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Kommentar von adashiel

Sadly, the Black Knight will likely be your least challenging opponent in the Argent Tournament. However, it does have a gotcha that may cause you problems. The fight is in two phases. Equip your lance, jump on the Angebundenes Argentumschlachtross, and then talk to Knappe Cavin. He'll call the knight out for you and you'll fight him on his gryphon using standard jousting tactics. When he's low on health, he will dismount and call you out for hand to hand contact. Do nothing to dismount yourself. When you see him dismount, that is not your cue to unequip your lance or get off your own mount. The game will do that for you and if you try to do it yourself the black knight will probably evade and despawn. While he's buffing himself you will have time to equip your normal weapons. Then just fight him as you would any other non-elite mob.

Edit: Apparently it's possible to kill him while he's still on his gryphon. I personally witnessed this happen once and have heard a couple other reports of the same behavior. Normally he will jump off and face you in hand-to-hand combat, however.

Kommentar von Zephy

I started on the road to be a valiant and no new Black Knight quest, hope this one opens up in the next
4 days.

Kommentar von 198069

Black Knight quest line

1. The Black Knight of Westfall or The Black Knight of Silverpine

2. The Seer's Crystal

3. The Stories Dead Men Tell

4.There's Someting About the Squire

5. The Black Knight's Orders

6. The Black Knight's Fall Only avaible after reaching the rank of champion

Congratulations on your Monty Python reference achievement!
No, I didn't copy this from wowwiki.

Kommentar von Zillions

If you do this in a group, you will all get credit - and you can damage the Black Knight even if you're not mounted.

A guildie started it, I invited him to a group- he fought mounted and I just DPS'd, and we both got credit.

Both the Black Knight & his mount have only 50k HP.

Kommentar von poggg

The fight starts with the Black Knight on his gryphon (the one you hijacked earlier). He runs into the arena...with no stacks of defend and is HORRIBLE at fighting. The Argent Champion fight is a lot tougher.

If you down him fast enough, he won't force you into the dismount fight. He'll just keel over. If you do that, it's a hilariously anticlimactic battle.

Kommentar von Tsorovan

If you've made it to this point, you should be good enough at fighting to where you can beat him easily.

Stack up your defend before you talk to the squire.... he was dead before he ever dismounted and I got quest credit for it.

Easy as pie.

Kommentar von 31022

Note that you must use the "Stabled Argent Warhorse" to finish this. I tried four times riding my Warstrider and the game would not auto-dismount me after the Black Knight did. If I dismounted manually he would evade and then despawn.

Edit: The above problem has apparently been fixed in 3.1.1 and you can't summon unless you are riding the Argent Warhorse.

Other than this it's probably the easiest fight ever. The Black Knight puts up no defenses. Just get yours up to three, Charge him, hit him with your melee attack, and when he moves away to charge you, Charge him first and repeat.

Kommentar von 273576

So, you beat The Black Knight on horseback, and he challenges you to fight him man to man? You do just that, but then he runs to the center of the ring and disappears?

I just found out how to keep him from doing that.

After he challenges you to fight him off your mounts, do not dismount on your own, do not change your weapons, do not do ANYTHING. After he is done yelling, you will be AUTOMATICALLY dismounted... allow that to happen, and then the fight will begin. That's when it's safe to switch from your lance to your usual weapon.

Good luck!

Kommentar von 287206

For those of you wondering where the argent charger is that you're told to use: 72.3, 22.5 is the location mine was at. The stable is to the left of the Flight Master.

Kommentar von Ripenoli

If you he dismounts and begins evading try this: when he dismounts and tells you to dismount, don't dismount. Let him start attacking you and THEN dismount and kill him.

Kommentar von 199680

Evidentally, the Black Knight does NOT always triumph. We've been lied to.

Kommentar von 85016

All shall pass!

Kommentar von Ecwfrk

The horse you need is along the Keep wall right outside the Champion's Circle. NOT outside your faction's tent like the other mounts.

Patch 3.1.1 fixed an issue where you could summon and fight the Black Knight using a mount other than the Argent Warhorse. Many people were using the Forsaken/Stormwind Warhorses which caused him to despawn when Phase 1 completed.

Kommentar von Banchi

You need to be mounted on the Argent Warhorse now or you won't even get the option from the Squire to challenge him. Other than that, he's a simple joust and he didn't even put up a shield when I did it.

