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Serie

1.	Huellas en el pasado
2.	Orik Corazón Veraz y La Orilla Olvidada
3.	El elixir de hierba tiniebla
4.	La historia olvidada
5.	La verdad nos hará libres
6.	Pensamientos de despedida
7.	Los secretos que esconden los hombres
8.	La Caverna Agonía de Escarcha

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Comentario de 300459

La cueva esta en 75,1 20,3 el altar esta en el centro de la cueva en un montículo donde hay tiradas armas.

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Comentario de 93783

Use of the scrying orb will probably let you see Arthas and Muradin finding frostmourne, of course this is just my guess.

Comentario de smokeh

The mouth of the cave is at 74.23. The cave is straightforward, head to the back and use the Orb at the sparkly altar.

You do end up with a nice dialogue between Arthas and Muradin finding Frostmourne.

Comentario de Moircaid313

*WARNING SPOILERS*
it has been confirmed that during the flashback between Arthas and Muradin, after Muradin is hit by the ice shard and Arthas walks away. the flashback shows that Muradin lives but has no idea who he is, possible quest to find him?

Comentario de 21795

Video of the event, for those that cannot see it themselves: http://www.wegame.com/watch/Frostmourne_Cavern/ . Graphics in the cave have been since changed.

Comentario de 38901

For those attempting the quest in the beta, as of build 8788 this quest cannot currently be completed, as the Frostmourne Altar is missing, which is required to use the scrying orb.

Comentario de 202977

This quest is currently bugged, no alter appears in the cave. Only a glowing stone.

Comentario de Rummage

Was able to do the quest today, Sept 1st.

Comentario de Brahla

This has to be one of the most epic quests ingame. Frostmourne is pretty much the reason of all the scourge around the world, and I am sure they've keeled you at least once. Too bad I don't have a Beta Key.

Comentario de 35877

Can we get some information on playing this instance? I would be very surprised if you could play this as a Death knight just for lore reasons. Any response would be great.

Comentario de Gekker

The death knights which players play have abandonded the lich king and now fight against them, kinda like the forsaken did when they left the scourge.

Comentario de 244300

Has anyone got any knowledge on the story behind Frostmourne and how Arthas came in possession of it? I read that he retrieved it from a solid block of ice, in Northrend, and that the Lich King could communicate to Arthas through it. I am wondering when the story was made up, cuz Steven Erikson tells a story almost identical to this one, in Reaper's Gale which was released a couple of years back.

Comentario de euebi

For lorefreaks, the conversation that takes place during the cut-scene:

The walls of Frostmourne Cavern shudder and shake.
Prince Arthas says: Behold, Muradin, our salvation, Frostmourne.
Muradin says: Hold, lad. There's an inscription on the dais. It's a warning. It says, "Whomsoever takes up this blade shall wield power eternal. Just as the blade rends flesh, so must power scar the spirit." Oh, I should've known. The blade is cursed! Let's get the hell out of here!
Prince Arthas says: I would gladly bear any curse to save my homeland.
Muradin says: Leave it be, Arthas. Forget this business and lead your men home.
Prince Arthas says: Damn the men! Nothing shall prevent me from having my revenge, old friend. Not even you.
Prince Arthas says: Now, I call out to the spirits of this place. I will give anything or pay any price, if only you will help me save my people.
<a shard of ice falls down and hits Muradin. It looks like he died>

<seconds later after Arthas ran out of the cave>
Muradin says: O' my head... Wh... Where am I?
Muradin says: Who... Who am I?

Looks like Muradin survived after all!

Comentario de 86033

Arthas runs away from the quest location at the end of the speech and my instinct was to follow him. If you do that you won't get quest credit. Stay where you are. Arthas just de-spawns before he gets out of the cave.

Comentario de Yglesias

I think they used the same exact sound files from Warcraft 3, which I kinda liked =]

Comentario de 16986

Cave is at 74.00, 23.00 specifically, for those of us using LightHeaded.

Comentario de 202718

I went to Frostmourne Cavern as Horde, just because I'm a lore junky. To my surprise, a friendly gnome (PvP server) was turning in this quest, and was nice enough to let me watch the cut-scene. Awesome!

