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Kommentar von 50728

There seems to be a small margin of around 1-2 quests per zone in Outland. In the old Azeroth it is much harder to track, since there have been some events such as the scourge invasion, and there are a lot of racial or class-specific quests there, but I've pretty much completed the Lorekeeper of Eastern Kingdoms and I'd say you have very small margin. I could hardly find a single NPC in Eastern Kingdomswith a (non-repeatable) quest for me, even computing raid quests and other events such as said scourge invasion.

EDIT: Confirmed, the repeatable quests never count, unless the first time is an specific quest per-se (for example, "Bring me whatever stuff" and "More stuff", only the 1st one would count). Instance quests count for their continent. Quests count in the continent you have completed them. Eg: Guy in Tanaris sends you to pick some stuff in Maraudon and you have to complete the quest in Booty Bay, then it is an Eastern Kingdoms quest. Anyway, Blizzard should realy have sub achievements by region in Azeroth too, since it is very difficult to track where is the quests you're missing.

Quests count no matter how little they are. Those "talk to the guy next to me" and "then speak to the guy again" quests are heaven.

NEVER try to do this achievement if you don't get fun questing without a direct reward. It can be either really funny or utterly boring depending in whether you like it or not. Sounds dumb, but it is the most important thing to have in mind before even considering the Loremaster title. Hope that helped.

PD: That was as a gnome mage, don't know if other class/race combos are easier, like draeneii or classes with long epic quest-chains, but certainly my combination is quite hard, very specially in Kalimdor.

Kommentar von Madinauzi

I've found that if you would like a head start on this achievement before next patch (3.0.2 - when low level quest tracking is implemented) then it is a good idea to do these things:

- Use the WoWHead maps. They show bullet points on a map for all questgiver locations in that zone.
- Group with low level people. I know, they can waste some time. BUT, they can also share quests that you may have missed. By doing this I completed an additional 4 or so quests in Redridge and a least 10 in Westfall, very helpful little suckers!
- Double check the questgiving NPC's shown on the wowhead maps multiple times after completing quests. Sometimes they dont automatically give you the next part, or completing a quest from another NPC will allow this NPC to give you a quest.

I hope this has helped if you are looking for a head start on your Loremaster Title! Sorry for any typos and/or spelling errors.

EDIT: dont waste cloth going after the ambassador title if you are after this title as well. I found that i got exalted with Stormwind, Ironforge and Darnassus and revered with Gnomeregan, while getting exalted with my own faction (Exodar).

Kommentar von 212003

can't belive not worth while for you guys... Loremaster's Colors!

Kommentar von 54016

Loremaster's Colors

Kommentar von Mordrag

Can anyone confirm that does this quest include some of the quests that require you to kill raid bosses or the quest chain for chamion of the naaru, or what about quests inside kara or even from the scourge invasion?

Update: Okay so far I think this quest only counts the general quests of the zones, not includeing group, or raid quests, instances, etc.

I've also found out that some quests might start in different locations, some of the terokkar forest quests start in shattath

(don't quote me on that, Im still testing it out)

Kommentar von Lachesis

Also while working towards this achievement, you'd be working towards not only your Ambassador title, but your albino drake for your 50 mounts as well. Since you require being exalted with your neighboring cities to get their mounts, doing the quests would be a more beneficial way of obtaining rep and working towards more than one goal at the same time in the game. Several achievements are designed to reward the painstaking manner in which some people completed WoW content over the years it has been live, so no need to grind for cloth for that rep for the mounts if you're going to work at this too. Good luck to anyone trying for this achievement, it looks like a painstaking one to complete.

Kommentar von Batleth

Is there anyway to ascertain how many quests you've already done? Or do you just have to wing it, keep doing quests, and hope to one day see the "ding"?

8-)

Edit: Nevermind! I forgot about the quest tracker being implemented...lol

Kommentar von qhiiyr

Be sure to switch your tracking buff to "Low Level Quests" so you can see the questgivers on your minimap.

