Kurzübersicht

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1.	Gothik der Ernter
2.	Das Geschenk, das nicht aufhört zu schenken
3.	Gelegenheitsangriff
4.	Massaker am Lichtgipfel
5.	Sieg an der Todesbresche!
6.	Der Wille des Lichkönigs
7.	Die Krypta der Erinnerung
8.	Es gibt kein Entrinnen
9.	Wie man Freunde gewinnt und Feinde beeinflusst

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Kommentar von 20641

Equip Keleseth's Persuaders in both hands and keep beating on Scarlet mobs until one of them finally tells you about the Crimson Dawn.

Kommentar von Thurnee

This quest's name refrences the book How to Win Friends and Influence People as well as a film based on a memoir whose name is a play on words of the name of the original book. (How to Lose Friends and Alienate People)

Kommentar von Jessikka

Next Quest: Behind Scarlet Lines

Kommentar von 99801

took me about 5 mobs to kill

Kommentar von 180985

It took me 35 minutes to complete this quest... not fun at all.

Kommentar von Shenlong

I suggest just using moves that count as weapon strikes, such as Scourge/Blood/Death Strike. Spells like Icy Touch and Death Coil don't count towards hits with the poker, so all you're doing is killing the mobs faster.

Kommentar von Werlwind

Took me one Scarlet Commander :)

Randomness ftw

Kommentar von 240649

Best way to do this quest, is to only auto-attack. Be ready to stop attacking once the persuasion symbol appears (Mob is stunned).
If no result after it times out, start auto-attacking again.

Kommentar von 6665

Don't forget to equip your 2 hand weapon after your done with the quest or you be wondering like me whats going on when you try to attack other mobs LOL ;-)

Kommentar von jason15ju

has anyone else noticed how the "swords" actualy look like hot pokers... reference to the old fashioned torture techniques used to make people talk perhaps?

Kommentar von 205110

This does take a while, don't worry, keep going.

Kommentar von 222832

This quest is soo much wanna be that torturer boss in sm gy xD

Kommentar von Thorhoof

Ok this quest is BS! Took me over 30 minutes to complete. Be sure to only auto-swing, as others suggest.

Kommentar von 236322

wow i got hem to tell me on my 4th hit

Kommentar von 246005

Make sure you do this away from the zombie NPCs, the first time I go an answer, the zombies killed my target before I could complete the quest. It took me around 20 more kills to complete. Quite frustrating.

Kommentar von tumbirs

Me and my friend got this done almost the same way.

We attacked priests in dual-wield and for me it was the male priest cuz am female and for my friend it was the female priest as he was male. (odd but funny)

Kommentar von 221774

it have taken me about 150 kills and im still not done :P i dont know if im doing any wrong...

Kommentar von 235696

the best thing i can say is just auto attack

took me like five or six(must be lucky)

Kommentar von pr0found

Since noone is actually specific as to Which scarlet soldiers to interrogate, you wanna be at Scarlet Hold. 60,68 ;]

Kommentar von 117596

I got this in one try, just equip the swords given (duel-wield) and just auto-attack until they confess. Make sure your attacking a higher lvl scarlet not the lowbies.

Kommentar von 248020

just so u all know its the scarlet crusaders that u have to talk too to get it on the first try or it was mine at least the quest does say scarlet crusaders

Kommentar von 247440

Took me about 56 mobs before getting one to talk. Make sure both swords are equiped to increase your chances of a mob speaking.

Kommentar von 235401

funniest quest ever!

Kommentar von 242645

I am starting to believe that those mobs doesn't really know the truth about crimson dawn.

Kommentar von 178350

I killed about 20 preachers and a handful of marksmen. The one that finally talked to me was a "Scarlet Crusader".

Kommentar von 256460

yay got it on first kill ^-^

Kommentar von 123447

Funny fact, a mob said i was hitting like a girl...

Note that i was playing a Night Elf Female :+

Kommentar von 277508

"Crimson Dawn" is an allusion to "Red Dawn."

