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Comentado por 176454

Future you appears and assists you (and has some humorous quotes like: "Listen. I'm not supposed to tell you this, but there's going to be this party that you're invited to. Whatever you do, DO NOT DRINK THE PUNCH!" and "No matter what, you can't die, because would mean that I would cease to exist, right? But, I was here before when I was you. I'm so confused!"

Comentado por Acku

Even if you happen to die while killing the elite that spawns at the end, your future self can finish him off and complete the quest for you.

Comentado por Xicon

The quest seems to imply that Nozdormu is secretly the leader of the Infinite Dragonflight.

Speculation is that since Nozdormu is "gifted" with the knowledge of where he will die, when he will die, and how he will die, he has created the Infinite Dragonflight in order to change events in Azeroth's history so that it will never come to pass. Of course, as every little children's movie about time travel tells us, fate will find a way to do away with him eventually.

I personally hope that Nozdormu isn't the leader of the Infinites, but you can't deny it'd make one nice plot point.

Comentado por 182248

72,39 ish. faster to run from wintergarde keep.

Comentado por ConflictJunkie

Ironic how your future self wears the same gear you do... you'd half expect him to wear Tier 7 or something lol.

As a fury warrior try to stay an even threat with your future self for if you get low hp you can let him out threat you so you can bandage. Very easy quest to solo, just don't tank the elite for too long.

~con

Comentado por 194158

Maybe Nozdormu split into two forms?
One is the Bronze form,from the present and one is the Infinte from, from the future ?
The Bronze wants to save the hourglass and the Infinte want to prevent the world from a great disaster.

P.S.: I love Prince of Persia XD

Comentado por 171133

soo my future self has an ugly haircut, has same gear as me, and 5k less hp, and is level 80...

if that was the future me i would be worried! and why did he say 'get better gear' when he has the same gear as me... thats messed up.

Comentado por Herbert

According to the records of what your future self says on Wowwiki, its most likely that they will give your future self much better armor and weapons. Here they are anyway:

Future You whispers: Hey there, <name>, don't be alarmed. It's me... you... from the future. I'm here to help.
Future You whispers: Heads up... here they come. I'll help as much as I can. Let's just keep them off the hourglass!
Future You whispers: No matter what, you can't die, because would mean that I would cease to exist, right? But, I was here before when I was you. I'm so confused!
Future You whispers: Look at you fight; no wonder I turned to drinking.
Future You whispers: I can't believe that I used to wear that.
Future You whispers: Listen. I'm not supposed to tell you this, but there's going to be this party that you're invited to. Whatever you do, DO NOT DRINK THE PUNCH!
Future You whispers: Look, <name>, the hourglass has revealed Nozdormu!
Future You whispers: Farewell, <name>. Keep us alive and get some better equipment!

Comentado por 140619

I hope in a future expansion/patch they implement a quest where you go back in time to aid yourself in revealing the leader of the infinite dragonflight, all the while yelling insults at your former self.

Comentado por MrInfluXion

Was anyone else not able to turn this in at WPL?

I turned it in at the top level of Wyrmrest Temple. The Chromie in WPL isnt the right one.

Comentado por 243362

Managed to solo as 72 fire mage. Well kind of soloing...I had help. From myself. Is'nt that soloing? well nevermind. Actullay it said that i had completed the quest before i slew the elite drake at the end

Comentado por BlackMage66652

At 80, Chromie gives you the follow up to this quest: Mystery of the Infinite, Redux You can probably guess what you get to do. ;)

Comentado por AusSpyder

Apparently my priest re rolls warrior at 80 and then proceeds to stab things with her caster dagger while wearing a dress and having less HP than I do

so I'm guessing i take a hard knock to the head in the next 7 levels

Comentado por 54981

Chromie is kind of dense. You are sent to reveal the leader of the Infinite Dragon Flight. It reveals Nozdormu. Which means it IS Nozdormu. But Chromie is a little scatterbrained for a time traveling dragon.

Its a classic tale of someone knowing that something will happen in the future, so they try to stop it, invariably setting into motion the events that cause it to happen.