Kommentar von jubs916

They Now have a Low level quest tracker thingy on that minimap button, so just throw that on so you can see whos got a quest for ya if your doing this achievement : P

Kommentar von 82795

Does this achievement display as, using my name as an example....

Deminir, The Loremaster or Loremaster Deminir?

Kommentar von Smaragd

As a Night Elf you'll recieve the following letter upon completion

From: Tyrande Whisperwind
Subject: Greetings from Darnassus

Your accomplishments have been profound and far-reaching. Azeroth, with all of the recent turmoil, benefits greatly from those who seek to rid the land of evil.

Only those who take the time to know our lands understand the sacrifices of the fallen and the valor of our heroes. You are one such hero. Hopefully, you will recant the tales of your adventures for years to come.

On behalf of the Alliance, I thank you, Loremaster.

Attachments: Loremaster's Colors

I reckon that it will be the same for all of the Alliance, but sent from your respective leaders. Good luck in seeking this one out! It's a great achievement!

Kommentar von dinnerbone

The total amount of quests you will need to complete for this achievement is 2843. That's 875 quests in Northrend, 568 quests in Outland, 700 in Eastern Kingdoms and 700 in Kalimdor.

Edit: Updated, the amount of quests in Kalimdor was reduced from 730 to 700.

Kommentar von 156233

So now i got a question. Is this achievement soloable or do you need to do loads of raid quests ?

Kommentar von Speechless

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Did NOT do any of the AQ scepter quests.
I DID do T0.5 armor upgrade quest chain < Not needed but 5 of them count for Kalimdor
I DID do ONE of the centaur chains in Desolace and dont forget BOTH of the escort quests there aswell

These might help:
Both - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/npc=8420
Alliance - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=5179
Alliance - https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/quest=5713
Alliance - Be sure to check ALL of the Draenei starting zone. I thought i had completed all the quests there, went back to do a couple "This item begins a quest" and found a few more " ! " quests.
Ill try to post more links soon. Good luck to everyone trying to get this before the patch.

Kommentar von 199994

24/11/2008 completed

I'm a Scarab Lord, so I did the whole quest chain including the Scepter of the Shifting Sands.

But: Eventually I had like ~25 quests that I haven't done at Loremaster of Kalimdor; I had printed out a "easy to miss quest" list, thanks to the helpful users here.

The rest (Outland, Kingdom, Northrend) is also very easy. And Loremaster of Kalimdor is getting nerfed to 700 from 730, so there isn't any problem to get this achievement if you really want it.

Kommentar von 295727

As a BE Paladin i got my letter from Cairne:

News of your accomplishments has traveled far.
The winds of turmoil howl through our lands.
Those who stand to challenge evil are our only hope.

Only those who listen to the winds understand the debts our fallen heroes have paid to protect our people.
May a hero such as yourself live long to tell the tales of your adventures.
For only then will we remenber just how much we have to be thankful for.

Our appreciation runs deep. Loremaster.
For the Horde!

Cairne Bloodhoof

Kalimdor surely is the hardest part of this achievement. My tip is read the forum, it helped me a lot to find what I have missed.

Kommentar von 230008

i would recommend posting that comment on the horde loremaster achievement not the alliance one

Kommentar von SeanDamnit

For anyone that's wants to try this, I recommend the addon EveryQuest. This will give you a list of all quests in a zone and mark off what you've completed.

Of course, it won't know that you've completed any quests before installing it, but it still is very useful in a zone you never quested in before.

Kommentar von 242498

Rember this isn't "All" quests, the questes are listed, by doing all the quests listed on Achievement. You get a title "Loremaster ****".

Kommentar von Hartge

I've only read(and posted in) the Alliance version for LM of Kalimdor, but it is all very helpful in getting this achievement done, even though now it is extremely easy compared to post patch.

At the time of completing this, I had just under 3800 quests complete, so if you played Vanilla Wow and Kalimdor is your last place, I am sure you will have The Seeker title by then.

