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Kommentar von 168123

It will depend on how hard the materials will be obtainable. The stats are downright amazing, the damage output is scary, and for a warrior with Titan's Grip, you have an option for another devastatingly strong 2h mace (assuming a mace, since the mace specialization talent).

Kommentar von 135292

...Suggest you look?

Allows you to equip two-handed axes, maces and swords in one hand.

"one hand" being can be held in either hand, thus, duel wield.

Kommentar von 142435

It's BoE. Blacksmiths might actually be able to make some money from their profession.

Kommentar von Thurnee

"...you have an option for another devastatingly strong 2h mace (assuming a mace, since the mace specialization talent)"

I doubt we'll see many "Dual-2H Mace-Spec" warriors, as you would either attack incredibly slow due to a lack of points in Titan's Grip, or it would never proc due to a lack of points in Mace Specialization. You can't physically have 5 points in both. (Unless you use hacks/are somehow level 84). The game just isn't ready for that many stuns. And then there's Dual-2H Sword-Spec......

Kommentar von 176208

This looks descent for entering level 80 pvp as an e. shaman. I just want to see how it will stand up against the S5 two handed mace.

And if the materials are really as easy as the post above. This will be fairly cheap...

Kommentar von 119048

I'm interested to see if it will still be boe after beta, and if not, will it come in a set like thunder did? Because if thats the case blacksmiths are gonna be making alot, between this and Belt buckle.

Kommentar von 122372

The pic reminds me of the horned crest on Frostmourne :D Also, the mats are really cheap, since Eternal Earth = Primal Earth (BC) and Titanium Ore = Khorium Ore LOL

However, judging from the vast demand for these new materials during the opening and running of wrath...the prices for the raw materials will be pretty high, so miners/BS can really make a lot of money either selling mats or the weapon itself. The massive hit rating makes it a great PvE item as well.

Kommentar von 182416

Now that Titan Grip is only 1 point, and no longer has a speed penalty. 20-51 spec is looking to be the DPS raid spec. Most of the new 2 handers are looking a little fast, but I hope to see a nice 4.0 to MH, making this an AMAZING OH.
Also, incase you havent seen, Rampage now is a 5% crit bonus for all melee in the raid. My warrior sits around 35% crit constant so I will always have it refreshed, making Fury warriors the new Feral Druids. Win Win !

Kommentar von Bubble

im torn between making money from my profession, and giving out such good weapons to anyone...

still waiting for the blacksmith weapons/armor that will have that "wow!" element in them...

Kommentar von Manestone

What is truly great about the Titan Steel pieces is selling them. All of them are boe epics that you can learn simply by talking to a BlackSmithing Trainer. Appearently Blizzard has responded to all the QQ's from BlackSmiths complaining that it cost's the most of any professions to raise and you can't sell anything. Huzzah

Kommentar von Tempyr

This is nice and all... but are blacksmiths not getting any epic 2H swords in WotLK?

Kommentar von 72359

There are no information about 2 handed Axes and Swords, i hope Blizzard will bring them ingame till WotLK :(

Need a sweet axe for my Orc.

Kommentar von 236430

If you are a miner but NOT a blacksmither, you might want to save up bars as you will be able to get your items crafted for a very little fee! Most of the new gear BS can make is BoE wich means having 2 gathering proffessions wont be only to make maximum gold anymore!

(iam afraid those crafting fees will raise to compensate though, as blacksmithers wont be able to do any profit on the mats in those situations)

Kommentar von moomoodeadcow

Is it hammer expert specified?

Kommentar von Anarchy

It's unique-equipped.
Can't dual wield it, bugger :(

Kommentar von 12184

This is an awesome tankingweapon for DK´s. Lots of stamina, lots of strength (AP + parryrating) + a decent amount of hitrating for threatbuilding. Gonna get this when my DK reaches 80 (and 430 in BS ofc).

Kommentar von Kelo70

Total cost on my server (Hellscream-US) was 6200g. Mats are very high priced right now.

Kommentar von 12184

Thank you bkevol and scw55. Thats exactly what I was talking about...this being a great tankingweapon för DK´s. Atm DWtanking wont be even close to 2h-tanking while retaining decent other tanking stats. Thats what Oberscht failed to see.

Kommentar von 96180

This is not simply a good pre-raiding tanking weapon for Death Knights. It's not simply a fast DPS weapon either to lower burst damage.
It's an entry level weapon. It's not perfect. It lacks crit but look at everything else. The signs point to it being something you use before you're into heavy raiding and PvP;

Speed is fast, meaning it won't take full advantage of attacks that aren't normalised.
Lots of hit rating when your gear probably won't have too much, great for all classes that can wield it. Titan's grip needs a lot of hit and Paladins/Death Knights need to be hit capped for optimal performance.
Craftable. Obtainable before you get into any end game content.