Kommentar von Bareno

I just learned that if you kill him fast enough (Normally accomplished by doing an Charge + Thrust), he'll totally skip the non mounted combat phase, just flops over dead, lol. You still get credit through, I did want to see what would of happened otherwise, so I just abandoned the quest, and than redone it with not killing him as fast.

Kommentar von 212244

I just killed him today. I summoned him using Squire while I was on the horse, and I didnt actually ever dismounted. I started and finished the fight on my horse, opposed to what people say that you finish him fighting him normally on the ground. I guess it was a bug or sth.

Kommentar von 262652

possibly the biggest let down ever, i was kinda sad really.

i can confirm he can be killed before he dismounts.
he ran away, while he was on the last chunk of his heath and i charged him. the hit killed him and he hadn't even gotten me down 2 45k health :(

Kommentar von 294028

Do not confuse the text reading "Argent Charger" for the mount "Argent Warhorse". A friend of mine ran around for about 20 minutes trying to find an Argent Charger. The Argent Warhorse located next to the Champions' Ring is the appropriate mount for this quest.

Kommentar von 252463

In my honest opinion, charging the vulnerable charge dummy was much more difficult than this Black Knight fellow.

Kommentar von 355773

Remember to pick the right horse (Argent Warhorse) otherwise you will not be able to call the black knight

Kommentar von 353420

Im not sure if the easiness of the fight is statement that he could only win if he could cheat..........or that Blizz poorly designed the fight to not give him an shields

Kommentar von 281025

very easy fight, killed him before he dismounted^^

Kommentar von 175818

This guy is made of fail. No wonder he burnt, poisoned, and knifed the competition.

Kommentar von Ilaeria

In summary:

1. You must be a champion of your home city before you can fight the Black Knight.
2. You must be mounted on the Argent Warhorse, near the flightmaster (in the Easternmost part of the long row of stables), and NOT your champion faction's mount, before you even get a chance to fight him.
3. You can't fight him while someone else is.
4. He's very, very, very, easy. Laughably easy. Maybe to go with the Black Knight from the Monty Python and the Holy Grail movie he's named after.
5. He sometimes dismounts and sometimes does not. It's unclear whether this is a timed or percentage-based thing. I watched 2 people fight him and he dismounted. When I fought him, he didn't. If he dismounts, DO NOT dismount yourself. You will automatically be dismounted. If he doesn't dismount, you still get credit: you don't need to fight him again.

Kommentar von 222832

Allright then. We'll call it a draw!

Kommentar von 187408

the reason why he is easy is again a monthy python reference, if you have seen the movie ''monthy python, quest for the holy grail'' then you'll see the knight in the movie is getting chopped into pieces in few seconds :)

Kommentar von Rorken

Killed him while he was still mounted. Strangely, he was not immune to Vindication (like everyone else); perhaps this has something to do with it?

Kommentar von 188301

its ony called the black knights fall if you kill him before he dismounts. XD

Kommentar von 256123

Just as reported before, if you charge him at a certain health you will do enough damage to completely skip the unmounted phase... I found this out while running my normal rotation on him.

Kommentar von Zukai

I beat him without having to go into the 2nd phase, he was a terrible jouster.
maybe it depends on how fast you beat him

Kommentar von 142629

This guys was pathetic. I killed him before he dismounted from his gryphon and he's barely made a scratch on me.

He is faster than the other champions/valiants so you need to act fast but again, he's a pushover so don't be too worried. He'll enter from the gate at Squire Cavin and will not give you distance, so you will have to use the melee attack for a while. He will run off, at which point you charge him and then sunder shield or w/e when you're coming around. Rinse and repeat. And always have your 3 shields up.

Melee --> Charge (when he runs off) --> Sunder shield (while turning out of the charge) --> Melee...

The above is the best method I've found to defeat any champion/valiant.

Kommentar von sherlockazulu

The Black Knight is SUPPOSED to suck if you know your Monty Python lore.

Help, help! I'm being repressed!

Kommentar von 361515

i just done the quest. put i did not desmount . I kill his on his mount.

Kommentar von VikingIrishman

Just completed this today, bugged when I dismounted and I still had my mount's hotbar. Luckily, my Tankadin buttons were still there so I just Sacred Shielded and beat on him with my lance. I'm sure he felt like an ass. :)

Kommentar von 12792

Found a odd thing from this quest.