Comentado por LttS

I love how my future self (a mage) complains about how inexperienced I am while stabbing the mobs with his dagger and refusing to cast any spells at all :S... Back to Tirisfal with you!

Comentado por Zarpd

I'd just like to toss something out there: everyone keeps saying it's likely Nozdormu is likely the leader of the Infinite Dragon Flight, and is attempting to change his future.

Seeing as how time travel has always dealt with fatalism, it's very possible that the death he has forseen for himself is when he is killed for trying to lead the Infinite Dragon Flight. This is just -the way things have to be-.

Maybe he knows this is how time has to flow. Maybe there is a much grander reason for him to die after trying to rebel, that we cannot yet understand. Just tossing out a theory.

Comentado por 59673

My future self needs to shut his pie hole.. Sitting there with 8190 HP telling me I need better gear when i'm at 10300HP. :)

Comentado por SykotikKytten

Apparently, my future self is a hemo rogue.
This is amusing, seeing as i have not touched hemo.
Ever.
>_>

Comentado por Elminstar

pretty much the same as i thought when i did the quest, because where does it say he has to be trying to stop himself dying with the whole infinite dragonflight business

Comentado por brionl

Apparently, the future me is a melee hunter. The shame. Didn't use my pet, didn't use a ranged weapon, just stood there and whacked stuff. :)

Comentado por 142604

Future me didn't bring any Grey's Arena Almanac, bugger >..<

Comentado por Ladondia

I for one really hope that Nozdormu isn't trying to stop his death but bring it about, being the loyal aspect of time he is supposed to be. Quite frankly I've had enough of the whole, "Aspects are too Powerful and are abusing their powers and they need to be stopped!"

Also in regards to an earlier post, the Nightmare isn't nessicarily an expression of Ysera's insanity but could be that of an Old God that has managed to wiggle its way into the dream, possibly the one whose skeleton is on prominent display in Darkshore.

Comentado por 136555

Only thing the pally future self did besides autoattack was Hammer of Justice occasionally...

Comentado por Blightman

Feh, apparently all caster future selves have become retarded and melee the mobs. Sad

Comentado por 173605

"Future You whispers: Look at you fight; no wonder I turned to drinking."

"Future You whispers: Farewell, . Keep us alive and get some better equipment!"

I'm such a !@#$%^... in the future.

Comentado por Dameblanche

Bloody hell, if that's my future me, I stop playing wow. I am a mage, and the cow just whacked around a bit a bit with her staff. Oh, and complained about my gear and left the fight way before the elite was dead. Later when I grow up, I don't wanna be a lvl 80 mage like, that, aaaaw? Daddy? Tell me I won't be like that?

Comentado por hostage

well my future me tells me im so bad and no wonder why he turned in to drinking, well...... ima tankadin with 16k hp....... wonder how me at lvl 80 got the half the hp i got now...................

Comentado por 282135

If you notice closely after completing this quest,Chromie hesitates to reply about whether or not Nozdormu is the leader of the Infinite dragonflight,she brushes it off and changes her theory of "revealing the leader" to being "thankful he's alive and well" and telling us that he's fighting against them.

The reason i think she's hesitating is like..if no one has seen or heard from Nozdormu in ages and no one could contact him..how did she know he was fighting against them..?

Comentado por 282774

Dosnt Azerothian time depend on Nozdormu's survial? I think it said that somewhere in The Well Of Eterntiy trilogy. And at the start of one of the books, Nozdormu is flying and has a reurcoring dream about his death. Im pretty sure the Ancients told him that the point of his existence was to keep time working. And cant he be at a diference place at each different point in time? Meaning that if he went evil, then anyone who tried to kill him he could just go back in time and kill them.

Comentado por Raxiel

When My main met his future self, he was kind of a *!@#, so when he met his past self he made sure to get his abuse in first.

My alt however made out with both her future and past selves.

Comentado por Dantarahma

im not sure about other hunters. i jsut did this quest as BM. i had pet out and growl was active. future me was a great tank - pet couldnt even keep aggro of future me.

loved standing back and shooting the mobs to death while having 2 "tanks" runnign around to hold them.

