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Commentaire de Asher

Not a bad mace for a pally if they plan on healing at the lower levels. Other than that, it really doesn't have much affect for priests because of the illusionary rod and hypnotic dagger available to them in the same instance.

If you don't need it as a pally, sell it and take the 1.8g

Commentaire de 8271

I used it for my pally it was a major improvement for my pally cuz ive been using verigan's fist forever. I love it with my SM shield

Commentaire de GnarGnar

Some may say otherwise but this mace is actually a very nice rogue weapon for its level. It is nice and slow and has awesome top-end damage for a mainhand weapon.

Commentaire de 24539

I hope to get this mace for my shaman. Not only would it's speed be ideal for using stormstrike with, but the added healing never hurt either.

Commentaire de 47751

This is a great mace. I just hit 40 on my enhance shaman and im using this to duel wield with. Not only does it hit good it has an extra healing boost that is always good with a shaman.

Commentaire de 69575

I ran SM cathedral and this dropped along with Aegis of the Scarlet Commander (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=7726#go-to-comment-120021)and i use with my shaman if I'm healing and very handy with armor from shield and increased healing with mace :D

Commentaire de 39022

If your a rogue in sm cath and this drops, don't hesitate to roll need over a healer. This mace is the best twink mh at lv 39 for a rogue <due to highest top-end dmg>, and if you spec combat for pvp, mace spec is the best choice imo. I wish I would see more rogues with this weapon, too many of them just look at the stats and are turned off. This is my favorite weapon in the game because it's completely misunderstood, underused and looks great in the hands of a rogue.

Commentaire de 64199

With all this discussion abou this actually being a good rogue weapon i disaggre as https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=19556 or the horde equivalent have 2 less top end dmg and the same speed but have +8 Strenth which will make up for it making it the best rogue Main Hand for lvl30-39 PvP.

Commentaire de 39022

This mace is easily obtainable and most Rogues will have at least one attempt at it because they are doing the sm quest for xp. The already mentioned https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=19556 you get from spending a few hours in bg's, something not everyone power leveling would want to do. The https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=13026 is a boe that is rarely ever on the ah these days due to the lack of people killing level 45 mobs. Also, for those hardcore bg twinkers, imo a full combat mace spec https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/talent=f0xZGcV0bVp is just as useful if not superior for a lv 39 rogue twink.

Commentaire de 24552

Funny, I just checked what stats a Goblin Nutcracker (green 1h mace) would give if it had the "of Healing" random enchantment. It provides the exact same healing (and bonus damage), bar the 8 spirit.

Can somebody seriously convince me that those 8 points of spirit would make or break ANY fight for you caster guys?

Commentaire de 124192

i wanna get this 4 me resto shammy to and does any 1 on alliance side in ruin battle ground know the meaning of the word TEAMWORK!!!

Commentaire de 125450

I'm having a 70 epic Rogue and am currently levelling a Priest (level 36 now).

Just the thought of a Rogue wielding a +healing item makes me shudder. Anyway, if you want to look ridiculous with this thing in your MH, get a boost, dont steal it from healers. Maybe you're lucky and also get Whitemane's Chapeau, cough. (...)

Blizz should nerf the DPS so it is less interesting for people new to the game and the Rogue class.

Commentaire de 135590

I see many of you argue about using it with rogues, well in my experience this was a useful weapon for holy and prot paladins aswell as for the shamans. Im planning on getting this for my shaman due to the speed and top hand damage been a very useful and easy to get wep. I believe any healer or dual wield char should focus on getting this unless your a warrior .

Commentaire de 126159

Good for resto druids with the +healing and nice if you already have the set from Graveyard and lib just swap the dagger
Hypnotic Blade + Orb of the Forgotten Seer
with this item and its all good.

Commentaire de 111622

Twink Healing Paladin FTW!!

