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评论来自
7600
This is known as the actual axe of Grom Hellscream.
That other legendary axe which people are posting about is fake. *
* To those that didn't know, or don't remember, there was a screenshot of this very axe, however legendary in quality (orange-ish colored name) with much better (legendary, of course) stats. I believe this was pre-BC, or maybe early-BC.
评论来自
5661
Fairly comparable to others such as Gladiator's and Bloodmoon - and a great mass of stats, no doubt.
Lacking, however, for the weapon of such a legendary orc - in my opinion.
Comes from Karazhan.
评论来自
29183
I agree with Toker, IF they allow Icecrowne do become a new continent in the next expansion, and IF they make Arthas, or now "The Lich King" the end boss, Frostmourne should drop, and it would have to be extremely powerful, and as he already said, an Artifact. I am disappointed they did not buff Grom's axe a bit more, being that he slayed Mannaroth in a single blow. That statement however, credits Hyle in that: Grom was an extremely powerful warrior, and with HIS strength, he was allowed to slay Mannaroth... Among other things, my friends and myself have debated over the possible "Equip" effects of the sword Frostmourne. Will it have the Equip ability to currupt the user as it did Arthas? Or... with the slaying of the Lich King, will it just merely become a powerful melee 2hander?
评论来自
Khane
Not sure why people feel Grom's axe should be legendary when weapons once held by legendary characters like ashbringer (in its current form) and Ashkandi are epics. The power was not in the weapons but the men who wielded them. I think this weapon is great as is
评论来自
17619
I find it very true that Groms axe should not be legendary.. His axe alone do not have Lore of its own.. Groms fury and power was the force that killed Mannaroth. Frostmourne however is another chase.. It has its own Lore and should by far be legendary if not more.. But i still consider if it should even be a drop.. Lore in warcraft 3 was that Arthas was loosing the battle, and almost all hope was out.. Then he finds Frostmourne, and the sword "ALONE" turn the tide of the batte.. Furthermore the sword turns Arthas agains his own heart..
Frostmourne is the single mightiest weapon ever..
Just for a sec, consider the CoH that weapon should have.. Even consider the dmg.. Nothing we know of at the moment should be even close to Frostmourne..
Groms axe dont have anything like this..
Hand of Ragnaros; well it was legendary because it was the ultimative weap at that time when we only had MC.. It was the very weapon of the mightiest boss we could face...
Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker; came with BWL, but history lagged quite a lot on that one; specally with the welp of a boss you have to fight in the end..
Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian; The staff of the last guardian, wich included both AQ, Naxx, Argent Dawn and Stratholme.. Story goes it was the greatest staff of all.. Worn by the last guardian of Azeroth.. He was possed by the very Dark Titan Sargaras, the sworn enemy of the univers.. His staff was shattered and 40 pieces was in Naxx, 1 more from KT and last was from C'Thun in AQ.. It was a great story.. One of a kind..
All had great stories but Groms axe cannot be compared with thise..
评论来自
33684
The way I see it, for 2 handers:
Honor Reward Weapons < Tier 1 Smithing Weapons < Gorehowl < Tier 2 Smithing Weapons = Gladiator's Weapons < Tier 3 Smithing Weapons
评论来自
Protagonist
Stats in 2.1 patch:
345-518 damage
119,9 DPS
49 Strength
43 Agility
51 Stamina
Argueably better than the tier 2 blacksmithing weapons
评论来自
52618
If the sword of Lothar and the hammer of Arthas aren't legendary weapons, it makes perfect sense that this shouldn't be legendary either.
I still wonder how it ended up in Karazhan though.
评论来自
54135
Comparing this with Mooncleaver for lovers of axespec, the main difference is the stamina.
Mooncleaver has more damage and about 1% more crit. Gorehowl has stam, and also over 1% dodge from the agil. AP bonus is nearly the same.
评论来自
56599
Why this axe is better than you think in PvE. Its a pure stat weapon, which means the strength, agility and stamina are all effected by blessing of kings. Which means if your in a half decent 25 man raiding guild, the stats on this weapon are always going to be 10% better in a raid. Pretty nice imo. Where as Mooncleaver has no pure stats on it what so ever.
So yeh they are pretty similar, but im taking Gorehowl for when i get my TK attuments done and can finally get back to 33/28 spec :) as i am no a blacksmither.
评论来自
archanfel
Best looking 2H axe hands down.
评论来自
65698
If you have WC3, complete the orc campain and watch the cinematic of Thrall and Grom at the end, you can see the axe Grom has looks exactly the same.
im glad blizzard have kept it the same, brings more of a history to the axe for Wc3 players.
评论来自
54798
Great overall option for an Arms warrior who didn't take up Blacksmithing. It's too bad they didn't keep the Legendary version of Grom's axe though. Hahaha, I would have loved to see a warrior chopping up "squishies" with it.
Here's the link again:
http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/view/1859.jpg
评论来自
63626
Well, legendary or not, this weapon rocks. Got it last night and I am now a happy Shaman. I can get 3-3.5K Windfury hits, and I am Resto (0/11/50) specced, lol. I wonder what kind of damage will it do when I'll spec Enhancement...
评论来自
59219
I just lost the roll of this to a hunter (I am a MS Warrior)
What do you think, isn't Sonic Spear better for a hunter than this?
评论来自
Itharius
As an enhancement shaman, I was also outrolled on this by a hunter on the basis that I didn't need it for PvE. He was "upgrading" from a sonic spear. -.-
Strength is a really important stat for hunters, I've heard.
