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Kommentar von kronpas

Wrong. ilvl 226 gears are equal to Heroic malygos and KT gears. Normal Ulduar gear ilvl varies from 219 - 226. This achivement encourages ppl to use Ulduar 10 gear, NOT just naxx 25 gear :)

Kommentar von 252897

10-man Ulduar: 219 (Few weapons are 226)
10-man Ulduar (Hard): 226
25-man Ulduar: 226 (Weapons 232)
25-man Ulduar (Hard): 239

Basically its all loot from 10-man (Excluding possible Algalon higher item level ones) and non-weapon loot from 25-man normal modes (Again, no Algalon) that you can use for this one.

Edit: I wonder why am I getting downrated for posting correct information...durr.
Editv2: Seems like Yogg drops 226 iLevel stuff on normal mode...

Kommentar von Zomglazerpew

If you primarily run 25 player instances and want to get this achievement/title, just hang on to your Kel'thuzad weapons and regular Ulduar 25 boss kills and you should be good to go.

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MMO-Champion 25 man Gear
MMO-Champion 10 man Gear

If you go to the links below the Source and look at the Armor/Trinkets from 25 man, a good majority are ilvl 226. Most of the 10 man loot is ilvl 219 with an exception of the Hard Mode stuff which is 226. So if you want this achievement, either get 25 man loot from regular boss kills or your 10 man loot from hardmodes and regular.

Kommentar von 164994

For clarification, does this mean lvl 226 items CAN be used? So will a fury warrior be able to use betrayers, or will he be forced to downgrade into 10 man weapons?

Kommentar von Syladind

This looks like a hard achievement. Considering that you are only allowed a one hour wipefest on Algalon, and even the best guilds will want the best gear to just learn something about this guy, only the MOST experienced guilds will ever try this.

Kommentar von Harson

Congratulations to "Gentlemens Club" of Korgath-US for getting this achievement.

World First.

June 6 2009

Kommentar von Tempri

This achievement states you cannot have gear which is higher than 226. That means you can use full tier 8.5 etc. apart from weapons which would be mostly 232. It has now been reworded so people may understand it easier.

Kommentar von 348305

This achievement is very poorly worded. I got this achievement tonight, using an ilvl 232 weapon and wand. Due to the way 10man hardmode loot works, you can still get this achievement using ilvl 232 weapons, offhands, wands, ranged weapons, sigils, idols, etc etc. You cannot be wearing any armor, or using any trinkets higher than 226.

Kommentar von 273013

This should be a "Feat of Strength" Achievement imo..

Kommentar von 179893

Killing a boss with appropriate gear instead of going back with 25 man or Trial of the Crusader gear? That's not a feat of strength, it's killing the boss how you should be.

Kommentar von Aurelius

Just a warning to anyone attempting this achievement.

Any loot from Trial of the Crusader 10 Man will automatically disqualify you from getting this achievement, even though the items are iLevel 232.

Kommentar von 224110

Does anyone know if the 10man loot from Onyxia counts against this achievement? I got Gleaming Quel'serrar last night and wasn't sure if I could use it due to ToC gear not being allowed.

Edit: Our 10man group just did this and I did end up using this sword. I can confirm that it doesn't matter where the gear comes from as long as it meets the ilvl requirements. The weapon/offhand/ranged slots can be 232 or lower. The rest of your gear must be 226 or lower.

Kommentar von 488587

Just did this. I can confirm that you are allowed:

1) Item Level 232 weapons from ToC 10
2) Item Level 226 items from Ulduar 25 and Naxx
3) Tanked with Item Level 232 Weapon, Shield, and Gun

Of note: if you ask a GM, they might tell me otherwise. The GM I spoke to told me that 232 weapons from ToC 10 and Onyxia 10 were not allowed, which is WRONG. Don't trust the GMs on this one, just follow the basic rule of 226 on every slot with 232 allowed on weapon and ranged slots.

Kommentar von 104412

Possibly not the smartest thing to remark that people who did this achievement "outgeared" it:

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12166327246&sid=1

What Mniangel said was ''lol, noob?. Flexing a title that you have clearly outgeared, haha''.

Followed with a ''You are not very bright are you?''. And multiple whispers from Fallen Legion members stating the fact that Mniangel, was a pure failure in both reading and thinking.

Kommentar von Elegant996

This should be a feat by now. I am not saying remove this achievement, but I am saying trying to complete all of the achievements makes this one really hard compared to others because of the downgrade of gear. If this achievement is left as it is; come Cataclsym this would be something you would not find a group for. Letting it be a feat of strength would be much more fitting.

Kommentar von zverushka

2 or 3 heals need?

Kommentar von Quaeras

Are epic gems okay?

Kommentar von 93865

General Advice:

Composition
Tanking is balanced in favor of prot paladins, followed by warriors, because of their many cooldowns and ability to block (Algalon has a very fast attack speed and dual-wields).

