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Comentado por 13310

If you were confused (like me) just what the hell is new about this recipe (and the healing potion injector) here's your answer: it's BoP instead of BoE. This will very likely mean that it will drop from some fixed mob (no more world drop), but that only engineers can have it drop.

The pre-2.4 version (found here) will most likely remain in-game and still be useable, although it will not drop from mobs any more. Blizzard has done something like this before, I can't remember to which item though.

Edit: even though this recipe was added both this and the BoE Healing Potion Injector scheme still drop in 2.4

Comentado por 98049

Does it still have charges??

Comentado por 34157

The Schematic just dropped for me last night- now the question is, will these be worth more after 2.4 or less? If people have to go out and pick them up for themselves if they want them, will a BOE version be a hot commodity? Or will my schematic become BOP when the patch hits?

Comentado por 67061

will still be boe, items that have changed before have remained. example questreward ring from stratholme was boe, went bop but the ones existing were still avaliable on ah etc.

Comentado por asole

Drop off Kael'thas in Magister's Terrance (both normal and heroic)

Comentado por Thottbot

whats the Cooldown of this? :)

Comentado por Thottbot

It fits in an engineering bag, so if you're carrying around a lot of engineering bombs and trinkets, you can toss in a big stack of potions and still not have it clutter up your lootin' bags.

Comentado por Thottbot

does it share the cd of a mana pot?

Comentado por Thottbot

Can u use the injector + mana ruby ? or any1 of the other conjured stones ?

Comentado por Thottbot

Engineering is awesome, you just need to know how your stuff works! All I ever hear is people complaining that Engineering sucks for Battlegrounds, and they make worthless crap... Of course they suck for Battlegrounds, or that would give engineers a rediculous advantage!

Like I said, you need to know how your stuff works. Grenades/bombs WILL NOT win a duel for you, but if there are 3 or so mobs on you you can toss a bomb, do a total of about 1600+ damage, and get a nice 3-5 second stun to heal yourself back up to full.. If you are in an instance, and there are 6-8 mobs on you, you can do well over 3500+ damage total... they are a friggen asset. Grenades have smaller blast radius, but can be thrown 45 yards... That's farther than a hunter can shoot, or a mage can cast. The Goblin Rocket Launcher gives you 45 yard range too, and does 1000-1500 damage on a non-crit, as well as a nice 3 second stun, sure it has a 5 second cast, but I seem to see alot of Mages charging up Pyroblast, and I'm sure alot of them will tell you how 'useless' it is.

Engineering has many many trinkets that can be used for many many purposes. The Goblin Jumper Cables, and Goblin Jumper Cables XL will give you a 25% chance and 75% chance, respectively, to ressurect your Priest/Pally/Shammy when you wipe, or your friend when you get ganked. I am a Druid, and can Combat Res every half hour, but the cables are a freaking asset, nonetheless. Many other trinkets are of limited value in a duel, I admit, but they are hells-of-fun in PVE, when I get my pet bombling running around beside me, or set my goblin dragon gun off when I am in Bear Form... fire breathing bear is HILARIOUS... Engineers later get kind of a secondary Hearthstone, to Everlook or Gadgetzan, which I imagine is useful, but I never really use.

Engineers can mimick other classes... I can Sap with my Goblin Rocket Helmet, and Mind Control with my Gnomish Mind Control Cap. The Deepdive Helmet helps an absolute ton when dueling in the water (YES, it happens sometimes...). Rocket boots increase run speed a whole bunch, which is the equivilant of a Rogue, or Cat-Form Druid's Dash. I dont need keys for doors, as I can blast them open with Seaforium Charges (Doesn't work on chests though.)

Engineering is absolutely useless if you don't know how to use it, but many tricks of the trade give you many "last resorts" when in a duel or swamped by mobs... which, sure, might 'fizzle', but might save your ass, so quit complaining.

I can make amazing guns, amazing scopes, amazing bullets, which can rake in amazing cash. My pet dragonlings give me about an extra 40 dps when things get to dicy. WE CAN MAKE REPAIR BOTS which are the difference between quitting an instance before the last boss, and redoubling our efforts to get that last drop you wanted.

Goggles are very useful to clothies, and I just learned to make a leather pair which can be absolutely amazing, if I luck out on the enchant I get.

Parts are important to some quests, which I can make for a decent amount of money, and the Deadly Blunderbuss sells like mad on AH for 2g, while the mats are worth about 30s. We can make Salt Shakers for Leatherworkers.

Like I said tho, you need to know how to use engineering. I recommend that you use TrinketMenu 3.55, which will help you organize all the fun/effective trinkets you pack around, swapping them out when they are on cooldowns. I, myself, have about 8 trinkets in my inventory, and use all of them, all the time. =D

Anyways, thanks for listening to this rant.. Like I said, dont expect engineering to bail you out of stupid situations that you get yourself into. It kinda gets me when people say engineering sucks, before they bother to put any time or effort into learning how it works. ALCHEMY SUCKS, it's a waste of time and money, and potions are boring to make/use/sell. So HA!

Comentado por Thottbot

Mostly agree with the above post. Engineering is fun, it is useful and it COULD be a money maker. My 60 pally has financed his epic mount quest which cost me like 500g entirely by making and selling thorium shells as an example(that was before BC expansion). My 70 hunter makes his own "blue" ammo. Various trinkets are a lot of fun to use.

