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Before accepting this quest or Gelkis Alliance (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=1368) it is a good idea to check the rewards for the final quest in the series since you can only complete one series without taking a lot of effort faction grinding after finishing one series.

The rewards for the Gelkis Alliance series are:
-Gelkis Marauder Chain (mail chest: 14 agi, 7 str https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=6773)
-Uthek's Finger (off-hand: 5 stam, 5 int, 5 spi https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=6774)

The rewards for the Magram Alliance series are:
-Magram Hunter's Belt (leather belt: 8 agi, 9 stam https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=6788)
-Ceremonial Centaur Blanket (cloak: 2 int, 9 spi https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=6789)

評論來自 808

Personally, I never saw a reason to do either set of quests. The rewards weren't all to good, there were no notable vendor goodies, it made a portion of the map that you could previously pass through unharmed inhospitable, and within a few levels you'd pass out of the zone and on into Feralas/Tanaris/Searing Gorge/Wherever.

If you're gonna grind rep, wait untill you're approaching the endgame, when the rewards are worth it.

評論來自 6786

I personally saw this particular questline(as a hunter) as a perfect way to grind XP from lvl 30-40, desolace was my home, and you have to admit that you grind better when there is some reward looming overhead, I think this quest was tottaly worth it IMHO

評論來自 kreghx

Well I'm glad, Iwanted to grind all day. This quest at 34, 84 was boring long, and that other quest the grekin one.. the xp was awful. not worth it. I hope this one is better when I'm done.

評論來自 10100_

Here's an overall of the quests and their exp rewards...
- Magram -
:. Assault on the Kolkar .: 2550 exp. Difficulty: Easy at proper level.
:.Broken Tears.: 2850 exp. Difficulty: Easy at proper level.
:.Gizmo for Warug.: 2050 exp Difficulty: Damn easy, may cost you some money.
:.Khan Shaka.: 2850 exp Difficulty: Moderate, may require a group.
:.Khan Hratha.: 1700 exp, and rewards mentioned in above posts. Difficulty: Moderate - Difficult depending on level and class. May require a group.
Total EXP: 12000

- Gelkis -
:.Raid on the Kolkar.: 2550 exp Difficulty: Easy at proper level
:.Stealing supplies.: 1350 exp, 18 silver in quest rewards Difficulty: Easy at proper level
:.Ongeku.: 2850 exp Difficulty: Difficult. The camp where Ongeku is crowded, and they're all runners.
:.Khan Jen.: 2850 exp Difficulty: Moderate.
:.Khan Hratha.: 4300 exp Difficulty: Difficult.
Total exp: 13900

Although the Gelkis quests are a bit harder, they do seem to yield more exp and there's some extra silver from one of the quests. I honestly don't know why the final magram quest yields less exp than the gelkis final quest. They're both the same. >_>

評論來自 46104

yo i have completed killin the mobs for tthe quest ''magram alliance'', but now where do i turn in the quest?
wheres Warbug or w.e?

評論來自 25953

NPC to turn in the quest is at 74, 68 at the top of a small hill with a campfire.

評論來自 64374

Warug was at 74,68 when I did it (using Cosmo cords).

評論來自 69592

These quests, imo, aren't worth the time. They send you far for one quest (travelling to Swamp of Sorrows might not be worth it for you), or involve wasting moeny (getting the dummy) - the whole quest chain isn't possible to solo unless you're at a higher level, like early 40s, and by then, you should be at Tanaris, Feralas, Hinterlands... whatever.

The Gelkis/Magram schism is interesting, but not neccessary if you want to grind in Desolace. It's a cool zone and you don't need to do these quests to grind there. The rewards are greens - nice greens, but not worth your time.

評論來自 84183

Long tedious quest. Not worth it.

評論來自 96168

Gelkis clan located in the vicinity of 37,80

評論來自 Vashra

Personally, If you just want to "grind" xp, I think it's more fun to do daily pvp quests. I haven't done these quests because I didn't see a point. The gear is mediocre at any level you could possibly get it, and 12k xp just isn't that hard to farm other ways that are more satisfying.

評論來自 79622

Ok, since i found this quest extremly confusing (yeah i gotta be stupid ;D) and didn't get any help from reading the comments posted here i'll just make my own little tutorial ;D

To get friendly rep with the Magram Clan Centaur you have to kill these NPCs:

These will all give you a +20 Rep with Magram Clan Centaur and -100 Rep with Gelkis Clan Centaur.
You have to kill 50 of these to reach Friendly rep with Magram Clan Centaur, at this point you will NOT have Hostile rep with Gelkis Clan Centaur, you will be at 0/3000 on Unfriendly. Then you just turn it in at Warug.