It's a bloody good weapon but it's not something to craft after you've got Naxxramas on farm. It's for when you're getting to that stage. That's why it's one of the best things to happen to Blacksmiths.
Edit: Now with the Edge of Ruin about, this isn't the best pre-raid choice anymore. However, a lot of the points do remain standing, plus this is still easily obtainable.

Kommentar von Random771452

there is no Wotlk version of thunder yet, the most I've seen from weaponsmiths has been lvl 78 blue, but doesn't mean there won't be as end-game gameplay starts becoming common place

Kommentar von 175534

Developers have already said that they don't plan on having the equivalent to OP gear, such as Thunder or Frozen Shadoweave. They came to this decision because they felt too many people were leveling professions just to stay ahead of the game. I personally thought that was the reason to work hard at a profession?

On another note, this is a great starter weapon for TG Warriors just starting to raid. +Hit rating is the #1 stat for them until the cap.

Kommentar von Lieto

FYI... The Massacre enchant has no visual effect on this weapon.

Kommentar von d3nyd

As much as I hate for a Death Knight to use maces, this is gonna be the best thing you can get pre-Naxx (and even well into Naxx) for a DPS DK.

Kommentar von fsngnshiekfan

This will now be useful to druids in the next patch so when the BS says a druid bought it before you, the BS is completely sane.

Kommentar von asloversgo

This actually has four undead Ram heads, including the horns, on it. I just noticed today that it had faces.

Kommentar von 130170

in patch 3.0.8 it's going to be a good feral weapon too

Kommentar von 245076

ironanqus was talking about the buyout price that is currently listed on wowhead.

Kommentar von 245076

Also i checked and none of the dks runes have any visual effect on this weapon.

Kommentar von 140598

Should work out to around 2750 feral attack power, in total.

186.5dps - 55 * 14 = 1841FAP base + 248ap from strength, and you get 2088ap. Factor in Predatory Strikes, which is +20% to any attack power on our equipped weapon, and you get 2505ap. Then factor in heart of the wild which is an additional 10% ap, and you get a whopping grand total of 2756ap.

This thing is a monster. We lose a lot of crit dropping some of our other weapons with agility and crit rating, but the synergy with our talents is so nice, it's hard not to consider it one of the best weapons in the game for a PvP or PvE DPS feral.

Kommentar von 70443

This thing is crazy, and let's be honest: It's not even that expensive, given that you farm your own Titansteel, which isn't all that time-consuming.

Kommentar von 295489

For a DPS DK, Warrior or Retribution Paladin, this mace is probably the best pre Naxx.
Although Colossal Skull-Clad Cleaver is a viable choice for all 3 of these class / spec combinations, I much prefer this mace to be hit capped, and as a DK I do not benefit greatly from haste rating, aswell as playing a human character (mace specialization).
Claymore of Ancient Power - 2H Sword
Demise - 2H Mace
Both of these seem viable upgrades from 10 man Naxxramas.

Alternatively, if you cannot afford Titansteel Destroyer, or your just too lazy to farm the mats you should aim for:
Sword of Justice and drop a 16 Strength gem into it, it has a fairly high drop rate.

My links didn't work, great...

Kommentar von 244714

This is a very nice mace, I actually just finished training my weapon skill from 1 to 400 for this Mace. I am TG Fury, and once I heard about this mace, I just knew I had to have it. It's not bad for Arms either, althought an Axe would be better, Maces are easier to come by now. Once you have enough crit that breaks 30% unbuffed, this Mace is very good.

Kommentar von 275028

Something to note: For those players that want to focus on pvp and not/hardly raid this is the premium weapon until they procure arena weapons.

To be honest, after looking a long time i really couldn't find a better weapon that didn't involve me stepping into a raid.

At this point a lot of BSs have this pattern and will craft them for the skill points. I got one today for 50 gold less than the mats were on the AH. For that reason I suggest you just check mats and /2 wtb to see how low you can get it. I even got him to throw in a free stack of sharpening stones :)

Opposingly, if you do plan to raid I'd skip this one unless you have a lot of gold to burn.

Kommentar von remotettl

better colossal mad-skull cleaver. HoL Hc, last boss. pretty high droprate and its awesome!

Kommentar von gostop

Saw this on AH for 1700g. My first instinct was to purchase it for my lvl75 ret to have when she hits 80, but I just wanted to make sure I was getting a good deal.