Kommentar von 315117

Pushed myself over the limit for Eastern Kingdoms by handing in cloth - even at exalted with whichever faction, the quests to donate still count as a quest. An easy 12 quests there for EK.
Hope that helps.

Kommentar von molliedollie

FYI- the initial cloth turnins do count towards this achievement. The first runecloth turnin will count, but the subsequent turnins do not.

Having said that however, I would consider saving those quests for the end, those last 20 or so quests for each continent can be kind of tricky to track down.

Kommentar von 300012

After 3.0.8 many (if not: all) instance-quests that previously did not give credit, now give credit. I didn't come across any instance-quests that didn't count towards Loremaster (EK of Kalimdor) since patch 3.0.8. Tested with quests for a lot of instances. Makes our lives a lot easier.

Kommentar von 57943

The minimum amount of quests needed for this Achievement is 2843, 875 in Northrend, 568 in Outland and 700 each in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms. It appears that there is quite a large margin to the amount of available quests since we know for a fact that the Seeker is achievable. Happy Hunting!

Kommentar von 323093

Real Loremasters don't need guides for this, they write guides for this.

Kommentar von malmern

Shame you can't have two titles at once ^^

Imagine <Loremaster Malmern Jenkins> or <Loremaster Malmern The Explorer>

Kommentar von 234570

I got this Title a few days ago. I am a Gnome Warlock so I get a lot of quest from my mount quest and I started the AQ quest.
There are some chains you need to do
1) the missing diplomat.
2)Tablets quest from Tanaris
3)Uldaman Disks quest

Even with all the class and aq chains I did. I had some trouble getting to 700 quests in Kalimdor. I recommend do not skip any quests here.

Kommentar von 331364

In theory, you are correct. However, this is a misleading figure. Many quests which do not count towards the LM achievements do count towards the Seeker. I.E. A bunch of the dungeon quests (even post their inclusion to the LM list; most specifically Gnomer and the like), seasonal quests, class specific quests... The list goes on.

Seeker is a big deal, there is no question. Loremaster, however, is a much bigger deal. The margin is considerably smaller then you are presenting.

I am in no way saying Loremaster is impossible or even going to be that horrifying in actual difficulty to achieve; it will merely take insanity, patience, and persistence displayed by a very small minority of WoW players... Think Wintersaber. Not crazy hard, just maddeningly dull.

As a second topic in this post, I have recently started a Warlock to level up. The goal is going to see how difficult it really is to get these achievements post 3.0.8 starting from scratch.

In Light of This

For those people like me who are crazy enough to start a toon from scratch and try for Loremaster and Seeker there is a mod which you cannot live without. Google "Everyquest" I know they have it on curse. It lists every quest (lol) in each zone and tracks what you have or have not completed. ALL the drop quests, all the hard to find ones, everything. The only reason I say "if you're starting from scratch" is because it is not retroactively intelligent.

My two cents as of right now.

Kommentar von 144725

I just got this achievement myself, and it was quite an adventure. Although, unlike most of the players, I had some problems with the Eastern Kingdoms, not Kalimdor part. Being Alliance, of course. I've played on the same toon since the day 1 of the European release, and I've done a lot of quests during this time. In Vanilla I started doing "old quests" at 60, and thus many of the starting area ones were empty for me. Those struggling with the Eastern Kingdoms, check the Badlands and Blasted Lands. They have about 30-40 quests there in total. Those two areas were my bane of Loremaster for a couple of days.

In Kalimdor, it is imperative to do the Missing Diplomat questline, Desolace quests and Silithus quests. Latter ones are boring like hell and require a lot of tenacity to complete, even though you are level 80. I wish luck and patience to all the future Loremasters. For we are few and a far in between.

