This item is going to be a hot ticket for Leatherworkers when it's released - it'll net them a lot of money. I know that I'll want one as soon as possible, and my friends will as well. I would personally expect some high prices on the Auction House for the materials, so either wait it out for them to go down, catch them early, or save up your gold.

Комментарий от Farmbuyer

Like somebody else said on the forums:

(existing) carrot + (existing) glove enchant + (existing) spurs = 10%
(new) riding crop = 10%

and the latter does not stack with any of the former. The idea seems to be that you no longer need to take up spots in your bag for just riding boots and riding gloves and a trinket; now you just have the one trinket. Sounds good to me.

Комментарий от Kharthus

Carrot/spurs/gloves gives 9.25%, so the trinket is slightly faster. If you can stack two of them, that would rock.

Комментарий от 17344

http://www.wowwiki.com/Riding_Crop I tend to trust wowwiki over most sites I visit. Take it for what it's worth.

* This trinket does NOT stack with other mount-speed increasing items.
* This trinket does NOT stack with mount speed increasing effects from spells such as Crusader Aura.
* It does give approximately 1.5% more mounted speed than the Enchant Gloves - Riding Skill/Mithril Spurs/Carrot on a Stick combo (and saves two bag spots).

This has been tested with visual comparison to other players with varying degrees of speed enhancing items as well as with speed measuring in-game mods.

Комментарий от delete

Just got this bad boy made. Cost me about 150g in materials but IMO it's worth it just for the extra bag space and not having to switch around so many items every time you mount. Highly recommended :)

Комментарий от 33234

This is quite usefull for skilling up Leatherworking. It doesn´t sell for much more than the price of the mats, but at least it sells which isn´t true for most of the other craftable crap.

Комментарий от Zarni

Multiplicative speed increase confirmed In following pic. Tested with Monkeyspeed.

http://i15.tinypic.com/2vif76t.jpg

same pic in sliber if that goes down:

http://www.slibe.com/image/35ed427c-Sliber/

Комментарий от 57763

2.1 brought the quest reward Skybreaker Whip (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=32863)

It's exactly the same as Riding Crop, but the thing is that they don't stack because blizzard has said that mount speed increase is capped at 10%.

This doesn't make the Riding Crop obsolete though because impatient people will buy one anyway. The quest reward above requires 300 Riding Skill (5,000 gold) and completing a quest line. The Skybreaker Whip is for the patient.

Комментарий от Toldry

This may sound like a stupid question but...

if i use this while in flight form? does it increes (sorry i don't know how to spell that word) my speed to? or do i have to buy a mount so it can be use full?

Комментарий от 74

could someone explain to me why the crusader aura is +20% if the cap is +10%?

seems strange.

Комментарий от Gargamell

Dunno bout you guys.. but my FuSpeed says +20% when using both crop, carrot, spurs and enchant

Комментарий от iceeagle

If u don't have the money for it try this q https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=11071 . The reward is https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=32863 , same speed bonus as riding crop.

Комментарий от Toldry

If you are a warlock and you want riding crop, just take it from your succubus.
NERF LOCKS

Комментарий от 22069

If you don't want to download a mod to automatically switch to this when you mount up, use the following macro when you mount and when you dismount.

/equip {trinket you usually put in your primary slot}
/equip Riding Crop
/use {your mount}
/dismount

This will equip the Riding Crop when you mount up and equip your regular trinket when you dismount.

Комментарий от dinnerbone

Looks like this, along with the other mount trinkets, are getting a huge buff & nerf all rolled into one ball of "Wait... what?" in 2.4.2
Any ideas?

Nope, they aren't going faster.

Or slower.

Two words: MOUNT. ENCHANTS.

Tooltip for the Riding Crop: "Permanently enchant a mount to increase its mounted speed by 10%. You may only enchant mounts in your own inventory, and enchanting your mount will cause it to become soulbound. Single use."

Unconfirmed changes according to http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=6699.0, might not make it into Live or even the PTR, but I'm still posting here in any case.

Комментарий от 148404

Riding crop is just like a pie .... make's u fly away.

Комментарий от arcaney

this is a fairly good trinket esspc. wen your running from the opposite faction sadly it dosnt stack with any other movement speed increasing effecst spurs-carrot on a stick exc also this is the best thing and cheapst way get your LW from 360-365 till you can make battle drums rest is alot of gold due to primals i helped a frined get his up they sale for 250g on my realm since im a 375 skinner and an enchanter the mats were fairly easy to get so i made gold and he got his leather working up i wish the rest of you luck on leather working and running from oppisite faction ;)

sorry for my bad spelling :P

Комментарий от 93181

One can only wonder how this affects the Gnomes' Mech striders or the engineering Flying Machines. Perhaps the same way smacking your TV makes it less fuzzy?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

decided to make one of these after I got the epic flying mount.

