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Commento di Rozenberg

The fight against Thorim is split between two phases. The first one requires you to fight your way to Thorim by fighting multiple types of trash mobs in the Arena, the second one will let you face Thorim himself.

The first part of the fight is split in 3 mini-phases (Jormungar > Iron Dwarves > Hallway). Thorim will use a few abilities during the arena event, do not bother attacking him because he is protected by Sheath of Lightning.

You will first encounter a Jormungar Behemoth and a few NPCs from the opposite faction fighting in the Arena.

Once the NPCs and the Jormungar are dead, a lot of constructs (melee, casters, and healers) will jump into the arena from the stands and you will have to take care of them with only one part of your raid while the other part runs through the hallway on the left to reach Thorim.

As soon as you reach Thorim at the end of the hallway, he will jump in the Arena where the first part of your raid is and will engage them.

Hard Mode - Sif
If you reach Thorim within 3 minutes, he will not be affected by Touch of Dominion and have 25% more damage and health. Additionally, he will be helped by his wife Sif. You cannot kill her, she will just attack the raid while you're fighting Thorim.

Commento di 275081

Thorim?

The guy from the Storm Peaks quest?

Commento di 252897

Extremely simple fight on 10-man.

Split your raid in half, one group (A) having one tank, one healer and 2 dps while the other one (B) has all the remaining players (Pref AoE dps).

At the first part (Jormungar + 4 captured soldiers) you can not fail, just tank the mobs and AoE them down.

After the mobs die, Thorim will stall babbling in confusion and Group A should pull the lever on the side of the arena and begin running through the gauntlet. The gauntlet itself is pretty simple, the only thing you need to watch out for is the big mob in the end of the first hallway, he will constantly "explode" the sides of the rooms which deal hefty damage if you stand on the wrong side. You can see which side will explode by looking at the mobs hands, which have fire coming out of them before the explosion comes. Careful while killing the mob too, he as a damage reflect buff. The other big mob before the end isnt much of a threat, he places a buff on one of the players fighting him which immobilizes and deals damage after a few seconds Oh, and while running to Thorim, in the last hall way, hug the sides unless you want to get stunned for ~20 seconds. Overall, its very easy and with 4 players, not a problem at all.

While the gauntlet is done, adds will spawn in the arena where the remaining players are. Basically, its a big AoE zerg, where you target the sentinels first. Rogues are esp. good in the arena, tricks/dismanle/aoe works wonders.

Once the gauntlet is finished, Thorim jumps down and the "real" fight begins. AoE down the last adds and nuke down Thorim while avoiding the lightning coming out of the wall (Looks like multiple lightning bolts).

Oh, and if you fancy a laugh, try having ALL the players go in to the gauntlet. We didnt know what the %#/()= we were supposed to do and well, we got owned. Badly. Thorim didnt like it.

Commento di d3nyd

This is a really fun and somewhat easy boss fight. On Normal mode, just be sure to stack 6 people (2 heals, a tank, 3 dps) in the arena and send the other four in the hallway. You'll probably have to take your time to NOT get the hard mode.

Commento di 258417

Keypoints to avoid failure:

Hallway:
1) Look at the big guy's hand at the end of the hall to see which side is going to get blown up. Yell in vent to signal it so nobody gets nuked.
2) Near the end when you're at the top platform with Thorim, stay on the right edge of the wall or else you'll get stunned in a antimagic zone. In addition make sure to jump off the platform as soon as you can, as the platform will do a 3000/tick lightning aura.

Arena:
1) Spread apart as his Hammer of Justice is "aoe" and will hit nearby targets.
2) When lightning generator is on you, make sure to move away from the lightning orb that is generating it.

Good luck have fun!

Commento di 321573

can't believe this guy got beaten up by loken and his halls of llightning goons.

