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Comentado por 191502

It's the temple with the snakes entwined around the pillars.

Comentado por narub

its easly to find, just head northeast, but for ppl in trouble, mapscreenshot
http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot091608081531kq2.jpg

altho its not snakes entwined on the temple pillars, its briarthorns just like the ones that are abundant in the barrens, exept that these are back instead of brown :)

Comentado por Mumpley

Great End to a fantastic storyline. If you noticed though this questline follows Norse Mythology perfect.

Thor,God of Thunder had a wife called Sif and a Hammer named Mjolnir. Thorim also has a wife named Sif and a hammer called Krolmir. Loki,God Of Trickery was Thor's Brother. He was a master of shape-shifting and would Trick many people. Most known among the Norse God's as a liar. Wow Introduces Loken as Thorim's Brother and just as the Myth goes,he disguised himself and you. Some players may then call Loken a Liar,then?

Though I love how Blizz incorperated Norse Myth into this questline. Really nice and greatly done.

Comentado por gennym

Coords are 36, 32 the temple has thorns all around the pillars and stone.

Comentado por 226771

I totally agree - this quest line has been designed very carefully and beautifully. I also like the fact that the players' meddling with the lifes of gods does work well. When you mess around with higher powers, your intent doesn't matter much, you will be likely to fail either way.

Comentado por madmartigen

Can someone link where this quest chain begins?

Comentado por 254867

Good chain indeed.

After the fight Loken mentions he was waiting in that mine for weeks. Now reread The Crone's Bargain.

Lok'lira as in Loken
"Among my people I am known as a Yrkvinn, a practitioner of illusions."

And as Mumpley wrote earlier:

Loki,God Of Trickery was Thor's Brother. He was a master of shape-shifting and would Trick many people.

I encourage you to find more clues like this :)

Comentado por Omegastar

Spoiler alert! Spoiler alert!

In the dialogue, Loken mentions having plans for Thorim and special plans for the broodmother, Veranus. Since neither appear in Halls of Lightning, i speculate that they have been taken further into Ulduar, and will be part of the upcoming raid there. Veranus will most likely be a raid-boss. Thorim might be corrupted by Yogg-sharon( Lokens master), just as Yogg-sharon did to Loken, in which you would have to defeat him, or he might be imprisoned, in which you would have to free him.

Comentado por 204550

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/npc=30399 is link to where you have to go.

Comentado por Blackboy0

!SPOILER ALERT!

I've hidden from my destiny long enough. What I must do has never been clearer.

Loken must be destroyed by my hand.

Thorim says: It is time I put an end to my brother's madness.
Thorim yells: Loken!
Thorim yells: Stand up and fight me, you worthless traitor!
Loken says: You seem eager to join your beloved Sif, brother.
Thorim says: Do not dare...
Thorim says: Speak...
Thorim says: Her name!
Loken yells: ENOUGH!
Loken says: Looks like you can still best me in a fair fight, little brother.
Loken says: Unfortunately for you... this fight is anything but fair!
Loken says: Thanks to your little friend, you've left the Temple of Storms, where you were at your strongest. Instead we fight closer to my master's power.
Loken says: Minions! Take my brother and his drake to their new dwellings. Make sure the beast makes it alive. I have special plans for the broodmother.
Loken says: As for your life, mortal. I will be generous. After all... why would I destroy my most useful servant? I waited for you for weeks inside that Hyldnir mine.
Loken says: The shape wasn't mine, of course. And had you not been so reckless, you would've seen past my illusion. But you came through for me, and for that... I must thank you!

Loken is truly the master of deception and trickery. What he just did in this Questline is a true work of art.

Comentado por 244939

Please notice that NPC who you need to speak to start event/fight is located on end of the bridge extended from the top of Temple/tower. He is not in centre as logic would suggest.