Kommentar von mckaysalisbury

So, I just got Loremaster. I've been a questaholic for quite some time, and while I wouldn't say that I'm done with all quests, I don't think there're too many more that could count toward this achievement, as most of them are raid quests.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-statistics.xml?r=Terenas&cn=Bamf&gn=Basugasubakuhatsu

I'm currently sitting at
4313 Quests completed
613 Daily quests completed
So, I think that means I've done 3700 quests. That puts quite the margin in, about 1000, but if you've done 1000 extra quests in Classic WoW, you still have to do 140 of the ~150 quests in Icecrown (I've found that there's about 10 extra in each Wrath zone (I couldn't tell you about the other zones, because I had them upon the release of 3.0, but I think a few of them in Outlands are very very close )

Kommentar von monopoman

Realize going after this will make you rather rich. Especially the Northrend quests which have a very nice payout of rewards.

Kommentar von 329651

I just accomplished this on my Death Knight earlier today. This is a fantastic achievement to strive for, as it has kept the game interesting far after I ran out of other standard max. level activities. Completing this achievement will also likely: earn you several thousand gold, the Ambassador achievement, the Seeker achievement, unlock other factions and reputation rewards (mounts, crafting plans, etc.), and most importantly, let you experience the bulk of the game that you might have missed in your previous adventures. The title isn't the most impressive sounding (even though the feat itself is) and the tabard is quite ugly, but the personal reward is certainly worth the effort!

Kommentar von Ayria

A great add-on for this achievement is Carbonite. Basically what it does is gives you a checklist of every quest you can start in a zone. When you do a quest it marks it off the list. It lists all hard to find escorts, rare drops, and out of place quest givers. The only downside is after you download it, you have to mark off the quests your have already completed because it can't track quests before it is installed. Still a great way to go through a zone and see if you missed any quests.

Kommentar von white9

can someone pls tell my why horde has to do 165 qst less in the "old" zones then alliance, doesnt seem fair to me, even tho alliance may have more qst avaible we have to "work" harder to get this archievment

Kommentar von 452002

I got this acheivement today. Never have installed any questhelping addons, made a promise to the guild that I wouldn't. Though Wowhead and all the contributors helpful tips about which quests counted and did not were valuable when getting close. Thanks to all those who posted.

Kommentar von 258643

I DID IT! I rolled a rogue when WOTLK came out and I level thru each zone sequentially. I did not leave Old World for Outland until I was lvl 68! and then I was lvl 76.9 when I finally went to northrend! Questing was incredibly enjoyable this way and I had lots of fun! made over 19,000 gold while working towards Loremaster! NOT INCLUDING AUCTIONS! This is a very profitable non-daily-quest way to play the game!

Id have to say the hardest part of the whole ordeal was getting help for group quests. I did every zone except Icecrown before I transferred off Twisting Nether (RP-PvP) to Turalyon (PvE). People were always looking to help me in Icecrown.

I achieved Breadwinner, Seeker, Ambassador and several other minor achievements on the way to this one. You are missing out on the game if you haven't gotten loremaster!

Scribbler
Rogue
Turalyon

Kommentar von 470180

I'd like to add that if you're going to be going for this achievement (and thus doing this much running around) please remember to download the Wowhead Client so any goodies you come across get uploaded to the site! Ty! <3

Kommentar von cybernoid

If you're missing a few quests for a zone and are prepared to slit your wrists, don't forget to filter zone quests that start from a lootable item!

e.g. for Blade's Edge.

Kommentar von Nieker

You might want to wait since blizzard is going to implant This

You can now query for a list of completed quests with "QueryQuestsCompleted()" then wait for the "QUEST_QUERY_COMPLETE" event, and call "GetQuestsCompleted(<luatable>)".

addons that support it will probibly spawn soon

Source: http://www.wowwiki.com/3.3

Kommentar von Seriesh

Even with achievements such as Glory of the Ulduar Raider, What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been, and the like, I find this achievement to be one of the most rewarding and prestigious achievements in the game. No, you don't get phat lewts or epic mounts, and you don't get a ton of guild drama over where that loot/mount goes, but you get a lot more, if you read everything. You learn a LOT of lore about many parts of the game. You will have, most likely, participated in a VERY large amount of actual noticeable events in the game, such as helping save King Wrynn from the Defias, defeating Onyxia (even if we aren't mentioned), watching Bolvar's tragic "demise" at the Wrathgate, and, if you're a Death Knight, participated in the very event that broke you free from the Scourge so you could be a character in the game. And think about it... You'll have made a -ton- of money from the quest rewards. I actually paid for 95% of my epic flying mount with just Icecrown, Stormpeaks and the rest of the Azeroth quest achievements. Not to mention, your guild will probably be fairly impressed, because even in 3.2, I have not seen a large amount of Loremasters on my server.

