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Comentario de 311843

esta montura donde se consigue?

Comentario de 317915

Es un drop del Santuario Obsidiana 10 (hero). Que yo sepa, han de estar los tres dragones en pie para que el dragón tenga un drop alto (aunque sólo se dropea uno :P suerte con las tiradas).

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Comentario de Icecoldcoke

This is a drop from Obsidian Sanctuary on "Hard" mode, which is clearing the trash, and not the 3 other bosses inside of the raid.

There is also additional bonus loot from doing it this way.

Comentario de 169612

you get an Additional 1 loot for each Drake (other bosses) alive
so 3 drake = 3 bonus loot + mount

Edit: In 25 man he drops a Twilight Drake instead of the Black Drake

Comentario de 186642

So, if the black drake on the 10 man always drops with the 3 drakes up, does everyone get one or is it rolled for like most mounts?

Comentario de nevrakian

basically the new armani war bear. not every guild will be able to get these early on but as time goes on more guilds will be able to handle the extra "bosses" and get these.

Comentario de 150104

The reason that some raid groups clear the dragons before taking on Sartharion is because there are debuffs and disadvantages applies to the raid (or so i have heard) for each additional drake sitll alive and therefore it make the fight more difficult.

Comentario de 205519

its actually much more fun then just "debuffs / disadvantages" to having the other 3 drakes up, Satharion calls each drake in after a set amount of time, so you end up fighting a big dragon, and 3 drakes :)

Comentario de 251082

I'm confused. Is this guaranteed to drop if you have all three drakes up, or is it still a 1% chance even if you have them all alive. Just need some clarification.

Comentario de MasterLoco

Yes. This is a 100% dropchance if you kill Sartharion with all 3 drakes alive.

Comentario de 266642

So if you kill Sartharion with all 3 drakes up, do you have to kill the drakes after? Or do they go friendly and start sucking up to you?

Comentario de 134033

The 10 man three drakes is reputed to be a lot more difficult than the 25 man.

Comentario de jaxsonbateman

If you kill Sarth with all 3 drakes up you should be commended - given that one of the drakes causes any hits to do massive shadow damage back to the attack, and that another actually makes 99.9% of all damage ineffective (some damage still works, such as a warrior's damage shield).

The proper strat is to kill each drake 1 by 1 as they add to the fight (with 3 drakes up, aside from the very start of the first add and the end of the third add, you'll usually have 2 alive at one time), and deal with the abilities they bring appropriately. It's quite difficult as each drake summons void zones, as well as their own unique ability (spawning whelps, causing the shadow recoil damage aura, making the main four mobs immune), and these must be dealt with in addition to Sartharion's abilities (the main raid damage causer being lava wall - which with the immunity drake up will near-one shot anyone).

Comentario de 149382

Got mine last Tuesday (2/3/2009). Arguably the most difficult fight in the game... but definitely worth it. These drakes look exactly like the 3 black drake bosses (Firemaw, Ebonroc, Flamegor) in BlackWing Lair

The strategy for the fight in general will run the same: Blow cooldowns and bloodlust once the drake tank has established threat on Tenebron, burn her down ASAP. As previously mentioned, you do NOT want a second spawn of whelps.

Once Tenebron is down, dps should swap to assist with killing any whelps/blazes that remain. DPS then resumes on Shadron, who has most likely been moved at this point by the drake tank to the place where Vesperon lands.

After Vesperon lands, you approach the "danger zone" for your Sartharion tank, since as soon as Vesperon summons his disciple, your Sarth tank starts taking 75% extra damage from Sartharion's breath weapon. At this point, your Sarth tank needs to start rotating cooldowns in order to stay alive during breath weapons, which is why most raids use Death Knights to handle this phase (Anti-Magic shell, Icebound Fortitude, & Bone Shield are all % damage reductions from all sources). Disc priests with Pain Suppression is also a great way to get through a cooldown requirement.

Since cooldowns won't last forever, it's important Shadron dies soon after Vesperon spawns his disciple, so that your DPS can enter the portal and kill the disciple (one of your DPS will need to offtank... warrior with a shield, bear druid, etc). Once this has happened, the situation becomes MUCH more tolerable, though your Sartharion tank will still be taking increased damage, and needs to be watched. Burn down Vesperon, enter the final portal, drop the second disiciple, and from there it is just a standard Sartharion. Drake tank can either take over for the sartharion tank, assist your add tank with flames, or just DPS.