Comentado por 279261

what are the pre req to get this quest i have done everything that i believe i should do in able to make this quest available ive done equipment recovery and they took are men! and ive done all the quests after that ... i believe the last quest i did was Mending fences and thorim is still where i handed in the quest and cant find him in any other places to get this quest... any help would be greatly appreciated!

Comentado por Romir

Prequests are as follows:

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=12843 (16 Steps)
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=12983 (8 Steps)
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=12922 (2 Steps)
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=12924 (6 Steps)
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=12966 (2 Steps)
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=12975 (2 Steps)
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=13011
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=13005
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=13035
and finally The reckoning :)

Comentado por token

Seems like I had to do a few extra quests in between the last few. But eventually made it through. Wish I had written them down to add them

Comentado por 110727

It is also convienant for them to have this quest happen near a flight path so you can just use the auto gryphon to get to the next part.

Comentado por 283042

Ok, so as a tank I'm dying to get these gloves. I did a ton of research on quest lines/chains and how to get them. Some of the posts are helpful, but here's the chain of events I've found to truly unlock "The Reckoning" quest.

1) Do the entire chain starting with “They Took Our Men”, https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=12843 This chain should end 16 quests later with “Making a Harness” https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=12900

2) Once you complete “Making a Harness”, it will unlock “The Slithering Darkness” https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=12989 and “The Last Of Her Kind” https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=12983. Do “The Slithering Darkness” first because it’s only one quest (it may or may not be necessary to do it, but you might as well do it while you’re here). Once it’s done, start working on “The Last Of Her Kind”, which is a 8 quest chain ending with “Mending Fences” https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=12915

3) During the quest “Mending Fences” a piece of “Slag Covered Metal” will drop…this begins a new quest chain called “The Refiner’s Fire” https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=12922 This chain is only 2 quest long, ending with “A Spark Of Hope” https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=12956

3) Upon turning in “A Spark Of Hope”, you will unlock the chain “Forging An Alliance” https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=12924 which is 6 quests long. Here’s a catch…In order to do quest #5 of this chain, “Krolmir, Hammer of Storms” https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=13010, you must be friendly with “The Sons Of Hodir” and have completed “Jormuttar is Soo Fat…” https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=13011 Then you will be able to talk with the king about Krolmir for “Krolmir, Hammer of Storms” and finish the chain with “The Terrace of the Makers” https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=13057

4) Completing “The Terrace of the Maker” will unlock “The Earthen Oath” https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=13005 and Loken’s Lackeys” https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=13035 Complete both these quests and it will unlock “The Reckoning”

Hope this helps everyone!

Comentado por 178390

This entire 40-quest chain from start to finish (starting with the one at K3) has netted me just under 500 gold at level 80... and it had amazing quest descriptions and an epic plot twist at the end.

Actually, made almost 600 after selling all the items and drops I got from the massive chain, a nice reward for those who don't need exp or the gear.

Comentado por 296239

One of the far best questlines i have done in a long time!

Comentado por 115171

Long epic quest chains like these are so much more rewarding on a personal level, than running heroics. I sometimes wish Blizzard would create even longer chains with rewards to rival dungeon runs for those of us that crave storyline over raiding. Oh well I can dream can't I? Awesome chain. Couldn't use any of the rewards, but the story was worth it all. :)

Comentado por inufin

FFS! FINALLY IT ENDED! :D

Comentado por Grizela

Wowwiki really helps me with following this and many other chains.

I used http://www.wowwiki.com/Storm_Peaks_quests for storm peaks. And clicking on the quest gives you both content and comments...and links to Wowhead, Allakazam and Thottbot.

A truly excellent source.

Cheers,

Comentado por 162553

On one hand, epic questlines are way better than fetching 20 scraps of fur out of rhino stomachs, on the other, how many times must I help the Lich King before I learn better.

Comentado por Citano

i wouldn't be suprised if both Thorim and Veranus (his proto-drake that was caught also) will become raid bosses in Ulduar

Comentado por Kathucka

Spoiler Alert!

Loken casts some sort of spell on Thorim, and ends up capturing him and his mount, taunting you, and running off.

