Very bad decision. I was looking forward to Classic Wrath of the Lich King and the Dungeon Finder tool was the best addition ever to WoW back then. I first started Raiding back in Wrath and made dungeon grouping so much easier.
I heard that they gonna remove the dual talent option aswell because it removes your spec fantasy.
I have been slowly leveling a toon in BC classic with the expectation that my favorite expansion was coming soon. So excited for a couple minutes when the announcement was made and then they burst the bubble with the announcement of removing LFG. Guess I'm not playing after all.
Terrible decision. If people dont want to use it, they are free, but let us enjoy the game the way we want.
Esfand is the one to blame! https://youtu.be/quAswj9zJk0?t=1128
How many of you do not know what removing dungeon finder is? I wont play, blah, blah. nothing to do with the 1% stuff or anything.This is a good change, still can find groups either in chat or LFG tool.You still have the dungeon finder tool from TBC.Just not the current LFG we have now in retail that ports you to a dungeon.
Greetings!I have spent hours reading EVERY single comment posted on this thread (that exists currently) and now I'm adding my share to the lot. Now-- the matter at hand that seems to be the major hot-topic since the announcement of Wrath Classic...Here is to the #Anti-DungeonFinder crowd! I've taken long consideration on both sides and from what I can gather... the minute voice that spats Dungeon Finder is the bane of existence. I've got news for you. The feature did not lead to the existential downfall of the overall gameplay. For those of you who keep the broken-record act, I applaud you for constancy, but suffice to say, your opinion to justify and validate the eradication of the specified featured has yet to have a shred of evidence to dispute your so-called claims. Lets shed some light on the subject, shall we? Each and everyone who is opposed to the idea of the Dungeon Finder feature keeps using the same repetitive case that has no stance to say the least. In order to pose an appropriate argumentative case, you need to back-up that case with a reasonable defense. Which, mind you, none have yet to present a reasonable or respectable defense towards their proclaimed 'argument.' While the Dungeon Finder feature certainly has disputable flaws, a vast majority have spoken loud and clear in the span of a few days of the announcement. Demanding the inclusion of the Dungeon Finder feature. Why? Well, just as you keep back tracking on the "it wasn't introduced until late game anyway, so why are you complaining at all?" We. Know. Most of us who were banking and hyped for Wrath Classic KNEW that the inclusion of the Dungeon tool was gonna be introduced late game. What we were hoping is that the feature would be introduced early rather than later. That does not mean you need to come out of the wood-works, keep regurgitating the same broken-record theme, and force your ideologies upon those who wish to play the game their way. We all want the slice of the pie, piece of that cake or candy. Not everyone wants to eat that pie/cake/candy the same way as you.Those of you who hop on the bandwagon of #Nochanges, that's a bit late to the punch bowl. Of course those who jumped on the ship are quick to sink it so long as it pertains to their interest and benefits. This comes to no surprise or shock for the vast majority who have spoke on wanting the inclusion of Dungeon Finder. After all, the announcement has only been three days or so now and yet more and more people have came forth with their claim of Dungeon Finder being an extremely prominent feature. Providing various reasons that, by comparison, don't sound like a broken-record compared to those against the feature.Those who are complaining that the game was/is better off without the feature. Well, that's clearly your opinion, that does not mean ruin the gameplay for the rest of us. As they say-- "If you don't like it, don't play it." You are welcome to go back to Vanilla if you don't want to keep into the spirit of the classic-changes, which they destroyed the moment boosts were introduced. So why complain now? Especially since they announced that despite the removal of the most prominent feature, they are forcing people to pocket-boost (which is not any better). Not only is this a quick cash-grab ploy... did it occur to any of you that perhaps they were deliberately trying to ruin Classic to force people back to retail? Their new expansion release looks far more promising than Wrath. While the expansion does show promise, their tactic of redirection is definitely at play here. Whether you want to admit it or not. No DF + Pocket-boosts = Better gameplay? Okie dokie, if that's what you want 👍Let's pay a level-booster and afk the entire dungeon, racking in that quick-paid exp. Better gameplay? Okie dokie, if you think so 👍Let's force people to spam lfg in trade chat or some off-handed addon and count that as the biggest draw to the 'social aspect' of the game, they will surely eat that up! Better gameplay? If you say so... 👍Let's commit to the #Nochanges but then go against the entire ideology that the changes represented in the first place. Better gameplay? If that's what you want to believe 👍Let's make sure that elitism status is the pro-norm. Better gameplay? Alright... I guess 👍*Twirls a finger in annoyance...* I could go on and on but you get the idea!Every single broken-record post is spitting out: It kills the social aspect, kills the games immersion, kills their elitism status. Of course they are up in arms. The minute amount of voices that got heard, specifically by choice selection, are now digging their own graves...Not once has the Dungeon Finder feature killed the socialization aspect of the game. Stop trying to validate your opinion with the common trope of-- 'I'm a socially inept individual that wants to force people to talk and like me.' Stop blaming the feature on the fact that nobody wants to be forced to talk to you. That only entices people to not want to engage with you all the more or even remember you after the Dungeon is completed. "If you don't like the feature, don't use it." That simple or better yet! "Go back to Vanilla." (Oh the irony...) Nobody is stopping you from going back to the old-content and sticking to that gamestyle and ideology.What I find annoying is how everyone is arguing how the Dungeon Finder feature killed the classic game, when it never did (even when introduced late in-game) its still apart of classics entire launch process. You know what isn't? Boosts (since tbc launch), in-game racials/barber shop changes they admitted in the announcement video they were including in Wrath from retail. Those alone take away from the classic feel entirely. Yet not a single soul is arguing those changes, just Dungeon Finder, which is absolutely ADDED to the classic immersion (late game or not). It's amusing to see folks believe that Duel specialization is going to be the 'saving grace' when it's not. It's also the same feature that was introduced late game as well. You might as well cancel Duel-spec as an option while your at it since it changes the classic feel just as much as the Dungeon Finder feature so many proclaim to be a bad asset to the growth of overall game's environment. "Blah blah blah... it kills the social aspect... blah blah blah... it kills the immersion... blah blah blah... it's an unwanted feature that kills the classic feel... blah blah... keep elitism, botting and boosters alive!" Nevertheless, to end this ranting note...We. Have. Spoken. Include Dungeon Finder!