Comentado por Maka

It's very funny, if you get transformed into a "holiday" gnome (only availabe during Winter Veil) and do this, your Future You will also be one, looks very funny, when you go out of the "costume", your Future You still looks like a gnome.

Comentado por 284280

I'm just flying from the q place and i want to say that my Future self is A NOOB! hes a dagger-hemo rogueO_O

Comentado por inmanjm

Man, I must be a jerk. Future me left me alone to fight the elite that spawns at the end. First thing I'm going to do when I hit 80 is punch myself in the neck.

Comentado por 221759

It's obvious that, in the future, we ranged DPS will be so advanced that using spells and bows is just a frivolous gesture.

Comentado por 250946

I'm a mage, I started to lose it when the elite came out, and I popped invisibility, hoping it would go over to my future self. Instead, it just completed the quest as soon as I left combat, the dragon dropped aggro, and my future self dissappeared. Maybe you can shortcut the whole event right in the beginning this way?

Comentado por 292556

For Rogues If you are in stealth before your future self shows up, then you would not be able to see your future self. Which kinda sucks...

Comentado por Strafer

Damn Questhelper. This is the second time it showed me the wrong place. Questhelper pointed to this guy in Eastern Plaugelands, wtf? Then when i was there i realised that he was still there in that tower back in Dragonblight. Now im waiting for my heartstone to coolddown so i can be back there in soon.

:(

Comentado por Magramar

As an interesting note, "future you" gets weapon procs! When I saw him wearing the same gear as I, I let the quest fail, equipping Thunderfury before dropping the beacon. I watched him fight and his Thuderfury procced at standard rate, debuffs and all!

...Now I just HAVE to go get my ravager and try this again!

Comentado por 13419

72,39 ish. faster to run from wintergarde keep.

future me is a Mele lock that pwns elites!

Comentado por 281168

my future me sayed i turn into an alcholic... well i do tend to drink alot

Comentado por Nightlydust

"Future You whispers: Wow, I'd forgotten how inexperienced I used to be."

That's rich coming from a druid in casterform hitting mobs with her freaking staff.

Comentado por JangoDarkhand

Uh guys, if you haven't read at least Well of Eternity's first two chapters, than you do not know that Malygos is not evil, just insane, Ysera is not evil, just asleep while her dreams destroy things, Nelfarion is evil, Alexstraza is a goody goody, and Nozdormu is very suspicious, and if he did indeed create the Infinite Dragonflight to stop his own death, than we will eventually know that he is a selfish dragon, and there will a be quest or new Caverns of Time instance where we gotta kill him, with hopefully the help of Ysera, Krasus, and Alexstraza. Also, in The Well of Eternity, Krasus sees Nozdormu in the middle of the anomaly...I am still reading that book so I do not yet know why he was inside the anomaly, kind of like a bug stuck in a web.

Comentado por 264523

Chromie, the quest giver, first appears in the Ruins of Andorhal (Eastern Plaguelands). Nice to see an old face reappear. :)

As for the whole Nozdormu thingie, here's my two cents: Perhaps, the Infinite Dragonflight are themselves from a different time. In past eons, a younger Nozdormu could have tried preventing his death, creating the infinite dragonflight himself. Since Nozdormu can apparently travel through time, it makes sense that he could have traveled to the distant future when he was still younger than what we see him as in this quest. He only could create the flight in the future, since history does not state that such a flight has existed- if he did it in the past, then there would be mention of them.

The Infinite Dragonflight could have been purposed with preventing Nozdormu's death. And in the present, Nozdormu has realized his folly. Maybe he's seen that changing his own fate will have disasterous consequences on other beings, and now fights with his bronze dragonflight to correct his eronous ways.

Congratulations, Blizzard, for giving players something to really think about.

Comentado por Belse

Seeing how my future self has the same gear as I have I don´t think my arena-career will work out very good...

Comentado por Renathras

That's not quite right about all of them going nuts and evil-ish.