The quest will give you:
725xp (@Lvl32)
+250 Rep with Magram Clan Centaur
-250 Rep with Gelkis Clan Centaur

It's a pretty easy quest since these guys won't attack you unless you attack first, but they WILL pull eachother if you let a fleeing one run to his allies.

Hope this helps anyone ;P

Edit: Fixed some links and added reward.

評論來自 Zuluhn

Can u do the Gelkis Alliance quest after finishing the Magram Alliance Quest?

評論來自 Thottbot

This quest ends at 75.68

評論來自 Thottbot

Unsure if it was worth it to do this quest...I only got 650 xp....and well that was a crapload of centaurs I had to kill...

評論來自 Thottbot

i need the cords. of gelkis vilage...those ho i need to kill.tnx in front

評論來自 Thottbot

Gelkis are at 39.90 at Desolace

評論來自 Thottbot

Warug is located north-east of the village, on a hill. Look for a path that isn't to steep into the mountains. He will, of course, show up on the minimap when you get close enough.

評論來自 Thottbot

Coordinates are 36,79

評論來自 Thottbot

This ended at 74,68 for me on a little hill with a fire going.

評論來自 Thottbot

Confirmed. He is at 74,68

評論來自 Thottbot

First you have to remove the sword icon from your reputation bar with the Magram and then kill a lot of Gelkis'. That's 20 points pr Gelkis so there will be a lot of killing...
When done, go to the Magram camp, behind the camp in the mountain, you will find the quest finisher. The waypoint is 75.68.
Now, I got some exp by killing all these Gelkis' but its no more than 240/250 a piece... Then i got 650 exp from finishing the quest. Found no fancy items on the Gelkis'...

I do not recommend this quest.. Skip it, its not worth the time.

評論來自 Thottbot

Can any body, put a map in or something? i can't find the place ?

評論來自 Thottbot

that first set of coor not even close, second set right on target

評論來自 Thottbot

Okay... I know everyone here is saying it's 20 rep per gelkis... my friend and I tho are only getting 4rep per gelkis. Has it changed since the patch, or are we just trying to do the quest when we're way too high in level for it?

評論來自 Thottbot

Coordinates confirmed as 74,68 for Warug.

評論來自 Thottbot

coords of the gelkis centaurs are like 39,90 and 35,90 and south of the 2 coords i jus said

not coords and genral directions:::

go west from mannorac coven on the path and take the first left...

or

go east on the path from shadowprey village and take the first right

follow the path down and you will see the gelkis centaurs.

your rep will be like 1100 check it by pressing c and then clicking rep on the bottom bar. the scroll down and it will say your rep with the gelkis and magram. killing the gelks should slowly get your rep up witht the maggram. you get 20 rep for killing each one and in the beginning your rep should be like 1000

you need to make approx 50 kills
gelks range from levs 33-35's the ones right to the south of the coords have minions

評論來自 Thottbot

In your character profile, under Reputation...

If you click the faction to look at a popup box gives you the option to have your rep with that faction displayed as a bar just over your experience bar so you can see your rep grow or drop each kill)

評論來自 Thottbot

If you really want leather armor or you find yourself questing in South Desolace often, choose to pick the Magram rather than the Gelkis. If you want mail armor or you find yourself questing in East Desolace often, go ahead and side with the Gelkis.
I would side with the Gelkis just because it's much easier to kill the Magram for rep or quests. The Gelkis are mostly in that cave (oh, how I hate that cave!) and the huge hole in the ground that's hard to kill in. Magrams have water in their camp true, but all the more reason to pick them. No close-quarters fighting for you casters, and flee into the water if you get too many adds.
In reality, it's all up to you.

評論來自 Thottbot

have to say as a lvl 33 druid this is annoying. you have to kill so many i would skip but im already close to finish.

評論來自 Thottbot

Look for the fire on the hill to the left beyond the water

評論來自 Thottbot

the best thing to do is this chain quest and once ur all done do they Gelkis Allance

評論來自 Thottbot

I dont think like u! I thougth this was fun and worth it!

評論來自 Thottbot

The screenshot is accurate for those who don't use coordinates.