First of all STOP THE GOLD DKP THAT RUINS THE GAME Second thing, The only joy and fun is the Dungeon finder why in hell it will be removed? why we must waste hours and hours waiting to get into groups or groups that needs carries?Third, Learn how private servers are handling their own servers BETTER than yours!Classic was great until later on when GDKP came and ruins it same scenario goes with TBC and everyone quitting because of GDKP it's just a freaking simple thing remove it or do big changes to prevent people from abusing it and everything will be fine.
Great post and I agree with most of it. It's a shame max 10 comments further down, there will come another classic Andy with the exact same broken record claims, that all got debunked multiple times already. The only thing I want to correct is, the barber shop was introduced in WotLK. It was patch 3.0.2 to be precise. It didn't have all the features that will be included now, but you could change the hairstyle and hair color for sure. I still remember How I changed my hairstyle and color to some new options, that were introduced in WotLK.Greetings friend! Thank you for responding to my post. Regardless of when they introduced the barbershop feature, the valid point still remains. They intend to take 'retail' equivalent changes and implement them into the structure of the feature. It still takes away the originality the barbershop had, as painful as it was back then, but the barbershop still had a severe amount of limitations per-customization via racial options. If I implied that it was introduced late-game, it was not intentional. I'm not gonna dispute the time frame certain features were introduced, that much is clear! And I am certainly not arguing against your correction. In fact, I appreciate you reminding me even more so when it was introduced. That was extremely early, second hot-fix patch to be precise. The point is... even with the poor limitations, they still intend to take from retail and add to classic, which they've already done since tbc was introduced (not that I'm particularly moaning/groaning about the boosts lol-- it was an extra feature people could have taken or left *shrugs*) needless to say, I'm not disagreeing! Just merely pointing out their early or late intentions and those who are trying to twist the logics as if though they are irrefutable facts (that make them sound heavily like a broken-record). They also plan to change the passive-racials of all the races from retail to Wrath as well. It was definitely noted in the video and it peeved me greatly. What peeves me even more is how they are taking the most well-liked feature and discarding it entirely, while still keeping to changes as if though that's what the entire community wants. Yet too many are hellbent on arguing the Dungeon Finder (added late-game or not as per-classic immersion) but won't jump on the defense of the other features they openly admitted they were adding that absolutely take away from the classic entirely (like boosting)? Ok 👍 they really think these certain changes are what the entire community wants, it clearly isn't lol. Let's trash the DF feature because it killed classic-immersion, but excuse the fact that it was added in the original release schedule (adding validation to their delusional perspective that one specific feature caused the spiral downfall of the entire game)... and completely ignore the true ideology of the #Nochanges that took a stance about touching subjects of retail inclusive items brought to classic. Better gameplay? Delusional validation of obvious narcissism and ignorance, but too each own of course 👍Thank you! And unfortunately the 'Andy's' will always be an endless cesspool of ignorance and narcissism. They all want to blame a feature as the downfall but refuse to take accountability that they are the reason that is causing the downfall and not specifically a feature? Ah well! What can you do?Additional clarification-- I'm not implying in any way, shape or form, that the barbershop shouldn't be included nor should the retail inclusive changes they want to add. On the contrary! I'd absolutely love to see the barbershop. I 'personally' can take or leave the glorifcation of these retail changes. While I might not like the retail inclusive changes to the barbershop, I'm not going to discourage others from using it or taking it away entirely just because I might not like certain aspects. That's not the point being made here, but I digress!
I was just about to resub and start playing through Classic again to prepare for this. I have waited for WotLK Classic since the announcement of Vanilla Classic.Thanks for saving me more money, Blizz. Unbelievable how bad the company has deteriorated.
Bad change and the dev responds at twitter clearly shows they don't care.They will see clearly how bad it will go down the road.It may will reach a point of no return and even if they add it later it will be as bad as what happened with Shadowlands " Unless this change is only at the start of LK classic ? it may be good in someway only if they bring the tool within 2~4 months"But, Dev again and again they don't show respect to the playersI still haven't forgotten about the LGF tool change that happened at the Legion's exp end, they restricted alot of addons/usage etc for the LFG tool .Why they did that ? for some sort play-time metrics .. Really ... Not because LFG/addons where used to allow some pps to auto-join and barely do nothing to get a WQ done .What they never cared to clearly mentioned is that " addon users are the one who are dealing with those leechers/afkers joining their WQing" and that is not a problem ... if u insall an addon it is your choice to deal with it I kept dealing them and even welcomed them if no trolling happening to my WQing. look at what happened to current LFG tool ... u can't copy/past, u can't easily just left click on a quest and look for pps to it with, u can't even use it till almost max level in which it ruined some of the gaming experiance to newcomers and alts.