DPS is balanced in favor of ranged. You will need at least two ranged to kill the Collapsing Stars; stacking melee will cause problems as Cosmic Smash will force them to move continuously, as it targets individual players. At the gear level required by this achievement, the enrage timer is a serious consideration. While any composition is viable, you will want to choose a setup in which you have mutually synergized DPS.

I recommend a diverse healer comp. A holy paladin is particularly strong on this encounter.

Gearing
Helm: T8.5 (purchasable with badges)
Neck: Conquest Neck, or Malygos-25 quest reward (quest starter drops off Sapphiron-25)
Shoulders: T8.5 (recommended for offpieces if you can't get them from Yogg-25 - the only source for T8.5 shoulders)
Cloak: Valor cloak
Chest: T8.5 (purchasable with badges)
Wrist: 213 Valor bracers, or bracers from H ToC-5 / Regular ICC-5
Gloves: T8.5
Waist: Ulduar crafted belts
Legs: Usually the best offpiece for most classes. Saronite Plated Legguards are most strong for tanks. KT-25 and Malygos-25 drop excellent pants for many classes. Other classes can find options off OS10/25+3, and from normal Ulduar.
Hooves: Ulduar crafted hoof guards
Rings: Valor badge rings for all classes. H ToC-5 and ICC-5 provide options for other classes.
Trinkets:
All tanks should use Black Heart and either Heart of Iron, Royal Seal of King Llane, the Monarch Crab, or Essence of Gossamer. Defender's Code is also quite good.

All melee should use Greatness card. Fury of the Five Flights and Dark Matter are good options for the other slot.

All casters should use Illustration of the Dragon Soul and Eye of the Broodmother. Scale of Fates is also quite good.

Pandora's Plea and Darkmoon Card: Greatness are good healer trinkets.

Kommentar von 320573

Just did the achievement 2night. I would call this achievement really hard for a few main reasons

1)Its hard to find 10 people with the correct gear/ 10 people who want to collect some gear
2) The tight enrage timer (got 2 secs left on enrage)
3)Need to have a really good raid composition
4)People getting online to actually kill him (was the hardest part for us)

The raid composition was:
Tanks: 2x warriors. While fully buffed they had 42-46k hp each
Dps: shadow priest (guy who got the big bangs)
Hunter (he soloed the stars. Had huge experience of doing it so he could solo them)
mage (frostfire spec given that ulduar gear isnt that good for any other specs,= useless spirit)
Moonkin
Warlock (affliction spec. Was the guy who did the most dps)
Healers: Paladin (cant be done without one. was the main tank healer)
Shaman (Only healing the tanks using healing waves/earth shields)
Resto druid (this was me. I solo healed the raid during the whole fight and assisted on the tanks with hots+swiftmends)

During the fight the tanks will get HUGE amounts of dmg. That was one of the main reasons that would wipe us. Apart from that, You could wipe to small players mistakes, like not moving during cosmic smash etc.
The only usefull thing i could say about the fight is the dps meters:
1)Warlock 5400 dps
2)shadow priest 5100
3)mage 4200
4)boomkin 3700
5)hunter 3300

We had 2 seconds left on enrage. So aproximatelly this should be your average dps when you try to kill it.

Hope you good luck with it:) Really a fun fight to do+ a real challenge compared to what wotlk gives to you

Kommentar von Onyxiaking

5 dps
3 healers
2 tanks

Health: 8123300
Time: 360 seconds
Total raid DPS Req: 22564.72
Individual dps: 4512.94

quick calc for those who cba to do it theirselves :)

Kommentar von Veriloquus

I got it last night, and I may add that the heirloom weapons are allowed. Great fight by the way!

Kommentar von Elysianfield

Wrath Classic: Does anyone have any information/data/experience regarding how this achievement is earned with the new item level changes? Has anyone earned this achievement while equipped with Ulduar 10 HM gear (245 weapon or 239 armor/jewelry)?

Kommentar von ShadowTim7

Can anyone confirm if the iLvl 245 gear from the 10 player ToGC/vendors work towards this achievement?

Kommentar von dfordeathmaggy

2023 Requirements
Weapons / Offhand Max iLvL 245
Gear Max iLvL 239

Confirmed

Doesn't matter where you get the pieces from, the achive was put in the game before ToC was released
therefor it says no higher then ULDUAR iLvL pieces..

The achivement is iLvL restricted, not from where the Gear or Weapons are from.

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Herold der Titanen

Bezwingt Algalon den Beobachter im 10-Spieler-Modus, ohne dass die Schlachtzugsmitglieder Ausrüstungsteile tragen, deren Gegenstandsstufe höher ist als die in 10-Spieler-Ulduar verfügbare.

Herold der Titanen

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