Kommentar von 133783

1. Attacking anything "Scarlet" will work.
2. Auto attack - make sure you have the swords equiped.
3. Took me two kills, shouldn't take you anymore than that.

Kommentar von 284280

I think theres a trick with getting this quicker
i just auto attacked and the mob got stunned like 4 times.. maby itl work if u get a big number of stuns on him.

Kommentar von Chariot

You say: I'll tear the secrets from your soul! Tell me about the "Crimson Dawn" and your life may be spared!
You say: Tell me what you know about "Crimson Dawn" or the beatings will continue!
You say: I'm through being courteous with your kind, human! What is the "Crimson Dawn?"
You say: Is your life worth so little? Just tell me what I need to know about "Crimson Dawn" and I'll end your suffering quickly.
You say: I can keep this up for a very long time, Scarlet dog! Tell me about the "Crimson Dawn!"
You say: What is the "Crimson Dawn?"
You say: "Crimson Dawn!" What is it! Speak!
Crusader says: You'll be hanging in the gallows shortly, Scourge fiend!
Crusader says: You'll have to kill me, monster! I will tell you NOTHING!
Crusader says: You hit like a girl. Honestly. Is that the best you can do?
Crusader says: ARGH! You burned my last good tabard!
Crusader says: Argh... The pain... The pain is almost as unbearable as the lashings I received in grammar school when I was but a child.
Crusader says: I used to work for Grand Inquisitor Isillien! Your idea of pain is a normal mid-afternoon for me!

If you should break the crusader:
Crusader says: I'll tell you everything! STOP! PLEASE!
Crusader says: We... We have only been told that the "Crimson Dawn" is an awakening. You see, the Light speaks to the High General. It is the Light...
Crusader says: The Light that guides us. The movement was set in motion before you came... We... We do as we are told. It is what must be done.
Crusader says: I know very little else... The High General chooses who may go and who must stay behind. There's nothing else... You must believe me!
You say: LIES! The pain you are about to endure will be talked about for years to come!
Crusader says: NO! PLEASE! There is one more thing that I forgot to mention... A courier comes soon... From Hearthglen. It...
Scarlet Preacher dies from the torture.

Kommentar von 250428

Not sure if this was the case, but i was bored and i went and runegraved them and it took bloody forever to get one to talk. On another DK i made, i got it on the first one.

Kommentar von 180926

lol, I only had to kill 4 mobs and the 5th one told me.
it took me around 3 minutes or something.

Kommentar von Thrakin

A good tip for this Q is to locate 'Scarlet Lord Jesseriah McCree' and wait for him to attack the ghouls. They'll tank him (but never kill him, he has loads of HP) and you can keep autoattacking him without having to switch mobs when they die. Should you run out of ghouls, you'll be able to survive easily; If needed, use one of the Runic Power + Health pots from The Plaguebringer's Request.

Kommentar von 242012

I have went through 70.....got a epic weapon but still haven't got it yet

Kommentar von 303387

70 kills? this is nothing! the thing i've understanded is that u have ti be in killing spree and not stop having kills even not for 1 min just kill fast..... i killed more than 100 the first time but 23 with the 2nd deathknight(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##Thulm##DELIM##

Kommentar von 311279

Best way I've found to do this is to take off all your gear except the pokers and then just auto attack. You will do much less damage so the mob lives a lot longer in order to get off more stuns and chances for them to cave and complete the quest for you.

Also, as of 3.0.8, it seems that if you have multiple mobs on you and one of them completes the quest it bugs and kicks you off the server.

Kommentar von 299568

Most annoying quest ever. Despite it being fun to interrogate people, the amount of times you may end up doing it is ridiculous.

On my first DK, I spent about 20 mins doing it and just today on my second, I spent about an hour trying to get it. But I guess I can't complain, at least we dont have to deal with murloc's (*mumbles* I hate murloc's)

Kommentar von Megakiller

Guys i REALY NEED HELP SOS!First i killed like 600 hundret times everyone in that villige and nothing.... :@ i realy need help

Kommentar von LuthofDS

I have found out that if you first hit a Scarlet Crusader with your normal 2hand weapon (not sure if you need to, but i used plague strike) and then switch to the 2 1hand quest items, the Crusader ALWAYS tells you what you need to know immediatly. Just my 2 cents.