Came to wowhead and decided to buy it and now its gone already....

moral of the story: buy this if you see it that cheap!

Kommentar von Muse

I had been unable to runeforge this, and I hadn't found any information on why that was, so it was kind of disappointing. I'm not sure if they just haven't fully developed and implemented it or what, so if someone knows, please reply to this. Thanks. :-)

Kommentar von Rolphyle1

great dps axe for warroirs it cost me 1,234 gold on my sever

Kommentar von 249835

yeah! now i can leave the imprint of a rams face on the side of kel'thuzad's!

Kommentar von Dispril

How come that i see that titansteel Destroyer has feral attack and not on different characters. I dont dare to buy this to my ret pala when i see Feral attack on my bankcharacter and not on my pala. What do i do then

Kommentar von 233364

Can anyone confirm whether the self-glow effect on this can or cant be replaced by others like Massacre and Berserker? Thanks a lot!

Kommentar von 254181

Read the patch notes for 3.0.8 All weapons now have feral attack power. BUT you can only see them on your druid. If your bank character is a druid you will see a feral attack on the weapon. If you aren't on the druid you will be looking at it as you always have. Non-druids don't need to worry about seeing a weapon with feral attack power anymore, because they just won't see one now.

Kommentar von 316592

Anyone know what temporary item enchants work for this, such as a weightstone? Adamantite weightstone says the ilevel is too high.

Kommentar von 300749

its on the AH for like 1700g on my server and had one the other say for like 1500 lawl eradar

Kommentar von 317957

For those of you who are confused about the Unique-Equiped detail, it means you cannot have 2 of these items equipped. This applys to Fury Warriors. Essentially, a Fury Warrior can only have one of these, and must fill the other 2h slot with another weapon.

Kommentar von 202640

You don't see it if you have enchanted it with Executioner.

This item's look reallly doesn't fit with it's name. Destroyer, and look at it: It's just a steel square with horns. It's length is also patheticly small. And not to mention that the weapons handle grows in width, which just makes it look ridicilous. In real life, noone - no matter how strong - would have been able to wield it properly...

Kommentar von ZookCloak

This is an ideal entry-level tanking weapon for Dwarf Death Knights. All Dwarves receive +5 Expertise when wielding 1h or 2h maces, thanks to Mace Specialization (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=59224). That's more expertise than any other Alliance race receives from a weapon specialization racial (Humans receive +3 to 1h/2h Maces/Swords & Orcs receive +5 to Axes).

Kommentar von Emmeno

This weapon currently has the highest base strength of any weapon in the game.

Kommentar von 319721

i farmed all my mats myself, used my Cd and bought 7 more for 25g each dirt cheap for a awsome mace :-P

Kommentar von 191235

Even taking into consideration Naxx gear this is one of the 5 or 6 best 2H weapons in the game right now for a DK. The only things that would be better then this would be;

Inevitable Defeat
Death's Bite
Betrayer of Humanity
Armageddon
Black Ice (maybe)

The +strength and +hit on this thing are just too good to pass up. If you have a DK and don't raid then you aren't going to get anything better then this. Although I agree that a mace on a DK just doesn't seem right, that aside, it just doesn't get much better then this. Especially, when you consider how easily attainable this thing is.

Kommentar von 127596

Im a dk freshly dinged 80. Where would you recomend i start farming money for it?

Kommentar von 323269

So to make any of the titansteel products, be it weapons or armor you need only be that rank of a blacksmith? You don't need to be an armorsmith to make the armor or a weaponsmith to make the weapons? Because I saw an armorsmith today with all of them.

Kommentar von 317920

what they should make now is stormherald and the thunders BoE. my dk would be great with that and my BSing os only level 100 :(

Kommentar von 324197

As stated previously, as far as itemization goes this is by far the best PvE 2h mace outside of Naxx for most melee classes that can make use of it. Perhaps more importantly to Paladins, this mace has +124 Strength, making it the highest attack power boost of any weapon in the game so far. Better than Armageddon? Probably not, but if you're a Retribution Paladin you should think twice before replacing it with anything BUT Armageddon.

Kommentar von 324488

I am knew at this so please bare with me, I'm a ret pally with Bsmithing and enchanting as professions. I plan to craft this weapon and add plus +35 agility as an enchantment. I'm thinking +35 agilty would add some crit to this weapon to go along with the incredible strength, hit rating, and stamina. What do you think?

Kommentar von shawarmakriger

Would this be worth the mats if you are an enhancement shaman, aimed for raiding?
Thanks in advance

Kommentar von 87550

Only SOULBOUND items can be runeforged. Acount bounding items can not be runeforged, neither bind when equipped items can unless you equip them.