Again, I highly suggest visiting the cavern for both factions, just for the importance it holds.

Comentario de Kazhirran

Ehm? Wasn't Muradin killed by one of the Ice-splinters when Arthas broke the ice, surrounding Frostmourne?

Comentario de 213301

no he wasnt. he survived and got a memory loss. no1 heard from him ever since... spooky!

Comentario de 164711

Its not the first time Blizzard have changed the lore...

Comentario de 242841

How Arthas claimed Frostmourne:

In the Human Campaign of Warcraft III, Prince Arthas Menethil and Jaina Proudmoore are sent by Lord Uther the Lightbringer to investigate the source of plagued grain being distributed amongst the villagers.
They find out that a cult called the Cult of the Damned is responsible for the grain, and Arthas vows to track down and kill their leader, Kel'thuzad. He and Jaina do so, but before he dies, Kel'thuzad tells them that his death will 'mean little' and that his cult was being commanded by the Dreadlord, Mal'Ganis.

Skipping a few parts here - you can learn a lot more if you play the Caverns of Time: The Culling of Stratholme.

Arthas travels to Northrend, to Mal'Ganis' base of operations. There he meets up with his old friend Muradin Bronzebeard, who tells him about a powerful Runeblade named Frostmourne that his dwarves heard about. Arthas vows to help him find Frostmourne, which they find after killing the Guardian infront of the cave.
Heres a bit of a quote:
Muradin: Hold lad. There's an inscription on the dais. It's a warning. It says, "Whomsoever takes up this blade shall wield power eternal. Just as the blade rends flesh, so musst power scar the spirit." Oh, I should've known. The blade is cursed! Let's get the hell out of here!

Arthas ignores him, and releases the blade from the ice in which it is encased. As Frostmourne bursts free, one of the shards of ice hits Muradin, knocking him unconscious***. Arthas returned to his base and, using Frostmourne, killed Mal'Ganis, just as the Lich King planned.

Hence, Arthas became the first of the Lich King's Death Knights.

***SPOILER***
***In Warcraft 3 it is led to believe that Muradin is dead, but in Wrath of the Lich King it is revealed that he is simply knocked out and now suffers from amnesia. Don't know if this is a retcon, but if someone could post Muradin's new name that would be great. He was found by other dwarves, and now goes by the name Yorg Stormheart.

Edits: Grammar, and added info on Muradin.

Comentario de AxelF

Beacuase wowaddict1234 you are viewing a event from the past and you are in the present (u havent gone back in time) that is why they cant see you.

I was like Muridan lives! and i think in WC3 the reason why you dont see that part is you are folowing the story of Arthas thus you follow arthas and not stick around to see a body of muradan.

Comentario de Shadowtion

If you're having trouble with completing this quest, simply do not follow Arthas when he runs outside. I end up asking general chat and stuff on how to complete it.. Then did the dialogue again, seems you only complete it until you await Muradin's return as a ghost.

Also does anyone find it a little lame that Might of Menethil (The hammer that drops from Kel'Thuzad in the old Naxxramas) of which most people thought that it was Arthas' old mace which he threw a way got renamed and has new stats? It drops in the new Naxxramas on 10 man I think. Now it seems Arthas was simply using a crappy old Grand Marshal mace.. That made me shed some tears ^^

Comentario de 247353

The Splinter SEEMED to kill Muradin, but apparantly It Merely Made him Have Amnesia, And become lost in the Frozen Wastes, never heard from Again.

Comentario de 230320

Well Blizzard arn't exactly changing the lore there just adding some onto the story.
Good quest for those who havn't played WC3

Comentario de 259126

does this goes further ? i mean i know the chain end there, but does later on in another zone is there a quest chain that continue the story where we left it ? do we ever get news from muradin after that quest ?

Comentario de haxasarus

SPOILER WARNING

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/npc=29593#starts
Muradin.

Comentario de 146819

And it most likely won't be the last.
Kinda their fault for giving the WoW Lore so much detail in the original Warcraft games; now they can barely do anything without having to worry about contradicting the Lore.