However, with the new expansion it would be nice for Blizz to come up with some engineering stuff that allows you to level your skill to 375 a little easier. My skill is currently at 355 and it's really difficult to level it now. It took me over 100 g in mats to level from 352 to 355. There is nothing "orange" that I can create. Several things I can make are yellow, some are green and they all require relatively expensive various mats. If any Blizz people read this, please create something that we can sell to non-engineers (besides the adamantite rifle that noone wants to buy) and still level out skill.

Comentado por Thottbot

Other than being cheap skill ups, flares are good at marking locations.

Green flare = where I will pull the mob to.
White flare = where you guys need to stand.

Also why is it that every engineering item ends up being a discussion about other eng items? Or Eng itself?

Comentado por Thottbot

They should make this a rep reward. Cause I have been looking for this beauty since BC and I have NEVER seen it on the AH.

I mean look, 9 drops since BC ?

Yeah there are probably more but ye gods...

Comentado por Thottbot

forget whether engineer is useless or not.. or whether the mana potion injector is useless or not... what really matters for engineers is when does the skill up for these things go green?

Comentado por Thottbot

Engineering is awsome. i have Power Amplification Goggles on my warlock. and those have +46 stam.. that is VERY good for a lvl 50. I also made 2 Gnomish Poultryizer which each has 45 stam.
yes, leveling engineering is Very expensive and i know that i have spent way more then 1000g lvling it from 1-350+ And like the long post avobe... everything they said is true. its fun in pvp and all that crap. So if you dont like it. drop the amazing profession, stfu and get something els.

Comentado por Thottbot

ok im engi and im a mage i got htis for 25g. i never seen it that low, and its gr8! i had 100 mana pots so htats 20 bag spaces with this its now 5. so if u think this is crap ur a noob >< the mats to make it prff about 10g tops if u buy form AH if u got mining jsut the price fo a little bit of leather

Comentado por Thottbot

As of patch 2.3 this will be usable by anyone... good news for engineers. :)

Comentado por Thottbot

This is just a random world drop then? Would love to get this schematic for my Healadin.

Comentado por Thottbot

well as of 2.3 the price for this schematic shot up to 1000gold buyout since it is one of the few things engineers can actually sell to other non engineers.

Comentado por Thottbot

It dropped in Nagrand while I was farming clefthoof meat for the cooking daily. Right outside of Garadar , the entrance that is towards Shatt. Dropped off a Clefthoof Bull.

Comentado por Thottbot

Id say they fixed it now where this can really make engineers money. I got the pattern on my priest a while back, and come last patch this is nolonger a engineer only item. meaning all those serious raiders that have limited bag space are willing to give up gold. i typicaly make between five to ten gold off each, but when you craft 50 and they all sell. it adds up fast.

Comentado por Thottbot

Engineering is useful and on the ZA patch you can make flying helicopters now and that is useful in many ways. I love not having to buy arrows and bullets when i can make a 5 pack. The goggles are awesome too beacuse the quest in zangarmarsh gives you the mote extractor and the goggles let me see the clouds and saved some primals there and sold them for some $$

Comentado por Thottbot

it dropped for me yesterday, but i don't know how much i should sell it for? ;S any1 got some ideas ?

Comentado por Thottbot

I read some of the comments here about how all this does is save the person three bag spaces. Well, if you're only carrying around 20 mana potions, sure, it isn't worth it.

But in our raid, the raid leader is often carrying around three to four bags worth of mana potions because he sells them to people and uses quite a few of them himself as a healer. He never has bag space for other items he might want to bring along.

As for me, I like to carry 40 to 60 mana potions per raid and I use quite a few of them. Having two or three of these made saves me 6 to 9 bag spaces. That's almost an entire bag that I can use for other purposes (such as elixirs, herbs, buff food, etc).

So yeah, if you're only making one, it may seem silly, but if you're making more, it's definitely worth it.

Comentado por Thottbot

ok. everyone that posted all these redundant posts on wether not this is a good thing to have, need to go shoot themselves. OF COURSE IT IS. people if it dropped for u, u shouldnt be posting anything unless its about where and how u got it. PERIOD.and if it didnt drop, then why are u posting all this nonsense? i would like to know where i can get one. all this crap about saving space and bla bla bla, SHUTUP. is this strickly a world drop and good luck finding it? or can it be found within certain mobs? im sry but im not paying 700g for it, so good luck selling it for that, i will use the 4 bag slots rather than pay that BS price. where it drops, thats all thats needed. i saw clefthoof bulls and something in netherstorm. whats going on here peeps? can u throw us a bone

Comentado por Thottbot

I think there are two versions of this now. One is still the random world drop which is BOE.

However there is a new version which drops from Kael'thas in Heroic Magister's Terrace. This version is BOP which will only show up if there is an engineer in the group.

I am wondering if anyone knows what the true drop rate is for it to drop of Kael'thas if there is an engineer in the group?

Comentado por Thottbot

This dropped when doing the dailys on the Isle.

Comentado por Thottbot

Dropped off a Clefthoof Bull in Nagrand for me.
Though, I have no idea what it's worth.

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