Kommentar von 263085

Wrong, BoE items can be Runeforged, they just automatically become Soulbound to you. You do NOT need to equip them first.

As for the weapon, you'll be hard pressed to find anything better for a starter raid item and now the mats are quite cheap, Titansteel bars on Draenor are now going for about 100-120g each, its well worth having crafted.

Kommentar von 243044

awesome with https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/items=4&filter=qu=3;na=savage+saronite + on my realm this is only 1000g. cool if u wanna buy

Kommentar von 336981

this is porbly the best starting weapon for a new lvl 80 DK

Kommentar von 326508

as the rest of the titansteel weps this also has 3 stats and mixed pvp/pve utility

Kommentar von 346025

i was wondering how does this mace compare to demise, and which is better for tanking for DK's since parry seems to be the hardest stat to get as a DK , im considering using this instead of demise, any advice?

Kommentar von 346987

For 2-handed dps'ers who have BS, this is a fairly cheap wep to start raids or Hc's. I already had the saronite, eternal earth and water (which are easy to get). The titanium ore x 48 and the eternal fire x 8 costed me 380g. Together with the 2 orbs I paid 80g, this weapon costed me roughly 460g.

Kommentar von 162742

Hmmm....

Arcanite Bar had a cooldown of around 20 hrs in vanilla WoW...

Titansteel has a 20 hr cooldown, so it's pretty much WotLK arcanite...

Arcanite Reaper and this are made from the metals they are named for....

... TITANSTEEL DESTROYER, HOOOOOOOO~~!

Kommentar von shohanu

Dekadez said:
given that you farm your own Titansteel, which isn't all that time-consuming.

Yep not that time consuming...only about 6 1/2 days...

Edit:Smelt Titansteel, this is a 20 hour cooldown. 8x20=160/24=6.666...which is close to 6 1/2 days

Kommentar von Harakiri23

Want to save yourself the approx 1000g for this weapon? Do the argent tournament quests which you can start at lvl77 and get this

https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=45074#comments

takes about 10 days doing dailies to receive this (you get 10 seals once, and then 5 every day after completing the chain)

Kommentar von 320146

The mace version of Frostmourne=P

Kommentar von Rolphyle1

8xSaronite bar
8xTitansteel bar
2xFrozen orb

Kommentar von 228961

Welfaresteel destroyer moar lyk

Kommentar von 384271

If u have the gold, or materials, definately get this weapon, its easy if u can afford it, and it is definately worth its gold :)

Kommentar von 365421

I had https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=44249, thinking that was good.
I switched to Titansteel, and my DPS skyrocketed. It's amazing. Get it.

Kommentar von 242304

Can Warrior's Dual Wield this with Titans Grip?

Kommentar von 337191

Is it worth getting this if you just hit 80? Or just wait till u get something better in heriocs?

Kommentar von 413068

EDIT -

Titansteel Destroyer's mats are now:

8 Titansteel Bars
8 Saronite Bars
2 Frozen Orbs

Kommentar von 149771

New returning Retribution Paladin with a question:

Is this weapon a good starting 80 weapon for Ret? I'm planning on grabbing Blacksmithing because the defensive gear would work out really well for my Prot side, but I'm looking for a decent weapon for my Ret side in PvP as well. Is this worth the work?

Kommentar von 335030

This is definately a great weapon that won't be replaced until naxx.

Kommentar von Marouka

One of two very good Pre-Raiding 2 Hand weapons. Unfortunately, as an Arms Warrior, it is not worth getting because well... it's not an axe and does not provide you with near as good DPS as the Colossal Skull-Clad Cleaver (https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=37852). So do not bother making this and run H-HoL until you get the Axe.

For a Titan's Grip Warrior however, this plus a Colossal Skull-Clad Cleaver would make an excellent combo. The addition of the Hit on this and the crit on the Cleaver dominates. Do it!

Sorry, my expertise is specified in Warriors so no comments on the other just as important 2hDPSers :)

Kommentar von psytropic21

this thing is so great for a dk dps or tank for a while

Kommentar von 300190

this mace is a very good weapon for classes that can use 2H weapons like a fury warrior or a blood DK and a Ret. Pally. so really, it is a very good dps weapon cause of the +124 str.. So whoever uses this mace with a dps spec. could be one killing machine

Kommentar von WebGremlin

8x
-> 16x

8x
-> 24x
-------> IF TRANSMUTING: 192x = 384x , ELSE IF SMELTING: 48x
-> 8x
-> 8x
-> 8x

2x

Kommentar von 404088

the best crafted weapon ever for a Retri PALADIN, or Warrio (actually its good for DKs and Feral droods too xD)

Kommentar von Hamaas

So this is a DPS or Tanking wep for a DK? Answer fast!