Commento di Jahamakarahl

Thorim seams to have 2 types of Enrages. The first one is if you don't reach him within the 5 minutes. the other one is 4 minutes after he gets engaged and jumps down. Wowwiki states;

"Once Thorim is activated, he will proceed with the fight, progressively gaining damage and attack speed as the fight goes on. This is a passive enrage timer, so speed is not a dependent requirement on his tank phase, but it is helpful."

This don't seam to be the case since I've personaly have experienced this enrage. He went enrage and did aproximatly 250-300k dmg per het on cloth.

This happened twice for us after 9 minutes after attacking Jormungar Behemoth. It could be that both time our other tanks died and the MT stood through hits all alone. Maby stacks gives him a berserk. In any case you should avoid this by nuking him down asap.

Commento di Artea

Runic Mending and Runic Shield can be dispelled, so having a priest casting mass dispel on the adds that appear on the floor level every now and then can stop their heals and shields in their tracks.

Edit:

Anothing finding is that dispelling Runic Detonation will cause it to immediately explode. Similar dispel results to grobbulus and his Mutating Injection.

Commento di 335958

So far, I haven't seen any comments regarding his "Unbalancing Strike". This would concievably drop a tank into the critable/crushable state for 15 seconds. Does this just require extra healing to manage, or is there a way to avoid the debuff?

Commento di 90775

The Archivum Data Disc provides the following insights when the quest is turned in:

An external influence, under illusory guise of Thorim's deceased mate, Sif, has been detected.
Mental interference from this presence dangerously close to triggering partial memory damage.
Tactical analysis suggests approaching the arena from the front and splitting secondary force through a side passage at ground level. This will maximize odds of reaching Thorim's outlook before mental domination by external presence is complete.

Commento di 223754

completed this now twice on 10 man on hard mode, here is what we had:

prot warrior
feral druid

hunter (me)
moonkin
warlock
warlock
shadow priest
elemental shaman

holy paladin
holy priest

in the gauntlet we had the warrior, holy priest, moonkin and one lock. in the arena we went ffa nuking down anything that sawned. with only 36k hp, the warbringers and evokers died in a blink of an eye, with the champions taking a little more attention.

the gauntlet team, needless to say, went as fast as they could, pulling non-stop through out, triggering hard mode with about 15-20 seconds to spare.

once thorim was in the arena, we spent about 10 seconds finishing off whatever add was left from the arena phase, debuffed the boss and popped heroism.

even with thorim's lack of debuff now, tank healing is not THAT hard, until he gets to about 4-5 stacks of his buff. at that stage, tanks and healers started rotating cooldowns to make life easier, and the elemental shaman helped out raid healing at this point as well.

things to note about sif joining the battle:
1. she uses frost nova, usually not an issue, but if you are caught in an incoming lighting charge, let the healers know you're in trouble for a dispell.
2. frost bolt volley. its really just an irritant, and the dmg from it is easily healed by judgement of light if you're lucky enough to have it.
3. blizzard. this will pull people down pretty fast. it has, at least it seemed to me, a stringer slowing effect than other blizzards, and obviously cant be dispelled. it moves round the room like the one from shade of aran, and like with that blizzard, if you get caught in it, either at the start of it or later, the fastest way out is moving towards the centre of the room or walking through it asgainst the movement.
4. at 4-5 buffs thorims chain lightning will start to one shot people after 2 jumps. speading it very important here.

good luck to those that try this, hope this info helped :)

Commento di 264004

The Unbalancing strike (reducing tanks def by 200) cannot be dodged, parried or blocked (but can miss).

Tanks will usually not survive more than two hits while under the effect of the strike, as it reduces dodge,block and parry chance as well as lifting the crit chance against the tank. The strike itself does significant dmg.

So for any second tank: keep your eye on the mts unitframe or be prepared when any bossmod anounces the tank being under the effect of unbalancing strike and immidiately hit the taunt button and be prepared for resist/miss. A wasted second means much likely the death of your tank.

Activate Trinkets to help your healers.

As the buff on thorim stacks, tanks should consider using shield-wall-like abilities.

