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Kommentar von cawfee

Drops from ... you guessed it, the Black Knight in H. ToC (5-man).

This is an ideal weapon for Mutilate rogues to use as either a PvE Mainhand or as Dual-Wield solution for PvP, and nicely evens the playing field with the other 219-ilevel items available before this was introduced in 3.2.2. It also replaces the Direbrew's Shanker 2.0 as the best non-Raid-obtainable dagger for its purpose.

Kommentar von blatterjr

Confirmed non-unique.

Kommentar von 268034

Acctually the first time ive seen toc5 HC loot table was... wtf weapons for all clases but rogues can only need for the gun? Totally an expectable loot tbh.

Kommentar von 461038

Okay well. I picked this weapon up today in Heroic ToC. I didn't need it or anything but I got it (by winning a greed) and I was looking at it and I was wondering if it would be suitable to actually use. I AM a hunter. I see a lot of rogues using this, so I am just wondering if I am even a LITTLE bit crazy for wanting to use this! lol What do you guys think? And if it seems sensible, what offhand could I pair this with?

Kommentar von 283255

Got another one today,got now x2 for my PvP Mutilate spec great daggers for starting to grinding honor.

Kommentar von 460444

What is the droprate of this item?
I mean, 0.1% doesn't sound fair to me.
Maybe because it hasn't updated yet or am I wrong?

Kommentar von crusader666

Dropped for my muti rogue today, and I was totally not expecting it, didnt even know he could drop it :P

Kommentar von 115159

according to wow armory it has a 3-14% chance of dropping from black knight on heroic mode

Kommentar von 168002

Would this be a good OH with Direbrews shanker MH?

Kommentar von 354963

I actually had to look up what a Rondel was:

A rondel dagger (pronounced /ˈrɒndəl/) or roundel dagger was a type of stiff-bladed dagger in Europe in the late Middle Ages (from the 14th century onwards), used by a variety of people from merchants to knights. It was worn at the waist and might be used as a utility tool, or worn into battle or a jousting tournament as a side-arm.

Kommentar von AltriX

I've done this boss everyday since the patch, never had it drop. >.<

Kommentar von sharpnova

Not sure what sources you've been reading, but a slow is better. It's better for poison damage and for instant damage.

Wound and instant poisons have been proc/minute for over a month now and instants (and white) have always been wpn damage + 1.7*(ap/14) Only deadly poison remains 30% for hit and benefits from faster weapons. I believe this is a pve thing. I don't use deadly since it's not particularly viable in arena.

note: the 1.7 is the modifier for daggers. different weapons have different normalization coefficients.

Slower is better in general.

Kommentar von 322383

I have to say that this dagger is way easier to obtain than the other slow Melee DPS dagger, the https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=46011 from General Vezax. First of all, despite the "low" droprate (Had to farm ToC eleven times to see it drop) is easier to aquire for a Casual Raider. Second, it is way better if you're Expertise capped (And with emblems' equip and tier 8 pieces, getting Expertise capped is easy) and you can afford to lose a few points of hit rating, gaining in exchange a good 0.72% crit. For a Casual PVE player, this dagger is truly a blessing. It is slow, good DPS, great stats, and it looks really good. Slap a Berserker enchant on it and enjoy this wonderful baby (This replaced my Anarchy, so it was a great upgrade^^)

Kommentar von MilknessDalvengy

I've ran this place upwards of 30 times, never seen this drop. My gun finally dropped on my rogue, no shoulders for my Paladin and still no boots for my Rogue. And now I want these after seeing my friend who is a Mutilate Rogue (I'm combat maces).
BTW: did they JUST add this? I JUST started seeing it a few weeks ago.

Edit: Just saw this drop. I'm happy, just one more to go.

Edit 2: Also dropped on my Paladin today. Guess the drop rate is getting higher for me. I hope it drops again tommarow :)

Kommentar von Vezon64

It seems that the drop rate of this weapon is incredibly low (probably even lower than that of Paletress' Marrowstrike weapon). Of all the times I've run H ToC (which is countless, I will tell you that), only once have I seen this drop; it dropped earlier today... everyone greed rolled, but luckily, I managed to win it.

Kommentar von 69947

How about DW'ing this as a muti rogue?..
Would that be better than having a faster (lower dps) dagger in offhand.

Kommentar von 268034

Accually this is pretty nice dagger if you are using 200iLvl ones such as Direbrew Shanker 2.0 and The Fleshshaper this is way better, still idd dont use berseking enchant on it, a 50AP/Mongoose/26Agi is way more fit to that weapon, with probably using Rusted Gutgore Ripper as MH from Ony10 being able to put atleast 3.7k DPS buffed with a simple Horn of Winter, the high end-dmg is rediculusly high, near acctualy to the Twin Spike from TOC25 Normal and the Furious Gladiator's Mutilator wich appernetly isnt obtainable anymore so the only gladiator one beeing Relentless Gladiator's Mutilator.

Kommentar von Turostin

Good for combat rogues?

Kommentar von 206792

I am duel wielding these on my mutilate rogue, upgrade from Webbed Death naxx25 and Titansteel shanker. needless to say its a welcome upgrade, and i'm about to be joining the uld/toc10 gruops in my guild thanks to the boost. (whenever i get a day off >.<)

Kommentar von 474215

how can this dagger possibly drop any less, been there 25 times now, and not one single drop, its insane!

Kommentar von 220744

Horrible, horrible drop rate.

Went 18 runs without seeing one, at which point I no longer needed it after getting 2 daggers from ToC10 and ToC25.

Kommentar von 481264

I'm not saying I'm having bad luck getting this so far, but all the casters in my guild want to run this with me because they know the Spectral Kris will drop and not the Rondel if I'm in the run... :)

Kommentar von 467007

Sorry to be that guy but..
I got two of these the first two times I did the instance.

lulz.

Kommentar von 391828

Hate to say it, but it dropped for me my first time in H-Toc

Kommentar von Scifi42

Is This too slow for combat rogue ?..i got BRB tankard mace on MH..and need some good OH..will this suit ?

Kommentar von 163106

its been 15days of H ToC, and it still hasnt dropped :( poo

Kommentar von 292661

Heh got my first one today :)
Edge of ruin dropped on FC
Marrowstrike dropped on Confessor
Rondel off BK

Best run ever, let the hate ensue lol

Kommentar von 348759

got x2 of these on my assassin rogue in only 3 days :D

Kommentar von 206792

This dropped for me 2 days in a row on my rogue. Ive been countless times since then on both my rogue and pally, and havent seen it drop again. i didnt relpace them until the 232 daggers from fos/hor blood weeper and unsharpened ice razor item listed in next comment, i noobed up the link >.<

Kommentar von 206792

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=50319 https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=50203

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Rondel des Schwarzen Ritters

	Phase 3

Gegenstandsstufe 219
Wird beim Aufheben gebunden

Einhändig	Dolch

235 - 353 Schaden	Tempo 1.80

(163.33 Schaden pro Sekunde)
+46 Beweglichkeit
+35 Ausdauer
Haltbarkeit 75 / 75

Benötigt Stufe 80
Erhöht die Angriffskraft um 1519 nur in Katzen-, Bären-, Terrorbären- und Mondkingestalt.
Anlegen: Erhöht die kritische Trefferwertung um 33.
Anlegen: Erhöht die Trefferwertung um 27.
Anlegen: Erhöht die Angriffskraft um 70.

Verkaufspreis: 21 48 9

Geplündert von: Der Schwarze Ritter

Dropchance: 8.92%

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