Kommentar von 417796

When do i upgrade from this wep for a Ret pally?
Do i get a better 2h from a hc? Naxx 10? Or just Ulduar 25?

Kommentar von toastmaster7727

Statistically, 118% of all Death Knights have this weapon in their inventory.

Kommentar von durok

Actually a really nice tank mace for Death Knights:

-124 Strength - Forceful Deflection - Increases your Parry Rating by 25% of your total Strength. So this will be a +31 Parry.
-105 Stamina - Frost Presence - This presence will increase the Death Knight's Stamina by 6%, so that will be an extra 6.3 stamina.
- Equip: Improves hit rating by 54 (1.65% @ L80).
- Enchantment: Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle - This will give you 25 extra Defense and also 2% stamina.

So:
Parry: +31
Stamina: 105 + An extra 2% of the Rune and 6% of the Frost Presence
Hit Rating: 54

Now, let's see this weapon: Hammer of Quiet Mourning, it's the most used beginning tank weapon as far as I know. It will give you 19 defense, and it's a one-hander so you can't use Stoneskin Gargoyle on it, so that will be -6 defense, and the Stoneskin Gargoyle is defense rating.

Advice:
Buy the Titansteel Destroyer, and then farm Trial of the Champion 5HC, for the Peacekeeper Blade to drop.
Farm for 2x this weapon, and then respec to Frost Duel Wield Tank with talents such as Threat of Thassarian and Nerves of Cold Steel.
EDIT: There's only one problem: if you never handled a Mace before as Death Knight, you have to train it from skill 1.....

Kommentar von 490939

today 11/29/09 i logged on to my wow and found i do not have any weapons.the above titan steel destroyer and the dirkee superstructure.i did tell warcraft about this and hope it's a glitch in their system.but noticing those two items for sale is a bit curious to me.i just need to somehow get my weapons back,i also enchanted them.taureg

Kommentar von 308314

Now, let's see this weapon: Hammer of Quiet Mourning, it's the most used beginning tank weapon as far as I know. It will give you 19 defense, and it's a one-hander so you can't use Stoneskin Gargoyle on it, so that will be -6 defense, and the Stoneskin Gargoyle is defense rating.

Actually, Stoneskin Gargoyle is defense skill rather than defense rating. Switching from a two hander with SG on it to a pair of those hammers would lose you 13.02 defense skill.

Also, DW tanking is seriously not reccomended until you have very strong gear with alot of expertise on it, and even then you would use a slow dps weapon main hand and either a tank weapon or another slow dps weapon in the OH. Never two fast tank weapons though.

Kommentar von Lindentree

Arms warriors, while this is not the best weapon for you (a given - it's a mace), it's better than you might think.

New 80s in arms have two major challenges. The first, shared by all plate dps, is how to get up to the frigging hit cap and expertise soft cap. Obviously the hit on the TTSD helps a lot with that. The second challenge is how to generate a steady stream of rage. Arms DPS excels in and even assumes an infinite rage environment, but until you have high enough AP you're going to find yourself rage starved sometimes, for example after a lucky chain of sudden death procs. The strength on this mace helps a lot, especially if you're not specced into Improved Slam yet (still using Weapon Mastery to hit the expertise soft cap).

You'd have to be nuts to take this over the Edge of Ruin, but compared to, say, the Edge of Oblivion, you're probably better off with the TTSD.

Kommentar von 571682

Because of the latest patch, Titansteel no longer has a cooldown. The overall price to make this item has gone down. The most expensive item being the titansteel. On my relm, its gone from 1k g to around 100g. Because of the low mat cost, i'd suggest getting this weapon especially if you don't have time or skill to raid.

Kommentar von 111622

The Mastercraft Kalu'ak Fishing Pole grants the same gearscore as this.

FAIL

Kommentar von 572056

Note: there is no Titansteel cool down so you will be able to make this weapon a lot faster now too.

Kommentar von Allakhazam

In 3.0.8 this item has the additional stat of 1843 feral Attack Power for Druids. This stat is visible only to Druids and is generated based on the DPS of the item. In 3.0.8 all weapons have feral AP like this.

Kommentar von augustchild

When are you able to Dual Wield these? I specifically remember in Retail Wrath that there was a Warrior that had these dual Wielded that prompted me to create a warrior for that specific reason. But now in Classic Wrath I can only equip one of these and have to use another weapon to my offhand?

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