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Comentado por 84399

A spell fist weapon? My God... Druids and Elemental Shaman should be damn happy, so either blizz read my post on the suggestion forums or someone was thinking the same thing as me. WTG Blizz!

Comentado por Benegesserit

And here I though Blizzard was trying to REDUCE the amount of items that get DE'd.

Comentado por ExTheOne

This does indeed seem slightly odd. I can only imagine either the stats or the weapon type getting fixed in an upcoming patch.

Comentado por Keene

I don't think it kills anyone to have a single caster fist weapon, while it's really cool for those who can and will use it.

That being said, fist weapons do not show on character while not wielding them (at least in live, don't know if this will be changed for WLK, but I doubt it), so most of the time this weapon wouldn't be visible.

Comentado por 116147

I'm a moonkin and I approve of this weapon.

Comentado por 87458

while its great that this screams out moonkin and elemental shaman i do think this isnt going to be al that great.
i mean with this weapon only 2 classes can roll on it and benefit from it.
if this were a dagger alot more classes would benefit from it, sure youd have to roll/bid for it against other classes, but atleast it would be a reason to keep coming back.
even thoug im thrilled since im an elemental shaman myself.
i do not know 100% sure if this is a smart way of itemization.

Comentado por grimnos

from the look of this weapon i think it drops in the nexus

Comentado por Thirteenth

give warlocks Fist Weapons skill PLOX *_*

Comentado por 47633

As a resto shaman this gives you almost every stat you'd want on a weapon.
With our talents in Wrath having a big benefit from crit, you'll want spellpower, haste, crit, Mp5, Stamina and Intellect.
This thing has all of them but the Mp5.

So, as a resto shammy, count me in on this. Finally, a fist weapon I can use to heal.

Comentado por morvain

Halo + Tempest Keep = Wraith Strike

Why am I being downrated for saying the truth, look at the graphics and you'll see what i'm talking about...

Comentado por 151381

The design is really nice, it's like Gohdan from Legend of Zelda somehow had a child with Tempest Keep and made a fist weapon.

Comentado por Missingname

Sad for elemental shammy's they can't DW

Comentado por Mmaster

That fists looks absolutely fantastic. Beautiful weapon, and it's perfect for my Moonkin!

Comentado por Tarrek

Drops from Maexxna in Heroic Naxxramas.

Comentado por 163908

Looks like a goldorak weapon, really transformer robots inspired.

Was this design allready included in the original naxx? Don't know but fits better the pink BC Draenai designs :/

Comentado por 200743

Reminds me of Tron.

"Chance on hit: Launch a frisbee at the target."

Comentado por 167664

Dropped our first week in naxx last week, ele sham got it. Dropped again this week and I got it, moonkin/resto druid. Such a sexy weapon. I like that its a spell fist weapon, gives us and shamans something unique over the other classes.

Comentado por 265278

*moonkin with this weapon*

I got it a few hours ago... just been standing on the AH bridge, getting comments on it =P

Comentado por 34640

Actually, dualwield gives 2x flametongue (=548 powerdmg) or 2x earthliving(=390powerhealing)
and offhand weapon (couple enha talents) can give like 30-40spellpower and haste, crit and stamina.
Its nise that they gave enhas little kind of spell buff; surely 195-274power selfbuff on OH beats some nasty shields? https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=39140

Comentado por Rebi

This is probably not an enhancement shaman weapon. Also, it's a main-hand weapon, so as an enhancement shaman, you'd be losing a ton of dmg on your swings and stormstrikes. Leave this one for the elemental shaman and druids, Yrjoirmeli.

Comentado por 261031

I just got this today... i was drooling when I saw it, i didn't even knew it existed!

We had me, resto shaman, and two resto druids. One of the resto druids already had the candle stick weapon and the other one had some random blue from a heroic or rep vendor loot. The second druid was QQed at by others for wanting to roll on it. Their reasoning was resto druids do not really need haste/crit... so I won it, i was quite happy...

To bad for the second druid, i wouldn't have mind if we rolled for it.

Comentado por 292710

I don't know why anyone would say this isn't good for Druids. First of all, it's a fist wep with spell power, which means only a druid or shaman can even equip it. Yes, it is great for Boomkins, but what about Resto Druids? It's got a lot of spell power and haste. Sure crit is not as important for druids, but we still have casts that crit (healing touch, nourish, regrowth, final heal of lifebloom). I got this item as an upgrade over the War Mace of Unrequited Love (from heroic Nexus) and although I lost some MP5, my spell power shot up over 2k. I say its a free roll for anyone who can use it.