We use the "easiest" composition to run with: 3/3/4. (3 Tanks, 3 Healers, 4 DPS). With this comp you have 1 sartharion tank & dedicated healer, 1 drake tank & dedicated healer, 1 add/whelp tank, and a generic "raid" healer that can also cross heal the drake tank.

The other comp I've seen the most success with is a 3/2/5 group, which focuses on bringing an extra DPS to burn down drakes faster, theoretically reducing the healing overhead needed. The chaotic situation, however, puts a LOT of stress on these 2 healers.

There is rumor of using a 2/3/5 comp, with the drake tank also trying to control adds, but this also leaves a lot of room for error, and as a drake tank myself... there is a LOT to keep track of to try and AOE tank adds as well.

Regardless, everyone should be in full sets of 25 man/Ilvl 213 gear before attempting 3 drakes. It is a fight that will greatly test your raid's raw stats in terms of heals, DPS, and Tanking abilities, as well as it's situational awareness.

Comentario de 278454

Did it with:
1 warlock: 77k voidwalker w/ kings/fort/mark (Sarth tank during drakes)
2 tanks: warrior (on drakes) + paladin (on adds)
2 healers: disc priest (on Sarth tank) / druid (on raid)
5 dps: Fury warrior / mut rogue (anesthetic poison for adds) / hunter (MD on tanks) / ret paly (offheals) / ele shaman (offheals)

Everyone needs to: 1) avoid firewalls 2) avoid blue circles

Voidwalker tanks Sarth on front left of island, positioned where left firewalls won't hit.
Warrior tanks 1st drake down in back of island. DPS it quick. Warlock can help DPS on 1st drake to burn it faster, but his priority should be to health funnel voidwalker during bad firewalls (the ones from the right) to reduce damage, then reposition the voidwalker after firewall debuff disappears. Paladin leaves consecrates near portal to pick up whelp adds faster.

After 1st drake down, DPS whelp adds to get them out of the way, then DPS 2nd and 3rd drake. Should AoE down fire adds right after lava walls to keep them under control. Shaman can also heroism here to help take down then 2nd drake faster to reduce the chance of the drake tank getting double-breathed and ease healing.

After 3 drakes down, everyone in raid except 1) warlock/voidwalker, 2) the healers and 3) the add tank goes into portal to burn alcolytes down. Retpaly and ele shaman offheal in the portal while drake tank picks up alcolytes one at a time. After alcolytes are down warrior tank picks up Sarth in same position. Keep fire adds to a minimum while dpsing Sarth. It's just like 0 drake Sarth now.

At 5% Sarth enrages. Focus and burn Sarth. Offtank the adds and don't worry about them until Sarth is dead.

Comentario de 95747

Close but not quite.

They're removing the 310% drakes from the Glory of the Raider 10/25-man achievements. The Sarth encounter drakes will still drop.

The idea behind this is to keep the 310% drakes extremely rare, and they will be adding new 310% drakes-via-achievements when Ulduar is released.

Comentario de 307019

We did this last night using the VW tank method, I ended up getting the black drake too.

Kill order was the same for 25-man, Tenebron -> Shadron -> Vesperon. Taking portals to kill Vesperon add to remove torment and then killing Shadron's add at the end.

Group Makeup:

1 warrior tank for all drakes and the whelp spawn
1 fury DPS warrior
1 ret pally (me) 2H tanking fire adds and getting DPS in on drakes when possible
1 DK dps tanking adds in the portal and DPS
1 elemental shammy for heroism/DPS/healing in the portal
1 hunter for MD, tranqing enraged adds and DPS
1 warlock with the VW, ~76k buffed pre-nerf. snuck in some DPS on first drake but mostly doing health funnel the whole fight.
3 healers, 2 druids for raid healing/drake tank and 1 priest for VW tank

Comentario de 340129

this is my second favrite drake it not as hard to get as the twilight drake but is not as cool as the twilight drake this drake is like the first - third dake you get

Comentario de 278195

There is another strategy to do this fight, which I'm surprised nobody has posted on. It's termed the zerg strategy.