Naltharion/Deathwing was messed with by an old god, but say he DID become evil.

Malygos isn't so much evil as he is overreacting (fearing that Azeroth will be destroyed by its magical energies being used up too quickly, like people drinking all of the water out of a well or using up all the minerals in the ground by growing crops without letting it replenish itself.) In a way, Malygos is trying to SAVE Azeroth from premature death. And we all know from Final Fantasy VII (I know, old reference) that when the life energy/magic is used up in a planet and not allowed to replenish, the planet dies.

Ysera is forever asleep, as is her fate and domain, and is currently fighting off some evil in the Emerald Dream (with the assistance of Malfurion and, presumably, a carde of powerful Druids.) The Emerald Dream is sort of an Astral Plane (how people use the term in our own world), a world of combined dreamers' dreams. So Ysera isn't evil either, nor is she insane, she's in her realm fighting something that could potentially cause considerable problems for the world.

So then we have the queen of the Reds, who is totally sane at the moment, and we have our Lord of Time, whose intentions we don't really know yet. So that leaves 3 of 5 "good" (though one overreactingly insane) and 1 questionable (Nozdormu.) So it seems the warranty is still good, for the time being. And for all we know, Nozdormu's actions may be leading to some "good" end. The fatalist argument that he may be simply trying to fulfill the conditions of his own death make sense (or that, in trying to escape it, he causes it.)

...alternatively, for all we know, he could think that his time has come (perhaps that he's becoming corrupted and so trying to fulfill the conditions that he knows lead to his death to spare the world from his own corruption) and so be trying to prematurely cause his own demise. Although it would be interesting if he became a raid boss and, after defeating him, he is saved from death saying that it isn't his time and that he can still be "good", ect, and him being sent off to continue on without the fear of corruption with honor and integrity, ect. You know, stuff like that. ^_^

...something that would be made all the more amusing were it his future self who saves him (and if said future self then died from the exertion, his fate could, in a roundabout way, finally be closed as that would be his ultimate "death", which would also allow his "present" self to go on knowing that he is inherently honorable and noble and all that.) Geeze, time traveling...go fig!

Comentado por Arnen

My personal theory is that Nozdormu, having been told that "this is the way things have to be", reluctantly created the Infinite Flight - not simply to lead to his eventual death, but also for some other reason.

Perhaps his death is tied in with a greater event, for which it was necessary to train his successor and/or some champions to aid in a larger battle. He would surely know that the Infinite Flight would be doomed from the start, and thus made them a challenge, but not impossible to overcome. And so his champions, having overcome this lesser challenge, will then be able to save the world from the real threat later on.

....Or something.

Comentado por 308887

Im asking this question because it would be cool, what if you took off all of your gear when you put down the totem and then put it back on? it would be pretty funny to see he had accomplished nothing but to get all of his gear destroyed...

Comentado por 48820

Will you guys that want to shoot the crap about lore and all other irrelvent crap, go to a forum...you're making wowhead painful, NOT helpful. Keep it short and sweet - tips, coords are great. I don't come here for lore.

Comentado por 140413

Only special thing future me told me was:
"Wow, i'd forgotten how inexperienced i used to be."
Kinda hurt my feelings ):

Comentado por 306593

I was myself... A DK...but I was sure being a !@#$%... She didn't even give me the friggin 'DO NOT DRINK THE PUNCH' advice! So I may drink the punch! She said all the mean things... But yeah, we kicked the elite's ass at the end.. but still she was being pretty mean. But the quest was fun otherwise!

Comentado por 327434

Wait.. is it even slightly possible that the Infinite Dragonflight are actually the Bronze Dragonflight from the future? I don't know much about the lore so this just came to my mind..because it somehow looks as the Bronze Dragonflight could have been corrupted by the "Corrupted" Nozdormu, from what I've heard about him.

Comentado por barooboodoo

Doing both these quests at 80 kind of ruined their charm for me...

Comentado por Adulruna

It'd sure be nice if your future self appeared as a "Level ? Boss"... I guess I'll have to settle with a melee Warlock though.