Also put this on https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=34010

Commentaire de 155362

the healing is good for priest,but the damage and spell damage would help resto shaman and resto druid in my opinion.better for them because they use spells more than healing priest so they can do two jobs. best lv30-39 resto shaman or resto druid 1h mace. STOP USING IT ROGUES!

edit:
holy paladin healing with this and a +healing sheild works well to if there is a heiling sheild at that lv, still better for resto shaman and druid and paladins out there, dont heal you got bad mana tank FTW

Commentaire de wingsofscion

This is actually a small upgrade to Deadly Kris of Healing - 2 points of healing more, and 8 spirit. I use the dagger on my shaman at the moment, because the mace has yet to drop. I switch out for the Hypnotic Blade for solo play, but I also managed to pick up a Steadfast Buckler of Healing. I would love to have this mace in combination with the shield, as it would make an awesome combo for a pally or shaman healer, either leveling or twink.

To edit this due to changes for 4.0.1 - This may now be considered a straight upgrade to the Deadly Kris of Healing, depending on playstyle. This mace yields about the same in spellpower (at best, one extra, at worst, two less), but the 8 spirit is now useful to all healers, so provides a bit of a boost in terms of mana regeneration.

Commentaire de 181825

Hey just wondering would this be a okay for a deep prot pally?

Commentaire de 190371

are you guys kidding me, this is HOLY PALLY PRIEST RESTO DRUID AND SHAMAN WEP, your out of your mind if you think this is for rogues i mean cmon sword dagger=rogue maces is good for rogues but much rather ardent custodian, this mace has no business with a rogue. or any other class besides the ones i just named

Commentaire de 219269

Just got it yesterday. YAY!

Commentaire de 190371

Lol you idiots hand of rightousness has nothing to do with a rogue no benefit for it, yea it does dmg but no agility no nothing just spirit that you dont need if your a rogue, only a noob would equip this wep to a rogue. and want to @#$% OFF holy pallys and priest in SM. perfect mace for all healing classes Resto And holy. best mace for a healidin 39 twink, thats my opinion.

Commentaire de 267194

Is this weapon good for leveling a protection specced paladin

Commentaire de RGsweden

It's sad that this is the best healing weapon for a 39 twink pally :( would want a weapon with some stam and/or intellect instead since pallys don't benefit anything from spirit if they are casting anyway, but hey what are you gonna do...

Commentaire de 355848

This weapon was very nice on my 39 twink paladin, especially with mongoose. I killed about 3 or 4 players at once by myself (combined with bubbling and healing, of course) awhile back when I was still in that bracket.

Commentaire de 541537

hey is this rare?

Commentaire de knarel

still nice at lvl 51 haven't found another mace with the same amount of SP

Commentaire de Thottbot

a super good priest mace, done sm at least 7 times and it hasnt dropped though:(

Commentaire de Thottbot

After my first kill of Whitemane, this dropped.
I feel pretty lucky because I had been looking for a nice mace to use with the orb quest reward from doing SM. I can not use it yet, but it looks pretty nice for a Priest like me with the + to healing spells.

Commentaire de Thottbot

..with two sides.

"But still.. is 1 mana per second worth what the rogue would gain in dps?"

Well, sure if your opinion is:

"thats what an SS rogue cares about, we dont give a flying **** about DPS"

I'm way past SM, but I couldn't help but see this glaring contradiction and comment on it.

Commentaire de Thottbot

This weapon is awesome for a shaman. As rogues have been talking about the SS benefits, this gives great procs with windfury too. I'm a 1h + shield shaman and I think that this is the best weapon out there fo my lvl. It's slow enough so the base damage is quite nice -> windfury hits on average 80+100+100 atleast! Imagine the crits then.

Also, as I use lesser healing wave during the fights, I can assure you that the +15 healing will benefit me as I might cast 2-3 wawes in a row.

About the +8 spirit then: In my opinion it's pretty stupid to say that it doesn't mean anything... Ok, if +8 spirit is all that you have in your gear, then it doesn't help you, but of course we have other equipment with spirit, so when fighting a long fight, this might be the one to give you the last and saving heal.