評論來自 Thottbot

Well i think that this was a pretty worthless quest

評論來自 Thottbot

he is at the cords 74.68 but its not worth it. only got 650xp. very sad:(

評論來自 Thottbot

Why anyone would choose this quest chain over the Gelkis alliance is beyond me. There are zero rewards and the last quest in the chain you have to hunt down an Eng to make an advanded target dummy which can cost money.

The gelkis chain you get Exploding Shot, Feathered Arrow, or Silver Star. The first two are sweet. They have NO lvl requirement and are not soul bound. Seriuos hunter twink items.

評論來自 Thottbot

Okay I already did the Gelkis Quest line and had a Hated rep with the Magram.

So I clicked the At War Icon with the Gelkis and started killing.

It took ~7 hours, at least 5.5 of constant killing. I actually sat there that long. At lvl 42 you only get 4 rep for centaurs below lvl 34.

Well happy days I can finally do a line of "gray" quests!

So much for doing every quest in the game, I already missed the Silk Donation Quest Line...

評論來自 Thottbot

Did this quest at lvl 39, spent 45 minutes on this quest and it only gave me 525xp, drop the quest...its not worth the time, unless you specically need something in the series of quests.

評論來自 Thottbot

I think that the reputation changes are extremely disproportionate. 50:100 would be more like it. But then again, the longer we keep playing, the more money Blizzard makes...

評論來自 Thottbot

Dont do this quest....its not worth the time.

評論來自 Thottbot

...did this quest at lvl 30

few tips:

1. if ur low lvl kill the 32s 33s and 34s the 35s seem killable but u miss a lot and they hit u a lot so skip them

2. when u get friendly with Magram DO NOT kill even a single 1 more Gelkis that way if u need to go back there for some reason they will be passive ( because u will be at 0/3000 unfriendly exp)

3. you have to kill a massive amount of enemies so i suggest bringing some friends to help u out so you can do this quest much faster

4. just dont do the quest in the first place

評論來自 Thottbot

This was a god quest for me to get Humar the Pridelord (my pet) lvled up but it was really hard since he barly hit them....

評論來自 Thottbot

DO NOT ALLY WITH MAGRAM UNLESS YOU'RE AN ENGINEER AND CAN MAKE ADVANCED TARGET DUMMY. You will need it for the chain of quests. Otherwise you'll have to buy it off AH for like 2-4 G. Totally not worth it.

評論來自 Thottbot

It is really sad when your XP bar goes up faster then the rep.... god i hate these kind of quests

評論來自 Allakhazam

I really, don't know what you people are talking about. This quest takes nowhere near 2-3 hours. I did it in 35 minutes (I know because I found an Agility II scroll on my first drop and was able to time it easily). Solo'd with a 32 UD Rogue with very little downtime between fights. Crippling Poison means mobs won't run to their friends when they are low on HPs, and with pickpocket I made around 1.5 Gold in the end. A little hint, untick the box that says At War with the Magrams, but keep the Gelkis one selected. Common sense tells me that if you are at war with their allies and friendly with the Magrams, they will befriend you faster.

Mobs are 32-33, with 34 Casters and their 29 Elemental minions, and some 36 deep in the area inside huts.

Edited, Tue Feb 22 15:27:44 2005

評論來自 Allakhazam

was curious what the benefits of this were,
Personally i did the other side and sided with the gelkis mostly
in character cause the magram are pretty bad, working with the undead yadda yadda. The gelkis side took me an hour and 15 but then i AM a druid so everything takes longer.

評論來自 Allakhazam

The quest takes nowhere from 1 to 2 hours. finished it solo as a lv30 undead lock in around 30mins and if the quest was that boring and you dirent like it then why finish it? O and the guy is at 74,68 hes hiden good but hes there

評論來自 Allakhazam

If nothing else, this helps you better understand the whole reputation concept. Plus, you get a lot of cloth, so you can get commendation points eventually.

I started around 37,80. They were level 33-34. It took me 50 kills to get my reputation. I would certainly advise taking a couple breaks and exploring a little to deal with the monotony. Get your flight Path from Shadowprey Village on the coast on the SW while you're at it.

Turn it in to Warug who is in the cliffs on the NE side of the lake in the Magram Village.

This increased my XP by about 35% which was great.

+725 XP
-250 Gelkis Clan Rep (Hostile)
+250 Magram Clan Rep

Level 35-36 Paladin

評論來自 Allakhazam

The follow up quest to this one is Broken Tears. You have to go back to the Gelkis Village and into the cave they have on the back mountian wall. Just inside there are large blueish white cyrstals you have to bring 3 of them back to Warug. The quest gives you 2650 xp and another quest. The next quest is called Gizmo for Warug you have to bring him an advance targetting dummy. I am still working on this one will update when I finish it.