评论来自
45398
Drops off Prince Malcheezar in Karazhan, This is by far one of the best 2h weapons for a dps warrior untill you start raiding 25 mans, and is still better than some 25 man 2h weapons, such as pit of the glaive.
评论来自
23254
our guild currently has 2 teams running Kara clearing to prince every week. For 10 man's rolling is fine, but i always have it set to master loot, so that if a situation like that one arises i can make the judgment call and give gear to the class that can best utilize it.
granted Kara is a raid situation, but if your guild operates like it should, i.e. a group of friends enjoying a video game and working toward a common goal, then in a 10 man instance rolls should be fine. It helps if the raid leader isn't an idiot and leaves it on Group loot so huntards can roll on warrior gear.
评论来自
83875
i will agree this is not the axe that a hunter should get first roll on a enhancment shammy pallyor warrior would find much better use but if noone wants it or what they have is better then i think a hunter should get this first strength increases your total damage output and agility directly increasesyour critical chance percentage and attack power (the ratio i believe is 1 agility= 1 attack power) and stamina increases your total health by 510 and ahunters pet by a small amount ( not sure how much) therefore this would be a great hunters weapon if a melee class did not need it
Wolfkingz 70 hunter Hydraxis Server Alliance
评论来自
Arideni
This axe is terrible for hunters. If you're a hunter and your guild is doing Karazhan, if you do not have a Sonic Spear (or one like it) then you aren't doing your part for the team in Karazhan. You need to step back, go do the 5 mans and get some +hit items, because you're not likely helping as much as getting "Carried"
Simple as that, the Hit on Sonic Spear will help you a helluva lot more than STR on Gorehowl...oh, for pvp? Go do arena and get an arena weapon, or you can always just take loot "by default" and be carried =/
评论来自
84159
Seriously not a hunter weapon. Gives a huge 43 RAP.
Go farm SL for Sonic Spear, buy your HH/Thrallmar spear or hope Legacy drops. Any of them are much better IMO.
评论来自
Faunus
I haven't seen a weapon in the game that looks better overall than Gorehowl with a mongoose enchant.
It's a real attention getter in BG still, even with 25man gear running around.
评论来自
70401
Yes , Shamans CAN USE Gorehowl just as long as they do their talent points on Enhancement for Two-Handed Axes and Two Handed Maces Talent.
评论来自
20243
Got this as a level 70 Hunter, and no, it isn't comparable to sonic spear, which you should have by the time you hit karazhan. Me stupidly thinking 'oh look, it has more agi than sonic spear' is a bad way to compare.. only managed to justify it now by paying for an agi enchant, which just about make it the same (my +hit rating being fine anyway). If I could go back and change time, I'd throw it to a shammie every time.
评论来自
Tyrion
Stam over ap? Lol. I guess thats why you sacrificed 80 ap for 3 agi....
Im a survival hunter as well, and by no means is 3 agi (.87 ap per physical ) worth the 80 ap on
Legacy
.. unless you're suggesting your kara now has 92.75 physical dpsers? (Slightly less if there are dual wielders); Not to mention the mp5 of Legacy puts it that much further ahead.
(Sorry if this seems like a flame, I'm just strongly hoping hunters wont take this axe unless 1. they somehow are very unlucky on getting sonic spear or legacy or 2. Nobody else can take it and your guild doesn't need voids :P (Because this axe looks sweet)
评论来自
gazhkull
One thing to consider in comparisons with other two-handed axes of similar dps is that Gorehowl confers a mass of basic attribute bonuses which can be further enhanced by a Paladin's Blessing of Kings as opposed to secondary attributes like AP, crit rating, etc. which remain static.
评论来自
102378
According to that i think:1)His axe was 2Handed {If we see the scene that put it at Mannoroths Heart we will see he put it with 2 Hands}2)Some say that this axe must be burned from the demonic fire then the Mannoroth die but it wasn't infected.{The Grom throw the axe down and the fire of explosion hit his body not the sword}3)The axe was long and got and angle if we see the scene and the Graficals of the Game.4)Some say that this axe giving immune to fear,stunt........but this is impposible the power was coming from grom power.5)EVER THE PRODUCTERS TELL IT THIS.
评论来自
Marouka
How does this compare to Mooncleaver for a MS / Flurry warrior?
And what enchant should I save up for? Executioner is what I am looking at. Many still tell me to go for Mongoose and some still say to go for Savagery. What do you people say?
I do lots of arena and pvp. I raid often but care about PvP more.
评论来自
camarouge
Tonight marked a moment in history for my guild; we downed the Prince for the first time. This sweet little thing dropped to make it all the more worthwhile.
Now, I am a retribution pally, and I cannot decide between either this or
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28429
. But since this axe has an abundant chunk of stamina, I think it has a pre-destined use in at _least_ PvP...
评论来自
Phioner
Better than gladiator's bonegrinder (
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28299
) for a shaman. Tho gladiator's item is maybe easier to obtain in patch 2.3.
Comparing (stats this gives to shaman):
Gorehowl
98 ap
510 health
1.72% crit and dodge
Gladiator's bonegrinder
64 ap
480 health
1.59% crit
1.27% hit
So gorehowl gives you:
+34ap
+30 health
+0.13% crit
+1.72% dodge
-1.27% hit
You can make yourself the decision, but I would personally go for gorehowl.
评论来自
100447
what about Gorehowl X Hammer of the Naaru for enhancement shamy??? this ap and some +crit is good, but Naaru has 2xRed and 1xBlue sockets....it seems Naaru overrock Gorehowl for pvp?