Commento di 262888

The most reliable and easy way to do 25man is to have
1 tank, 1 healer,1 hunter, 2 mages and 1-2 more dps in gauntlet. This will leave arena group with 5-6 healers and a lot of dps to handle arena adds.
Mages should sheep healer and 2nd small add. So tank will not recieve much damage and 1 healer will be enough for gauntlet fight.
Second big guy will spawn mobs all the time untill you engage him.
Sheep 2, kill another 2 starting from healer and let hunter misdirect big guy to tank before he spawn any additional mobs. Burn you CDs to kill 3 adds and kill big guy.

On 10man fight is really easy. 6ppl on arena, 4 ppl on gauntlet and just aoe all adds down.

Commento di hellshadow

I would personally like to see some extracted sound files for this fight, if possible.

Commento di 86556

A few words of help for hardmode attempts:

Sif is more or less only annoying, her damage is not too hard to outheal but the things you should keep in mind are the slows and roots she does, after blinking she will wait around 2-3 seconds to do a frostnova, its actually possible to move out before she does it even if she blinks on you. The big danger is getting into the charged sectors cause of roots/slows.

The 'timer' we considered helpfull for this fight is with the stacks, we estimated his death around 10 stacks of the selfbuff, but it's easy for your tanks to do die before this. We decided just to let the tanks and healers use their cooldown somewhat planned when the stacks hit 7+. So try to get 10% health of him for before each stack.

Be prepared for a tank to die at 9+ stacks just keep nuking and don't panic, you can kite him around for a long while before you wipe.

One more thing, note that with the stacking selfbuff he also increases his nature dmg and this adds up quite much. Never stand in the charged sectors and avoid chaining the chain lightning especially at the last part of the fight.

Our setup was: Warrior (tank), Deathknight (tank), Druid (healer), Priest (healer-holy), hunter, mage, warlock, shaman (elem), rogue and priest (shadow).

Wasn't a very hard hard-mode, took us about 2 hours. Changing to 2 instead of 3 healers made our difference.

Commento di 153007

What? No sounds scripts :[?
Edit: Thanks Sargenus.

Commento di NokoFace

I was surprised myself...Ah well, here ya go!

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_Berserk01.wav")
My patience has reached its limit!

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_Defeated01.wav")
Stay your arms! I yield!

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_HardEpi01.wav")
You! Fiend! You are not my beloved! Be gone!

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_HardEpi02.wav")
Behold the hand behind all the evil that has befallen Ulduar! Left my kingdom in ruins, corrupted my brother and slain my wife!

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_HardEpi03.wav")
And now it falls to you, champions, to avenge us all! The task before you is great, but I will lend you my aid as I am able. You must prevail!

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_JumpDown01.wav")
Impertinent whelps! You dare challenge me atop my pedestal! I will crush you myself!

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_Misc01.wav")
Behold the power of the storms and despair!

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_Misc02.wav")
Do not hold back! Destroy them!

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_Misc03.wav")
Have you begun to regret your intrusion?

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_NormEpi01.wav")
I feel as though I am awakening from a nightmare, but the shadows in this place yet linger.

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_NormEpi02.wav")
Sif... was Sif here? Impossible! She died by my brother's hand. A dark nightmare indeed.

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_NormEpi03.wav")
I need time to reflect. I will aid your cause if you should require it. I owe you at least that much. Farewell.

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_P1Wipe01.wav")
Failures! Weaklings!

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_Slay01.wav")
Can't you at least put up a fight!

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_Slay02.wav")
Pathetic!

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_Start01.wav")
Interlopers! You mortals who dare to interfere with my sport will pay... Wait--you...

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_Start02.wav")
I remember you... In the mountains... But you... what is this? Where am--

/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\Thorim\\UR_Thorim_YSHelp01.wav")
Golganneth, lend me your strengh! Grant my mortal allies the power of thunder!

