him!

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