评论来自
71213
i lost this to our hunter (i am off tank and ms on weekends). it *!@#es me off.
评论来自
Strye
Comparing Gorehowl and Glaive of the Pit (in Warrior/Ret Paladin terms):
Gorehowl:
49 STR = 98 / 107.8 Attack power = 7 / 7.7 Increased DPS - a raw
127.7 / 128.4 dps.
43 AGI = 1.303/1.72 Crit, 86 armor, and 1.433/1.72 Dodge.
51 STA = 510 HP
Glaive of the Pit:
3x Red Gem slots.
Anywhere from 24 STR to 12 STR / 12 Crit Rating- there's a broad spectrum of how you can flex this weapon.
24 STR = 48 / 52.8 AP = 3.42 / 3.77 DPS - a raw
123.12 / 123.47 DPS
4 Crit Rating = .1695 % to Critical Strike.
*2 PPM on 3.7 = 12.33% chance to deal 283-315 Shadow damage / Heal per hit. *
Over 60 seconds- 10 Crusader Strikes, 16.2 White Swings, ( 16 x .43209 ) = 6.91 Seal of Command.
10+16.2+6.91 = 33.11 x .1233 = 4.082 x 285-315 = 1163.5 - 1285.83 DPM / 60 = 19.3916 - 21.4305 DPS (!!) x .95 (5% resist) 18.422 - 20.359 DPS =
AVG 19.3905
DPS and
96.95 hp5
I'm not a math genius but I think that's technically correct.
SO
Gorehowl - 127.7 / 128.4 Final DPS + 510 HP + ~1.5% Crit.
Glaive of the Pit -
142.51 / 142.86 Final DPS + 97 hp5 + Very Minor Crit
And Glaive has higher Top-End.
I pick Glaive for PvE thanks.
评论来自
Jickles
Why would a shaman choose gorehowl over a bonegrinder? They're both obviously only viable in pvp, 2h dps is terrible for pve. The resilience on the Bonegrinder is more than worth it.
评论来自
Orvisand
Even though there are better weapons than this, most Orc Warrior would most likely wanna keep this for the lore.
评论来自
robinhood36
I have this on my Holy Paladin enchanted with +20 haste rating just to make warriors die a little on the inside.
评论来自
126756
I rly like the stats for the Legendary version...makes me drool...yah if Gorehowl didn't have such an epic description/legacy then I wouldn't care but I think this would be much cooler as legendary.
评论来自
146568
It's rubbish if you say a hunter should pass this axe, in my opinion.
I am a hunter myself, and if I would get the chance to roll on this weapon, I would gladly roll need. It's not about the stats, since I would hardly use it in normal raids/dungeons/whatever else, but it's because this axe once belonged to one of the greatest warriors in the whole orcish history. I'm a great warcraft fan, so if someone ever notices a person like me rolling need on this, the fact that it's an monumental axe would be a good reason.
Enough said, lets do Karazhan!
评论来自
Aarpia
This dropped recently for my run. Had a retri pally and a hunter beg for this, I gave it to the pally without even giving the hunter a chance to roll. The hunter was %^&*ed, til the rest of the guild pointed out that it sucked for him. The retri pally was, however, VERY happy.
评论来自
104455
If your a shaman stick with 2 1h weapons,why else do you think that Blizzard Entertainment made it that shamans can dual-weild?
Blizzard Also made that shamans can use 2h maces and axes. I'v seen some pretty nice dps with 2h PvE, though 1h's Will Win.
On the other hand, 2h shaman is PvP gold, aswell as 1'hs, Many guilds give their MainTank a large shiney axe purely for the purposes of PvP...
Ofcourse, if someone who could benefit from having it in PvE i would let them take it, But if it outranks their current weapon, i will give it to Someone who is in need of a PvP weapon and would make good use of it.
评论来自
156171
Have not many people noticed, that it's one of the few items that look just like their icon.
评论来自
74126
who ever said Grom was Thrall's older brother is retarded. Grom was like a big brother to Thrall.
评论来自
154643
a very wise thing to do is to give this to a retri paladin since they only can do dps with a 2h and the warriors/shammans can dual-weild so if they have 2 pretty nice 1h:s give this to a pally FFS
评论来自
Anarchy
It's been disenchanted 71 times... (Or more for those who don't use wowhead client)
Shame on them!
评论来自
177051
Imagine when WotLK comes out a 70 fury warrior Duel Wielding Gorehowl with Savagery or 20haste on each.... OP
评论来自
176454
it should be only for orcs, like Goblin Smasher is only to taurens.
评论来自
133573
Beleive or not i actually threw this axe today at
Monument to Grom Hellscream
As an orc warrior i do respect him a lot so he deserve to have his axe back.
/salute
评论来自
goblinego
Think that Warrior can dual-wield these in WotLK with fury specc
评论来自
168444
This is the Legendary axe known for killing Cenarius and Mannoroth...but...it was the weilder who shown its true terror...and not the accursed axe...
评论来自
Greentastic
I have
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28773
with Mongoose on it and
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28794
with Executioner. My little Titan's Grip starter set.
评论来自
208725
On the PTR this weapon is no longer unique, making it a excellent choice for any titans grip warrior.
评论来自
Teemu
The Wep that Hellscream used to "kill" Magthedorion...
I Havent played WC 1/2/3 so correct me if im Wrong!
Is this good for Hunters anyway?