You get to kill Loken in the Halls of Lightning, but the fate of Thorim and his mount are not currently explained. Expect to see this loose end tied up in a future expansion, probably in Ulduar.

Comentado por Varyss

Once you hand this quest in to King Jokkum back at Dun Niffelem, he will give you the quest "Whatever it Takes!", which as you'd probably expect, takes you into the Halls of Lightning to give Loken a good beating.

Comentado por TheFastCat

Wait ... so Lok'lira the Crone was actually Loken in disguise waiting for <Player Name> to come spring his trap the entire time?

wow.

very cool

Comentado por Tyrsenus

Thorim will be a boss in Ulduar.

Comentado por 274653

so blizzard didnt follow the exact lore, but forging it to fit their needs.

Must be a cool job to have working for Blizzard on something like this. I can imagine them speed dating :

Girl : "So what do you do for a living?"
Blizzard designer : "Oh.. you know - this and that?"
Girl : "Well, what?"
Blizzard designer : /looks sheepish "I forge lore to fit my needs"
Girl : "You what? How?"
Blizzard designer : "Oh you know... take some of the sands of time, mix in some Nordic legend spanning back hundreds of years, blend it with an epic landscape riddled with mystery, throw in some mythology and well... yeah just forge it /shrug"
Girl : "Ah right yeah, course." /flee

Comentado por DraXXus667

OMG that was a awesome quest line.
Fyi Loken's master happens to be Yogg'saurron (or however it is spelled)
and he is a Old God .

It seems like now Thorim will be a boss in Ulduar under Yogg's control.
poor guy.

Well I'm glad we got to kill Loken in the end.

Comentado por 126855

Why are these last comments downranked they are all correct.

Comentado por 311916

I would say equally matched with the Dragonblight questline. Both are awesome chains.

Comentado por ytrill

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it strange that Lok'lira is still in Brunnhildar Village--even after completing the entire chain?

Comentado por 380116

For having revenge of Thorim, this quest leads to two HoL dungeon quests..

Comentado por 106202

I thought I'd mention that Thorim's model was upgraded in 3.1 to match his Ulduar model. Previously he looked more like an armored male frost vrykul (which, seeing as his wife was a female frost vrykul, made sense)

Comentado por 267839

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Comentado por isendims

The tenticles that you see at the end of the show are yogg-sarons to my best guess, taking control of thorims mind as he did loken

Comentado por breuger

It wasn't to make peace between the viking amazons and the Sons of Hodir.
It was initially to save the goblin's brother, incidentally you end up entering yourself in the Hyldsmeet and so decide to continue competing.
The point of the Hyldsmeet is to gain the favor of Thorim (I might be wrong). So you win and bam, there's Thorim.
Now we move on again to yet another goal, reuniting Thorim with his buddies and his gear.
And you know the rest of the story.

Edit: This was made at a no longer existent post.

Comentado por danieltang34

13481 HP vs 390k HP
i knew it

Comentado por benm550

Awesome quest line, i think they should have made an epic cutscene at the end though.

Comentado por 415964

Yep.. Both Hodir and Thorim are Ulduar keepers. as a bonus, right before the Thorim encounter, he will announce "Wait.. you. i remember you, from the Mountians.. I..."

Then Sif interrupts (not the real Sif, a made up version made by Yogg-Saron) and convinces Thorim to fight you.

you do not kill Thorim or any of the other keepers, they simply get to 1 Health and return to their normal forms. its Possible to get buffs from each of the Keepers on the Yogg fight, or none at all.

Comentado por Tyrion

Anyone else see Metal Gear in this whole fight sequence?

Frequent "Brother", The golden evil and the dark heroine. Thorims headband, lol

Comentado por Synthea

Very impressed with the way the storyline played out. Really makes one feel "used" by Loken. I thought that Lok'lira (Loken in disguise) would be gone from Brunnhilda Village but she/he is still there.