Kommentar von Megakiller

Not working... :(

Kommentar von Lmjkdd6

Yeah, it's really random which one will tell you the info. On my DK I got it on my first kill but my brother took over 50 kills.

Kommentar von 189687

This quest is more painful to me than it is to the scarlet crusade.

Kommentar von Necrogenic

Well then. Mob #178 finally decided to cave in and give me the information. Ridiculous.

Forced grinding ftl.

Kommentar von 338095

I got the confession on literally the first strike. Pull out my pokers, one hit on a Scarlet Commander and done. I was amazed, because I knew this usually took a few dozen kills of mindless autoattack to achieve.

Right before the last text line, a pack of ghouls came and killed him.

Was 39 mobs before I got another confession.

Kommentar von 267194

Chariot,Not to beall up in ur face but u missed a message that ur Dk says when ur torturing the enemy, cant remeber how it goes but this is what i remember,

YouSay: Tell me what i want to know scarlet dog or ill tear out ur spine with my bare hands!

Awesomest message of all the things ur dk says when ur torturing the enemy

Kommentar von 350240

is this really the last quest you can work for the lich king and the scourge is friendly? i mean come on the has to be another quest. I hope blizzard adds more quest so you can work for the lich king. =D

Kommentar von 353380

Last time I Tortured em for 15 minutes now I got it from first mob, realy simple Quest

Kommentar von 357693

I got it on my second kill. I killed a scarlet preacher.

Kommentar von Sleutel

Scarlet Preacher: You hit like a girl. Honestly. Is that the best you can do?
Scarlet Preacher: Look out! There's a bee on the loose and it's on a stinging rampage!

Kommentar von 240252

While the randomness is indeed annoying, I enjoy this quest for the simple fact that I can grind xp with very little effort and still finish a quest eventually. I will admit I was pleased the first 3 or 4 times I did this quest, I finished on the first mob. Today, it's taking far more kills than I like. Still, easy xp (I stop to heal about once every 5 mobs or so), easy silver, and every once in a while a green drop.

Crappy quest design, to be sure, but worth it in the end.

And does anyone else enjoy the sheer irony of a scarlet preacher spilling the beans?

Kommentar von 363535

3.0.9 i made 96 kills and still nothing

Kommentar von trillz

My first DK I did this quest equipped 1 sword got it first try.

Made another on friends server since im not xferring my main there, have 2 equipped took 30mins+

sigh.

Kommentar von Kalthanis

Every time I've done this quest (2 or 3 times) I've got it first mob, every time.

Sucks for you guys ;P

Kommentar von 25970

Completing this quest is the real torture.

Kommentar von 161672

i grinded out like 2 levels then leveled once i turned in the quest.
it takes a very long time.

Kommentar von 329920

Few things to note for this quest.
1. Auto attacking is the way to go.
2. It seems as thou the weapons have a internal cooldown. this of course meaning it will only work again after a set amount of time.
3 After many attempts i narrowed it down to about 5-9 secs internal cooldown.

Because of this, i found the best way to do this quest is get a mob and begin autoattacking, the moment it procs. hit your esc key to stop attacking..if it didnt work start counting from the moment it was applied to the mob. and hit again, this way you do get alot of white damage and kill the mob. it will proc off the bat again. continue this till it tell you what u want to know. Simple as that:) killed 30-40 mobs before noticing it had a CD on it. and then just had one mob and did no damage to it. got it to spill the beans:) GL

Kommentar von 292040

First time I did this quest, it took me about 100 skills. If it just was a "normal" quest, it would be smart to just skip it, but since you need it to get the follow-ups, that's not an option. So, put on music, and start farming! ;)

Kommentar von Assassin007

This can go great when getting Crusaders Skulls because you can end up with Noth's Special Brew.