1 tank, 1 healer, 8 dps.

You need to synergize the dps one way, so like rogue/hunter/enhancement shammie/fury warriors/dks etc. 3-4 fury warriors helps for whirlwinding the adds.

Can also do it with casters, ele shaman/lock/mages/boomkin/spriest etc.

The healer should preferably be a shaman for another bloodlust, and the tank a protadin for great threat and aoe threat build to quickly pick up tenebron and any adds.

Sartharion is tanked back where tenebron lands, perpindicular to where he naturally lies, facing north (where shadron is kind of).

There is a ledge on the southwest of the island, where you assault from (inbetween tenebron and versperon), where the dps can stand on when the flame wall passes and not be hit (only the flamewall with a gap in the middle).

Sartharion should die in under 80 seconds, before the 2nd drake ever lands, and before 3 flame walls. This fight is to a great extent a luck fight. Luck on void fissures, luck on which way the firewalls come, and luck on sartharion and tenebron's breaths.

The raid needs at least a good 32k dps. It is advisable to have 2 shamans for quicker attempts, and players outside to fully raid buff, and also flasks/food etc. Everything must be blown, fire elementals, army of the dead (right on the pull) all cooldowns, in an attempt to burn him down as fast as possible.

This fight is like running the slot machines. It can take upwards of 7 hours to down him, or as quickly as 1-2 tries, all depending on luck on void fissures and lava walls. However, it is easier than doing it the long way, and at the end is the title and drake + gear.

It is a legit strat, and so I have posted it.

Comentario de 252338

y did they take out the black proto drake but leave the black drake in...i think thats crap....anyone got any ideas y?

Comentario de Dgoblinking

I got me one of these lovely beasts recently.. just one Question.. Why isnt the "Black Drake" ..Black?

it's more a Rust Red/Brown color... wtf? ( its not just my color setting btw ..check the posted screenshots as well. Everyone has a Red/Brown "Black Drake" :P )

However, in certain zones where a shader changes the over all color of things.. like Icecrown for example ..it does appear to be a black drake with a tan wings and underbelly. Everywhere else however its Reddish Brown. Lrn2#000000 Blizz GG!

Comentario de agentex50

@ Dgo: It is called a Black Drake because it is the spawn of Deathwing aka the father of the Black Dragonflight. Just like Sartharion, Onyxia and Nefarian it is a member of the Black Dragonflight. I would be honored to mount on the sons and daughters of Deathwing himself!

BTW....exxess ! and ? and numbers that make no sense aren't going to make people trust your raids stability. I have pugged 10man Naxx with random people and not once put any ! or ? marks on my posts.

Sorry if i sound angry but thats just a piece of advice :)

Comentario de Dgoblinking

@Agentex50:
First off, were you high when you wrote this? (the "?" character denotes a question)

It's linage is not at all in question within my post.
They call it a Black Drake ..with 99% of the other drake mounts labeling is in referance to thier color. The blue, the bronze, the green, the violet, and red drakes to name but a few.
The developers go on to lable some emerald and azure for flare, but ya thats just another way to say green and blue. My whole post was just questioning why did they change the trend when they colored the model of the black drake? ( again ..the "?" character denotes a question)

You state in your post that I used an exxess (I assume you mean "excess") number of ! and ?.
To this I say, read it again please. I used a question mark (?) at the end of my questions and an "exclamation mark" (!) at the end of my last sentance for emphasis.
A mark or sign by which outcry or emphatic utterance is marked; thus ; -- called also exclamation point.

Oh btw.. the "numbers that make no sense" ..I believe you refer to my "Lrn2#000000 Blizz GG!" comment.

#000000 is the HTML color code for ..ya ready for this? ("?" for yet another question)
< drum roll > BLACK! (the "!" was used for emphasis)
( go to http://www.computerhope.com/htmcolor.htm to learn more =D )

You go on to mention my raid "stability" O.o ..why? (the ? was added in cause ya ..it's another question.)

sta⋅bil⋅i⋅ty Spelled Pronunciation
–noun, plural -ties. 1. the state or quality of being stable.
2. firmness in position.
3. continuance without change; permanence.
4. Chemistry. resistance or the degree of resistance to chemical change or disintegration.
5. resistance to change, esp. sudden change or deterioration: The stability of the economy encourages investment.
6. steadfastness; constancy, as of character or purpose: The job calls for a great deal of emotional stability.
7. Aeronautics. the ability of an aircraft to return to its original flying position when abruptly displaced.
8. Roman Catholic Church. a vow taken by a Benedictine monk, binding him to residence for life in the same monastery in which he made the vow.