This achievement, as stated before, will take some dedication to accomplish, as there are a fair few "hidden" quests that aren't as commonplace. Some examples are items that start a quest, which are dropped from only a scant few monsters in a less-traveled zone or just have a really low drop rate (Captain Sanders' quest line FTL). Others are just sneaky quest givers that you wouldn't notice any other time (most of the Alliance quests in Badlands, for example, as there are no camp markers).

Overall, you just need to look around every zone, see what you may have missed, or look up items on Wowhead here, and see what you may have missed. Even then, you may not know if you ever did something or not... For example, Captain Sanders' drop. Take your time, try to obtain it; if you don't see it after 30 minutes of the outright massacre of Murlocs (although, to you it'll be mere seconds, as killing demon-fish makes the time go by), ignore it for now and come back later, if you're even more hard-pressed for quests.

If you skipped the first comments before this, I'll give you a couple tips from them:

Be patient. Some quests take a ton of luck. It's frustrating, but annoyingly random spawns are annoyingly random.
For Outland and Northrend, just about every quest is tied into a major hub, and you'll usually go through every hub via breadcrumb quests. The breadcrumb quests themselves also help.
Don't try to do this in a day. Please. Ties in with be patient, but go at a leisurely pace.
Search Wowhead if you're not certain on something. This will be even more helpful come patch 3.3, as a previous poster stated above, you will be able to query for completed quests. If something seems out of place, or a guildie lets you know of a good quest that you may not have done, you can look for it here to find the stuff you need.
It's a game, don't get frustrated. Just move on if you can't get something done.
And finally, Azeroth is not Outland/Northrend. There are less breadcrumbs and more scattered quests and objectives. Definitely start with the easier ones first if you want to get the hang of it.

To everyone who has accomplished this task, congratulations. I still consider it a worthwhile and prestigious achievement, and wear your title proud. To those who are looking to do it, remember to take it one at a time. Definitely start with Northrend and Outland if you're already level 80, as you'll get good quest-hunting strategies from there, and I hope to see people with this achievement soon!

Edit: I should rephrase what I said at the top. All those achievements I listed are quite grand in their own right, and I finally completed Long, Strange Trip after missing G.N.E.R.D. Rage last year, and am enjoying my Violet Proto-Drake. All those achievements take their own level of dedication, although perhaps to different things (Raiding achievements being purely raid-based, LST being general, Loremaster being quest-centric), and should be honoured as well.

Kommentar von Dunzel

u have 2 do exactly 2843 q´s i the world of warcraft, but the title and the tabard makes it up 2 me.

Kommentar von PilsnerDk

Being an engineer helps tremendously when doing Loremaster.

Dimensional Ripper - Everlook - Easy porting to the northern Kalimdor
Dimensional Ripper - Area 52 / Ultrasafe Transporter: Toshley's Station - Quick transport to the northern area of Outland.
Jeeves - For selling, and putting stuff in your bank when your inventory is bursting from running an old world dungeon, such as Stratholme (Runecloth ahoy).
Scrapbot Construction Kit - For selling stuff whenever (shorter cooldown than Jeeves).

Further useful items or gimmicks:

Dalaran port to Caverns of Time = port to southern Kalimdor
Kirin Tor Ring along with a Hearthstone allows you to almost constantly HS to Dalaran and use portals to cities and/or CoT.