I'm not saying that no other classes could use this, but I was blown away by the fact that there was no decent arguments about this "being a Shaman weapon". I don't know that much about my fellow Paladins, but I guess that they would have an open slot for this weapon, if this would drop.

-Ridge Forrester - Bloodfeather

Commentaire de Thottbot

This would be great for me along with my Prophetic Cane(https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=4028/fagot-de-roseaux-akiris). I'm a resto spec druid.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I have both lvl 60 priest and lvl 60 rogue.
This weapon would be good for the following classes:

-Rogue; Highest base damage and best combat rogue weapon around this lvl.(however, the other stats on this mace wouldn't benefit rogue at all)

-Priest; Nice +healing bonus, nice spirit BUT there isn't much +healing gear around for low lvl priests and +healing gear is only good when stacked alot, same goes for spirit. As a priest, i would rather go for illusionary rod from SM library.

-Paladin; Would be ok for paladins. Nice damage and on top of that, the other nice healing stats.

-Druid; Same as priest.

-Shaman; VERY nice for shamans. +healing helps, +spirit helps and the massive damage CERTAINLY helps.

A rogue and shaman would probably use this alot. Priests and druids would probably take illusionary rod instead and paladins would probably grab The ravager or bonebiter and stick with it(considering that most paladins think they are melee dps class).

Commentaire de Thottbot

<B> should i get the hand of righteousness or the illusionary staff?

Commentaire de Thottbot

I'm a lvl 44 druid. Been running Cath for about 6 lvls now, not dropped once. One day maybe.
As for whose class this benefits its for whoevers can use maces, heal and fight. Therefore benefitting Shaman, Pally and Druid the most. Should none of said classes want or need mace then its up for grabs for anyone else who can use.

Commentaire de Thottbot

No healer would take this over Illusionary Rod. +15 healing isn't enough to stack at that level unless you have a lot of +healing greens, which is a waste from having no stats.

This item is ment for a shaman/paladin IMO because of the melee damage. But a Rogue/warrior have every reson to roll on it as well.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I got it today..a 60 shaman ran me through...i am a 35 Shaman on Stormreaver...The 2 handed Hammer both dropped in the same run..great run for me.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I'm a 39 shaman. I went to SM, hoping it would drop, I was only the healer, it was guaranteed mine. Whitemane drops it, and a warrior also rolls Need and wins...

I just left in disgust.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Hunter weapon.

Commentaire de Thottbot

why do you rogues/warriors and healers fight over that? get to 60 then you can fight over real stuff, not some low lvl crap

Commentaire de Thottbot

...i agree with the above said, while +14 is just not very much, it doesn't mean its instantly a priests/pallys, rogues should have a fair shot at this, just need roll it, who ever gets it wins, big deal. now don't get all angry at me, i'm a pally, i got this wep and the aegis of the scarlet because sometimes its handy to tank and heal, the weapon has nice dps, but i forfeited it the first time it dropped because a rogue wanted it, and he had gotten nothing the whole run (there isn't much rogue gear in SM), because i had the Heaven's Light in my bank waiting till 40, thats a higher dps better stat wep, and got mine for cheap! I now switch between the Heaven's light for dps/tanking, and the Hand of righteousness when i heal, along with the aegis.

Every one can have a shot at this one, except people who cant use maces, unless nobody in group needs it!

