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This polearm needs itself a serious buff imo. Comparitively,
the alliance version of this weapon is as such:

Verigan's Fist
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=6953
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Mace
65 - 99 Damage Speed 3.20
(25.6 damage per second)
+7 Stamina
+6 Intellect
+12 Spirit
Durability 100 / 100
Classes: Paladin

Allthough the stats on our polarm are better for a ret paladin then that of Verigan's Fist, which is what the majority of people would spec to level, there is a 6.9 DPS difference between the Horde and Alliance version, mind you that they both require the same questline. At level 20, that seemingly small difference is in reality a huge amount.

Playing both an Alliance and Horde paladin, the Alliance's mace is amazing for its level, with above average crits for a mid 20 character. This one is really only SLIGHTLY better then the Sin'dorei Warblade from Ghostlands.
( https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=22995 )

The stats are fine, at most this could at least use a small DPS boost, especially considering we have to pay up a gold to learn the polearm skill, and alliance paladins start with a 2h mace skill, not to mention that we are doing the same amount of work for a worse item.

Комментарий от Almaak

I totally agree with Knoxpwns..

However, from a game lore point of view, the Blood Elves are stealing their Paladin powers from a kidnapped Naaru. The Alliance have been Paladins for alot longer, and in all fairness, the Blood Elves are new to the whole Paladin thing.
We all remember a time when there was no such thing as a Horde Paladin...

Just some food for thought.

Комментарий от 86693

the part in black fathom deeps drop off naga's not any special bosses so remember to loot. The SFK part leads u to a guy in a cell. when u ask him more about the item he turns into a werewolf so if u wanna avoid that. i can tell you that the item is in the stable in the yard.

Комментарий от Fullpower

This quest is proof that Blizzard hates horde.

Комментарий от epballer

The DPS on this weapon sucks for this level.

Комментарий от 47990

I've had both alliance and horde pallies, and I am disappointed at this. Verigan's fist lasts so long for the alliance pallies, this thing is a POS compared to it. Like in the post above, not much better than Sin'dorei. I wont go out of my way to do this quest.

Комментарий от 85906

This isn't as good as the alliance version because the alliance version is harder to get. Doing Deatholme and RFC is a lot easier than VC and the ogre camp in loch modan. Horde also have a much easier time getting to SFK; ally pallies have to find a group willing to run all the way from Ironforge to Silverpine.

Комментарий от 131999

To the guy who said blizz hates horde:

lvl 10 - wingblade 15.4 dps
lvl 15 - sindorei warblade i forget the dps
21 - outlaw sabre

22 - warsong supplies armor

Blizz loves the horde :)

Комментарий от 151966

i agree they need to buff this weapon.. the stats are okay but the dmg is garbage. I got a 2h axe from SFK that serves me better. I just got cause it looked cool. But that pretty much all its good for at this level.

Комментарий от 90666

Well the upside to this weapon is that its a good way to keep your Polearm skill up to snuff.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Why are you complaining? It's good for the xp. And the stats aren't anything to wrinkle your nose at, either. If you're not one to use polearms, then either...

a. Don't do it.
or
b. Do it for the experience, like I did.

Plus, in typical Blood Elf fashion... it's a rather decent looking weapon.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Sin'dorei Warblade:
18.2 dps
+10 strength
+4 stamina

Blood-Tempered Ranseur:
19.7 dps
+6 strength
+9 stamina
+6 intellect

The polearm has better damage, as the 4 strength doesn't make anything near 1.5 dps and gives more health and mana, being 5 stamina and 6 int more.
The only reason the Warblade is "better" is because you can get it before 20, making it suitable for a 10-19 WSG twink.

