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In regards to kaleesh's comment, why do you hate the forsaken? They are the victims. How else do you expect them act when just about every other race has openly decided they have no right to exist? Not only that but they have set out to eradicate them. I guess they could have decided to just take it, but then would any one play a race that just accepts and unfair punishment? Her husband spent his life destroying basically an innocent people instead of spending it w/ her. She has every right to be ticked off. If anything you should hate the humans for their persecution of the forsaken. There is no FIXING it till they decide to stop hating them for no reason other than the fact that they are scary looking.

評論來自 360859

This is actually one of my favorite quests in the game, mostly because it's one of the few quests, if not only, whose ending seems to lack the sort of redemptive accomplishment common to tragedy-ridden quests.

Similar quests that come to mind with happier endings than beginnings (or at least some sense of redemption) would be the Mor'Ladim line in Duskwood, the Shady Rest Inn line in Dustwallow Marsh, and Tirion Fordring's line in Eastern Plaguelands.

This quest, on the other hand, lacks anything that could be considered redeeming. A woman wants you to return a pendant to the grave of her deceased husband, who died trying to protect her and her children from the one thing they ultimately succumbed to. Were it up to her, she'd rather forget he ever existed. Such an errand might possibly have proven cathartic, but even this is blunted and ineffective.

In the end you realize that Yuriv has passed beyond memory and will be forgotten forever. A very terrible fate for a husband and father who died trying to protect his family.

A sad quest with an even sadder ending, one of those kind that makes you end up hating the world somehow.

評論來自 datgrl

Got the directions to the Sepulcher from http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=3301

1. From Ogrimmar go east of the entrance to the Zepplin.
(Coordinates are 51,14). If you can't find it ask a guard
where the Zepplin Master is.

2. Locate Frezza at the top of the building. The dock
behind him should lead you to the Undercity (talk to him to be sure).

2a. If you wish, once you have gotten off the Zepplin
outside the Undercity head south into the city. Seek
out Michael Garrett, for your flight-plan. (Coordinates are 63, 58)
If you can't find him, ask a Undercity Guardian for the location
of the Bat Handler. You will need to take the elevator down a
level. Once you have it, return outside (you likely won't have
any flights to connect yet). This will make your return swifter.

3. South of where you get off of the Zepplin there is a path.
Follow this path southwest (the sign should point it out for you) to Silverpine.

4. Contiune down that path until you reach a fork. At this
point turn down the west path (check the sign post to be sure).
This path will take you to Sepulcher.

5. If you move pass the gates on this path you will see the
indicator on your map showing Mura Runetotem positions. She
is on the left side of the building(inn). (Coordinates 43, 42)

5a. If you got your flight-plane in UnderCity eariler, just
talk to Karos Razok, the bat handler and he can take you back
to Undercity.

評論來自 godded

DOES count for Loremaster of Kalimdor.

評論來自 292744

I loved this quest. Personally, I really find this sort of tragic tale very entertaining. And besides that, I think that this underlines one of the things most misinterpreted about the Forsaken, especially in regards to Deld's comment: the Plague changed them. Most of them turned their back on the Light. They are bitter, and hateful. All in all, they are probably one of the most contreversial and "see it from different points of view" kinds of things in the whole Warcraft universe.

Great stuff, really, for the kind of lore-jocky I am.

評論來自 cirena

So...why is the word "Betrayer" scratched on the grave? Anyone have any backstory? I'm intrigued.

評論來自 LoreMooster

This is one of the great "marble" quests (quest text with a marbled background to indicate it was more prominent) in the game. An interesting and sad story about the plague and the many that fought it. Just one of the many gems that the elitists of the game never see.

評論來自 rowaasr13

She's just a selfish $%^&* that wanted to have everything at once - husband attention, success, everything without ever thinking what others would have to do for it. And then she throws tantrum when she doesn't get it all. In short: she's just like every other Forsaken.

評論來自 821910

This gave me the shivers and made me wonder what's going on here really.

Clarice is in Mulgore; the gravestone's on another continent. It has been vandalised with the word BETRAYER. One could ASSUME it was her who did it, but...that seems pretty effin' stupid do me. Why would she call him 'betrayer'?

What I want to know is this: since it likely was not his wife, who scratched that onto his tombstone?

The wording is important here. Clarice absolutely does not say he betrayed her. She says he DITCHED her. Her big revenge against him, until you leave the necklace, is obviously leaving his grave alone the way she was left alone. (I'm not passing judgment on who's virtuous or a jerk here; I'm explaining how the lady feels, so chillax. XD)

So who's calling him a traitor? Who put those candles there?

Something freaky's going on here, but I'm not sure what. Could he have sold out to the Scourge under duress or torture? Was he like Rivendare, and he kind of got tempted and strayed bigtime?