Commentaire de Thottbot

I'm sure when techs at blizzard added this weapon to the game they intended it to be used by casters. (Shamans/Pallies/Priests). However, there are better weapons available from Scarlet Monestary than this weapon. The Illusionary rod is more practicle. Because of it's stats it is great for grinding and healing. And if you are like me, then I would go for the Hypnotic Blade and the off-hand from SM Grave Yard for a pure dmg build. This is especillay true because as of the BC patch +healing is scaled down when you are lower then lv 60. (so I've heard)

As for the rogue, you have the coldrage daggar and torturing poker for off-hand, but nothing with high top end for main-hand. Then for combat you have 2 great swords with the quest sword (sword of omen or serenity) and the vanquishers sword. Van. = mh, omen = oh. But then there is this mace. Wow! With a top end of 19 points higher then either of those swords this is the ULTIMATE main hand weapon for a rogue at this level. For a 39 twink it is godly. Please casters, pass this to a rogue. I hope this educates people about the value this weapon has to rogues because I don't see many if any rogues ever using it.

My comments and lists of weapons are based on BOP weapons only, spending mounds of gold on a lv 39 character is just silly unless he/she will be your bg twink. Regardless this mace is clearly the best combat main-hand weapon for a rogue BOP or BOE pre lv 40, and as for BOPs partially to lv 49. Because the hand of Antu'sul has an aoe proc which limits its use in instances.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I don't think people actually understand... as a level 40 healer, +15 healing is NOT that big... Like this is a good healing weapon but don't think since it only has stats benefiting a healer, the damage is really nice making it very good for a pally, shammy, druid and rogue. So honestly Priests don't go off thinking you should get this over anyone because of all those classes you benefit the least of it because you don't melee which is why this weapon pwns. I use this with the Aegis of the Scarlet Commander (I'm a Paladin) and with Reckoning I rip people apart.

Poontality
43 Paladin
Lightnings Blade

Commentaire de Thottbot

People should not look down on rogues who roll for this weapon. It is a great weapon even if it doesn't have melee stats on it. If you do not believe me then read these 2 guides and I am sure that you will change your mind.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14542046&sid;=1

http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/wiki/rogue-hemorrhage-guide/

It isn't always just stats or DPS. Sometimes it is about top end damage. If you are a Combat rogue or
a Hemo rogue this is a great weapon.

( But don't ninja it from your healer if it is an upgrade for him and he can use it at that level)

I once got this weapon for my 39 Rogue and our healer was only lvl 35. He complained for days that he should have gotten it. I told him that he should have rolled NEED instead of GREED, I only rolled Greed and it seemed fair to me.
Besides by the time he was lvl 39 he had this mace in his bag anyway.

Commentaire de Thottbot

If you combine this with Beacon of hope

You get 37 + healing also from 12 spirit if you are holypriest you get one additional 3 + healing. If you also put on greater healing enchant 81+ healing you get a total of 121 + healing.

If you get back to the time before BC a mace with 39+ healing was considered good. The absolutely best Maces from naxxramas gives around 120 ish + healing. Naxxramas +healing as a level 39 ftw

Commentaire de Thottbot

Let me quote Amaan the Wise:

The stubborn close their mind and convince themselves of one truth. The wise keep an open mind to the different possibilities leading to and stemming from the present.

Priest/Resto Druid
At first glance this weapon seems to be the best weapon for priests/resto druids. Because this gives +healing and +spirit. Paladins and Shamans can heal too but they don't have talents that gives them additional bonus for having spirit. However +healing is not very good at this level because:

A There is not enough +healing gear for this level to make a significant difference on your heals.
B Blizzard has nerfed lower level spells so they don't benefit as much from +dmg and +healing as the highlevel spells. Why? you might ask, because in the time before BC hardcore players stacked up gear with a lot of +dmg and +healing and just casted level 1 rank spells so they never got oom.

And when it comes to the stats part well 8 spirit is just not that much. Off course you should go ahead and need roll if this drops and you have a good offhand, What I'm trying to say is that it's not worth farming SM cath for this Mace you are better off with farming for the Illusionary Rod

This weapon will save you many more times no matter if you are pvping/soloing/or healing in instances. Unless of course you are a twink and have all those BC +healing enchants on yourself then you might want to farm for this.