Комментарий от Thottbot

allaince full of kiddies, it's proven

Комментарий от Thottbot

Great Polearm i love it so yeah stop complaining

Комментарий от Thottbot

K, I've read all the comments listed below and all I got to say is, holy crap people are really retarded, honestly you guys are arguing if this weapon is a waste of time, most blues are worth while even if they're not the best at that lvl, the reason why'd you even go after this weapon would be for the xp and knowing you did your "pally quest" Blizz just doesn't throw in random quests for the fun of it, they put in this quest as a lvl 20 filler, and also to give the player an interesting time, don't know about you but I loved going to places like BFD at 20.....

Комментарий от Thottbot

polerm its much better than son'dorei warblade its got lower speed and much better stats and dps! So if u like sin'dorei warblade better than polerm just swich wep ;D

Комментарий от Thottbot

So where do we go next for paladin quests?

Комментарий от Thottbot

yeah.. i dont get why the allies reward is so much better?

Комментарий от Thottbot

cuz they rushed with bllod elvs and dranei

Комментарий от Thottbot

yup any exp is good exp...and this is a good looking weapon too, u may not neciserally need it but u can show it off to the people that u hate lol

Комментарий от Thottbot

my friend gave me a beastslaying upgrade on it and it very good for taking beast out with it so i like it. and haveing them hotkeyed on the top bars the ssindori pr how ever you spell it and the pole arm is very good

Комментарий от Thottbot

ok one question do i get the warblade before 20 or at 21 becouse i searched it and it requires lvl 21 wtf is with that? and im twinking a horde pally so i need to know do i get it before 20 or after?

Комментарий от Thottbot

thottbot sugests a lvl for every quest depending on the lvl of the strongest mob that is required to either kill or get past the quest is obtainable at lvl 15 as it is a chain quest and at no point will it cut you off due to lvl requirement much like a class quest you can get the sword as soon as you can kill the insane undead blood elf.......man why is every blood elf insane is this game

Комментарий от Thottbot

How do you get a stupid RELIC i can find one at weapons or armor and it is a pain
HELP!

Комментарий от Thottbot

which is better the sin'dorei blade or this? plz i really need some help. i know the blade has better attack and strength but the polearm has better dps and int and alot more stam (and as a tank i could definitly use health)

so which is it? plz help me

Комментарий от Thottbot

You people who are complaining about having to switch to polearms are spoiled. Last mmorpg i played you had to spend 134 hours training in your weapon class to make it worth anything, and that was at low lvl, training your polearms at lvl 20ish takes 20 minutes so quit complaining.

Now to those of you who use 1 handers, im prot and i run around with a 1 hander and shield for multiple mobs and tanking, and use a 2 hander for most lvling situations. You'd be surprised the dps difference it makes and will help you lvl quicker and you can still use your trusty sword and shield when tanking, it only takes up 1 extra space in your bag.

Well those were my main thoughts after reading the other posts. Just my opinions i suppose though.

Комментарий от Thottbot

i agree it is kind of unfair horde doesn't get a better weapon than allince, but look at the 60 quest. Alliance has to do a LOT more than horde. Frankly I'd rather save myself the 1 1/2 dungeon run difference and just have a slightly subpar weapon for a lvl or 2
also i agree w/ the above comment, you don't really need to use shield +1h outside of an instance, (unless its some kind of outdoor elite 5-man quest deal)
btw Dwarf War, BE Pally, so neutral
(don't ask y i did a pally and a warrior, i'm not even sure)

Комментарий от Thottbot

well, u can always sell it..

Комментарий от Thottbot

I use the warblade only because I'm not quite ready to go after the polearm.

Комментарий от Thottbot

do you kno how boring this is? im trying to talk about the quest but instead all i hear is about childish allies and wep specs. stfu and talk about the !@#$ing q!

Комментарий от Thottbot

My brother was on my account, and he abandoned this quest.How can i get it back?

Комментарий от Thottbot

I never bothered with this quest... Post Patch 2.3 it is even more obsolete. Ran SFK for the first stop and that nice 2-hand sword drops. Better DPS then either Sindorei which I had or this polearm, so I went on with leveling... If you had someone to run you through them all though it would be good xp.