Comentario de Yuksu93

so horde dont ever get to see this awesome scene? awww lame! i was hoping it to be a CoT quest, not a full instance just a mini quest thing

Comentario de 194823

Go quest in Storm Peaks. >_>

Comentario de Saigio

You want to do it, roll an Alliance character. You guys get an event that Allies don't

Comentario de 264452

of course it goes further... the whole expansion is about this :P

Comentario de 226428

the questline in oshu'gun is somewhat different from the "real" lore on the area etc, but it is making the lore a little bit different so that it should fit the game better. allthough both of those storyline-quests are fun:)

Comentario de 95husum

Aw man, do i have to raise an alliance guy from lvl 1 to do this quest? well to every alliance players out there, have fun=)

Comentario de Tuhljin

Then I guess Tolkien "changed the lore" in The Two Towers since he made you believe that Gandalf died in The Fellowship of the Ring.

Comentario de Saldar

Yeah...

Hey! Remember when you were level 10? And Hogger killed you? But you came back later, didn't you? Hmm. I think the lore was contracted there. You should have stayed dead in my opinion.

Comentario de SirusStarseeker

Actually, Illidan actually being alive doesn't really contradict the lore, yes Arthas did cut into his chest, but only scarring him and weaking him enough to save his master. It was never said he died till Burning Crusade came out, it can be implied yes, but it was never proven.

Comentario de 112878

Very epic quest. Shows a good part of the Lore as do many other quests in Northrend.

Comentario de 146854

Do make sure you hang around Muradin and the sparkly thing after Arthas runs off, to get the 'quest complete'. The first time I did this I chased off after Arthas and wondered why the quest wasn't complete. Muradin has a little more to say ;)

Comentario de 153218

I wonder if the Frostmourne would be the new 2h sword soon in the new patch of wotlk?

Comentario de 284733

The story regarding Muradin picks up in a very nice quest line in the Storm Peaks.

Comentario de 99061

Illidan doesn't die, you just put him into a coma untill the following Tuesday as with any other raid boss.

Comentario de 234461

To be perfectly fair, nothing actually said 'Muradin died'. It could have very well been thier intention from the beginning to have him survive. I just watched the original WC3 Cinematic, and there was no solid evidence showing Muradin death. Just other characters reactions and thier belief that he died. The writers actually do a good job of keeping the lore. Occasionally, they have to retcon stuff, but, that's life.

Comentario de 291286

You have to stay there the whole time while they talk...I didn't and had to do it again :(

Comentario de 42243

Okay my guess: Muradin survived yes. When you are going to fight The Lich King then he suddenly will apear in the fight and do anything so you can beat him (kinda like Maeiv).

In the fight:
Mura: "HAARH!" *wound LK*
LK: "YOU! I THOUGHT YOU WERE DEAD!"
or something like that.

(the funny version of his comeback lol)
Mura: " ARTHAS!"
LK: "Hello Mura how are ya?"
Mura: "Im fine ty you? How's ya dad going? Where is he? Is he fine?"
LK: "Ya know he has a kinda big whole in the breast"
Mura: "Has he now eaten too much? Hehe what an old fart!"
LK: "Yeah... Well right now i think he got the mouth full of dirt"
Mura: "Aye! But how are ya dressed? You look like a tin can! And with those cold and blue eyes!"
LK: "Uuuuh.... New style... i've changed to a Goth-Knight. The blue eyes are kinda contact lences"
Mura: "aaah ok. Say ello to ya dad for me would ya?"
LK: "Yeah i have visit now. We can talk about this later. Cya"
Mura: "Cya. That boy has a heart pure as gold"

:-)

Comentario de INvShika

Saying "Oh, Horde get Thrall in Nagrand and a dying Naaru!".... IT'S @#$%ING FROSTMOURNE! IT'S A QUESTLINE ABOUT THE MAIN BAD GUY! Come on ><

Comentario de RedwoodElf

By the way, Frostmourne and DK rune weapons are very similar to Mournblade and Stormbringer from the Elric saga, though they are much less powerful in most respects.

Comentario de 258077

There is also a quest chain in The Storm Peaks that is amazing for those people that love stuff like this!

Very long

not giving any hints

Comentario de 166885

oh my this q im gonna look forward too =D

Comentario de 152018

No one wants to read this, Neifer! Don't do that!