Kommentar von Cursalock

Simply a few words of encouragement from someone who just completed this achievement (as well as the Seeker).

Don't stress.

I spent more time stressing over whether or not there would be enough easily available quests that I often didn't enjoy the ride. However, there always seemed to be more quests and with a small amount of digging I was always able to find something new without encountering any major stumbling blocks to my efforts.

General points:

Move from zone to zone geographically, checking Wowhead and Wowwiki for quest givers and hubs in the current zone. When those quest lines are exhausted, search for the quest item drops and complete those quest lines. Do all available class quests. Suck it up and do your T0.5 armor quest line, it's significant. Be prepared to spend a lot of time soloing level 70 and under instances to complete quests. For some stuff you will have to ask friends for a few favours. Do every dungeon, and raid attunement chain. Don't drop a quest unless your log is full and you intend to pick it up later, and if you get an item that starts a quest open and complete it immediately.

There are more than enough quests available for both of these major achievements simply doing all of the quest hubs, the dungeon quests, and seeking out the zone quest starting drops. I spent two weeks in Blackrock Mountain instances and did the T0.5 chain, some things cost me a lot of $$$. I didn't have to do the AQ chain or anything crazy like that, it was 98% soloable at 80 or naturally done while levelling him to 70 and to 80 last year.

I have currently completed 4833 quests and 1689 daily quests (not sure if the stat tracker includes repeatable quests whereas achievements do not), so the number of quests you turn in that do not count towards both achievements is quite high.

It's a long, hard slog, but on the bright side you'll get innumerable other achievements while doing Loremaster and earn a lot of gold, even with the amount of money you have to put back into some quest lines for rare mats, etc. You'll have to do things like pay 100g to a pre-BC blacksmith to make you some obscure item that can only be forged in Molten core, etc.

Kommentar von 341672

EASY TO FINISH GUIDE ! EASY TO FINISH GUIDE ! EASY TO FINISH GUIDE !

For those extra lazy people (like me):

Visit http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10905-EveryQuest.html and follow the instructions given in the addon description concerning the change with Patch 3.3. (scroll down a little)

After you have done that, use the addon to see where your missing quests are, check on www.wowhead.com/wotlk if needed and finish your loremaster achievement !

All credit goes to the authors of EveryQuest !

Greetings
Fedono of Gorgonnash(EU)

Kommentar von 281833

I just completed some Quests for AQ 40 and these did indeed count for my Loremaster, I keep it tracked so I can see what counts and what doesn't.

Also, a useful tip is if you don't do holiday events, DO THEM! Quests such as the Trick or Treating, while they might not count towards your Loremaster, they do count towards your total quests count for Seeker title.

Kommentar von 457798

If you get Loremaster on Horde and faction change to Alliance, would you need to do this all again, or do you keep the achievement?

Kommentar von 20179

Get the EveryQuest addon. Blizzard added a new API in 3.3 that lets addon get a list of all the quests a player has completed. EveryQuest utilizes this. It will make your life easier. Especially those drop quests that you don't remember if you did, and the only way to find out is to farm for a drop with a low drop rate that you can't get anymore because you have completed the quest. No more!

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/everyquest.aspx

Kommentar von 283869

3243 quests I think

so doing this gets the Seeker title as well.

Kommentar von 53121

Even after completing this achievement I sometimes find more quests while adventuring in Azeroth and they are mostly "this item begins a quest" type of quests. So, my tip is: Search (WowHead for example) for quests that are started by an item if you can't see "!" anywhere.

Kommentar von Darkmanian

So you've decided to try and get Loremaster?

Addons you'll want to help you along the way:
1st is EveryQuest. A helpful tool that utilizes the recent quest database functionality introduced to the game, allowing you to see which quests you have no completed in every zone/ dungeon / raid. It can also filter out various quests you might not want to start ie; raid specific quests / cooking / class etc.

The 2nd is Lightheaded which has the ability to show you valuable WoWhead comments and info when you access your quest log. It can also show you where quest givers are in the form of coordinates. Very very helpful.