Comentado por Rikketik

A great ending for an epic quest chain. However, it did feel a bit like a déjà vu. Remember the chain at Coldarra? You free Keristrasza, she confronts Malygos, who captures her and you'll have to fight her in The Nexus. Sure, the details are very different and I like the Norse mythology in this one, but still...

Comentado por jster

I always do this quest on my toons right when i hit level 77. This quest rewards me about 400G and I end with about a level of Exp. With these you also get great lore, and awesome loots. All my toons have https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/achievement=38 now because of it.

Comentado por Tunaria

An awesome questline ^^

Thought it was really cool when the placeholder model for Thorim was used.
It still is, although using the proper Thorim model makes it look like Loken is pointing at Thorim's boots as they continously stare at eachothers crotches, as shown in one of the screenshots here :P

Comentado por luio2revenge

What a way to insert some Norse mythology into WoW's Titanic Lore, eh? i really loved this quest chain. And specially when almost everything inside Storm Peaks is related to it, I.e: in the Halls of Stome when you do the Tribunal of Ages event, there they introduce Loken and from that you can guess how Yogg'Saron enters in the story and most important: How the hell the curse of flesh is implemented into the poor earthen, my guess if that yogg'saron did it, then when the titans set up new defences and liberated the dwarves Yogg' took advantage and put Aesir and Vanir onto war between each other with the help of loken (probably what the big faces of the tribunal of ages are referring to) and then finish them, and then killed Sif to get Thorim out if the way, and with the protectors away and the master of the remaining eathen in Ulduar under his controll Yogg' could live unoticed in a big fancy stoneyice made home with a masive army of iron made dwarven, so he actually too controll of the defences the titans set upon Azeroth, and in my guesses his also responsible for the corruption of most aspect and the liberation of Deathwing, i might be rong but it makes sense that with his protectors out of the way Deathwing could slip out of his misery and bring a little of chaos to azerth, thats my opinion, if you get any other guesses or find out im wrong then plz reply i encourage you :).

Comentado por 552686

Great storyline, i enjoy it. Thank you Blizzard :P

Comentado por Lunii

... Oops. Sorry, Thorim, mah bad.

Comentado por Ciarin

I loved this questchain, really. At first, with going after the goblin, I was like "eh, whatever", but as I continued I got more and more into the questline... and now I'm sitting here feeling sorry for Thorim and telling myself how stupid I've been. x"D Great job on the lore here, as (almost x3) always. There should be way more of these kind of questchains. v_v

Comentado por 565993

This was one of the most enjoyable questlines in the game i believe as it dipped into norse mythology and had a killer plot. Plus at 80 it got me about 800g from start to finish.

Comentado por Allakhazam

hi, i hope someone may be able to hlp, but i cant seem to obtain this q, the last q i did for thorim was mending fences and he doesnt give me any new q's. i realy want to get the next part to this chain so i have the dungeon q but i cant c why he wont give me the reckoning :(

Comentado por Allakhazam

He's on the bridge at 36.1,31.4

Comentado por Mairwyn67

In case the marker doesn't show on your map, it is to the left of the meeting stone and flight point for Ulduar in Storm Peaks coords 35,21

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O Juízo

Encontre Thorim perto do Templo da Sabedoria. Informe o resultado da luta ao Rei Iokkum em Dun Niffelem.

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Loken matou minha esposa, jogou meus seguidores e eu uns contra os outros. Ele tirou tudo que eu tinha, mas hoje... a história vai ser diferente.

Hoje recuperamos nosso solo sagrado. Hoje... Loken morre.

Encontre-me na ponte perto do Templo da Sabedoria, a sudoeste de Ulduar. Vou colocar um ponto final nessa questão, custe o que custar.

Preciso de você como testemunha. Não quero ajuda. É uma questão pessoal.

Quando a luta acabar, avise Iokkum, Rei dos Gigantes de Gelo. Ele é um amigo dedicado e saberá o que fazer.

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