If you choose never to hand this quest in then you get acsess to the arget warhorse for use in all your Tournamnet quests. While on it you can challenge champions and everything.

You will lose out on the Chillmaw quest and its rewards. But for those of you who dont care to much about those rewards or if you jsut like the Argent crusade then you can run around pretending to be a Arget crusader.

Its same as other mounts just looks different. Also you only get two flags on your back rather then a champions three.

Perosnally I like being a orc on what is basically a paladins basic mount ^^.

Kommentar von 368192

I have the quest and I am a champion (i have got the achievment). When I talk to Cavin, I don't have the option for him to summon the Black Knight. What do I do wrong? (I am self 79 lvl) .
I have using the "Stabled Argent Warhorse".
And nobody has fighting with him...

Kommentar von Arkham

Am I the only one who dismounted manually and didn't have him bug out? I jumped off my mount when he challenged me, equipped my regular weapon, and beat him down with no problems. No evade bugging or anything. Yet it seems like everyone else who jumped off had a different experience.

Kommentar von asthyril

I have done this quest 7 times now (I know I play WoW too much) and I didn't think anything of the first time I killed him before he dismounted, but the second time it was with my mage, who is female. Thinking back to the first time it happened I remembered it was with my priest, who is my only other female character to do it. It made me think of what he says when he dismounts ("fight me man to man" or something similar). Can anyone confirm/deny it happening on a male character? Would make sense (albeit very little) if it worked this way, or maybe it was just coincidence.

Kommentar von zekzorz

I don't know why, but I can't mount the Stabled Argent Warhorse. I can see it standing there with some other mounts at 72.22. I have my alliance lance equipped, but I just can't see the arrow when holding my mouse over the horse.

Anyone else encountering this problem`?

Kommentar von Mikko9

1st get your mount around
then talk to Calvin @

Kommentar von inmanjm

ok ok ok ... here's a new one.... when he dismounted, I was automatically dismounted... and all my toolbars disappeared. So, I started whacking on him with the lance by right-click-autoattacking, and I beat him with like 2% health.

classic.

oh, and I'm still looking for my toolbars.

Kommentar von barrymcociner

I just killed the Black Knight without second phase or anything. I just killed him still on bird.

Kommentar von 283482

I wasn't paying attention and the black knight killed my mount but then i just changed to my regular weapon and killed him and he never got off his griffin for hand to hand combat.

Kommentar von Doroo

Mhh. I just kiled him, The Black Knight slain 1/1 it was a normal duel, nothing special :)

Kommentar von Grimus

Requirements to have Squire Calvin summon the Black Knight:
1 - Have the quest.
2 - Equip your Argent Lance (Horde Lance will not work).
3 - Be riding the Argent Warhorse near the Flight master.
4 - No one else is fighting him.

Requirement 2 is not mentioned thus far, prompting me to post.

Kommentar von 158862

i got on my horse and it was like any other duel exept that i killed him on my mount. i didnt get dismounted

Kommentar von 101832

I fought him, and killed him mounted on the steed, and while he was still on his gryphon.
He is actually really easy to defeat.
Grab an Argent Warhorse from the stable.
Buff up before you talk to Squire Cavin.
Once fully buffed, talk to Cavin, and ask for him to summon the Black Knight.
The Black Knight will appear from the stables area, and he will run to the center of the jousting ring. Don't follow him, just wait next to Cavin.
You are not able to attack him until he buffs, which only takes a few seconds.
The easiest strategy i have come across on all jousting duels, is to let the enemy run out to the center (which the black knight does right away), then once the enemy is attack-able, i immediately Charge him, run around in a sort of circle away from him, and then shield breaker him. That may seem confusing, but its just like attacking him, and while your horse is in its sprint after charging, just run around in a circle until you are right back next to him. While you are running in that circle, throw a Shield Breaker to take down another shield. After that just thrust him until he runs away again, but do not chase him, just simply wait for your charge to activate (or be in range sort of) and charge and reapeat the circle as mentioned above. Just repeat as needed.

If you didn't read what was above
1. Charge
2. Shield Breaker
3. Thrust until he runs again
continue to step 1 as needed.
This i believe is probably one of the best strategies for any duel in the tourney.
It can down a valiant in under a minute and the Black Knight took me 27 seconds.
Good Luck.