The 3rd is TomTom waypoint arrow. This will integrate with your EveryQuest & Lightheaded and allow you to see where you need to be on the map, mini map and on screen HUD. Its a small movable arrow that points the way to objectives and/or quest givers and any other location you wish to ask it to point to.
For instance, if you're currently looking for a druid in Moonglade named Rukthaan (fictional as I can't think of any of their names right now) you would only need to type the NPCs name into Lighthead's search engine. Find the right NPC and then click on the provided coords inside Lighthead interface, that will automatically engage TomTom's way point arrow to help you locate the NPC.

But that was a hypothetical and EveryQuest should tell you exactly what quests you need to complete in order to finish each zone as you go on. It will also have the functionality to help you see which quest givers have what, and allow TomTom to tell you where to go to find them. But.. incase you want to trek to a specific NPC and want info on the (what could be) thousands of quests you have remaining you'll want Lightheaded as well.

Kommentar von Fenalya

3 months after starting in earnest, today, the achievement is mine. Was it worth it? I dunno...kinda cool to have a title that few others have, especially is contrast to all the Celestial Mounts that everyone went out and dropped $25 bucks on, but I really wish the tabard was better looking.

Soloed the whole thing, mostly at 80. A few tips that I found along the way:

Kalimdor - There are 2 neutral quests available in from a goblin just outside of Orgimmar. These were numbers 699 and 700 for me. So if you're stuck, don't forget these. I think you have to have done the Wrathgate in Northrend to have access to them.

Eastern Kingdoms: I think the real way that i kinda screwed myself was trying to do one continent at a time rather than going where the chains take you. There were a few chains that start in EK, but that have components that do count towards Kalimdor as well. (And I'm sure the opposite is also true, though I didn't really check as I was doing Kalimdor.) Overall, I found EK easier than Kalimdor.

Old World in general: be prepared for a LOT of travel...some of these old chains will take you to the ass-end of the world to pick up some useless widget.

Outlands: Easy stuff, EXCEPT for Blade's Edge Mountains. There are a total of 90 quests available to Alliance in BEM, and you need 86 for the achievement. BUT...there are 2 quests leading into Toshley's Station that you can't pick up if you have done any other quests in TS. (I think that chain starts at the robot to the west of TS.) If you can't do those 2, then get ready to farm like mad for Etherium Prison Keys for the Consortium quests out of Netherstorm.

Northrend: As someone else noted, the only hard part here is Icecrown because if the weird phasing on some of the later group quests. I found that I could solo most of the early group quests geared for ToC, though.

EveryQuest and Questhelper are your friends. (EveryQuest can be a bit frustrating though..it lists some quests that are no longer available, and sometimes doesn't pick up on quests that you've done long ago.)

Good luck to any who try.

Kommentar von Polatrite

Curiously, does anyone have an approximation of how much gold you could earn by completing this title at level 80?

Kommentar von Evariste93

Alliance has to do 700 in Kalimdor, and 700 in Eastern Kingdoms, whereas Horde only has 685 in Kalimdor and 550 in Eastern Kingdoms...
What the hell, i don't care if they have a harder time finding their quests, it's not hard to download an addon...That's hours more ~~questing~~ grinding that we have to go through... :(

Kommentar von 502381

An easy way to keep track of what quests you have completed is the EveryQuest addon. It querys blizzards server and then it shows which quests you have and haven't done in a certain zone. I'm using it now to finish the kalimdor achievement and it makes it so much easier.

Kommentar von kylsh

Just finished this two boxing. While mostly a pain in the ass, I did it to say that I've done all the old world, especially considering how it's going to change in Cataclysm.

Did I have fun doing it? Not really, but every quest I did brought back a lot of memories, and was well worth it. Nice trip down memory lane for my two horde mains (I did most of pre-BC on alliance toons, this was a trip in the way-back machine).

Kommentar von catpokemon

BTWQuests addon would really help with this in tracking what chains you have done or are in the midst of!

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