Kommentar von 363376

lol, at the first strike the mob started talking

Kommentar von Mymloch

"highly effective" my ass

Kommentar von 15939

I think the swords have an internal cooldown on the proc. If this is true, the best way to get many more stuns on one mob (and increase your chances of confession per mob) is to stop auto-attacking once you see the stun, then back away. Wait at least 5 seconds after the stun wears off before you begin attacking again.

Kommentar von 418114

Got this after about 9 kills, pretty easy :)

Kommentar von boniu

its a fun parody film : How to lose friend and aliente people" ;p

Kommentar von Athena84

This is how I dit it.. I equipped the 2 weapons and unequipped the rest of my gear, this way you have more time to torture the mob. I started hitting the melee ones, the third one was one on a horse... I got it fast.

Kommentar von 434466

First Npc, Objective Completed :)

Kommentar von 433468

OMFG i am like the luckiest of all i only killed 3 and he told me it the 3rd that was omg lucky normally you take 50 and mnow here 3 (btw i only used auto attack no other) yess i am lucky ^^

Kommentar von 481816

Oddly, I'd killed what feels like at least dozens of Scarlet, went here for some advice, stripped down to just the pokers in order to do less damage -- and the next two hits *both* caused jibbering confessions rather then complaints that I was doing *too little* damage. I can't think why that'd be other then a bug, but it worked...

Kommentar von Zaratje

Almost all DK quests give extra talent points. Nothing special with it...

Kommentar von jeian7

Sigh.

So there I was, on my 50th or so Scarlet, and finally one of them decides to talk. While I'm listening to him, ANOTHER Scarlet notices me and comes over to rough me up a bit. I've already got one of them talking to me, I figure I don't need another, so I opt to kill him as quickly as I can. Well, on the FIRST PROC, the guy breaks down and decides to tell me everything.

So basically I killed about fifty guys, then got two in a row to talk.

Frickin' RNG. >:[

Kommentar von Kelthurin

Well after hitting the mob with the 2h and then with the 2 1 handed weps it finally worked! Thank you guys!

Kommentar von Zenodice

Confirming this is random, I got it on my first attack and only had to hit a crusader once to get the right dialog (They will say, Stop I'll tell you everything".

Meanwhile my girlfriend was right beside me on her DK and it took her 20+ kills.

So yeah, if you don't get it right away, don't give up, it may just take awhile (i'd do nothing but auto attack just in case that influences it somehow).

RNG is awesome!

Kommentar von 329758

The easiest and fastest way to do this is to blood strike them once, and stop attacking. Once the smoke goes away, blood strike again. Rinse, repeat.
Blood strike immediately causes the questioning effect.

Kommentar von 353888

It's really just random on whether you get the info on certain hits or not. My advice:
When they are stunned STOP ATTACKING. You get a lot more hits in that way, thus a larger chance for them to speak.
Goodluck! (You'll need it!) >.<

Kommentar von 353888

Also: I just remembered, this does NOT work on citizans. Don't try it, because it will NOT work.

Kommentar von 500067

this quest is so annoying one time i killed people and then one was about to talk but then a ghoul from the gate came in and killed him..... watch out for the ghouls that come in.

Kommentar von 558249

Has anyone killed so many scarlet crusaders that by the time you can finally turned in the quest that youve leveled so much the quest is gray to you? It seems possible...

Kommentar von Elvage

What I've done is equip one of the swords and hit the mob once he talks wait another 5 seconds without attacking and then attack again and it should do it instantly and repeat the method.

Kommentar von Zalmiak

82 crusaders before one of them told me, god i hate this quest..

Kommentar von nonentity

Damn I #$%^ing hate this quest. I've been killing a metric #$%^ ton of Scarlets now ... nothing... (using the pokers of course).

Funny thing is... the quest gets harder the longer you do it. You skill up 1-Hand swords, thus hit more often, do more damage, kill them faster, have to find new targets faster instead of whacking on one for quite a while.