Comentado por shklj

Hmm it is good for resto druids and shamans but they have a lot of better options so please let us boomkins and elementals have this

Comentado por shklj

That warlock should be shot if there was a shaman or druid also needing it

Comentado por 41873

Currently best in slot for Resto Shaman.

Comentado por 148878

Just got this tonight from Gluth in 25 man Naxx and It's the best weapon for a resto druid in game atm i think. I can't stand using a staff, these weapons are only good for the spirit but they usually have lower spell power than a one-hand + off hand may offer.
This fist weapon is a great alternative to the Titansteel mace, which costs around 4k gold on my server atm ( Lightbringer EU)

Comentado por JoeHeff

To both of the 2 poster's above me... is this a hoax organized by resto druids/shaman everywhere are would you seriously take this over Torch of Holy Fire

It seems silly to me, but maybe I just have no clue? From everything I've read, mana regen is the most heavily weighted stat, even more important for resto shaman and druids than in TBC...

Comentado por 296641

Yea, i am a resto druid and there are plenty of better weapons for healing available. My brother has it (he's a boomkin, Delmkin on Area 52), and it's awesome for balance, but not so great for healing. Even if you are a nuke healer (meaning you could actually make use out of the haste and crit) it's alright, but it has no mp5 or spirit.

Mana Regen is crucial for the longer fights, some not so much but fights like malygos you will find yourself oom fast if your healing as much as you should be. I would never roll against a Boomkin or Elemental Shaman for this.

Comentado por 301062

lol by the way this thing looks, it should shoot lasers as well =)

Comentado por Kaitain

The only problem i have with this weapon is that if you don't hold it out, it disappears completely. As does your offhand. So it looks like you have no weapon at all most of the time :-(

Comentado por 161867

Sure there are tons of weapons meant for moonkins/elementals, but its unfair that clothys get to steal them all. If something has spirit its theirs, if it don't have any, its still theirs. This is the answer (the only answer in the years of WoW). It's about time too. (Now you just have to watch as healers steal it from you d'oh)

Probably best weapon you can actually get, minus the mace from (H) Kel'Thuzad, which considering all the classes rolling (holy pallys, all 3 priests , ele/resto shaman, moonkins, all 3 mages, destro/demon locks) you will never get it.

So this fist weapon is your 'sangraal'. Hunt it down and make it yours! (and btw, it does in fact shoot lazers O_o I can totally confirm this if I get it...)

Comentado por 17778

which considering all the classes rolling (holy pallys, all 3 priests , ele/resto shaman, moonkins, all 3 mages, destro/demon locks)

Neither mages nor locks can use maces or fists. They're too busy catfighting over The Turning Tide, anyway. But point is still valid: Heroic KT's 1H Mace would perhaps best serve the raid's healers first, so this uber fist is a really nice option.

Equally-decent "pure dps" option to this fist: KT's non-hero mace.

Next up are probably the two spirit maces (since there's still some spell power kick from Spirit in addition to the regen), although the healers will get equal benefit from them:

Malygos non-hero mace
Loatheb/Gluth hero mace

Following that: the two +hit and +spirit daggers, but again you'll be fighting the other DPS casters for these edged beauties. But the healers should most likely take a back seat on these unless their heals are missing (yes, that was a joke). Flip side: if you're getting your hit cap from other sources, the itemization of the maces and this page's fist seem to be preferred. But if you're still shuffling gear for +hit:

KT non-hero dagger
Random heroic Naxx trash

(seeing both spirit and +hit on these seems really silly; would obviously rather see these items' budgets spent on haste or crit instead of spirit)

Comentado por 148878

As far as i know, this is the only fist weapon in the game which is useful to druids. I was thinking that the ability to train fist weps was useless until this thing came out.

Comentado por 42221

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7B23owqBK8
Video of the Model Graphic

Comentado por 321581

As a resto sham ( on Hyjal), I would love this weapon. Forget the mace from Kel, I would sport this just because of the look and still have plenty of SP, Mp5, and a tiny bit more crit.

Solo healing reg VoA already so why not do it while shaking my fist!