Rogue
This weapon was originally intended for healers but has somehow made into one of the top damage weapons at this level. If this drops you should only need on this if you are a mace specced rogue, I saw that someone else has posted a link to a weapon that you get at Maraudon that is alot better, but on the other hand in wich any case has someone else recommended that you should not need roll on one thing because you can get a better upgrade six levels later?

Shaman
My higest level shaman is level three so my knowledge about them is rather limited so I apology for that, If I post some wrong information please reply to me and I will change my comment. According to some other posters here this weapon is great for enhancement/resto shamans as they can both do good dps with it and slightly benefit from the +healing. Go ahead and need on it if you are enhancement or resto!

Paladin
If you are holy you might want to need on this since you don't have acces to the Superior Illusionary Rod With the shield that also drops from this boss it is pretty decent for a holy Paladin. I'm not sure if this mace is usefull for a retribution/protection Paladin what I do know is that there are better weapons out there for you at least after 40. Since you don't got to buy yourself a mount perhaps you can invest in a good weapon instead to level faster?

Commentaire de Thottbot

i think it is good for a shami good dps healing and allows to wear a off hand for lvl 40+

Commentaire de Thottbot

ommfg i ran it 3 times first the gay ass hat secong amulet and then then @#$%ing hat again

Commentaire de Thottbot

I have a 43 rogue and you can defifinatly get better weapons than thatat that lvl for instance i got Vanquishers sword and Sword of Omen and they are both from quests for SM

Commentaire de Thottbot

qq, would the +healing work with an enchant like battlemaster? just curious

Commentaire de Thottbot

to the comment that said the hunter got thje 2h, Did he need roll it? cos if he did id boot him and never grp with him again. i play a hunter, and we cant use maces. GOD! NOT EVERYTHING IS FOR HUNTERS

Commentaire de Thottbot

? OK hunters DO NOT neeed maces if he need that means he is a ninja! hunters only need wep with stats REMEMBER THAT

Commentaire de Thottbot

This weapon is obviously a healer/caster weapon. Having said that anyone should have a shot if they pass on it. Only players playing their first character would really want this as a dps class though as an alt funded by a 70 main could buy something way better at that level.

I agree with the gentleman above who said +15 healing is not that important at that level. It really isn't. My lvl 40 Priest has +23 healing TOTAL, but I do really well in instances because I stack up on Int and spir. My unbuffed Mana is over 4100 atm, and that allows me to heal for a long time without potting or drinking. I would take 3-4 greater heals over a total +15 - +45 healing anyday.

Commentaire de Thottbot

this is mostly a twink healing mace. most good healing weps for 30-39 bracket fall below lvl 35. why is this important because for the major healing chant to 1h wep u need a wep thats 35 or above and this is basically the only healers wep that meets these requirments for 39 twinks

Commentaire de Thottbot

Have this with +81 healing and a beacon of hope in my offhand for my 39 healing twink. Totally worth it.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

i as rogue found this when a guildie was walking me through SM it is about the weapon with the most DPS on that level so it also is a rogue weapon (the bummer is i just bought an epic (Ardent Custodian)and it seems this hammer is better) + the healing part is always handy because it also effects teh healing done on you

Commentaire de Allakhazam

man my lvl 36 shammy would love this mace and the sheild and i would have a pvp wepon Morgan's Might so i would be all set with my mace sheild and my mail all i need is some bracers and boots lf the scarlet i have the scarlert leggings,gloves,and the belt so i look like a mini herod with grunts taburd lol so if anyone on uldum sever gets anything of the scarlet that i dont have and u dont need i would very much appriciat if u gave me them ty :)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I farmed this mace for the top end dmg (I'm a combat rogue) in hopes of spending some time in WSG at level 39. It finally dropped after my 7th run and I was able to turn in another SM quest for a blue off-hand dagger. I was thrilled...

Then on my way to the battlemasters in IF not ten minutes later, I noticed I had Mythology of the Titans to turn in too. Not thinking, I swung by the NPC clicked complete and VOOM leveled to 40... After all those runs I had only half a bar left to level.