Tohopka 33 Tauren Warrior

評論來自 Allakhazam

it didnt take me a while to get my rep up, but i cant find Warug to turn it in!

評論來自 Allakhazam

Ugh I cant find Warug to turn it in, can someone post Cords...please.

評論來自 Allakhazam

You know, for all the whining about this quest - it really didn't take that long at all. From what people here are saying I expected hours of painstaking grinding but it took less than an hour. Actually perceptually it didn't even really feel like I killed more of these than I would kill of any mob for any standard drop rate quest (collect 10 turtle meat, etc).

I think this is a case where the whine FAR exceeds the actual trouble.

評論來自 Allakhazam

I just finished this with a level 37 Orc Warrior, and maybe spent thirty-five minutes on it. I just killed all of the Gelkis I saw (probably around fifty, in total), and easily got the Friendly rating. I haven't turned it in, yet, so I am unable to comment on the reward.

評論來自 Allakhazam

I took both quests ,not being sure which way to go.As i ran thru the Magram Village nothing happened then after fiding the Gelkis two of the casters agroed me..(This made choice easy)
After killing one of these i checked Reputation page and both new factions were there.
Both were yellow ,Neutral and at war,so i removed the tick against Magram,started killing the Gelkis.
After about 20 kills there was a noticeable change in levels of factions, the name tags above the Gelkis had even gone from yellow to an orange colour.
Im guessing with this change after 20 it shouldnt take many more (lets hope so :p)

評論來自 Allakhazam

He's at 75,68

評論來自 Allakhazam

I've picked up this quest and yet I don't seem to have a reputation bar for either the Gelkis or the Magram Centaurs. Is there something I need to do before they'll show up or do I just need to start killing the Gelkis?

評論來自 Allakhazam

I did this quest on my main awhile ago and yes, it took about 2 hours of non-stop killing.

I'm about to try it again with my alt, so we'll see if it's any different. Going from Neutral to Friendly is a PITA when each kill is only a 'very slight increase'. I guess they're not the worst mobs to grind on since they drop cash, but it is still a grind.

評論來自 Allakhazam

well im glad iwanted to grind all day .... this quest at 34, 84 was boring long... and that other quuest the grekin one.. the xp was awful. not worth it. i hope this one is better when im done

評論來自 Allakhazam

74,68. Hes tucked away northeastern part of the camp.

評論來自 Allakhazam

Had to kill about 50 for Magram to become friendly to me at level 40.

評論來自 Allakhazam

From the previous posts, it looks like the key to this quest is to do it in a group at a lower level rather than wait until a higher level and solo it. I did it last night as a level 33 Warrior grouped with a level 32 Shaman. It took a while, but nothing like the figures some have been quoting. I would guess about half an hour.

評論來自 Allakhazam

I just finished this quest as a lvl 35 Mage, and it took about 30 minutes to become friendly. Didn't get a single drop, green or blue.

評論來自 Allakhazam

Warug is at exactly 75,68.2 u should see him on ur map as a gold dot.

評論來自 Allakhazam

It's a good grinding place and a blue dropped for me as well.

評論來自 Allakhazam

I chose the Magram Quest, and I am crossposting for possible relevance. I counted the number of Gelkis kills, and checked my rep before and after I started and did a few calculations.

0.0026 rep decrease with Gelkis Clan per Gelkis Clan centaur killed at lv 37. 0.0077 rep increase with Magram clan per Gelkis clan centaur killed at lv 37. if you take this quest at lv 37, which is a lv 33 green for me right now, to go from 4.0 neutral to friendly (at 5.0) for Magram it will take 130 centaur kills. If you get the quest at a lower level, it will take 35 or so centaur kills, per firsthand accounts by groupies.

You can do your own calculations by checking the Reputation tab on your character.

Edit1: I am sooooooo dumping this quest... currently at 4.7166667 (Neutral) with Magram Clan, and 1.8319444 (Hated) with Gelkis Clan. At this rate, for me to get to 5.0 (Friendly) with Magram, I will need 0.2833333 increase in rep. With my calculations above, and I've been getting 73 or so xp per kill (hardly leveling material), it will take me 36.79 more kills to reach friendly, or 37 kills.

