These are a rep turn-in for Kurenai(Alliance), Mag'har(Horde), and the Consortium(Neutral).

You need ten of each for each turn-in. It would be best (IMO) to do both of the starter quests your faction and the Consortium as those award XP and rep. Then, save them for whichever you think will be more useful to grind rep.

In my case (as a warrior who likes stamina and a dwarf hunter who likes guns), this is the Consortium. I'm not worried about getting rep for the Kurenai as neither of my toon's professions or is greatly aided by the Kurenai rewards.

Комментарий от 9857

Dropping at a roughly 1/3 (33%) drop rate, these obsidian beads are used to turn in for reputation. They give 500 per 10.

Kurenai reputation is primarily used to obtain the special epic mount - a "Talbuk"

Комментарий от 21585

Assuming you start at 0/12000 honored, to grind ogres to exalted would take roughly 1238 kills.

MATH:
Honored rep (12k) + Revered rep (21k) = 33k Rep Points
Drop Rate on Ogres (33%), 10 rep per ogre, 500 rep per Turn-in.
So, about 30 kills per turn-in, that's 300 rep (kills) + 500 rep (turn-in) = 800 rep for 30 kills, so...

33,000 divided by 800 rep = 41.25
41.25 x 30 kills = 1237.5 or 1238 Ogre Kills.

:)

Комментарий от 20647

You get quite a bit of rep from quests too. I think getting rep with the Kurenai (for Alliance anywas) is a peice of cake (or pie) compared to any other rep grind in the game. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to stealth nerf it, it's that easy. Would be really nice if some of the other rep grinds were this easy...or at least more fun.

Комментарий от 41559

Complete all the quests for the Kurinai in Zangarmarsh and then in Nagrand itself, completed all the chains, and after that had to start grinding the ogres for the beads, and for the 10 beads in a stack to turn in multiple sets.. remember that it will be 10 rep for kill as stated above, in a party of 2 or more people you kill more ogres, and faster bead acquisition.. if you are a druid, id recommend you are feral :) makes things go faster....

Комментарий от 42872

got 30 of them from killing 80 ogres so somewhat of a decent drop rate about 38% drop rate

Комментарий от CynicalBear

Each of the warbeards x10 give 500 Reputation for Kurenai.
This is atleast like that for my Night Elf hunter and been so ever since Friendly and all the way to Revered (still works while revered)

Комментарий от crescentwindx

An important note that has been so far totally ignored in these comments is that Zaxxis Insignias in Netherstorm are an easier way to rep up with Consortium than the warbeads are, because they drop more frequently (Insignias drop around 50% of the time, while warbeads drop roughly 33% of the time).

So no, it's not a total waste to use the warbeads for Kurenai or Mag'har, especially if you're like me and think talbuks are more or less the best thing since sliced bread (and are on a server where Halaa is contested maybe once a month).

Комментарий от 65452

Everyone here seems to completely ignore the talbuk aspect of the Kurenai/Mag'har factions. Remember, this is a game and if you want a talbuk and you want to get it fast by turning these in instead of stiffly maximizing your reputation gain you ARE allowed to so.
Its about fun, not efficiency, remember?

Комментарий от 88801

Also whats great about grinding on the ogres is that you get oshu'gun powder which you can turn into Halaa for research tokens (when your faction has control). that gives you some great rewards

Комментарий от dJe781

The best grinding spot for affliction warlocks is the cave at (40,32). No self-healing mobs and interruptable frost mages (instead of shamans which use totems or Earth shock). Also, mobs are little bit more near from each other, which allows you to "Tab & DoT" in a more efficient way, especially if you're using Darkmoon Card: Crusade

Комментарий от 120053

The drop rate is about 33%. Thast one drop per three kills. One kill awards ~1000 exp and ~10 Kurenai/Mag'Har honor.

For ten of these that would mean 30 kills. That is ~30k exp and ~300 honor.
And when you turn them in an extra 500 honor.

These are defintly worth grinding. Especially good if you combine it with those quest involving the Warmaul tribe

Комментарий от 131564

anyone done the math on consortium from friendly-MAX with warbeads? i suck in math .

Комментарий от 133236

At what level can you start to turn in the beads? I'm at lv 61, with 68 beads at hand, and I can't seem to turn them in. Is there a level requirement?

