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Kommentar von alex692

This is a very good example for how the stats on a two-hand will become for a DK tank. Its really unusual though, having a twohand with def. rating! :-S This weapon also has very good stats and im very excited to see how the stronger tanking two-hands will be!

Kommentar von Pirwzy

You can get the defense cap without having any on the weapon. The weapon need only be high Stamina and anything else is just bonus. For DK tanks, I mean.

Kommentar von 146010

It's actually very easy to achieve 540 defence without using defence from a weapon. The crafted blues that are available are all quite excellent, and serve as a great stepping stone to get started. You don't need this weapon, though it can be an option if for some reason, you don't have the means to aquire said crafted blues. It's certainly not a *bad* choice, but the overall threat output of the weapon might be a bit lower than you'd like.

Kommentar von 100107

It's really too bad that this is the only 2H weapon with defense on it (minus the "of defense" BoE greens) outside of a raid that a DK can equip. Offhand, I'm not aware of anything else. I realize that it wouldn't be popular with anyone but DKs, however... it stands to reason that Blizzard could add some craftable weapons like this, and faction rep rewards, and badge rewards, and stone shard rewards... there's a lot of room here, and it's just not getting taken advantage of.

I've only been rocking this thing for a day, and I've already gotten one guy in a PUG asking me why my weapon was green (we were in a heroic). All things being equal, that's a fair question. Because itemization is so poor for DK tanking weapons, I have to explain every time. It looks like a generic WotLK axe.

Kommentar von 154239

In patch 3.0.8, they will be adding Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle that grants 25 Defense and +2% Stamina to 2H weapons. Granted, it doesn't help defense as much as weapons like this, but it does make the choice of tanking weapons a simpler one.

I've reached the defense cap without having to worry about weapon, so the rune will really just give me some flexibility with upgrades...able to give up a slight bit of defense but still gain the greater upgrade of armor/stam/etc.

The addition of this new rune also tells me that they are realizing they have left DK tanks in a tough situation with the way tanking weapons are itemized. At least they're addressing it, and this is as good as any way to address it I guess.

Malushka
80 DK - Doomhammer

Kommentar von 73624

I'm currently using this weapon on my Death Knight (http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Agamaggan&n=Nhuran) and after a couple weeks of farming heroics and some badge/crafted loot I'm ready to upgrade from this weapon happily. My parry is high, dodge is high, health is also high.

I would consider using this weapon over any other two-handed weapon before you get a good amount of health, parry and dodge (In that order, just in case) because it gives flexibility. Using this weapon I have Main Tanked Obsidian 25 man, Naxx 10 Man (Arachnid Quarter) and the 10 man Wintergrasp raid with no threat problems and the same goes for heroics, I'm roughly at 2k-3k threat per second and its turned out fine so far.

Just because it lacks purple pixels doesn't mean its not a good weapon, and it certainly helps us Death Knight tanks improve our gear without gimping ourselves. (And back tracking on gear as was mentioned earlier in the comments.)

Note: Thinking of upgrading to a Titan Steel Destroyer now. Unless Demise drops tomorrow!

Oh and in the process of obtaining this weapon you gain a lot of Argent Crusade reputation and Ebon Blade. So in my opinion its defiantly worth the time!

Oh and @ Imahaldin

I would never take that new rune over 4% parry. It would be ludicrous to make that trade off! defense can be easily gained by items, 4% parry on the other hand is a *lot*

Kommentar von 281735

I don't think anyone else has picked up on this, but it seems pretty obvious that this weapon is designed for DK tanks, and the name could refer to a popular DK tanking spec - deep frost, with some points in blood, e.g. bloodstained ice.

Kommentar von Zekton

Just wanted to point out that this is the only 2-handed weapon with Defense that's decent enough to use as a DK tank. So think twice before vendoring it.

Kommentar von 130619

This can be useful for a fury warrior for doing group quests and other casual tanking.

Kommentar von 157377

Lol, I can see 2 saying, that this is the only 2h in game with defence fating, but that isn't true. https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/items=2&filter=sl=17;cr=42;crs=1;crv=0 = 7 other 2 hands with defence rating, but not worth for DK tanking tho. Highest lvl requirement for them is lvl 57 on 2 of them, which comes for Dire Maul, else there is https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=29171 for lvl 70. The rest is lowbie stuff.

Kommentar von 331656

I love the stamina on Stoneskin Gargoyle, but at realistic gear levels, sword shattering is going to be providing more stat points.

Before diminishing returns sword shattering provides the equivalent of 200 parry rating.

Gargoyle provides the equivalent of 120 defense rating, and 26 stat points of stamina, assuming a very generous 2000 raid buffed stamina. Keep in mind, gargoyle increases stamina, not health, a raid buffed tank will have 10-15,000 HP from sources other than stamina, stoneskin gargoyle does nothing to increase that number.

Worst case scenario (just barely defense capped without gargoyle), your looking at 200 stat points vs. 146. Best case scenario (high levels of dodge and parry rating), sword shattering is gonna get even better, as the 4% parry isn't going to suffer from diminishing returns, while the dodge and parry from gargoyle are.

As for this axe, it rocks. Honestly, this is a halfway decent DPS weapon for paladins and DKs: the STR and speed here bring it pretty much even with the ever popular haste/ArP/3.4 speed northrend two handers.

Dual Wield is just a no-go for me due to parries and so much EXP and HIT needed that it heavily outweighs the stats gained from 2x1H

Just so you know, the only thing that effects the dodge and parry cap is mob level, dual wielding has no effect, and the same goes for the special hit cap, while dual wielding raises the white cap to 27%, the yellow cap stays at 9%.

Edit: Clarifying Stamina vs HP

Kommentar von breuger

Although this is true.
Think about it this way, 2x weapons = 2x the swings = 2x the chance for one attack to be parried/dodged.
Threat generation gets gimped too, since so many DK attacks do % of weapon dmg + dmg.

Kommentar von 321140

It gives exactly 10 defense at lvl 80.

Kommentar von Pinkitteh

This is my favourite weapon.

I love how everyone loses their minds when they find out I'm using a $#!+y quest green to clear raid content that they can't do in full epics and much higher gearscore.

It is proof that gearscore means nothing if you are not Def capped.

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