Commento di 261770

Some minutes ago I tanked him on hard (U25) from 100 to 1 with my Paly (feral taunted 3 times to be second in aggro for safety) and I'm still trembling.

Definitly a palyboss from what I can say now .. capped block takes 8-10% of his whitedamage off the scale and when he starts to throw blows each 0.3 seconds this pays of big.

Need second tankCD. Gief!

Commento di 238144

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this before, but "Thorim" appears to be based on the old god "Thor" from nordic mythology, just like Freya is.

Thor was the god of thunder in norse mythology. He had Mjolnir, his magical hammer which would return to him every time he threw it. Thorim reflects this with his Stormhammer ability.

Likewise, Thor's wife was named Sif, just like Thorim's wife.

Commento di evermore

A large portion of Northrend is based on norse mythology and viking culture. Not only Thorim and Freya, but Hodir as well. In addition, most of the Howling Fjord and large portions of Icecrown, including the Utgarde instances.

Commento di Okacz

Many people are suprised , that they find Thorim in Ulduar, after doing quests for him. In fact Thorim was cheated by Loken. He murered Thorim's wife, Sif, and told him, that it was Ice Giands work. Thorim turned against his allies and felt in a long depression. Thats why players find him alone, away from the entire world.
Thorim had been corrupted by Yogg-Saron. The Old God made an illusion of Thorim's wife, Sif, to keep him corrupted in Ulduar. When he engages, he dont want to attack players at first, cuz he reminds, that they helped him. It is Sif who tells him to attack.
After dealing with him the "curse" is broken and Torim is friendly again. He can help you then in Yogg-Saron fight.

Commento di Kaylthas

He looked better with the original model...

This one looks like a fat old man, nothing like a god of thunder.

Commento di Finbarr

After all we did for him!
After we got him off his lazy butt,
Reforged alliances with the frost giants for him,
and fixed his armor,
THIS is how he repays us?
By getting with your buddies Freya, Hodir, and Mimiron,
and trying to beat us to death?
/huff

(Note, this was sarcasm.)

Commento di 337736

i cant believe this guy! he wasted my life flying all around storm peaks on a slow skeleton, making me do all these nice things for him. AND NOW HE WNATS TO KILL ME? I CANT BELIEVE HIM.

Commento di Alira

Now there's one thing about the unbalancing strikes that people fail to mention, it is correct that it reduces your defense skill by 200. It was asked if this made the tank vulnerable to crushing blows, and was stated it does not. This is indeed incorrect!

The level threshold for crushing blows is 4 levels, but this is calculated by asumin a level 83 mob has a weapon skill of 415 (83*5) and a level 80 player has 400 (a tank at least 540) defense. A difference in attackers weapon skill and defenders defense skill of 20 is required in order to calculate crushing blows into the combat rolls.

Now consider the tank having his defense lowered by 200, leaving Thorim with 415 weapon skill and the tank with 340 (assuming he is not over-def'ing his crit immunity (some are, some don't)) This is a difference of 75.. 75 > 20 and thus you will be subject to crushing blows while under the effect of unbalancing strikes.

I as a protection Paladin recorded a crushing blow upon myself during an attempt last week, though did not get a screenshot of this happening, but I can assure you that while under the effect of Unbalancing Strikes, Crushing Blows is a factor to be dealt with.

Commento di Iceleaf

If you are having clothies or problems with the arena group dying fast because adds aggro you instantly theres one mechanic that should help with this. One user in Elitist Jerks noted that person who is closest to Thorim during arena gets instant aggro of the adds. So if you are healer or otherwise "squishy" dont go past your tank and you should do fine.

Edit: Naturally powergain aggro, heal aggros still apply.

Commento di 211544

In the mountains!

Commento di 342791

I remember you... In the mountains!

Commento di Sallara

I remember this fight...In the Mountains.

Commento di 215030

I liked the first model of Thorim :) When I did the quest when he jumps on his drake I laughed.. He had the "sitting and thinking" position :P Looked weird and I laughed for a long time in my head xD