Comentario de 156697

Well, crap. Guess I'll have to go level my Alli Hunter so I can get the Alli side of Northrend Lore... =/

To the Hordies who don't have an Alli toon- make an Alli DK when 3.08 hits. Blizz is already letting players make DKs on any server as long as they have a 55+ *somewhere*.

Comentario de 308133

wish i was ally right now wana do this quest :(
dno how many times i finished w3 and w3 tft campeign over 5 yrs b4 i got wow -_- the northrend missions were awesome.

Comentario de 301788

i know this sucks....
i cant believe ally got this Q and horde didnt..
however horde get the quest chain where they get to kill things on the wyrmrest dragon huge thing then kill the big scourge of the north skeleton dragon thing..
that was fun xD

Comentario de 311741

Arathas really wants his mummy :D

Comentario de saiex

I would like to take a stand here and now and just announce to all who have downrated my comments. I don't care if you feel obligated to keep this place better than the *!@#hole (or not) that is thottbot, you are a complete and utter chode for suppressing my voice in the Wowhead community. The mere thought of you considering your offerings to this found of knowledge better than mine sickens me.

You people are rotten to the monster-trucking core.

Comentario de 264155

Something that they've left out is a frost revenant called The Guardien, just like Medivh's title. I don't know if that has anything to do with him, but still. He's the one warning them and trying to stop them from the Frostmourne.

Comentario de 2345

No lore revision there, Gandalf the Grey did die during the timeline of The Fellowship of the Ring. Yes, he survived the fall, but as we learn in The Two Towers he died in the ensuing Battle of the Peak while casting down the Balrog. His spirit left his body on the peak of Zirakzigil, and much later he was “sent back” as Gandalf the White.

Comentario de 257390

About the "LOL HE DIED IN WC3!=!one1" crap, lets be honest... Naxxramas got raped in 60. But this expansion is all about "raising the dead", even if it involves parts of lore that has nothing to do with a logical "raise-of-dead" from the Lich King or anything like it. Change happends!

Comentario de 253196

Because the sword isn't there.

Comentario de 253196

I love you.

Comentario de rableather

As to Arthus' racial ID. Lord Bolivar calls him a "Motherless Elf" in the Dragonblight vid. However as a Scot I would like it officially recorded Muradin sounds NOTHING like a Scot.

Comentario de 248692

Handy for those without coords, a map https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/maps=65:738248

Comentario de wasniahC

Or any other coords addon!

Comentario de Treld

We will take the fight to arthas. AND WE WILL TEAR DOWN THE WALLS OF ICECROWN!

THE ARGENT CRUSADE CUMS FOR YOU ARTHAS!

Comentario de 305281

Arthas' soul was stolen by Frostmourne which made him a human without a soul. After he "returns" the blade, The Lich King, Ner'zul, uses his body as a host. Arthas doesn't even really exist anymore, he is Ner'zul in the body of Arthas. Therefore I believe that Arthas cannot be released, when Ner'zul dies (if he ever does) so will Arthas. The Lich King is simply Ner'zul, not a paladin/shaman/deathknight/human/undead/orc :P

Comentario de 99328

What you don't see is Arthas then having to run around Howling Fjord for days, killing turkeys to level his Swords skill. He's been using that mace for ages!

Comentario de RipperGand

I just noticed in the Frostmourne Cavern, if you notice the ground in the area where Frostmourne was, you can see Arthas' old weapon (At least it is the weapon he uses in the CoS, which is https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=18867) and Muradin's weapons, the axe and the hammer.

EDIT: Nevermind what was written after this, I had not seen the cutscene from the beggining.

Comentario de 368312

To sum up the subject -
He's neither Undead or Human.
He really can't be classified because he started out as a human, never technically died but for all intents and purposes became undead, and then merged with the spirit of an undead Orc shaman.