Farming the motes (for a guildy to convert to primal might) took less than 2 hours on Elemental Ridge (access by flying mount only though) above Altar of Elements in Nagrand and in Netherstorm for the mana.

My alt is an enchanter, so I had all the dusts and shard ready.

Noticeable speed difference :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Strawberrie on horde side Azjol-Nerub can make this. Send in game mail or whisper for pricing info!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Riding crop also work on flying mount?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

so does this stack with carot on stick ?
does it work on fly mount coz i dont see any diference, maybe im blind

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Check paragraph 3 under Additional information for different speed enhacements.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

From wowwiki.com

While this method does not stack with any other items which make mounts run faster, it does stack with a second copy of this trinket and class-related spells.

So according to wowwiki 2xRiding Crops stack, they just dont stack with spurs, carrote and gloves enchant.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Can craft these on Silvermoon - Alliance side. Cost all dependant on the market, or a small service charge if you bring me the mats =)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Im crafting and selling the Riding Crop at Arathor.

mail me ingame or /w me, judgef.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Used Fubar_SpeedFu for testing. Used running mode on even surface instead of flying to reduce glitches. (Sloped surfaces give incorect reading because there's no Y coordiante to put into speed equation).

Carrot on a stick, mithril spurs and gloves enchant provide a constant +15% speed. Meaning epic normal mount runs at 215% your running speed and non-epic flying gives 175.

Now the interesting thing is. When you equip the Crop - you get 176% on flying. With or without the other items.

Theory: 10% is not run speed dependant, but total mounted speed dependant.
Test: Using crop anly on normal epic mount gives 220% speed.

Verdict: You can put everything else in your bank until blizzard notices what they did :)

And now that I've tested it on an Epic flying mount, I get 418% speed. (100base+280mount)*1.10.

Edited, Mar 9th 2007 8:50pm by Shadowstray

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Bought it for 200g,started the CT stopwatch, ran the same distance with the trinket on, and without (Crusader Aura on both times) and i got the same results! DOES NOT STACK with Crusader Aura!
Give my 200g back :'(

Комментарий от Allakhazam

does it stack with hunter speed spec?
They said paladin aura. but what about us hunters?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I dont worry about enchants, spurs, or carrots until level 69 XD. Paladin' pursuit of justice rocks. sure if you have all those dodads and do hickeys your go faster than me but its by a very small margin. so *bleh* to you.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Crafting this on dunemaul US horde: PST Lifer for price.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

ok, as far as i can see, maybe im just lazy reading, but i get from this that it DOES NOT STACK WITH ANYTHING, auras, trinkets, and all that other BS... confirm plz, but i dont think it does, so im just keeping it...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Used Fubar_SpeedFu for testing. Used running mode instead of flying to reduce glitches.

Carrot on a stick, mithril spurs and gloves enchant provide a constant +15% speed. Meaning epic normal mount runs at 215% your running speed and non-epic flying gives 175.

Now the interesting thing is. When you equip the Crop - you get 176% on flying. With or without the other item.

Theory: 10% is not run speed dependant, but mount speed dependant.
Test: Using crop alot on normal epic mount gives 220% speed.

Verdict: You can put everything else in your bank until blizzard notices what they did :)

And theory would suggest that Epic mount will travel as fast as 418% total speed compared to your run speed. YAY! :D

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Right on Blizzard's web site they say "The Riding Crop provides a 10% speed boost to ground and air mounts. It does not stack with any other enchant or speed boosting object so once you have it, that's all you need. (Carrot on a Stick, you've served me well!)"

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/mounts/flying.html

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This sucks that it's not stackable >=( I'm gonna keep my carrot in hopes that blizz changes it. Doubtful though.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i have a question
since it doesnt stack with any other effects does that mean i can get rid of the crappy ass lvl 20 gloves with the enchant and stop worrying about spurs and sell my carrot once and for all?
blizzard says its all you need
so it sounds like the 10% from the crop is the same amount as carrot, spurs, and enchant put together
think its a better idea to keep the carrot gear? or sell it all and equip a crop?
and if theyre both the exact same speed, what would possess someone to spend 130g on a riding crop?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Anakage on Thorium Brotherhood can make this alliance side. PST in game :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

quoted from http://www.wowwiki.com/Riding_Crop

This trinket does NOT stack with other mount-speed increasing items.
This trinket does NOT stack with mount speed increasing effects from spells such as Crusader Aura.
It does give approximately 1.5% more mounted speed than the Enchant Gloves - Riding Skill/Mithril Spurs/Carrot on a Stick combo (and saves two bag spots).
This has been tested with visual comparison to other players with varying degrees of speed enhancing items as well as with speed measuring in-game mods.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

It doesn't work with druid flight form either, which really sucks. :(

Комментарий от Allakhazam

What does the crop cost total?