评论来自
150645
mongoose does look pretty sick on gorehowl, but for looks alone I prefer savagery, it looks insane dripping blood, it's also not unique, which interests me, and makes me think they may improve it later on, and possibly let you dual wield it in Wotlk, if ever I wanted my warrior made into a rl figure, I'd want him holding 2 gorehowls both dripping blood, with the horseman's helm on, >:D I hope they do more with his son in wrath, maybe you get to give him gorehowl and he upgrades it or something like that :D
评论来自
231676
this axe rocks i have it for my main and i pwn in bgs
评论来自
100627
Is it possible to Dual weild this via Titan's Grip?
评论来自
216490
the last i heard about possible stats for the proposed frostmourne would make it a weapon that would be almost exclusiely a ret pally wep. the stats i heard were +200 strength +100 intellect and +150 stamina. rate this down if u like just saying this is wat ive heard.
评论来自
91451
Not unique. *wink wink to the Fury Warrior's post 3.0
评论来自
239719
Gorehowl is a weapon of perfection for some warriors that just started Kara / Gruul / Maggy but later on you should pick up
in my opinion.
Jin'Rohk
may be better for a retadin but I still think it's a good warr wepaon with the high raw AP.
评论来自
Dimish
I'd say if you don't want to pvp and ya want to level as fury (Warrior shizzle here), Get this and
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28794
(Axe of the Gronn lords from Gruul) for your TG and WoTLK leveling needs ;). They both pack quite the kick, and are fairly easily attainable.
评论来自
Avarthas
You people cant just understand it at all :O..
We cant make it legandary.. by other means they ( Meaning by blizzard ) cant make it because this axe was just a normal axe .. if you give grom hell scream a pice of candy he still can kill manaroth .. or any one else .. his power of freedom and the faith of rescuing his people made him pew pew with his axe ..
if we make it legandary nothing will happen too .. the power was in grom not the axe..
What is little wierd that by the meaning how the hell did this prince or guy picked it up or even found it .. lol wat ever :)
评论来自
169060
Prince Malchezaar Steal it from groom!WTF?
评论来自
294264
I think Blizz should make Groms' axe obtainable through a quest line instead of a drop from Kara. I think it would make obtaining Gorehowl more fun.
评论来自
bobkillya5
imagen two of these with the titasn grip thing fro warriars D
评论来自
266285
Any human who gets this deserves to be hung in the middle of Orgrimmar.
It's the blade of Grom Hellscream. It's drank in the blood of humans for...well, I don't even know how long.
Everytime I see an Alliance person with this axe...I yell at them. Very loudly.
Now...Hordies who aren't orcs? Eh, I can live with it. They're still the orc's buddies, so it's ok. But...Alliance...uuugh.
Kinda makes me wish they'd make two separate quests; One for Alliance that could give Quel'Zaram (Lothar's weapon), and one for Horde which would give Gorehowl.
But...eh, oh well. Guess it's too late now =/ Probably gonna get down-rated for this anyways...
评论来自
266285
...So, if Frostmourne is SOOOOO pathetic, why did Arthas have to use it to kill Mal'Ganis, who is a dreadlord, one of the stronger and far more cunning races of the Burning Legion?
If Frostmourne is SOOOOO pathetic, why did it kill a dreadlord who is (according to CoT Stratholme and wowhead) lvl 82?
If Frostmourne is SOOOOO pathetic, why does just about everything in lore point to it being a real damn powerful piece of crap?
Answer these questions correctly, you get a cookie. Incorrectly? You'll be lolzuberfail.
Oh, and also, THE GUY WAS FREAKING KIDDING! Whenever someone says something like, "This is the most -insert adjective here- -insert noun here- ever", you freaking KNOW they're not serious.
And also...Frostmourne HAS killed a large amount of people too. It was responsible for the (supposed) death of Muradin Bronzebeard, Arthas' entire kingdom (while the sword didn't do this itself, it DID corrupt Arthas into doing that), a large amount of humans, high elves, orcs (the Blackrock Clan in the Blackrock and Roll, Two! mission), blood elves, naga, some trolls, and some other random things.
Not to mention, in the RPG, you have to be a damn MILE AWAY from the stupid thing to be free again!
And, finally, a few other things...
No, Al'Akir was NOT the Old God of thunder. He wasn't even a GOD of thunder. Heck, thunder wasn't even his ELEMENT! He was the Elemental Lieutenant of WIND.
And, if the Ashbringer was more powerful then Frostmourne, why didn't it kill the Lich King either of the times Tirion used it against him?
First time: Tirion smacked him in the face with it. DIDN'T KILL HIM! All it did was weaken him slightly. AND THAT WAS EVEN ON HOLY GROUND!
Second time: Tirion stabbed Arthas' heart with it. STILL DIDN'T KILL HIM! All it did was bring the Lich King to about 30% health, and even then, the next time you see him, he's at 100% health again!
No, Gorehowl did not kill several Alliance leaders. And for a few reasons, too.
First: Grom was stuck on Draenor for the whole period of the First and Second Wars.
Second: It makes no mention AT ALL of Grom killing ANY Alliance leaders during the Invasion of Draenor, except for ONE! And even then, that was only a lieutenant or something like that; he wasn't the leader of the whole force.
And, the Emerald Glaive you say? No, it did NOT make it so Broxigar would never be tired while slaying demons. NEVER. And I'm very sure, if given the chance, Frostmourne would make the same, single little scratch it made on Sargeras. And, also...Sargeras only took action against him because Brox fricken LEAPT right in front of him. And, lastly, it was mostly just Broxigar's own might that killed all those demons; not the axe itself. Hell, he had similar results with the axe he had during the First, Second, and Third Wars!