Kommentar von 321609

"I'll tear the secrets from your soul!"

Is anyone else reminded of a certain interrogator?

Kommentar von nick5454

Ok guys did it on 3rd kill.

Here's what happened at the gate with ghouls wached on 2 horses guys. nothing bu defiance.

I'm almost dead (20%) so the last one I icy frist, ds, ss, and run then turn around icy him once more and he spills the beans. He his now at the end of the gate next to the crytp where this starts.

sounds like a way to glitch it.

i done, but good info.

Nick

Kommentar von Allakhazam

open the box, equip the swords and kill the guys at (60, 68)

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I was able to complete the quest in 5 kills.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

You'll know you've succeeded when one of them makes you stop attacking them, gives a little speech, then dies.

When I did this quest, it was buggy. They'd give the speech, but I wouldn't get quest completion. Dropping it and redoing it worked.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I had to kill about 10 Scarlet Crusaders before one talked to me and I completed the quest.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

I'm a dwarf, and I love dual wield. So, as soon as I equiped the "persuaders", I sold the initial sword and went "upstairs" to put runes on my new swords. What I didn't realize was: He takes them back when the quest is over!

Fortunately, "buyback" was still active (I hadn't signed out), so I was able to get my old sword back.

Forewarned and all that...

Kommentar von WokkaD

This is a reference to Dale Carnegie's 1936 book : How To Win Friends And Influence People

Kommentar von Quaaid

For those of us who don't care at all about Classic and just want the promotion mount, be forewarned that if you have a full inventory when you open the box, the persuaders just won't appear. And who knows where a mailbox might be, because Classic....

Kommentar von Caras

Playing through this on Classic, and remembering how this went way back when, the comments about the randomness of the proc could be wrong. Try unequipping armor (have a healing pot handy, and then only auto-attack until you get the proc. Stop attacking, count to 8-mississippi, then auto-attack until the proc. Rinse, repeat. After 6-7 procs of the weapons' ability, you should have a high chance of getting the info you need.

Kommentar von Badkitty

Just FYI the quest giver drops a red box into your bags that looks just like a jewelers kit.
You have to open that and equip the weapon(s) on your character. (You can choose one or two handers)
Then get to fighting.

Kommentar von alsulf

all you need is to equip Keleseth's Persuader then hit Scarlet guards, hit once, and it talks, then hit again, it talks again, and hits third if it's the one it will keep talking, but if it's not it will die.

Kommentar von QuaGMeiSTeR

This quest .... started a DK with a friend, he completed the quest in like 5 kills... 20 mins later I was still hoping for that crusader that will give me the info ...

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Wie man Freunde gewinnt und Feinde beeinflusst

Prinz Keleseth in der Krypta der Erinnerung hat Euch befohlen, die Wahrheit über den "Scharlachroten Morgen" herauszufinden.

Nehmt Keleseths Überzeuger aus der juwelenbesetzten Schatulle und bringt damit einen Scharlachroten Kreuzzügler zum Reden.

	Geheimnis des "Scharlachroten Morgens" gelüftet (1)

Bereitgestellter Gegenstand:

	Juwelenbesetzte Schatulle (1)

Beschreibung

Auf meinen Weltreisen habe ich mehrere interessante Entdeckungen gemacht. Habt Ihr zum Beispiel gewusst, dass man einem Mann jede auch noch so verheimlichte Wahrheit entlocken kann, indem man ihn nur richtig dazu ermutigt? Wie es das Glück so will, habe ich ein wenig "Ermutigung" zur Hand.

<Keleseth nimmt etwas aus einer juwelenbesetzten Schatulle.>

Dies ist mein "Überzeuger", wie ich ihn nenne. Legt ihn an und zieht aufs Feld hinaus, Todesritter. Richtet das spitze Ende auf die Soldaten von Neu-Avalon. Findet die Wahrheit über den "Scharlachroten Morgen" heraus.

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	Keleseths Siegelring

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Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(12720))

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