Comentado por 327700

Summoning the Hourglass of Eternity naked will create a naked Future You

Comentado por 333305

Craziest thing. My DK didnt get around to doing this quest until I was lvl 80. So, when I did it, I was wearing the same gear and my Future You, had less than 1/2 my hp and was doing 1/3 my damage. I got WEAKER somehow. but I was my future self, so did I get stronger too?

Comentado por Pachirisuneytor

I could swear i grabbed this quest from Chromie when I was level 57, I noticed it was red but never expected for it to be so much later ahead...

Comentado por 152318

Just did this quest...
I ROCKED! i mean, I WILL rock...

Comentado por 147348

Just place Hourglass of Eternity at the point questheler shows u and defend it

Comentado por Akario

Maybe you guys are doing it wrong. MAYBE you're supposed to melee as a caster.

Comentado por Kabi

Im a prot warrior
my future me has 1/3 hp
also he does whirldwind...
he has a shield just like me

Also he gets confused with time travel kinda lame

Why does he has the same gear as me btw its my future i want top tier items lol

It should have spawned with a really good set looking items but old or some crap like that

Also cant the future me just tell me what the #$%^ is going on?

Comentado por thoraine

Chromie tells me "You are not immortal."
But... I'm a paladin...

Comentado por 386550

this is such a fun quest and it is at 72.38

Comentado por 195691

Quote from Prince Of Persia game:
Your journey will not end well. You can not change your fate. No man can.
However, there is also quote from the "Next" movie:
Each time you look into the future, it changes. Because you looked at it. And that changes everything.

Seems that in WoW they take the first quote in action

Comentado por Xrystal

Hunters rejoice! New spec 'Future You' will now specialise in melee combat.

Comentado por 205415

The future me actually Bladestormed when I did, I thought that was pretty cool...

Comentado por MMOSimca

It makes sense for Nozdormu to be the leader of the Infinite Dragonflight.

As many other people have mentioned, Nozdormu's power gives him to the ability to not only travel through time but also to know every event up until and including his eventual death.

What the other people in the comments here have not mentioned (well somebody mentioned the books but not actually the line) is a quote at the end of The Well of Eternity book 3 that is very important to this discussion:

Nozdormu: "...It is my fate and my curssse to know such things and be unable myssself to prevent them. Know that I now asssk for forgiveness for the wrongs I will caussse you in the future, but I mussst be what I am destined to be... as Malygos is."

The wrongs I will cause you in the future. I must be what I am destined to be. Nozdormu boss next expansion?

Comentado por 433796

Don't worry about the flying dragons they wont hurt you just run in set it down and watch you and yourself fight off some mobs and an elite easy for a 74 hunter.

Comentado por 427734

I'm not sure if it's because I stealthed between waves or if it's just a general insult (i.e. suggesting I'm so useless it's like I'm not even there), but my future self said:

"What? Am I here alone. We both have a stake in this, you know!"

Also when I was fighting the boss and started getting beat up, then got screwed by it parrying my Kidney Shot, I thought I was dead for sure. Then suddenly I became stunned, my future self pulled complete threat and I survived at 900 hp. People said before that your future self can finish it off for you if you die, but it seemed like the game just prevented me from dying to begin with.

Comentado por Sedirex

Future me whirlwinds with a shield :(

Comentado por Berrenger

Future Me seems to have respecced from Fury to Arms :(

Nevermind, still a great quest and funny as heck :)

And don't forget to give yourself a /highfive.

Comentado por skibow4

This quest was easy to stay alive on atleast on a shammy :P and thanks for the tips.

Comentado por Quilan

Let me get something straight...
If you die doing this quest, yourself in the future doesn't die, but if your future self dies you in the future doesn't die while doing the Mystery of the infinite, redux. But if your future self accidently gets yourself in the present of doing the quest you don't die in the future resulting in a Time-Paradox... uhhh i'm confused and YAGHHHH thats one mother of a headache...

Comentado por 258919

Possible that the universe may implode upon itself if you survive this version with both you and your future self alive, but die on the next one. Possible.