Gorchalach and Gorribal...ya, of course they're more powerful. THEY'RE WIELDED BY GODS! As I said before, the guy was kidding. KIDDING. Anyone with ANY common sense AT ALL, could tell he was joking and/or making it sound more glorious then it really was.
So, as I said before, given all that I've said, try to answer those questions I gave you truthfully.
评论来自
237790
This is the one weapon i never get rid of, if i ever get it.
It's a good DPS axe to have, especially for Fury
评论来自
Wynner
so it's not unique? FURY WARRI POWA! though i know it's BC epic:S:S
评论来自
thehman59
imo alliance should not be able to get this wep >.> they can have something from there faction like uther's hammer or somthing like that
评论来自
204641
Grom is Thralls bigger brother, slain while protecting him. The axe cut
trough
Mannaroth polararm killed him whit one hit damn hit. If you go to Ashenvale you can still see the polararm howering in the air in 2 parts. Give it a small proc that do like 700 damage, revmove armor or sumthing and then we are talking Grom Hellscreams axe.
Still, how did Prince Malchezaar get Gorehowl to start whit?
Aside from what everbody said, Grom ducked, slided UNDERNEATH the polearm, and whacked at his plated belly
Proof?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luuUE0x7-TY&feature=PlayList&p=556A518EAA5FBDC8&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=14
EDIT: Forgot the quotation box >.<
评论来自
384101
How come this wasn't a legendary weapon. This is a significant weapon to the horde. Blizzard was really slacking on this one. I mean this weapon is soo sick to look at that I still walk around with it in my bags.
评论来自
Rhagus
After naming my character after Grom Hellscream (Gromhel) the axe dropped for me today. It was my first Kara run ever on this character and I won Gorehowl by rolling 100.
Now how can one not believe in destiny? :P
评论来自
darkwiz787
Its odd that the prince drops this. I thhink a cool Outlands boss would have been "Tortured Soul of Grom Hellscream."
Edit: I lookup up some lore, Ashenvale, not outlands xD
评论来自
424567
Considering the case of Ashkandi and Ashbringer, Gorehowl being
epic is allright. However, Ashbringer has its own quest line,, and story behind it.
In addition,. you have to remember that Alexandro Morgraine was a mighty paladin,
but Ashbringer itself was extremely powerful weapon created from Atamal crystal.
Since Ashbringer had purifing ability, Morgraine had power against scourge more thatn anyone.
In addition, Andunin Lothar's former blade "Ashkandi" isn't actually clearly
blade of A.L. There was also debate about AL's weapon, since Quel'Serar also
seems to fit one of the blade of AL. ALthough tool tip says A..L inscription,
It isn't clear whether the blade belongs to AL, or was given by AL.
I think one reason people want more from Gorehowl is that it was weapon of
one of the greatest hero in the Horde, but drops from "Nowhere" without any
story behind it. You've goit to agree on the fact that Gorehowl drops from Karathan's
final boss... a Buring Legion's demon is kinda out of nowhere....
While Ashbringer was all mighty weapon in WOW before BC, Gorehowl was
almost "starting Weapon" in BC. That's where people complains about.
I personally want extra quest on Gorehowl to improve the weapon...
Quest's like... Gorehowl's power was sealed away by burning legion, and
Thrall asks to retain it or something of that sort. Although asking this
while WotLK is already out is impossible : (
评论来自
358299
I think all "lore-master" wannabies should first play WC3,AT LEAST,or else they are a failboat.
评论来自
426844
I really think only Orc Warriors should use this since it was held by an Orc Warrior.
评论来自
242632
This is not hunter loot!
THIS! IS! ORC LOOT!
评论来自
Vishin
Let's clear things up about this weapon being in Karazhan. The axe is still where Grom died, This axe is just memory in Karazhan due to the lore of Karazhan having everything from past present future running around this tower. GoreHowl is just a memory in Azeroth. The real axe is still in the canyon.
评论来自
533219
i ran kara with a few 80s just to get this axe
评论来自
Grimtongue
This is a really good tanking weapon for Death Knights (I hope to get it for my DK tank). It gives a solid amount of stamina, parry, armor, crit, and dodge.
评论来自
425938
this should have been a legendary.. no q lines, no !@#$, just pure gorehowl. and it should have a buff called. rage of hellscream: call on the power of gorehwol like grom hellscream 10,000 years ago when he sliced sargera's leg. gives you a 1000 stamina and strength for 2 mins.(1 hour cooldown)
评论来自
545995
I want Gorehowl but the !@#$ing Prince don't want to give it to me. I killed him like a hundred times!
评论来自
pojih
anyone else wish they didn't de this weapon?
评论来自
VSUReaper
I know its a down ranked comment, and I know I'm just feeding a troll, but I cant resist:
this should have been a legendary.. no q lines, no !@#$, just pure gorehowl. and it should have a buff called. rage of hellscream: call on the power of gorehwol like grom hellscream 10,000 years ago when he sliced sargera's leg. gives you a 1000 stamina and strength for 2 mins.(1 hour cooldown)
Grom NEVER encountered Sargeras, especially 10,000 years ago. You are thinking of Broxigar, (older brother) of Saurfang. It was Brox that attacked Sargeras, buying Malfurion the time he needed to close off the portal Sargeras was attempting to enter through.
The closest Grom ever came to Sargeras was when he was interacting with the Legion, either working for them or against them.
I felt the need to correct this so if someone else read that would not be confused. The story of Broxigar can be found the War of the Ancients Trilogy, specifically the third part, The Sundering.