That ruined my weekend :(

-BONEHEAD

Commentaire de Allakhazam

great lvl 40 shaman DW weapon MH

Commentaire de Allakhazam

This weapon could be used for any class that can use maces

Shamans - Healing / Enchance / or even ele
Paladins - Healing / It could be used for tanking
Warriors - Slow weapon = Big hits
Rogues - Same was warriors
Priests - Healing
Druids - Healing / Balance

If theres a healing in you're group that could use it, dont be a prick and need on it, its the only good healing weapon for a few levels for healers, and you could easily replace this with a 40 weapon, all in all if noone needs it let a dps take it, otherwise give it to the healer. And to all it say its a bad dps weapon, why? Because it has +15 healing? That doesnt matter its one of the slowest and highest hitting weapons at that level.

- Love Dregothalom :3

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Got it off High Inquisitor Whitemane last night, its real nice great for a Pally! looks retty good also!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Just got mine last night was a lucky roll i'm currently level 35 cant wait until I can have my paladin equipt this.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Ok well iwas wondering whether to get this for my pally or get sword of serenity or even bonebiter, but ireally want the ravager so im really confused lol, id like this for my paladin because it has nice damage and th ehealing effects/spirit

Commentaire de Allakhazam

You need to reroll or start reading rogue guides my friend.
here is a link to a hemo build guide.

http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/wiki/rogue...hage-guide/

Weapons with 2.7 speed or slower are better for a Hemo build.
The same thing applies for Combat Rogues.
It's all about top end damage for them, NOT just the DPS.

Need another example? Then read the guide written by the master rogue, known as Rod.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.htm...6&sid=1

I would link you more sites that state this very clearly but, I think that
if you were such an expert you would have known this information already.

You my friend are an idiot. Rogues who follow guides SUCK, you must learn to think for yourself, wow is changing and Rods guide was meant mostly for pre BC rogues.

Hemo is dead, its dmg wont put you high on the dps charts. Combat is the master spec for most pve rogues, and 31/0/30 is the pvp. A good gemo build cannot be made at 39. I would love to look at your rogues spec, is he accualy hemo?

Edited, Aug 20th 2007 11:42:45pm by ddddoooommmm

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Strong for a pally, but shammys like it, too!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Do u think this would be good for a priest?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Paladin, Priest, or Shaman weapon ONLY. My main is a rogue btw and i have none of theese classes, so im not arguing just because im a paladin....

Quote by Darkelfmistrezz
very good rogue weapon too, too bad i lost roll on it twice, will be going back to SM few times again to see if i can get it. this is the hardest hitting 1h weapon in existance for a lvl40 that doesn't cost money. people like to whine about it being for healers, but they don't realize that rogues could care less if it had +healing or +int, its about the weapons DMG. i'd gladly drop +10agility for +10int if it means i get a harder hitting weapon or a higher dps. i will be 42 soon and have yet to see a 1h sword/mace that hits harder then "56 - 105 Damage". with 46-86 sword my SS/rip/GS are doing 100s-130s. so this mace should put them around 120-150. but if i can't get it, i may have to resort to van sword, same dmg but with high AP, which might put it close to this mace.
End quote

You need to reroll for you know nothing of rogues. If you take a weapon with int and sprit just because it had high dmg you need to reroll. This wep is slow and gives no rogue stats. You said you can only do a max of 120 ss's at lvl 42? When i was 39 on my rogue along time ago i used sword of serenity and vamnquishers sword, same as you. I stacked agil and attack power. I easily critted for 350ss with SS and did a 452 with berserking once. Dmg means nothing for a rogue its about speed and stats for burst dmg not hitting high. Ill never forget when i was in wsg at 39 and an amazing twink with dual wsg dags and stacked agil ambushed me for 1k then did backstab for 600, the rest of the burst dmg was so quick that i died witin 6 secs and couldnt even hit back.