Comentado por Spacevixen

Doing this quest as a mage my future self did indeed cast frostbolts at the mobs and I was able to complete the quest no problem.
Doing this quest again as a Druid in Cat Form was nigh on impossible as my future self didn't shift forms and only hit the mobs with my staff, dying after about 30 seconds in to the fight leaving me alone to try and kill the elite at the end. Two corpse runs later and I'm scratching my head about how other druids have managed this quest if all druid future selves refuse to shift forms.

Comentado por 584168

Am I the only one who thinks an Infinite Drake mount would be really cool? I like how they're all dark with the blue cracks...

Comentado por Lightgil

The future me was bugged when I did they battle on my warrior. I was using Battleworn Thrash Blade, which has about a 1% chance of proccing an extra attack, but for future me it procced about 100 extra attacks over the time of the encounter at what seemed to be a 100% chance.

Comentado por akumati4061

Future You whispers: Listen. I'm not supposed to tell you this, but there's going to be this party that you're invited to. Whatever you do, DO NOT DRINK THE PUNCH!
Kinda funny because omw to turn in the quest my random dungeon gets ready and there was a refreshment table >.>

Comentado por MochaKimono

Just thought I'd throw in my thoughts about Nozdormu here:

I interpreted his appearance as having to do with him being (iirc) the father/progenitor of the Infinite Dragonflight, making him not so much the "leader" as the indirect originator of them, whether or not he actually has influence over their current and future actions (or would that be past actions?...)

Anyway, feel free to correct me, anything to do with all these time-traveling dragons lore-wise can get a little confusing for me...

Post-Cata edit: welp, I was wrong, hah.

Comentado por Shaitan051

Future you is much weaker then you despite being lvl80, guess I'm gonna get cancer.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Well.. its all fine and good to know where to drop the hourglass but where do you go to enter?

Comentado por Allakhazam

I entered at 69,37 and there is another entrance S/E of there. Remember, the Hourglass item starts the event, nothing happens and there is no cave or anything once you get there. You have to use the item.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I soloed this as a level 75 mage. I died but didn't release as my "future me" was able to finish off the remaining mobs.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I was able to solo this easily with a 72 Feral Druid.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Looking at the map you'll see a pale circular area in the mountains just a little bit north west of Wintergarde Keep. Just to the left of it there's a gap in the mountains. At this gap is a snowy ramp, follow it up and it will lead you to Bronze Dragonshrine, a little sandy area. I think you can activate the hourglass anywhere in this general area.

Comentado por Allakhazam

I dropped my hourglass at 71,38.

This was easy to solo as a 73 prot war to include the elite mob at the end.

When you drop your hourglass, it summons a "future you" to assist in the fight. As long as you're keeping the mobs aggro'ed on you or future you, you should be good to go.

Comentado por Allakhazam

Where is the entrance?

Comentado por Allakhazam

My future self said some funny things while we were fighting. This was the best:

"Listen. I'm not supposed to tell you this, but there's going to be this party that you're invited to. Whatever you do, DO NOT DRINK THE PUNCH!"

He also ended with: "Farewell. Keep us alive and get some better equipment!"

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O mistério do infinito

Crona, no topo do Templo do Repouso das Serpes, quer que você vá até o Santuário Dragônico Bronze. Uma vez lá dentro, posicione a Ampulheta da Eternidade no chão.

Proteja a ampulheta pelo tempo que for necessário, e então informe Crona de suas descobertas.

	Ampulheta da Eternidade protegida (1)

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Uma tormenta temporal no Santuário Dragônico Bronze, a nordeste daqui, está impedindo os imortais de entrar.

A Revoada Infinita está lutando dentro do santuário com os defensores para tomar o controle do lugar. Precisamos aproveitar a oportunidade para obter informações.

Você não é imortal. Por isso, pode entrar no santuário e usar a Ampulheta da Eternidade. Proteja a ampulheta pelo tempo que for necessário até que o líder da Revoada Infinita se revele.

Fique <avisado/avisada>, a Revoada Infinita tentará impedir!

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