Thank you

Комментарий от 114755

any ideas wheres its best to grind these as a fire mage?

Комментарий от 103638

Up to 10,000 rep for a 200 stack turn in.

200 Divided by 10 = 20
20x500= 10,000

33 % chance to drop off ogres.

200x3 = 600 ogres to get 200 Beads and + the 10 rep bonus from 600 kills(10x600) = 6,000 + 10,000 = 16,000.

Good luck!

Комментарий от Kiayateo

I did the calculation for me since I wanted to get to Revered With Consortium and Exalted with Kurenai so see how many Ogres I would need to kill.

So assuming starting at 0/12000 Honored with both you would need
12000 Consortium divided by 250 a turn in = 48 Turn ins * 10 Warbeads/Turn in= 480 Warbeads
480 Warbeads * 3 Orges/Warbead = 1440 Orges

Now you will have gained 14400 Kurenai rep by grinding Consortium so you will only need 18600 to reach exalted.

Figuring 800 Rep a turn in from an above post you would need 18600 rep divided by 800 rep/turn in = 23.25 turn ins.

23.25 turn ins * 30 Ogres/Turn In = 697.5 ~ 698 Ogres.

Adding those together you will need 2138 Ogres to get Exalted with Kurenai and Revered with Consortium.

I'm 810/12000 for Consortium and 918/21000 for Kurensi so I have 1594 Orges left to kill.....*sigh*

Комментарий от Yofi

To chip in on the number crunching, if anyone's curious…

500 per Kurenai turn-in of 10 beads = 50 rep per bead

and 33% droprate off all ogres

…means that the bead turn-in adds about 16⅔ rep to each ogre kill.

So as you're killing, imagine you're gaining 26⅔ rep each instead of 10! :D

Комментарий от 201210

Always be sure to read (thoroughly) what's written on WoWhead before you try and farm. I made the -stupidest- mistake by mis-reading what was written.

the first numbers I saw pop up were ''250'', so I assumed 250 rep / 10 beads for Kurenai!

Let's just say, I got 100 beads more than required.

Also, if you're farming for Consortium rep, go south of Area 52 in Netherstorm and kill the Zaxxis raiders. they have a higher drop rate on their insignias than the ogres do for the beads. Plus, along with the random key (these come along quite often when AoEing big groups), that's MORE rep, free items AND you have a chance of getting rep with other factions (you may free a trapper Keeper of time NPC, for example, and get rep for them). Also, if you have any other people in the group, be sure to have them tag along when opening the Prisons. they get rep too!

Комментарий от 176208

I've been grinding these off boulderfist ogres and the drop rate appears to be much lower than in the past. When I did the exalted grind they were dropping at 33%. It seems much lower now I kill 5-6 mobs for one. It's been like this for days now. It's becoming a pain.

Комментарий от 185864

A great place to farm the warbeads is at 62, 73. I tried this place out just a second ago, and my first 5 dropped Obsidian Warbeads AND Oshu'gun Crystal Powder Samples. After those 5, it started to slow down to every other one, but this is way faster than any other ogres I have seen so far.

Комментарий от Firre

I use to farm these beads in Nagrand when i had to get both Mag'har and Consortium rep.
I figured out that I could kill 1 mod in about 30 sec. (with rest/eating time) on my rogue.

So remembering this:
10 Mag'har rep pr. mob
33% chance to get beads on mobs

I came up with this:
Farming pr. 1 hour (120 mobs) = 1200 Mag'har rep + 1000 Consortium rep (about 40 beads = 4 turn ins at Consortium).

Комментарий от RingK

But if you are collecting rep for both factions and start 0/12000 Honored with both, you would need to kill:

3.960 mobs to get Exalted with both
2.138 mobs to get Exalted with Kurenai/Mag'har and Revered with Consortium

Happy hunting :b

Calculations if you are interested: ^^
Kurenai/Mag'har
10 rep / kill (without turn-ins) OR (80/3) rep / kill (with turn-ins)
Consortium
~1/3*25 rep / kill ( I hate decimals)
= 25/3 rep / kill

Kurenai/Mag'har to Exalted
33.000 / 10 = 3.300 kills
Consortium to Exalted
33.000 / (25/3) = 3960 kills
Consortium to Revered
12.000 / (25/3) = 1440 kills

1440 kills = 14400 rep for Kurenai/Mag'har
2400/21000 Revered to Exalted is 18600 rep
18.600 / (80/3) = 698 kills
1440 kills + 698 kills = 2137,5 = ~2138 kills

Комментарий от 254687

Way easy to farm as a death knight, you dont need food or water, just kill kill kill. hehe.