评论来自
Archangel76
What I want to see on here is one bad-ass orc warrior dual-wielding two of these.
This weapon makes me wanna roll an orc. :D
评论来自
462250
a mighty axe used to slay a demi-god and the mightiest pitlord in the war of the anctients........which could fall into the hands of a gnome in an 14% drop rate...scary as it may be it is fully un-ficticous.Such a threat in the world of azeroth
评论来自
executable
Dual wielding this as a fury warrior makes all the Grom die-hard fans cry in their beds.
评论来自
Allakhazam
OMFG, Hellscream's axe! Hmm, how did Malachezzar get it, lol? Still, this is a warr weap. Hellscream was a warrior and paladins should wield 1h or 2h maces. Shamans should need this only if there is NO OTHER WARRIOR IN THE PARTY!
All in all, nice axe :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
For all you &*!@#$%s and Shammys, this is strictly an Arms warrior/Pally weapon. Although it SHOULD primarily go to an arms warrior since hell put out more dps with it BUT by all means the retadin will benefit too (Before you all go "LOL RETADIN?" I personally now a retadin with this weapon, and he rapes FACE. Tops the Dps charts in 25-mans. The "LOL RETADINS" you're thinking about are the 8 yr olds who think they're "The fury" when all they do is slam their heads on their keyboards) . Hell, I'd even like this baby on my fury warrior just as a PvP toy and cause it looks so damn cool! Back to my main point, Melee weapons should go to melee classes. Hunters, there's way better options for you out there and I advise you to stay away from this weapon, cause you might get /Gkick'ed, besides, you can always keep trying to legacy which is sooooooo much better of a hunter weapon. As for you shammy's, well....obviously if a warrior/pally doesn't want it then let the hunter have it if he doesn't have legacy, and if the hunter has legacy, REJOICE! For you've won a useless 2h that you'll probably never use because you're either resto to heal or DW for enhancement. Suck it up and eat face, that's the truth.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got this for my Shaman... YAY
评论来自
Allakhazam
I am surprised it's not a legendary item. Still, it looks awesome and has great stats. Can't wait to get one for myself!
评论来自
Allakhazam
I dont see why orcs should be happy with this now that the weapon skill has gotten the nerf tbh.
Same goes for humans on maces/swords ofc.
+5 skill = 0.04 x 5 = 0.2% crit more or less.
Big deal ;/
Still the axe owns HARD.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Yet another 2h weapon added to my shamans collection.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Trust me, as an enhancement shaman, I love the stats and dps as much as anyone, but to put the axe of Grom Hellscream in the game and not as a legendary item is terrible. This axe is going to be seen a lot, and frankly I don't want to see 20 people with Gorehowl.
评论来自
Allakhazam
holy cow !
war-orcs are going to be very happeeeeeeeeeeeeee
maybe it will become a legendary item later...
or maybe Grom had more than 1 axe in his ... err... bag?
time always tell
评论来自
Allakhazam
All that posted that his item is fake are noobs NOOBS!If you all have Warcraft 3 or Warcraft 3 The frozen throne watch the movies from there where Gromhellscream and Thrall fight Magtertion or some think his is called and see the axe its the same as this one that the dude posted the image this item is Real and i want to get it with my warrior my orc.BTW i am a Hellscream fan!
评论来自
Allakhazam
HUNTER WEP
评论来自
Allakhazam
This sucks for Hunters, as Strength is pretty useless to hunters if the tank is doing his job right. Might be good for PVP Hunters, but then again, there are weapons u can get from PVP rewards that are alot better. As for Enhancement Shamans, their ideal setup is dual-wielding, isn't it?
Should be Retri Paladins and Arms/Fury Warriors rolling for this, primarily. Then Hunters/Shamans (if they REALLY want to).
评论来自
Allakhazam
Lol, Lothar was nothing thats why his weapon is for lvl 60 but this is retarted putting Hellscream's axe in as an epic and for lvl 70 no less i hope blizzard will make a quest to upgrade this or im gonna be pissed.
评论来自
Allakhazam
hey guys i have a 70 shaman as well as a 62 warrior. This axe is good for both classes but in no way should it always go to a warrior. i only read about half way down the post until everyone was making fun of ret pallys or w/e they were doin. I did read something saying about how bad it was that a enhancement shaman rolled on this over warriors, i honestly dont think this was a ninja in any way at all. Warriors should get no right to have this over a shaman as it is great for both classes. It gives the same AP, the same health and the same armor/crit and all else that agi gives. if a warrior ever yelled at me for rolling need on this (which my guild uses master loot) i would not let them kick me because i would leave before they could.
PS: I joined a raiding guild just a few days ago and they agreed that they would let me go back to enhancement once they found some more healers, they also agreed that once gorehowl were to drop they would give it to me, over all other dps warriors in there.
Edited, Nov 13th 2007 8:47pm by ZilkDS
评论来自
Allakhazam
This can go for both warriors and retribution-paladins. Why not? Because "pally cant dps a shut lolwut y u dpsing?"? If thats what you think, start a paladin, retribution. Paladins can DPS just fine. And this axe gives them the stats to do it. Works for shammies too.
Of course, this weapon is excellent for warriors as well. Don´t go around posting bull&*!@ like "this ONLY goes for warriors/paladins/shamans". You will never agree anyway. Just simply agree that it can go for all three classes and that´s the end of it.
And yes, I agree that a hunter will have no fair reason whatsoever to need on this when a paladin/shaman/warrior is rolling for it.