Комментарий от Thottbot

What about Arced War Axe? (you get it in SFK)

57-86 damage
21.7 dps
+10 strength
+9 stamina

Is that better than this polearm?

Комментарий от Thottbot

Dear everyone yelling about this quest, who cares? It seems you are arguing about a weapon that you will have for maybe 5 hours of game play until you find something better? Please, if you need to complain about this quest item, do so in barrens chat, because obviously you will never level beyond that.
thx k bai bai

Комментарий от Thottbot

I've got a new pally alt and was wanting to make sure this quest wasn't necessary for any kind of chain or anything before I dropped it. I'm gone many levels past it now, but was scared that it may be something I need for my class down the road.

Комментарий от Thottbot

If you want the hammer so bad, make an alliance pally, if you want the polearm make a horde pally....no sense in saying one is better than the other, it's all preference....now if you will all shut up I can get some sleep

Комментарий от Thottbot

yeah I use the quest line for EXP and then just use the polearm to scratch my ass. it gets those trouble spots quite nicely.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I use onyx claymore, it has some wasted stats in spirit but it's 9 stren and 5 stam, I'm also leveling as ret and it has better top end damage for SoCo.

Ониксовый клеймор

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i totally agree this is nowhere as good

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Wasn't able to upload a pic so ill just link one i took

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/necropentance/Polearm.jpg

Комментарий от Allakhazam

My pally is an alt, so i can afford to just buy something way better than this. Just wondering if i need to do this to be able to other Pally quests. Mount quest for example.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

We have a title, Blood Knights... pretty cool, what are you called? Warriors of the light? and I mean whats cooler, getting the skills thought by your trainer or STEALING IT FROM A PINK SNOWFLAKE? zomgpwnt? yes indeed, +5 to swords noob.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

nvm

Edited, Jun 7th 2007 9:11am by bosssmurf

Комментарий от Allakhazam

No where near as good as Verigan's Fist for Alliance-dins, Blizz shafting horde again, gg blizz screw you too

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Polearms? I was expecting a two-handed sword. Come on, this doesn't even compare to Verigan's Fist on the Alliance side. The Sin'dorei Warblade is a better weapon than this.

Edited, Jan 19th 2007 7:06pm by Oriette

Комментарий от Allakhazam

If you are rolling Retribution, you want the biggest, meaniest 2h weapon you can find. To hell with the DPS stat. Its all about the x-y damage with y being as high as possible. Your spells and talents feed off of the number to do bonus holy damage. I'm doing this because its a Paladin quest, but I have no interest in using this weapon.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

You can learn polearms from Ileda at 91,38 by the paladin trainers.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Verigan's Fist isn't even attainable until 28 if I'm right... you can start this at 20? Also Verigan's Fist is way longer and a bit harder to get.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

ZOMG... Well now I have a reason to start using my BE Pally again.. And I was having such fun wit my hunter.. :P

Комментарий от Allakhazam

though i haven't found it yet, i've been farming Gnomer for this 2H beauty for my pally: Gizmotron Megachopper
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=9490#00Rz

Комментарий от Allakhazam

No, i think is a good weapon, with good stats. The dps is better than shindorei warblade.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Verigan's Fist (Human's +5 to maces) (attain lvl 21) > Black Malice (lvl 16) > The Blood-Tempered Ranseur (lvl 20) > Sin'dorei Warblade (lvl 18, hardly any effort)

And as a hordie, I don't give a damn about how long the Verigan's quest line is. I 've gladly do a longer quest line, if the quest designers wasn't that lazy and made a longer one for a better reward.

Комментарий от nukchuu1

this weapon is only truly good for its looks and the xp for the questline other than that nope lol the Arced war axe in SFK is better for level 20 21.7dps, 3.30 speed, 10str and 9stam Изогнутая секира and you dont HAVE to level up your polearm skill lol Just me but ye

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