^-^ happy farming guys.

Комментарий от 241776

The drop rate off the Warmaul ogres seems to be much worse than 33%, maybe 20% now. Grinding these is hard work.

Комментарий от phantomeagle

I find it far easier, after lvl 70, to fly around to all the spots that have the Ogres. With my DK, who's got mining and Skinning, I find it easier to keep moving and not wait for respawn of ore. I also find that I don't need to wait at all for mobs to respawn. I can easily get 2k faction in just a couple hours or work, without turn ins. I also get stacks of ore to boot.

Комментарий от DrMrsTheMonarch

I found that the Burning Blade Ruins at was a little hard to navigate quickly in order to clear the area efficiently.

I found the best source I found for farming these beads was to clear the two caves at and . Once you are done clearing one, just mount up and fly to the other. They should be respawned once you are ready to head back. There are also some fast respawns for some of the mobs, sometimes popping up the second you finish killing the previous mob.

If you don't have a navigation system with coordinates, get one. In the meantime you can find these two caves in the trenches North and Southeast of Halaa. They aren't marked with names on your map, but they are marked as cave openings.

Also consider collecting Oshu'gun Crystal Powder Samples to turn in for Halaa Research Tokens (if your faction controls Halaa). If you're level 80, most of the gear you can buy with them is pretty useless to you, but a nice 18 slot bag can be bought for just 8 of these. The vendor that sells this is Quartermaster Davian Vaclav for when alliance controls Halaa, and Quartermaster Jaffrey Noreliqe when horde does.

This grind also yields a truckload of netherweave cloth, sometimes 3 pieces per ogre. You're guaranteed to make a decent chunk of change from this on AH on top the money from vendoring all the greens you'll get as drops. This is overall a worthwhile rep grind. On top of that, you get a talbuk mount when exalted, which is the whole reason I'm doing this.

Happy hunting. :)

Комментарий от 218218

I'm not sure if this is a fluke or not, but mage and warrior boulderfist in the southwind cleft seemed to have a higher droprate than other ogres. When grinding in the burning blade ruins, it took me a full half hour to get only 6 beads, when in southwind cleft I got a stack of 10 within 10 minutes. The area also seems less populated than others.

Edit: The southwind cleft totalled to 29 in one half hour.

Комментарий от 303838

note that this item seems to have a hidden max in inventory limit of 50. Was killing ogres and wondering why i wasn't getting any drops. I looked in my inventory and found it curious that i was sitting on exactly 50. I killed about 50 boulderfist ogres and got no drops. Went and turned some in, as soon as i did they started dropping at their regular 33% rate

Комментарий от 336018

This rep group is a great source for the mount achievement(s). You will be able to buy 8 epic ground mounts total for Mag'har I'm sure, probably the same for alliance though too.

Комментарий от 348922

I started out as a lvl 66 DK, about 80% of the way through. I was at Honored. I farmed about 50 Warbeads in an hour and turned those in for Revered.

For Revered, I did the same thing, only on a MUCH larger scale.

By the end, I was almost lvl 68, and had earned over 150g! I also got the achievement for Got My Mind On My Money!

I found that Warbeads seemed to drop a lot faster at the Southwind Cleft than the Ruins or Northwind.

Happy hunting.

Комментарий от Lythoras

I took detailed notes on six occassions so that I could report drop rates here. All three locations are in Nagrand.