Comentado por 140323

I would have to say as a Elemental Shaman this is probably the best weapon in the game as of right now. Haste and crit on a weapon is always a good thing for a shaman. Boomkins need the same stats as ele shamans so they need this just as much. Seeing a resto druid roll on this over a boomking or ele is sad sometimes.

Comentado por 176651

The last thing this game needs is a 6" foot owl runnin around with a glove that shoot lasers

Comentado por 289655

they shouldnt .. i hate when all classes take weapon .. and what the deffirent between the fist or the mace ? all got spell power :)

Comentado por orsen

if you are going with a caster weapon you want as fast as possible. Yes you are losing your SS but with a fast caster weapon you will use FT/FT and the speed of the weapon is much more important. This is garbage for enhancement.

Comentado por 190616

Would this also be good for a resto druid? since it had spell power and haste might be a good idea.

Comentado por 327769

This weapon is actually not the best for resto druids....

The stat priorities should go ...
Mana regen is getting even more important for druids since they are reducing the mana regen of people who arent casting but are in combat, and druids are rarely casting.

Reason 1 - druids do not need haste nearly as much as shaman healers who are spamming the chain heals, most of the druids healing is coming from ticks from hots, TBH getting haste for just regrowth is a wasted stat, if u are having to use nourish then whoever your healing needs better gear or something, hots are easily enough with the occasional regrowth.

Reason 2 - Crit is only just better then haste, life blooms crits arent necessary for easy healing and you dont need to rely on swiftmend crits at all, regrowth already has atleast 50% crit with the talents ( obviously having higher crit with int and im gonna be realistic u cant get all your gear just SP and mp5 so you reach about 70% with a boomkin)

Reason 3 - No mp5... seriously no mp5...? druids spend alot of time as healers as the raid heals, which generally means that your healing all the time, this isent a bad thing it just utilizes the fact we can heal multiple people at once and our heals are cheap.

BTW im not just some idiot huntard speaking about stuff he knows nothing about, im a resto druid and from my experiences this is how the game goes.

Comentado por 292710

He is asking if it is good, not if it is the best in slot.

RESTO DRUIDS

This item has no spirit or mana regen of any kind. Therefore, it is clearly not best in slot for a resto druid. However, it has 461 spell power, so it is clearly a viable healing weapon. The only weapon with more than that is the mace from KT on heroic. So, with that in mind, resto druids feel free to roll. Just remember that you will need to make up the regen in other places.

Comentado por shockumo

Flametongue Weapon: Bonus damage from spell power now based on weapon speed. Slower weapons will benefit more from spell power.

The newest PTR patch notes say that FT spell power will scale with weapon speed. The change was originally implemented to benefit enhance so that FT dmg will scale correctly with weapon speed. However the wording in the patch notes is a bit ambiguous. If in fact the SP bonus DOES scale with weapon speed, then this wep will be without a doubt the BiS for elemental shamans since it is a 2.6 speed weapon.

Comentado por 297477

Picked this up as an Resto Shaman, as nobody else wanted it.

At first I was a little confused. A fist weapon? well it must be a dps item then. But then I started to warm to the stats: haste is nice, crit is OK, SP and INT and both welcome. All I lose is 15MP5 over my previous mace, somewhat mitigated by the extra INT.

If your a Resto Shammy dont let the fact that it's a first weapon or it's lack of MP5 put you off - esp if your not having trouble with mana.

Edit
Think of it as a slightly better allocated (and looking) alternative to Hammer of the Astral Plane.

Comentado por 278195

It was mentioned, but just briefly, that this weapon is actually a great enhancement shaman mainhand.

Before you rip this post to pieces or mark it down, at least read on. The enhancement shaman totems (the item slot) available to buff windfury are horrible, being bested by the level 70 30badge of justice stonebreaker's totem. The glyph got nerfed awhile back, leaving windfury pretty dull.

In it's replacement however, it is feasible to pick up a mainhand caster weapon such as this for the mainhand and imbue it with flametongue, as well as a quick offhand like a dagger and imbue that with flametongue as well. With the 2x flametongues and this equipped, plus through talents and average naxx10 enhancement gear, a shaman should be able to get over 2000 spell power. Considering the huge bonus to the flametongue fire damage this does, as well as the attack speeds, plus the extra damage from magma totem, chain lightning, and earthshock, it more than makes up for the loss in windfury.