Kommentar von oldgreg

Killed him before he dismounted, too easy but I'm not complaining. :)

Kommentar von 338670

I was like...are you serious...thats it? IMO, The Black Knight is a punk.

Kommentar von everett1993

it is confirmed if u use the standard hit on the horse at the right time he will die apparently it wasnt just a flesh wound

Kommentar von 433509

i didnt even have to get off my mount he just ran around in circles and i killed him

Kommentar von Koragos

DO NOT dismount manually, it took me three tries before I realized this.
He dismounts you automatically.

Kommentar von 234513

I just did this and it did not dismount me automatically like the above posts state. After he yelled his thing about dismounting and fighting man to man, he buffed himself and ran to me and started whacking at me. I ended up just manually dismounting myself and re-equipping my weapon and was able to kill him normally, as if he had dismounted me himself.

Don't know if it is just a new bug or what, but just in case, if he doesn't dismount you by the time he starts attacking you, you can dismount yourself and be fine.

Kommentar von 336403

I'm getting pretty annoyed at this one today. First time I forgot and manually got off the mount, he ran away. Then the next time I remembered you usually had to let him dismount you, so I did that and he never dismounted me, so he ended up running away.

Kommentar von gankdalf

Wow this was dissapointing.
While hes mounted he can take about 4 charges before he falls, then he asks you to fight him man-to-man, thats where it gets promising.
Then you jump off you mount and he charges you and... well then you notice he has 12k hp and you 2 shot him and go collect your reward ._.

Kommentar von 387589

Is it just me or does the black knight without his mask look like
Eadric the Pure <Grand Champion of the Argent Crusade>

Kommentar von 495711

I killed him twice and I never got the quest completed

Waited for him to dismount and for me and then I changed wep and killed him in 5 seconds..

Second time I did the same but kept the Lance equiped and still didnt count...
Anyone else have this problem?

Update: 4th time still no quest complete..

Kommentar von healingenzo

OMG - what a pussy. Dranei DK with 600 DPS & a Titansteel Destroyer. Farted on him & he died. What a loser !

When I feel in a bad mood, I kill the Fel Reaver or Durn the Hungerer for fun. This guy is nada.

Kommentar von 556012

Do not dismount yourself as poster above posted..i did it for like 6 times i thought he was buged or something =(

Kommentar von Massacher

lol i killed him in less than 30 seconds. no effort at all.

Kommentar von Cyberthube

oke just to be clear you need to talk to Squire Cavin (he is at the entrance of the fighting area) and he will summon the black knight.

Squire Cavin look like an little kid with a flag standing on a box.

Kommentar von zootlewurdle

This quest is currently broken it seems. After defeating the Black Knight in mounted combat he dismounts but at no time is the player automatically dismounted. And yes, I'm using the Stabled Argent Warhorse. You just sit there, on your warhorse, while he his you with his sword. If at any time you manually dismount he will despawn.

Kommentar von 346958

As you may know, tournament progression must be re-completed if you transfer factions. This quest can be picked up again but Cavin will not summon the Black Knight. Fret not. You still have your achievement from the previous run and completion is not required for access to the Champion dailies.

Kommentar von 589115

I recently had a functions change from alliance to horde!
As an ally i had complete all the Argnt tournament quest and achivs but as any other functions change you lost some achivs about reputation only!
I still have the achiv ''Its just a flesh woond''!
Now i am in this quest to summon the Black Knight but the npc doesnt have the any choise!
Am i trapped or bugged! I want so i can unlock the quest ''Threat from above''!
GM's still dont answer me after 2 days!
If some1 can help me it would be perfect::D

Kommentar von 195790

Note: You need to be a Champion to pick up this Quest. I had just turned in the last quest as a mere Aspirant and wondered why I wouldn't get the follow up, you must be a champion to do so. The following taken from Blizzard Website:

Rise to a Champion:

While not all of the daily quests here involve mounted combat, it is the focus of the tournament. All participants will begin as an Aspirant and be given quests to let you practice the basic mechanics of mounted combat against target dummies.

Each of the daily quests you complete will reward you with an Aspirant’s Seal. After a couple days of practicing your skills you will be able to gather enough of these seals to challenge an NPC and should you succeed, you will attain the rank of valiant of your race’s respective home city.