I can only assume you are questioning my credibility as a raider or suggesting that I was attempting to position myself as an authority of some kind, in which case that would just be nonsense.

At no time in my post did I bost about my raiding prowess. In the post I merely stated that I had one ( which does infer that I was involed in a kill of Sarth while the 3 drakes were up and won the roll for the drop of the black drake mount). Other than that, nothing concerning my credentials as a raider was ever mentioned.

To conclude, I restate in a simple fashion my original question of "Why did you make the black drake a rusty red / brown color Blizz?"

Then end with .."stop smokin da ganja @Agentex50, it be makin ya crazy mon!"

Yeah for emphasis!

Sorry if I sound sarcastic but, ... >.>
=D

Comentario de 350437

is it harder to kill the boss with the drakes up?

Comentario de 231112

I got this mount last night and the have had the twilight drake for a quite a while now.

if you do it the "right way" the fight can indeed be very hectic which is how we did it our first few kills.
Last night we did the zerg strat which requires you kill him basically before the seconds drake lands and kills your tank.

Raid makeup was 8 dps 1 healer 1 tank.

dps ranged from 3950 - 6800

the hardest part is the last 5-10% if you can have a rogue evasion tank or even a boomkin get some lucky dodges after the tank dies its very doable. (our shadow priest ended up dispersion tanking the adds which was not intentional but worked wonders to pull that extra 5-10 seconds of dps off to complete the kill)

personally I like this mount better than the twilight drake as it looks like your riding around on sarth haha.

Comentario de 374391

This is a drop from Obsidian Sanctuary on "Hard" mode, which is clearing the trash, and not the 3 other bosses inside of the raid.

By "hard" mode you mean Heroic Difficulty, right?

Comentario de 363451

Got one of these today, zerg method. DK tank Holy priest healer, 1 hunter, 3 rogues, 1 frost dk, ret pally, ench shaman, and feral druid kiting tenebron.

Got hit by the second lava wall, hit one of those whirlwind thingys in the lava, flow through the room and sarth died follow me. Was epic. :)

Submitted a screenshot of it, although there are alot of them already, one more can't hurt. :)

Comentario de 284541

How can you even consider outrolling your friends if you dont have the proper flight skill?

Comentario de Pachirisuneytor

This mount flies at 280% speed and not 310%, just in case you were wondering.

Comentario de 446908

Won this on a 99 roll, sold it for 2000g to a friend moments later.

Comentario de Jhumanji

y did they take out the black proto drake but leave the black drake in...i think thats crap....anyone got any ideas y?
The answer is simple. Proto-drakes from the raid achievements are 310% speed, the drakes that drop from Sartharion are 280%. Woop-ti-woop, see what they did there?

I think the fact that 1 is a drake and the other a proto-drake makes more of a difference than 30% speed difference between the two.

Comentario de 301209

Thanks :)
I was acctually wondering.

Comentario de CorneliaGenjuros

I joined a raid for this and everything was did correctly until the so desired mount dropped. We discussed what would be the method to win the drop, and the decision was to normally roll (by the simple "/roll" command) and the higher one gets the mount. So we did. Everyone who needed it rolled for the item, just by curiosity the Master Looter (nickname: Sardek) took an 11, i took 100, and since there were no ties the mount SHOULD be mine. Now, here we go:
People start to congratulate me and disbanding, the Master Looter took the item and went offline. My partners started asking me if he gave me the item as he should, i answeared no, everyone got ^&*!ed off with this issue. Then i started whispering asking what the hell was he doing and the answear was "Sorry, i got paid for that".

Reported to a GM and all i got was an e-mail with the subject "Disagreement about the loot" saying "We're sorry, we can't help you with this issue, there are in-game ways to prevent this to happen", but we all know there are NONE, if you use the Group Loot option to automatically give the item to the winner, there's no way you assure someone won't need an item they can't even wear just because people are stupid and greedy, and take it from someone who realy needs it. I've seen that happen many times, and i'm sure i'm not the only one.