Btw, lore says that Grom Hellscream was a blademaster. What? A blademaster with an axe?
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/files/legendary-axe-id1859/
mos likely a fake but still
评论来自
Allakhazam
Why give it to some gimped warrior when a paladin could use it?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Paladin weapon
评论来自
Allakhazam
Great axe to throw some lore into the mix. A weapon in Hellscream's name is something a lot of people are going to want, nice stats and DPS/speed. Could use some sockets though, I think.
评论来自
Allakhazam
dropped for us and shaman got it, no warrior in raid.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it tonight, and I msut say it kicks ass!
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://s179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/scared5/?action=view¤t=gorehowlsmall.jpg
Kind of a small pic, took a screen of our nightbane kill and one of our dps warriors had it out so I just cropped it up.
评论来自
Allakhazam
As a shaman im pretty lucky to have both of these weapons (Gorehowl + Decapitator), and now the debate, what is better dps, dual wielding Decapitator and an offhand from arena (88.5dps or sumthin). with gorehowl it goes from getting 7.1k wf crits (all 3 hits critting with Gorehowl) to 3.4k wf crits (all 3 hits critting with Decapitator)
评论来自
Allakhazam
as an enhancement shaman i reaaaaally wanted this when i dropped i could help but need, i won (woot!),the dps warriors weren't too happy, i got kicked from guild, i found another better one, the point? shamans if you need an item ROLL FOR IT
评论来自
Allakhazam
The buffs it got on the PTR make it pretty sweet now. My friend made a PvP video with it that looks pretty sweet:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_mDsCUOGCS0&mode=related&search=
评论来自
Allakhazam
Gorehowl has been buffed (and very rightly so) to a status that makes this, old, epic version pale in comparison.
It is legendary, with the tooltip "Still dripping with Mannoroth's blood" - Awesome!
Can't find pic right now though, will link when I find it again. =)
评论来自
Allakhazam
i want that wpn!
评论来自
Allakhazam
anyone got a picture of this axe?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Need this 4 my Enha Shammy, 37 Agi on 2H Axe is GREAT 4 me!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Come 2.1 this axe is gonna be buffed to mooncleaver's level (which is also gettinb buffed); pretty much all kara weapons are being buffed to be on the same level as season 1 arena/second stage BS weapons.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got this for my Shaman... YAY!
评论来自
Allakhazam
As a Holy Pally, I rolled against an MS warrior who happened to be in our group. It was a substantial upgrade for him, but I just wanted to see what this would look like with +40 spell damage.
Eat it sucka Warriors!
But since I don't like 2 handers, I Disenchanted it the next day after I got bored with it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This would acctually be a viable pally retadin weapon. It has a slow attack speed and high dps. So yeah this weap isn't only for a warrior.
评论来自
Thottbot
this is a very nice axe and nothing 4 hunters. (i�m a hunter)
This mighty weapon of one of the greatest heros of warcraft looks identic to the drawings and cinematic arts of groms axe...
i think this axe should be a little bit stronger...it�s one of the first weapons out of the warcraft history in game...a masteraxeshmith axe shouldn�t challange it.
sorry 4 my bad english ;)
<= waiting 4 weapons of historical characters
评论来自
Thottbot
Grom Hellscream was no bloody hunter.
He did not have a pet neither did he wear a shield. He didn't cast no spell nor hid behind some $%^&* magic bubble.
Grom Hellscream was a warrior, who slew an elf god and a great demon. He freed himself of the blood rage by pure brute strength.
Pay a little respect and let this axe go to warriors worthy of it.
评论来自
Thottbot
i really wonder how selfish and dumb some of you hunters can get. why even want this when you can get a better weapon with a simple quest reward like
Terokk's Quill
or Sonic Spear from Shadow Lab. Gorehowl is a waste on a hunter, even for the hunter.
评论来自
Thottbot
I got pwned by an orc with this in WSG , he really did it proud, was running around destroying everything while carrying the flag (ala hulksmash).
3200 MS crit on my plate , ouch.
评论来自
Thottbot
Lol this is hilarious...most everyone here is yelling at invisible people who havent even said things like "hunter weapon". As a hunter myself, this thing is crap for us. (to make things clear)
评论来自
Thottbot
Why does Prince Malchezaar even possess this axe?
评论来自
Thottbot
To all hunters:
You are ^&*!@#ed if you bid on this weapon. What are you gonna do with it? Wing clips for 300 dmg instead of 200? Raptor Strikes for 800?
Seriously, learn to play your class. If you truly want to use this weapon, roll on another class cuz this ain't for you.
To all guild masters:
You are #$%^&*ed if you allow a hunter to outbid in dkp or take this item over a warrior, paladin or shaman. If the paladin or shaman are ok with their intellect, they should be able to take this, no questions asked.
Note: Hunters, if you dont like Rogues / Fury Warriors taking your ranged weapons for dps ( loads of attack power / crit rating / hit rating ), please respect them by not trying to take their melee weapons.
Note #2: With the expansion, the stats on the hunter are shared by a small % with the Pet, but even that is not worth to allow a hunter to take it.
I have a hunter and i would NEVER roll on this weapon.
Jesus Christ, it's always the same damn discussion.
评论来自
Thottbot
Alright, Here is how it works, To set the record straight, I will now go through all four classes, one by one.