Here is a wowinsider article on this very matter. I find it particularly odd, because before I read the article, I had both wraith strike and murder on my shaman (shocknroll of sargeras), and both of them are mentioned in the same sentence. I decided to give it a go myself after reading, and it's okay. The huge bonus in spell damage through earth shock and chain lightning is very apparent, but also apparent is that maelstrom weapon procs slower without the windfury attacks. I suspect this is easily remedied by picking up a quicker caster weapon, like the torch of holy fire that the page describes.

http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/03/19/totem-talk-when-things-go-off-the-rails/

3.1 should put an end to this itemization.

Comentado por 328708

The official Moonkin club glove!

Looking forward to see some more caster fist weapons since druids and shammies can't compete over those spectacular caster swords...

Not precisely excellent for healing, but i suppose its viable considering we don't see moonkins and ele shammies very often, at least in my realm. Also, it is unusual to find a weapon which wouldn't be massively rolled for by every other caster in the raid.

Comentado por Kokiron

I got this today, and my feathery moonkin self was very happy. Finally a useful fist weapon. Glad I trained fist weapons back in the day lol.

Comentado por nickwatson64

This weapon works great for enhancement shamans. Granted let your elemental and boomkins get it first. But after a few test this weapon actually is one the enchancement shamans top 5.
Also this works great in pvp, since the increase in spell damage rips DK and Pal apart.

Just repeating a good comment from orsin that was downrated by idiots

Comentado por 203061

I've been dying to get this wep for my moonkin but the drop rate is pretty low - i done this on heroic pretty much every week for 2months and still no fist wep.unlucky i guess :(

i got it..but after i got plasma foil from 10man ulduar...

Comentado por Puchatek

HUNTER WEAPON!

Comentado por wildowned1995

Well, this fist weap is mostly used of healing / elemental shamans, and iv seen balance druids with it ( normal form ) that looks retarded like hell..seriously...! Shamans should have prio on it.

Comentado por Sador

Just for the record, this looks like a Borg implant if the druid is in Moonkin form. The opening is the same size as the moonkin's arm.

Comentado por 231977

WTB Caster Axe for shammies/pallies next! :D

Comentado por 422048

Really cool spell power/casting fist weapon. Got it a while ago on my Balance Druid. I love how it looks. i can definately see many mookins running around with this lol. All in all, a great weapon to use, as a mookin or a shammy.

Comentado por 281730

Should restoration druids roll on against shamans or balance druids?

I always get upset when I lose this to a restoration druid ( I am a moonkin, so It's not that I don't understand them).

Okay crit, yes that can be useful. Nourish, regrowth, and lifebloom have the ability to critically heal.

Haste, that can lower GCD but that is not that useful for restoration druids compared to shamans or moonkins due to all the instants.

Now, the fact that it has no spirit makes it seem like this clearly isn't for restoration druids, shamans on the other hand don't get much out of spirit. Not saying that restoration druids can never roll on this, but shouldn't they be last on the priority list?

I think shamans and balance druids would be in the same place for this weapon, but when a restoration druid wins this I can't understand why because it seems mediocre for them.

Comentado por anonymousSnowman

I wish pally's could use fist weapons :(

Comentado por 427223

This is the only fist weapon in the game designed for spellcasters.

Comentado por 460863

According to www.maxdps.com, this has higher dps than Angry Dread for Enhancement Shamans. Still does not make ANY sense to me why, but I have my theories. I have been wearing it for some time now, and it did amazing for me. I had Wraith Strike MH and Angry Dread as my OH, and people would say I didn't know what I was doing. Then, when I dish out more damage than them, they just leave group.

Enhancement Shamans, do not pass on this! This is a great MH unless you get Calamaties Grasp in the same run, then pass to someone else.

:)

Comentado por 370864

I've seen something similar before... http://www.revolucaodigital.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/halo-3-needler.jpg

Comentado por 370864

This is still good for enh shamans because a lot of your damage comes from lightning bolts

Comentado por Erethzium

Yep, despite being a fist weapon, this is great for Resto/Balance druids and Ele/Resto shamans.

Comentado por rudyshooter

I'm Enhance shaman and I /yell: THIS IS MY BIS for ALL 3 SHAMAN SPECs!
Especially for Enhance, spellhance need it to maximize aoe (and lots of single target as well) damage.

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