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I don't think this thing stacks, I just learned how to make it and it says "Unique-Equipped Trinket". Besides even if it weren't unique it would share the same global cool down so would be useless to have two.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I'm Crafting this on Dunemaul US Horde, your mats, PST in game. Acteon

Комментарий от Allakhazam

does this stack with any of speed enchants? i know not many ppl can answer this, but if u can (beta testers) pls do=) thx

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I want one, and not for the speed increase...

Also, from what I've heard it won't stack.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I can make this on lightnings blade, depending on the matsprice on the AH im able to make it for 190g on average - whisper me on my LW alt - Miyazaki

Комментарий от Thottbot

Checked with MonkeySpeed

Riding Crop does NOT stack with:
Glove Enchant, Spurs, and Carrot

It goes 1% faster by itself than all 3 combined.

Комментарий от Thottbot

sadly i can confirm, using monkey speed, that the riding crop does not stack with Crusader Aura.

oh well sad waste of mats.

Комментарий от Thottbot

By a blue post @ http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=74339557&sid;=1

They don't stack with anything, and apparently there are no plans to allow more than +10% through items

Комментарий от Thottbot

MonkeySpeed v2.5.1 shows speed increase due to Riding Crop is multaplicative, yielding 220% mount speed on an epic land mount.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Okay guys no one really said where you exactly get the pattern so I might as well explain.

You goto Caverns of Time Old Hillsbrad and you head to southshore. (Your desguised as a human so its cool for horde too) head to the dock and talk to the vendor there.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I am surprised at the amount of negative/dawdy post about this crop. I would think bag space is very valuable and people would easily prefer to get this rather than permanently sacrifice 3 spaces for carrot, boots with spurs and gloves.

I don't know about you by my riding gear is different from my normal gear which I suspect most people have in common.

I definitely think anything that frees up my bag space x 3 and adds an extra 1% is good. Isn't it better 1 extra percent than none?

Just me.

Комментарий от Thottbot

http://www.wowwiki.com/Mounts#Mount_speed

160%

200%

380%

410%

-- Speed --	---- Formula ----	-- Component --
100%	100	Base (common running)

100+60	75 rider, 225 (common 75/225)
176%	1.1(100+60)	75/225 w crop

100+100	150/300g (common 150, "epic")
220%	1.1(100+100)	150/300g w crop

100+280	300 aerial (common swift, "epic")
418%	1.1(100+280)	300a w crop

100+310	300 swift
451%	1.1(100+310)	300s w crop

The 310% swift netherdrake can only be obtained through the arena as a seasonal reward.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/mounts/special.html#misc

Most of us will have to do with the 280% mounts, when we get our 300 riding.

Комментарий от Thottbot

You're going to move faster and its the fastest speed enhancement around. That's it. End of story.

Just enjoy the game and put your calculators, fingers, toes, etc... away.

Комментарий от Thottbot

All you need to know about flying speed is written on Wow website just quoting:

"# Any item, effect, or enchantment that would affect land mount speed also applies to flying mounts. These include Carrot on a Stick, Mithril Spurs, Riding Crop, Crusader Aura, and the glove enchant for mount speed.
# The Riding Crop provides a 10% speed boost to ground and air mounts. It does not stack with any other enchant or speed boosting object so once you have it, that's all you need. (Carrot on a Stick, you've served me well!)
# The Paladin can travel faster than anyone else while using the Crusader Aura speed buff. This is a 20% boost to land and flying mount speed.
# When using the riding crop, the epic flying mount is only 10% slower than the flying mount taxis! The epic flying mount travel time can be significantly shorter than a taxi because you can take direct routes - as opposed to the scenic routes that the taxi normally takes. "

So i'll definetly get me a riding crop !

