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Kommentar von cutterx2202

Considering this is one of the few choices for arms warriors before 80, you'd better believe they're gonna be fighting hunters for this pretty fiercely.

Edit: For arms, there's basically only this and De-Raged Waraxe before 80, whereas there are many more choices for hunters along the way. I agree this is excellent for either, but please understand if this is an upgrade for an arms warrior, it's a lot harder to find something else for them before 80.

Kommentar von Drague

I would say that this would be a good tanking 2-hand axe for deaths knights. The high amount of agility and stamina gives a good amount of ap, armor and hp. And it's good haste rating and ap bonuses, makes the deaths knights skill to hold aggro much better. I gotta get this one to my death knight, when hits lvl 80 one day :)

Kommentar von 255394

And it's good haste rating

haste is horrible for DK's, the hit on the de-raged waraxe is much more useful and it even comes with more stam.

Kommentar von srhabits

haste is horrible for DK's

so Unholy Presence is bad for a Death Knight? I think not, maybe not in abundance but it surely isn't horrible.

Kommentar von doombringer

Great for hunters as a stat-stick if a melee isn't going to pick it up. Were this strength, there'd be no question... warriors/DKs only... but the agility brings it right into hunter territory.

It lacks the crit rating from Icier Barbed Spear, but loads up on attack power and haste. Not bad at all.

Kommentar von Sunfury

As a hunter you should go with 2 of this.
I use this on my hunter with this enchant.
It could also do with this.
The cheapest enchant is the first one.

Kommentar von 260189

On my hunter, I have 2 of https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=41182 and they both have https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=44633. Giving me a grand total of 140 agility. Which is pretty good...

Kommentar von 267485

Alright, let me explain something regarding this versus Savage Cobalt Slicer x 2, with any enchant for a Hunter.

SCS x 2 + 26 Agi enchants (x2)
+140 Agility
+120 Attack Power
+58 Hit
Grand total: 260 Attack Power, +58 hit

SCS x 2 + 30 Int enchants (x2) - For Marksmen Hunters with 100% Int - AP Conversion.
+88 Agility
+60 Int
+120 Attack Power + (60 Attack Power) = 180 Attack power.
+58 Hit
Grand Total: 268 Attack Power, + 60 Int for 260 Additional Mana (also higher mana feedback from viper aspect) and +58 hit.

Wyrmclaw Battleaxe
+69 Agility
+60 Stamina (at most about 18 AP with Hunter vs. Wild talent)
+50 Haste
+138 Attack Power

And just for kicks, lets say with best enchant for Attack Power...
Enchant +110 Attack Power
Grant total: 363 Attack Power, +50 haste.

(note: Not taking into account crit chance awarded from agility)

Now bottom line about those weapons is there is MUCH BETTER out there than SCS for damage, or for crit, or for armor penetration, or for haste rating. Hit is the least important hunter stat out there, and should not be coveted (as gems / enchants make +hit focus wasted, and heroic 197 +hit cap is VERY easily attainable).

This weapon IS a hunter upgrade from other comparable loot out there, that has armor penetration or crit chance, due to the value of these stats compared to any other bonus. Haste is very easily capped out as well though, thanks to Clobal Cooldown. That means the 3.50 speed with +haste means a lot more to a class that swing's this axe for it's dps then one that just uses it for stats. Hunters should pass on this if there is a warrior, death knight, or paladin in the group that this is an upgrade for. I'm a Hunter as well, come on fellow hunters, we know there is much nicer items for us than this melee axe.

Icier Barbed Spear for example:

+62 Agility
+52 Stamina (about +16 AP with Hunter vs. Wild)
+61 Crit strike rating
+88 Attack Power
(with same +110 Attack Power enchant)
Grand Total: +276 Attack Power, +61 Crit chance (about 2%) and some comfy HP. That Crit is much more serviceable than some additional Haste. Let the DK's and Warriors be happy about their axe. If they don't want it, enjoy your silly item.

Kommentar von 261582

What is better for a dk this orhttps://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=41816 ?

Kommentar von 288490

Is this the best weapon for a 79 arms warrior twink?

Kommentar von Death087

One cannot get the De-raged Waraxe before Level 75, since that is the earliest that you can actually do the quests for the fights, and get the axe as a reward. My Death Knight progressed from Axe of Frozen Death, to Ingvar's Monolithic Cleaver, and got the De-raged Waraxe at 76; is now at 78. I am sure the De-raged Waraxe will be useful for a while; have yet to see an upgrade drop, or be rewarded.

Yes, the Hit rating is crazy on Ignvar's axe, but that's better at low-70's (levels). At 78, there are several other items (and ones with sockets), which - together with the De-raged Waraxe - give more Hit Rating, and - unlike Ingvar's - more STR and STA. STA is always useful, and STR gives bonuses to Dodge and AP, making it preferable for tanks (dodge) and DpS-ers (AP)

The Wyrmclaw Battleaxe has AGI which grants bonuses to Parry and Crit, the former being useful to tanks, and the later to DpS-ers. However, I believe that STR is more useful...and I have (Improved) Icy Talons and Blade Barrier.

Personally, I'd go with the De-raged Waraxe, as a level 78 Death Knight...and I both tank and DpS. I use the De-raged Waraxe with Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle. My spec, if you're interested: https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/talent=j0EMoZGgxthezohR0sst I am not delighted at my DpS output, or at my tanking skills, but have yet - touch wood - to receive a serious complaint from a good player. <Yes, I disregard feedback from that warlock who had a DpS of 700-800 in UP, to my 1k+ (I was tanking) and defended the druid who was stealing aggro from me, even when I used my "taunts". :P> I am more of a tank-with-dps, than a tank-with-defense-dodge-and-parry...and my defense rating does contribute to my parry and dodge.

This is just me...and I will confess, I have little experience, and am quite open to feedback from someone who knows more, (is) better. :-)

Kommentar von 313143

If you believe hit is the least valuable stat you might want to do some poking around the EJ forums.....

This.

Kwitch, call me when you miss Kill Shot.

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