I actually got this straight from WoW-Wiki upon searching the phrase "Frostmourne"

Frostmourne has the ability to drain life from its victims — and to drain the soul of anyone whom it connects to. The Lich King is capable of seeing through the eyes and hearing through the ears of anyone who wields Frostmourne; this ability cannot be stopped by any mortal means. The Lich King can communicate with the wielder at will telepathically, on any plane and at any distance. The Lich King uses this ability to try and corrupt the wielder over time. This has several effects. An individual who wields Frostmourne will not part with it willingly. Over time the person will go from good to neutral and finally to evil. A non-undead evil wielder will then become undead.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Frostmourne
It's under the "Curse" section towards the bottom, I know this could still be debated, but the wiki is derived directly from lore, If you want to contest this, feel free, but please research more on this before you do...

Comentario de Xrystal

Here's a map that will sorta get you there....

Comentario de Thoric

Frostmourne, apply directly to the soul.
Frostmourne, apply directly to the soul.
Frostmourne, apply directly to the soul.

Comentario de 411841

so instead of talking about WC3 can somebody please link where it is on the map :/

Comentario de 414368

do you have to do the quest to see the reinaction of arthas and muradin finding the frostmourne?

Comentario de 150793

Since most of you are commenting on the lore itself, I'll comment on the items:

they suck.

No, seriously. The mail blue belt was actually a downgrade for my enhancement shaman, who was wearing a quest green. I can't speak for every one of them, but, uh, yeah. They're pretty bad blues. I just picked the plate to sell ~_~

Comentario de 370359

arthas dont kill muradin ... muradin not die

Comentario de craaazytaco

I can't believe no one else has seen this yet:

I must nofity King Bronzebeard at once!

Nofity? You mean notify? Time to open a ticket.

Comentario de KKK4

Its unfair, horde needs to kill a dragon while alliance go an learn about the history of the lich king!

Comentario de comma33

The Forsaken has got alot to do with Arthas, he's the one who created them(In some way), In the WC3 campaign when the Scourge(Arthas) invaded silvermoon to resurrect Kel'thuzard at the Sun well, he met the High elven Ranger General, Sylvanas Windrunner, he eventually killed her and resurrected her as a banshee. Years later when Illidan had merged with the skull of Gul'dan and had called the Naga from the sea, Illidan sat out to Destroy the Frozen Throne(Because of Kil'jaeden's promise of power), the Lich King started to weaken, causing him to loose control of his undead minions, including Sylvanas Windrunner, who broke free from the scourge along with a number of orther undeads who had regained their will, they named themselfs the Forsaken. So my point is, if Arthas had not resurrected Sylvanas she wouldent have created the Forsaken, and that way Arthas created them.

The game takes place over a period or several days not years.

Comentario de Skubalon

ok for those who have TOM TOM or such the coords:

74,23

:)

Comentario de asloversgo

It saddens me that they didn't do it exactly as in Warcraft III. I was expecting to see a chunk of ice fly into Muradin as Arthas shatters the ice around Frostmourne. Instead, you see Muradin just "die" when Arthas grabs the weapon, like if he was doing a "DOH!" when Arthas ignores what he says.
They could've put a little more effort in doing this right, since it's pretty lore-relevant.

edit: typos

Comentario de Silmarien

For those who want to see the cutscene in-game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONCEfqVYnCU

Comentario de 452994

Just watch for the pair of lvl 72 elementals at the cave mouth.

Comentario de 452994

They can be pulled singly.

Comentario de Wariath

For those who aren't smart he is know Brann Bronze Beard (I know MOST of you obviously know that). If you dont know where to meet him go into Ulduar I think...

Comentario de 492157

its mine lol its my first

Comentario de plim1230

HAH i know it all! well its true that arthas is not an undead, he is a human with no soul and a being without soul will eventually look corrupted. and to answer you questions about the arthas nerzhul thing, some of you mean that the lich king is part arthas part nezshul but no! they are a hole new guy its like a little party with Nerzhul, Arthas and a nameless guy and they all ended up killing each other and the nameless won the fight and then he eat the other 2 and that would be the Lich king! and in the Wotlk: Halls of Reflection the spirit of Uther the Lightbringer says something about the possibility that the only thing that is stopping the scorge from destroying the world of azeroth is the little good part of Arthas that is left in the lich king. and a little note of you are confused "Frostmourne" stole arthas soul when he picked up the blade his soul were still pure "in a way" when he recieved the blade and its that little part who dont want to destroy all life

Even weakened as he was, Arthas ultimately outmaneuvered Illidan and reached the Frozen Throne first. Using his runeblade, Frostmourne, Arthas shattered the Lich King's icy prison and thereby released Ner'zhul's enchanted helm and breastplate.