What the hell happened here?

評論來自 Anevara

The descriptions sounds like he would maybe return as an undead after that. But i'm unsure because i usually only play alliance, if you ignore my blood elf.

評論來自 Xierthard

The Forsaken are the Undead who have freed themselves from the Lich King's control and have returned to their ruined home of Lordaeron. I understand that the Alliance may feel that Lordaeron is their city as it was once their capitol, but these are the farmers and the warriors who inhabited that city and land. The Alliance would have simply turned and "purged" the city as soon as their "alliance" had ended for the city. They hate the living because it was ingrained in their heads by the Lich King. He made them do those things, Sylvanas hated him passionately and he forced her into submission. Only were they able to free themselves when his control was weakened. The Forsaken rezzed after their freedom was won are you, the players. You do not hate life, do you? Even that girl who ran away when you tell or show her of herself she reacts with fear and shock, and the another kills himself, and another reluctantly realizes he is now dead and this is his fate, forever. Sometimes they turn out... damaged, like that character who runs up to you in Silverpine when you are trying to be a quest giver. He was retarded, for less of a word. He was meant to represent the noobs of the game; walking around with a constant flow of questions and not knowing why he was following the Banshee Queen only that she was his queen and he liked her and the Forsaken. It is not the Undead who hate the living it's Arthas. He made them do these things and now it is hard to break from that for those who served him, but yet it is nonexistent in those newly rezzed. They are simply facing and realizing that they are dead and this is all their existence will ever be.

評論來自 555344

I adore Clarice's quest. Abandoned over and over by a soldier when she begged him to stay home. If he had been at home maybe he could have protected her.

As is he is still dead and never managed to help anyone.

If you love someone, stay with them.

評論來自 radicarl

As of WoD, if you do this quest at level 90+ (possibly lower, though I have not tested it), you will not get gold, experience, nor guild reputation.

評論來自 joonjoon819

Accidentally ran into this quest when I ported to Thunder Bluff to get to my weekly Onyxia farming. It was well worth my time.

評論來自 1043898

Does not count for 銀松森林任務.

評論來自 Tequima

The inscription of the grave reads:

The word BETRAYER is crudely scratched over the finely etched epitaph that reads:
Yuriv lies here
Father, Husband, Paladin.
Let his children bear witness to the fact that his dedication to the Light was unquestionable.
He would never ask anything of them that he himself would not do.

Intriguing that whoever carved the inscription thought of the children, not of the wife (recalling the argument he had before he left home, that he talked to his colleagues about?).

As previous commentators noted, whoever carved Betrayer was not his wife (else why ask you to go there and place the jewelry) ... so what exactly did he do (or not do)?

One of those unresolved mysteries that only the designer knows the answer to (even if it is, that there is no answer)!

評論來自 Bonkk

My headcanon of what happened at the gravesite:

Our poor Clarice had been searching for her love ever since she reawakened. Clarice believes it was her love for her husband that brought her back as Forsaken, and hopes that Yuriv was similarly resurrected.

Only, when she finally found him, he had been buried in a grave.
When she first saw the sarcophagus, she screamed and fought, hitting it for denying her a reunion. and eventually hitting it as if it were Yuriv. Because, while she became Forsaken through her love for him, he was unable to do the same.
He didn't come back because he didn't love her.
THAT was the betrayal.

Once her fury was spent, Clarice scrawled the word across the grave, and left for far away lands, trying to start her life anew, alone.
But she kept hold of that pendant. One last memento of the man she loved, and one last shred of hope.

When you finally lay the jewel on the grave, that is the final acknowledgement of Clarice's capitulation, her abandonment of hope. And in that moment, the jewel dulls, a cold breeze flows, and *something* is over.

I believe that Yuriv DID love his wife, very much. but ultimately he was buried in a heavy stone sarcophagus, and Clarice never managed to detect him inside, undead and confined to a coffin. Her hope was the only thing keeping him around, and when she finally abandoned it, he released his spirit.
He fought on the front lines to protect his family, and when he failed, his love for her brought him back. He never betrayed her.

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直到死亡把我們分離

把克拉莉斯的墜飾放在銀松森林尤瑞夫的墳墓上。

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太過份了!他因為那該死的十字軍離開了我，說什麼「聖光是我們用來與不死族抗爭最重要的東西。」

那麼，他的孩子呢?我呢?我日復一日地等他...一直在默默地支持著他那該死的職責!

好吧，看看「正義」帶給你的一切，<name>!他已經死了，而我卻成了他曾經想要阻止的人!

把這個垃圾放到他在瑟伯切爾的墳墓上吧。我不想再跟這個東西...或是他有任何聯繫了!

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