Edit2: Hrm. maybe I will tough it out. 37 kills, with about 68 copper per kill (guestimate), gives me 2516 copper = 25 silver 16 copper. on third thought.... I'm going to STV.

Edited, Fri Mar 4 17:47:04 2005

評論來自 Allakhazam

It took me about 20 minutes to get my reputation up to friendly killing Gelkis. This was me as a 32 rogue grouped with a 37 warlock.

評論來自 Allakhazam

Depends on your class or not if you wanna grind fast. Tbh I wouldnt bother.

評論來自 Allakhazam

I have to admit this quest was pretty tedious, but I'm a 31 blood elf hunter and I had no problem with this quest, i got about 12500 exp just from killing the Gelkis, I havn't handed it in yet but even if it ends up being 250 exp like someone said it was (which I doubt it will be) I'm happy with the exp I got from grinding. In the end I killed about 50 Gelkis' but again, it was easy. They range from lvl 33-35, oh and i got about 80s, all and all not that bad of a quest.

Best part of this quest is the first 20 or so Gelkis you kill, don't aggro since your neutral with them, easy as pie :)

Edited, Jul 5th 2007 8:06pm by KiyleSpee

EDIT: handed it in at 74, 68 and got 650 exp :) purdy good!

Edited, Jul 5th 2007 8:18pm by KiyleSpee

評論來自 Allakhazam

I didn't enjoy this quest at all. Made me feel like I was farming, only with really crappy silk drops. I takes at least 2 hours to get your rep up and then there is no reward. I hope the post quests get better.

評論來自 Allakhazam

I am about to start on these quests, and as it would cost a lot of time to do the Magram and then the Gelkis, which do people prefer? Is there any advantage to befriending the Magram over the Gelkis or vice versa?

評論來自 Allakhazam

I killed the Gelkis at lvl 32 nothing good for drops other than silk and $. I did not have to kill all that many maybe 40-50 of them, my problem is finding Warug to turn in the quest. Only issue I have are the lvl 39-40 birds and scorpions in the area as they wind up killing me when I run around to find Warug!

評論來自 Allakhazam

after Gizmo for Warug you have to kill the Khan. Just bring a friend and it will be easy.

Then comes the hard quest. Kill the Maraudine Khan. i did it 3 times before getting key fragment i needed. questline is really not worth it.

評論來自 Wyr3d

I read through the advice given for both chains, and considered the gear rewards, but to be honest, what is most important is the XP, right? Naturally, the Alliance scum get more in the chain (typical Blizzard) than the awesome Horde with the faction introduction quests.

(Alliance)
Brutal Politics - 2,050xp
Assault - 2,550xp
or
Strange Alliance - 2,050xp
Raid on the Kolkar - 2,550xp

(Horde)
Gelkis Alliance - 660xp
or
Magram Alliance - 660xp

(Both)

Gelkis Questline
Stealing Supplies - 1,350xp
Ongeku - 2,850xp
Khan Jehn - 2,850xp
Khan Hratha - 4,300xp and this or this

Total = 12,010xp

Magram Questline
Broken Tears - 2,650xp
Gizmo for Warug - 2,050xp
Kahn Shaka - 2,850xp
Khan Hratha - 4,300xp and this or this

Total = 12, 510xp - but costs the price of one Advanced Target Dummy server dependant (1gold 30silver on my server - not worth 500xp)

Basically, Alliance scum get more XP than Hord regardless of the chain you pick, or if you're crazy and grind back rep to do both chains. Magram rewards an extra 500xp, but you'll need to pay out some cash for it, so factor this into your choice. The gear rewards are pretty meh, and it's likely you have better - but if you somehow have worse, it might be worth it to you.

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瑪格拉姆族的聯盟

和瑪格拉姆族建立良好的關係，然後和瓦魯格談話。

	瑪格拉姆半人馬（友善）

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要擊敗半人馬，我們就必須利用牠們的仇恨天性來對付他們。我們先跟其中一支半人馬氏族結盟，再透過牠們學習如何打敗其他的半人馬族。

如果你選擇和瑪格拉姆族結盟，那麼就去殺掉他們的敵人—吉爾吉斯族。這會使你獲得瑪格拉姆族的尊重。當你得到足夠的尊重之後，就可以去見瑪格拉姆族的首領瓦魯格，他就在淒涼之地東南部的瑪格拉姆村外。

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250 點瑪格拉姆半人馬聲望

輸入以下代碼查看此任務是否已完成

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(1367))

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