Arthas placed the unimaginably powerful helm on his head and became the new Lich King. Ner'zhul and Arthas' spirits fused into a single mighty being, just as Ner'zhul had always planned. Illidan and his troops were forced to flee back to Outland in disgrace, while Arthas became one of the most powerful entities the world had ever known.

Currently Arthas, the new and immortal Lich King, resides in Northrend; he is rumored to be rebuilding the citadel of Icecrown. His trusted lieutenant, Kel'Thuzad, commands the Scourge in the Plaguelands. Sylvanas and her rebel Forsaken hold only the Tirisfal Glades, a small portion of the war-torn kingdom.

Comentario de 343170

actually The Lich King is more Arthas Then Ner'zhul for Arthas overpowered Ner'zhul and is now the true Lich King.

Comentario de 137190

They redubbed Arthas' voice, unfortunately. Here's what the original sounds like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn4qVHXsAXc

Comentario de 512576

I can't help but notice how much saronite is in this cave. There's even a green mist.

I Just can't shake the feeling that Yogg'saron had quite a bit of influence in this cave, and that makes me wonder whether or not he had a hand in Arthas' decision to take up Frostmourne. Also, if my memory serves, in Warcraft III Frostmourne was guarded by 'Death Revenants'. Revenants are elementals, which were formerly controlled by the Old Gods, and Yogg Saron is the Old God of Death.

Comentario de 561328

I have a lvl 80 Orc DK if i were to do a faction change(this toon has NEVER had a faction change) could i do this quest chain?I hope so never got to expeirence it.
"I would gladly bear any curse to save my home land."
-Arthas

Comentario de NiGh7

That sword is devoured by the rage of the thousand souls ... It's the true weapon fulled with undead power.. i think it's good looking but don't know it looks little bit a small .. However that sword is one of the most epic Weapons which dates from Warcraft III : frozen throne... The second weapon are Ilidan's Blades .. But that is the best

Comentario de 528799

make sure you don't have The Sacred and the Corrupt in your quest log when you try to do this quest or you will be sent into the instanced version of the cavern with the lich king fight.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Use the orb at 75,20

The entrance to the cave is at 74,23

Comentario de Allakhazam

Spectacular, to get these rewards on Horde side you need to kill 4 elites, the 3 weak ones have 102k health.
All 5 person quests, level 75 to obtain. You have to use an orb. I guess that says it all.

Comentario de Allakhazam

Hows i lewtz Arthass' hammah?

Comentario de Mairwyn67

Entrance to the cave is at 73,25

If you don't have flying, you will have to walk in and fight a few elemental meanies to get inside to the alter.

Use Zelig's Scrying Orb and sit back and watch Arthas make his choice :)

Comentario de Lewsirr

Cave Entrance 74, 25. Go inside cave, you'll see a shiny shrine. Use orb there.

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La Caverna Agonía de Escarcha

Zelig el Visionario en la Fortaleza de Hibergarde del Cementerio de Dragones quiere que uses el orbe de visión de Zelig en el fondo de la Caverna Agonía de Escarcha. ¡Desata los secretos del pasado!

	Secretos del pasado revelados (1)

Objeto provisto:

	Orbe de visión de Zelig (1)

Descripción

Han nombrado la cueva como la Caverna Agonía de Escarcha. Se desconoce por qué El Embate Escarlata está interesado en este tipo de cosas pero, por lo que parece, los alrededores de la cueva están muy vigilados. No obstante, ¡tenemos que continuar!

Coge este orbe de visión y ve hacia el norte, saliendo de la ciudad, y luego hacia el noroeste por la Punta Escarlata. Ábrete camino por la cueva y lucha hasta el fondo. Una vez allí, usa el orbe. Vuelve aquí con lo que hayas descubierto.

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	Envoltura de destrucción vigorosa		Cinturón de Purificación vengativa
	Eslabones de Persecución recta		Faja de aniquilación forzada

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Cuando completes esta misión ganarás:

350 reputación con Expedición de Denuedo

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