I have printscreens to proove everything and i know the nicknames of everyone in that raid. I've been tracking wow armory constantly to see if any of my raid partners gets an achiv for "learning" the mount, so i can catch the guy who supposely bought the item from the master looter. I'm basically doing Blizzard's job with my poor user-methods, since i don't even know if there's an achiv (a 'Feats of Strength' one, maybe?) for getting that mount!

So basically i joined the group of people who get stolen in pug raids with Blizzard cooperation.

Sardek was the nickname of that great leader. I've read about people selling OS runs for this mount and selling the mount itself to someone in the raid every week, in wow official forums (yeah, amazing...), maybe it was that case, so if you're reading this do a favor yourself and don't join raids with this guy!

-------------------------------
Cornélia @ Genjuros

Comentario de 489443

We just looted this in our raid, leader forgot Master Looter, and we all rolled need.
As lucky as i am, i rolled 100, and im right now showing off in dalaran x')
This mount is simply awesome.

Comentario de iLikeTurtelz

When you fly over Icecrown, this drake looks like Black Drake with YeLLOW wings. Try it.

Comentario de colar

Just got this one today (Mar 2010) and it was pretty easy to do OS 3D for a chance at the mount. Most of the players were ToC and ICC geared and in all, Sarth was downed before the second drake arrived.

Comentario de 520629

just got this today, too bad i dont have 5k gold to ride it T_T

Comentario de 557819

I tried giving this drake to a raid member when i was ML but it said 'Player already has too many of that item already.' Does this mean that the player already has the drake and therefore unable to receive anymore. If so i feel very cheated because he claimed he doesn't have it and i was the 2nd highest roller. People in the raid were accusing me of 'ninja-ing' the drake when i wanted to claim it. Rerolled and lost roll to someone else =(.Hope you guys have answers for this thank you

Comentario de 348759

won this one today, looks awesome i just love it

Comentario de 421087

When the "Reins of the Black Drake" is looted by someone in your raid, will they be able to trade it within the raid, like with other items?

My question is; If someone else wins this mount and loots it, will you be able to buy it from them before they use it?

Comentario de 498827

I got my drake tonight :D

group makeup:

Ret Pally (me)
Pally Tank
2 warriors
3 shamans
1 druid tree
1 priest
1 death knight

We positioned Sarth in between the opening for the fire wall, facing to the right. BL 10 seconds in, then we just went for it. highest DPS was 6.9K, then I was at 6K myself. Once sarth was down, we had about 4 of us still up, but the adds/drakes took care of us, but not matter :D

Rezzed, then did the rolls. I won the drake, and am very happy with it. :D

~Dusk

Comentario de WheezySoul

Just got my drake tonight. Woot! But anyways zerged it with 5k+ dps and it was a piece of cake. Got all three achv's for having drakes up and got really lucky and won mount roll. I'm a 5k gs warr tank btw, I died at 5% sarth health and dps did the rest from there. First run. Good luck everyone.

Comentario de Dragoonman

Yep, got myself a drake today. Was easy as pie, wiped once though.

Comentario de Independent16

obviously a fairly hot item to ninja, got it taken from me today by the master looter "misclicking", then the jerk wouldnt give it to me, and tried to sell it.

Lets hope blizz comes through for once

Comentario de 588866

Got mine today, has got alot easier since last patch, its more a method of rinse and repeat until you get lucky.

Comentario de Zorrah

Won this tonight on my lock...5600 GS. Rest of the raid was 5500-6100 or so.

Zerg and we downed him without issues. This is becoming a weekly raid for most.

And of all things I won with a roll of 76.... :)

Our group did the pull/invis thing where he respawns after we all get into position. It was easy mode after that.

Easier and easier to get nowadays with ICC gear and such. Keep an eye out for pugs running this. I had the Nightfall achievement on my lock back last October...so thats what got me in the raid.

Comentario de Selchie58

As of Phase 2 in Wotlk Classic, this item no longer droppes from Sarth 10p. Instead, the 25p version (Reins of the Twilight Drake) drops here. The Black Drake is likely moved to a drop in a Titan Rune dungeon, but this is not confirmed.

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