Edited, Mar 8th 2007 7:43pm by ddddoooommmm

Commentaire de Allakhazam

i have to agree with awrenn i am a enhancement shammy and i would love to have this (not high enogh level yet) i can heal myself with some extra boost and i can do some nice dps with this. truly a good weapon for many classes

Commentaire de Allakhazam

im a enh shammy and i would love to have it but it has never dropped for me...

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Got it yesterday from Cathedral. We made chatedral-run 2 times, cause our mage wanted the amulet of the inquisitor. The mace droped me in the wirst run, along with the Aegis of the Scarlet Commander. My lvl 43 paly is very hapy now :)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Dps classes always whine about shadow priests rolling on items with damage... but dps classes are allowed to roll on stuff with +healing. I don't get it.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

very good rogue weapon too, too bad i lost roll on it twice, will be going back to SM few times again to see if i can get it. this is the hardest hitting 1h weapon in existance for a lvl40 that doesn't cost money. people like to whine about it being for healers, but they don't realize that rogues could care less if it had +healing or +int, its about the weapons DMG. i'd gladly drop +10agility for +10int if it means i get a harder hitting weapon or a higher dps. i will be 42 soon and have yet to see a 1h sword/mace that hits harder then "56 - 105 Damage". with 46-86 sword my SS/rip/GS are doing 100s-130s. so this mace should put them around 120-150. but if i can't get it, i may have to resort to van sword, same dmg but with high AP, which might put it close to this mace. Epée de vainqueur it isn't easy, first of it its the boss's rare drop, ussualy dropping hat or necklace every kill. secondly, almost every other player alive will want it too. warriors/rogues want it for dmg, priests/druid/shm/pal want it for +heal. would be nicer if they gave us something else in sm/uld to get, so all class's wouldn't be after same thing, but i didn't set the system up.

Edited, Sun Sep 25 21:18:34 2005

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I am a level 45 dwarf priest (shadow) that got this over a pally. He let me have it. I had hypnotic blade and he had something better than both. I LOVE it. It is fantastic. And I need the dps since I solo a lot.

I use it wih the orb from the undead in SM and Jaina's Firestarter as my wand..Love them all!

I ran SM quite a few times on my warrior and never seen it. I no longer have the warrior, but brought my priest to SM 2-3 times and on my last time it dropped. =D

oooh. and I got the necklace, too.. Trimune's Amulet? Is that from SM? And wherever you get the Chapeau (helm) from. I am on kick-ass priest, I think..For now. lol Slowly working my way out of those.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Drops off a boss in the Cathedral in Scarlet Monastary.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

its a great weapon, dropped on my i think my 4th SM run, great for my 41 shammy along with the shield that drops at SM too.

Edited, Tue Jun 21 21:52:13 2005

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Is this any good fer a druid?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I am a level 37 and got this on my first Cath run!
(Had a nice guild member walk me through) Also got Aegis of The Scarlet Commander on my first run :) Havent used them yet (level 39 req) but im really excited to bring them out of the bank.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

man i want this! Ive run Cathedral 10 times now, and it hasnt dropped once! :( But this is a shammy/pala weapon ;)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Done 4 cath runs, never dropped yet. Amulet 3 times and hat once

Commentaire de Allakhazam

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=4015/cotte-danneaux-dargent compared to Hand of Righteousness

+8 int
+9 to dmg spells and effects

-5 spr
-6 to healing spells and effects

With https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=5842/echantillon-de-minerai-brut it makes a nice combo.

Overall you would have +14 int, +14 spr +9 dmg and healing. That rivals, and in some people's opinion beats the Illusionary Rod. Though it takes a bit more work to get.

Plus it looks cool using a dagger.