As a valiant you will be given a similar set of daily quests to continue your training, each of these daily quests will reward you with a Valiant’s Seal and after enough days of practicing you will be ready for another challenge, if you complete this challenge you will become a champion of your city!

Edit: Fixed a typo I saw.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I can't seem to get this quest? I have finished the one prior and this is not offered. Do you have to finish the 25 stars quest to be able to fight in the ring that the black knight appears in. So they just will not offer this quests till then?

nvm I found the answer in the completion notes of the previous quest.

<Crusader Rhydalla's face pales as she reads the orders.>

This can only mean one thing, <name>. The Black Knight is a member of the Cult of the Damned and has been sent by Arthas to disrupt the tournament!

The Black Knight has proven himself a fearsome combatant, and you will need to be every bit as good if you wish to face him. When you are a champion, return to me and we'll find a way to ensure his defeat.

Edited, Jan 28th 2010 7:04am by ColdHeartid

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I hate the jousting and put off this quest. When I did it I was amazed at how easy he was. He didn't put shields up like the others do. He appeared on a gryphon and jousted from there. I got him down pretty easily. Apparently his fight is meant to go to a phase where you fight him on foot but I beat him before that happened.
I still hate the other jousting ones. :p

Kommentar von Allakhazam

When Crusader Rhydalla directs you to: "Use my argent charger for the battle," she means use the Stabled Argent Warhorse (Alliance and Horde) on the east end of the stable next to The Ring of Champions.

You can get on other mounts, but they wouldn't work. If you use them, Squire Calvin wouldn't summon the Black Knight.

Edited, May 28th 2009 6:40am by kstahmer

Kommentar von Jaxors

Currently bugged if you don't kill him before he dismounts.

Workaround:
1. Mount up on the Stabled Argent Warhorse with your Lance equipped.
2. Speak with Squire Cavin and summon The Black Knight.
3. Immediately dismount after summoning The Black Knight.
4. Kill him.
5. Profit.

Kommentar von maelunoc

2023 Fix: Dismount right away while the black knight is running into the ring. Bring him down to low health, he will dismount, then you can kill him.

Kommentar von Filipino77

I got everything right. Equip lance and Stabled Argend Warhorse. Horse phase is normal. Black Knight dismounts and he fights with my horse, i will not dismount. I do nothing and in 10 minutes he kills my horse and runs away... enyoy

Kommentar von drakobg

If you dismount after the Black Knight is dismounted it will evade. Funny how this bug was implemented in classic. The solution. Bring a friend or ask for help. Do not dismount and let someone else kill the Black Knight. You'll get the credit.

Kommentar von remotettl

as of 1.feb 2023:
* use alliance horse only. if your horde and looking for mount, take alliance one. otherwise npc wount talk to you and give you the black knight to be summoned.
* just fight him on horse
* let him dps down your horse, it will take some time, but he will do it. before you engage him, dont put shields on yourself, it will make it faster.
* when he kills your horse, dps him down, its easy 12,5k hp is few hits.
* done.

if you equip your weapons, hes gone, if you dismount yourself, hes gone. need to allow him to dps down your horse, like you did with his. so he has some pride left before he died i assume.

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Der Sturz des Schwarzen Ritters

Besiegt den Schwarzen Ritter und sprecht anschließend mit Kreuzfahrerin Rhydalla beim Argentumturnierplatz.

	Der Schwarze Ritter getötet (1)

Beschreibung

Wir müssen den finsteren Plänen des Schwarzen Ritters ein Ende setzen und unseren Widersachern zeigen, dass wir nicht untätig daneben stehen und zusehen, wie unsere Champions ermordet werden.

Er wird mittlerweile annehmen, dass Ihm jemand auf den Fersen ist. Fordert ihn am helllichten Tage zum Kampf heraus, <Name> - wenn er nicht ablehnen oder jemanden im Dunklen ermorden kann.

Nehmt mein Argentumstreitross für den Kampf. Es steht in den Stallungen, in der Nähe des Argentumpavillons.

Sprecht dann mit Knappe Cavin im Ring der Champions. Der Knappe wird den Schwarzen Ritter zum Kampf rufen und Ihr werdet ihn für seine Taten büßen lassen.

Fortschritt

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Ihr bekommt:

	[PH] Bridle of the Argent Charger

Belohnungen

Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

350 Ruf mit der Fraktion Argentumkreuzzug

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(13664))

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