Комментарий от Thottbot

ok... there seem to be alot of people under the impression that the riding crop and cursader aura add the exact percent they say for example. with the riding crop "incresses mount speed by 10%" you think ok "so if im on my ground epic ill go 210% speed. (100%running+100%mount=200%+10%crop=210%)" WRONG! its is 10% OF 200% so you will be going 220% speed. (100%running+100%mount=200%total+20%crop=220%) same with crusader aura wich adds 20% you will be riding at 240% (100%running+100%mount=200%total+40%crop=240%) NOT the 220% (100%running+100%mount=200%total+20%crusader=220%) people seem to think.

for this reason speed increasing items/auras such as the riding crop or the crusader aura are more effective the faster the mount is naturally. because of course 10% of a number with a greater value would be greater than 10% of a number with a lesser value.

so if we apply this to the epic flying speed of +280% we find that with the riding crop you will be crusing at a nice 418% speed (100%running+280%mount=380%total+%38crop=418%)with the riding crop, and if your a pally well then lucky you because you will be flying at 456% speed! (100%running+280%mount=380total+%76crusader=456%)

now if any of you do not belive me or think "NO NO HES WRONG!." before you go and rate my post down and reply with your coments. i sugest you download an addon such as monkey speed, fubar - speedfu or titan speed and see for your self the numbers. then if you find anything wrong lets hear it.

in conclusion. the riding crop(10%) and cusader aura(20%) add the percent of the total speed (normal speed of running+what ever mount you are on) to your movment speed.

>PyRO< pyrosrage of malygos

Комментарий от Thottbot

Well I have CONFIRMED that riding crop will not simply add 10% to your increased mount speed.

The way it works is a little different than most people think, but it works out in our favor.

Most people believe that let's say we equip this with our 100% epic land mount, your mount will now make you go 110% faster. Right? WRONG

If you read the tooltip, it states quite clearly what it does. "Increases mount speed by 10%". So let's look at this logically. What exactly is your speed when mounted (we will use epic land mount as an example). Is it 100%? No, it is your walking speed increased by 100%. So in fact, your speed is 200% of walking speed.

So to increase your speed when mounted by 10%, you need to increase your total movement speed by 10%. This is done simply by multiplying your speed by 1.1 (increasing it by 10%).

So, if we do this (200 * 1.1) = 220%. So your total speed when mounted is 220% of your walking speed, which is 120% faster than walking speed. So in fact with riding crop on an epic land mount, you do not go 110% faster than walking speed, but in fact 120%.

Let's do this with another example, let's say our epic flying mount with a riding crop.

Well, we include our base speed of 100% walking speed, which when on an epic flyer is increased by 280%. So you are now moving 380% of your walking speed.

380 * 1.1 = 418%

Therefore your total speed when mounted is 418% of your walking speed. So your riding crop effectively increases your mounts speed increase to 318%.

This at first was hard to believe, but it made sense when I noticed myself going faster than a gladiator mount.

This was tested 100% to be correct by racing a gladiator reward epic flyer (known to go 310% faster) without a riding crop, versus a normal epic flyer WITH a riding crop. The results were very clear that the gladiator mount could not keep up with the epic flyer equipped with riding crop.

Hope this clears up some issues.

Cheers!

Комментарий от Thottbot

The pattern can be bought by a vendor in the Old Hillsbrad. just enter the dungeon even without a group and go to the village of Southshore via the roads following the signs. The guy is patroling from Tarren Mill to Southshore. I just waited him on the road at the town's entrance. His name is Thomas Yance and selling the pattern for 5g.

Комментарий от Boopyhead

Easy summary for people playing Classic!

There are 4 tiers of speed enhancements. These tiers DO NOT STACK WITH EACH OTHER, so if you have a better tier, you cannot get any of the bonuses from any of the lower tiers.

Tier A: Paladin's Аура рыцаря (+20% mounted speed), given at level 62 in TBC.
Tier B: Paladin's Погоня за справедливостью, Talent 3/3 (+15% mounted speed AND on-foot runspeed), requires 13 points in the Retribution talents. NOTE: Before TBC, in vanilla, it was only +8% speed and required 12 points.
Tier C1: Trinket Выкройка: ездовой хлыст (+10%), created by leatherworkers. Despite what you may think, it DOESN'T stack with ANY other items/enchants (from the lower tiers).
Tier C2 ("Free" Alternative): Trinket Бич усмирителя небес (+10%, Quest Reward), gained by learning Epic Flying at level 70, becoming Honored with the Netherwing, and defeating all of their races in the sky and defeating the final quest, Гонки Драконьей Пасти: капитан Небокрушитель (something a lot of players give up on due to the difficulty of beating the racers).
Tier D: The "vanilla WoW solution": Морковка на палочке (+3%, Quest Reward) and Формула чар для перчаток: верховая езда (+2%) and Чертеж: мифриловые шпоры (+4%) = Around 9%, but not exactly due to how multipliers stack, but it's less than 10%.

Hope this helps you!

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