1. Laughing Skull Ruins:
-Killed 67 Ogres
-Looted 30 Obsidian Warbeads (44% drop rate)
-Looted 13 Oshu'gun Crystal Powder Samples (19% drop rate)
-Looted 56 Netherweave Cloth (84% drop rate)

2. Southwind Cleft:
-Killed 50 Ogres
-Looted 13 Obsidian Warbeads (26% drop rate)
-Looted 5O Oshu'gun Crystal Powder Samples (10% drop rate)
-Looted 39 Netherweave Cloth (78% drop rate)

3. Back to Laughing Skull Ruins:
-Killed 50 Ogres
-Looted 21 Obsidian Warbeads (42% drop rate)
-Looted 10 Oshu'gun Crystal Powder Samples (20% drop rate)
-Looted 40 Netherweave Cloth (80% drop rate)

4. Back to Southwind Cleft:
-Killed 47 Ogres
-Looted 13 Obsidian Warbeads (27% drop rate)
-Looted 9 Oshu'gun Crystal Powder Samples (19% drop rate)
-Looted 34 Netherweave Cloth (72% drop rate)

5. Northwind Cleft:
-Killed 48 Ogres
-Looted 14 Obsidian Warbeads (29% drop rate)
-Looted 5 Oshu'gun Crystal Powder Samples (10% drop rate)
-Looted 32 Netherweave Cloth (66% drop rate)

6. Back to Laughing Skull Ruins:
-Killed 59 Ogres
-Looted 16 Obsidian Warbeads (27% drop rate)
-Looted 10 Oshu'gun Crystal Powder Samples (16% drop rate)
-Looted 30 Netherweave Cloth (51% drop rate)

Except for the last time I went to Laughing Skull Ruins, all other visits there yielded better drop rates for all three items compared to Southwind and Northwind Clefts. The Ogres drop other items, too, but I did not record them.

Комментарий от sunako

Btw.. for Mag'har rep, you turn it in to Warden Bullrok at 56, 38 in Garadar.

Комментарий от Alannaaa

Alot of you will probably disagree with me here :P Just an observation I've made because I'm grinding rep with the Kurenai.

But I've noticed the ogres in Nagrand, up near the ring of blood at around 46,20 seem to have more obsidian warbeads than the ogres at Burning blade ruins 76,65. It's not because there may be more or less ogres in those areas, They just seem to drop alot less lol.

Just my opinion :P But I suppose it depends on the person farming them lol.

xx

Комментарий от 268034

Well i didnt really mind to grind this rep but since im a DK 80Level and i got the DK Mount all along a talbuk would be nice :) Drop Rate is about 33-44%(Drops every 3 Kill,every 4 now and then) and about 25-50gold farm from killing the ogres(Since also drops cloths and uncommon items)

My Tactic as a Frost///UH Deathknight : Rush to points where major amount of agres are rush in with a HB and go on on about 10-15 ogres pop DnD and IT > Pestilence then HB and all of em dead :)

As Rogue : Use FoK Glyph rush in while pulling about 5 ogres shoot 1 FoK(about 10sec after pull) go on with about 20ogres and do a FoK Spamm with evsion on(only if 20ogres or more) try to run up and down to divide the ogres for eayest looting and use Intant pioson as Combat and Deadly(orly) as Assa

One of the easiest rep grinds in comaprison to wintespring or Sons of hodir

Happy Grinding

Комментарий от asloversgo

The best place, in my opinion, to farm these is in the Laughing Skull Ruins. It's very big, has a lot of ogres, and if you start at an end and work your way through to the other end, the ogres from the start has probably respawned. This means endless killing, which will be faster than if you have to wait for spawn inside the other places, which mostly are caves.

Комментарий от Toadkiller

Level 80 plus you want to hand in beads for mag'har rep and do Auchenai for Consortium rep.

Комментарий от 339992

I found the best place to farm these is Southwind Cleft. The respawn rate is ridiculously high. Even 2-shotting them at 80, they still respawned fast enough for me to grind that one area enough beads to reach exalted with both Mag'har and Consortium. Drop rate is pretty decent, too. On higher populated servers, you'd probably have to move between the other cave, and possible other Ogre camps if someone else is in the area.

Комментарий от 529338

Recently i was farming more beads and wasn't getting any powder drops. I looted over 30 beads, but not a single powder. At the time, i had a stack of 100 powder in my bags. Im thinking that the powder stops dropping if you have a full stack in your possession, and because of this, the rate of bead drops is increased. Just a theory, need to get another stack of 100 powders to test this.

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Комментарий от Thottbot

In about a half hour of grinding these in laughing skull ruins I got 21 warbeads, and 20 netherweave cloth. I found that the shamans are very easy and quick to kill and the drop rate isn't too bad. I'll be grinding these to get exalted.

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