Hunter: A bad hunter, usually, will argue that they can use ANY weapon. I've seen hunters roll on an ASHBRINGER, because he said he needed a good melee weapon for PVP. Alright, This is utter BS. Hunters, name the last time you were dumb enough to get close to that warrior and his cleave of deathness? Exactly, you cant. Send in the pet, Run away, Set trap, run away, And blast them all the while. If you EVER use your melee weapon, Its for a wing clip, or somthing similiar. True, your pet can share a small portion of your stats, and TRUE, this weapon has some +agi...But face it. This is a weapon for either, Majorly, A paladin or a warrior, warrior being the majority.
Shaman: Yes, you can use it. And, If you're the only one in your group who wants/needs such a thing, More power to you my friend! The truth is, though, I've never grouped with a shaman who uses a 2H weapon, let alone a 2h axe. Its always dual wielding for better stats and DPS, stacked with your totems for 1vs1 manhandling. A 2h axe, Other than for looks, just isn't much good for you.
Paladin: A retribution spec paladin, With enough int on their plate gear, could feasibly roll for this. A level 70 paladin with a 93.2 DPS weapon, And Avenging Wrath up, Can easily score judgement ratings from righteousness or command for 500+, Crits of 2.4k+, And if the enemy is demon or undead, Consistently more with holy attacks thrown in. Crusader Strike, Of course, is another of the melee paladins abilities. A good ret paladin, with 300+ strength, A good 7+k of mana, Could easily wield this as a competent DPSer, both in battlegrounds, and in any dungeon in outlands or Azeroth. I say this playing a 70 ret paladin. But, I also say this. The priority 1 for this weapon is, and always will be, a warrior.
Warrior: Here we have a class that is made for two things. 1, Taking damage. 2, Dealing Damage. In a battleground, The warrior cuts them down and maintains a healthy amount of player hate (Aggro) By killing everyone he sees in a maddening rage. In a group, The warrior maintains threat level by dealing damage, stacking bleeds and sunders, clipping speed and attack, And, overall, Hammersmashing their enemies into oblivion. Hunters are right out on this. Shamans, For the most part, have no need for it. A paladin without a BS mastery, Could very feasibly use this as their endgame weapon. But this blade will ALWAYS be a warrior priority, At least until level cap is increased again. After all. When I'm healing myself due to two crits, bubbling the priest, And offtanking the adds, I want the single strike the warrior manages to land on that charging, Somehow aggroed mob to be enough to piss it off completely enough that I dont end up dead a second and a half later.
评论来自
Thottbot
Between all this "omfg <insert class> wpn tbh lol l2p n00bs" spam I tought we might have a class in lore of warcraft.
This axe, Gorehowl was the axe of Grom Hellscream
of the Warsong clan. Those of you who have playd Warcraft III already knew this but however:
Grom used this axe when he defeated the mighty
pitlord, Mannaroth. The battle was his last
as he died pretty much instant after he killed him.
By killing Mannaroth Grom Hellscream freed the orc race from the Demon blood curse that had corrupted the orc race for years.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8648/gorehowlya5.png
Picture from WC III sorry about the poor quality :)
now you may continue your ever-lasting arguing about this &*!@ty weapon for all I care.
评论来自
Thottbot
Im a hunter and i got this since no1 wanted it.
I have to say from ice barbed spear with 35 agi.. i put a savagery on this and i gained about
+210 hp
+40 MAP
- 35 ap
- .40% crit
+ 500 more dmg on my raptor strikes.
I tell you its awesome for PVP for a hunter.. nothing better then 3.5k aim shot followed by a 2.5k multi to have a mage blink into u for a nice taste of 2.5k gorehowl.
But under no circumstances should us hunters take this over a warrior or pally or shaman. Ever
i simply took it because no1 wanted it and i was curious for pvp.
So hunters
if NOOOO1 wants it.. take it for pvp.. its godmode.
评论来自
Thottbot
Dude, all of you need to stop the arguement of why Prince Malchezaar has come to own Gorehowl.
Let's just say that Gorehowl dropped and he had enough DKP.
评论来自
Thottbot
I cant undertand why blizzard wont make legendary weapons legendary, this weapon freed the entire orc race... Grommash Hellscream's axe
评论来自
Thottbot
Pri 1 - Warriors (arms spec and savagery enchant, not mongoose)
Pri 2 - Pallys
Pri 3 - Enhanc shaman
Pri 4 - Hunters (go for Legacy, a meele hunter is a dead hunter)
Paladin DPS is like the female orgasm. Some claim it's a myth, many try to make it happen and have no idea how, and most movies of it are fake.
评论来自
Thottbot
imo this a bad hunter wep
评论来自
Thottbot
I don't care if this was an upgrade for the hunter and no one else wanted it.
There is Nothing, and I mean nothing good about this axe for a hunter at that level.
Seriously, Terokk's Quill is better than this crap, and if you don't believe me, go look it up.
if this was an upgrade for a hunter, he shouldn't be running kara.
Legacy, Amazing hunter axe.
Gorehowl, NO.
Take it from a hunter who somehow ended up with it.
I bet the Garadar innkeeper is pretty damn happy right now, she got the Legendary Axe of Grom Hellscream for about 13g
wewt!
评论来自
Thottbot
uh...
you're comparing a kara drop to the legendary bow of the hardest boss in the entire game.
评论来自
Thottbot
well first of all GOREHOWL should go to fury warrior if u got one in group if not arms warrior if not ret pally and dont bicth bout iit if fury warrior has gorehowl and needs it cuz deul weilding 2 OF THEM UR JUST JEALOUS.
评论来自
Guruharu
Good source of void crystals. Wish something actually useful would drop from Prince, though.
评论来自
avazus
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