Edited, Sun Jun 25 04:30:58 2006

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Here's the deal, you're all biased. Nobody here is objective. When I was on my warrior I thought ignorantly, "You know, that out damages my current sword.. I wouldn't mind it." And I got it, because nobody else wanted it. Although the speed on it was pretty bad as a tanking weapon, I didn't know that at the time. I thought it suited my class in a small way, thus I justified that nobody else deserved it, when I truly had no use for it. (Note: 70 warrior, it's obvious that this is a horrible tanking weapon - incompetence no longer remains)

Next, I rolled a priest. Priest gets around SM range and I began eying this thing. It would definitely be an excellent item to equip. Rogues, warriors, shammies.. they don't benefit as much as I do. I deserve it. It's a priest weapon. Rogues have absolutely no use for the stats on it, nor do warriors. Holy pallies could use it.. but they're almost always ret and would get more benefit from a 2h (seeing as I was usually the sole healer). Shammies - resto? Enh DW shammies don't deserve it, because again the stats aren't as beneficial.

Just recently, I rolled a rogue. Now, as I'm approaching SM range, I have my eye on this mace. Looking at the speed and max damage, and being a combat spec'd rogue, I would really enjoy using one of these as my mainhand, while using a Black Menace or Coldrage dagger as my OH. Yeah, the priests can use the stats.. but the damage. The damage is incredible. They won't benefit at all from that, whilst I would.

Truly, as I said, you're all biased. It has benefits for numerous classes, but the class you happen to play is the one it suits best. As far as its true suitor, we shall never know.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

if u look at stats the healing part of them it can also be really useful to the priests with an off hand.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

This is an awesome weapon for a rogue twink at 39.
Highest damage than any other weapon for an SS spec'd rogue.
I'm planning to get one, once I get to 37 or 38, I'm going to ask if it's alright to roll on it first, of course.
I used this on my other rogue on a different server to pvp with, it is by far the best weapon to use until you can afford a bloodrazor or the phantom blade.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Yesterday a 44 rogue needed and won that thing over me, a 36 holy priest. I was main healing the 5 man. You might say what you want but I still think he ninja'd it. With a 18% drop chance it may take many more runs before I see that mace again.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

again a shaman/paladin/priest weapon.. everyone else back off!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

that would be awesome for a pally....especially me, lol.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

w00000000t this item is a drop.

i have the offhand that looks exactly the same, and now i can have the sexiest looking lvl 60 priest alive!

yes!

(i was hoping this was a drop item, not a quest item, cos the offhand im talking about, is a quest item)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

jees jees. i got tiss littel meis! it doos veri nais dämits! aim priisti änd it alsou gives plas tu hiil! ai will kiip tis antill levvel 60!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I got it yesterday. Didnt look here what he dropped then i saw.. and i have an pally to =)
So now can i throw away my polearm and begin with mace and shield again :))

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I was the only one in the party that used a mace. My rogue loves this (the high end is awesome for SS). =)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

It has paladin stamped on it.. I see a little shaman in it too =)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

so happy just got this i dont really need it im druid still its nice I SHow OFF with that baby lol

Commentaire de Taraezor

My rogue won a roll for this. Don't ever let anyone tell you that this weapon is more suited to other classes and not at all meant for rogues. Sure a Paladin or a Shaman would drool over this weapon too. And rogues don't exactly have anything in the way of heals (and also looking at you AoE and cleave, sigh). But if the main stat, in this case "damage" for a rogue, is an upgrade then go ahead and "need". Make sure you equip, as i did, and in the next run show everyone just how extra awesome you are!

After all, in the scheme of things we are levelling and this weapon and everything else at this level are in no way meant to be a final "BiS" build. In a few levels our armour and weapons are discarded, although, hehehe, to be honest I think this weapon will last me for a bit!

(Yup, aware of Epée de vainqueur. Let's see what happens when I get to that stage!)

Commentaire de GhostGhost

Best weapon a rogue can get at this level. A rogue has equal if not more rights to this weapon than any other class.

It's a shame but it really is a rogue weapon.

Commentaire de GhostGhost

BiS mainhand for rogues and warriors.
Your dps doing higher dmg means fights last less time meaning you need to heal less.

Give this to your rogues first.

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