In perhaps over 40 baron runs I saw Peacemaker drop only once. I need rolled over a Warrior for it even though I already had two Bone Slicing Hatchets.

Now I regret that I rolled for it because it only gave me an improvement of .3 dps ranged compared to the hatchets. Since two hatchets give you an agility bonus of +26, when you use Peacemaker you lose all that ag and the armor and dodge bonuses that go with it. Since my hunter is an orc I also lose the racial axe specialization bonus. Plus, hatchetx2 ag bonus is so significant my crit % is within .34 of percent of Peacemaker. Furthermore, if you really want to go crazy with ag you can put two +15 ag enchants on your hatchets and double what is possible with 2H Peacemaker or Barbarous Blade. Since Barbarous Blade is only slightly better than Peacemaker all of the above observations apply to Barbarous Blade in comparison to Bone Slicing Hatchets x 2.

Therefore, I fully recommend Hunters go for 2 Bone Slicing Hatchets when they start their Baron runs, and let the warriors have Peacemaker if they want it. I would hear arguments for a troll or tauren hunter using barbarous blade but for an orc its hatchets all the way. Now of course the uber hunter weapon is Doom's Edge with perhaps a Zulian Hacker in your off hand (the Bone Slicer still compares favorably to Hacker and is better if Hacker's enchantment lacks ag bonus) However, you will be relying on your trusty hatchets for a very long time before you see these other two axes drop.

~Tigerbaby

Комментарий от Thottbot

I'm a pally and I got both of them. I did a brief comparison on two polearms.

In terms of DPS:
Peacemaker 50.4 DPS + 56 atk pwr (appox. 4 extra DPS)
Blackhand Doomsaw 54.0 DPS
-I equipped them and check my DPS. I found I got 94.1 DPS w/ Peacemaker but only 93.4 w/ Blackhand Doomsaw.

In terms of Weapon Delay:
Peacemaker 3.4
Blackhand Doomsaw 3.5
-No big difference at all included SoC procs.

In terms of Effect:
Peacemaker 1% Crit
Blackhand Doomsaw Wound Proc on hit
- +1% Crit really makes a difference especially for class like Pally who has low AGI usually. I must have this equipped to pass 10% crit rate ToT.
- Blackhand Doomsaw rarely procs, sometimes it doesn't even proc once within 15 mins or so. However it can be deadly spike in PvP.

Final Consideration:
I prefer Peacemaker on PvE, because the proc rate of Blackhand Doomsaw is really too low and some NPC even immune to Wound and seems the proc can miss like melee attack.
I used to equip Blackhand Doomsaw on PvP, and I did hit over 1.5K with SoC crit + Melee + Weapon Proc.

Комментарий от Thottbot

This is an excellent alternative to a Barbarous Blade for hunters. Bone Slicing Hatchets are nice, but 2h weapons (especially slow ones like this) are better for PvP.

My friend put +25 agility on my Peacemaker, and I don't plan on replacing it anytime soon.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Got it on second Strath run. Warrior didn't need so I got it w/o any competition :)

Quite happy with this one. I don't think I'll ever bother getting BB over this, since I already put +25ag on it, plus Peacemaker looks much better on a female troll (large blades like BB are going through her cape and bottom :)), and polearm attack anims are so cool :)

To all hunters who get it, it's the best pre-epic polearm and second best pre-epic 2hander after BB so it's well worth +25ag. BB actually doesn't deal more damage (so Raptor Strikes are the same), it's only faster and has 4 more AP, which I guess is not really important.

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I didn't need on this with my hunter when it dropped, because I knew it wasn't more DPS than dual BSH with enchants, but when I greeded I won it anyway. Then I decided to keep it for a bit to level my polearm skill instead of sharding it, and realized it was a much better weapon than the DPS/agi potential alone would make it seem. You can really knock people out with this kind of weapon in PvP, especially if you're specced into increased Raptor Strike crits.

Dual BSH for PvE, Peacemaker for PvP, happy hunter.

Комментарий от Thottbot

No stamina... Only pure atack pwr/hit chance... Hunter

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Wow, I just do not understand warriors wanting this weapon. Wait until you get to level 51, do the quest to win an AV, and get the Ice Barbed Spear. Yeah it doesn't have 1% to crit but it's got +21 Agi which is over .8% to crit. And it's got +13 str which equates to 26 AP. Not to mention Ice Barbed Spear has a much higher top end and will lead to higher Mortal Strike crits, which is what a warrior with a +3 sec 2h weapon is looking for anyway. Leave this polearm to the silly hunters who think every edged weapon is for them and go get yourself an Ice Barbed Spear. Not to mention Ice Barbed looks WAY cooler than this thing.

Комментарий от Thottbot

IBS is better then peacemaker if you put +25 agi on it. Both are slow weps which make it good for pvp. IBS also looks a lot better. Both weps are fairly easy to get.

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While the hunter staff may be epic consider the stats... the peacemaker adds 56 ap (which applies to ranged) and 1 to crit, while the hunter staff adds 2 to crit and 26 stamina and 15 Int. along with 10 NR and +45 AP against demons. But what does +45 ap against demons help u in endgame instances? So since i have the staff and peacemaker im wondering what to use...? My guild does all endgames except Naxx. if it comes into consideration.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Just got it earlier tonight in strat, i wasnt expecting it, i knew about it but i had forgotten about it then we killed magistrate and it dropped.

I asked the grp if i could Need it and i did so, i used Ice Barbed Spear untill i got this, and was going to put a +25 agi encahnt on IBS but im glad i got Peacemaker before my enchanter came on or else it would have been a waste of money and mats on the IBS. Now i can get it on Peacemaker.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Good weapon for hunters after the patch. I replaced the Ice Barbed Spear with this (or i might not haven't decided yet) but the +56 AP is better then the +21 agi since that is only 21 ap now. The crit rating is better too, just wish it had a stam increase on it. I'm thinking +25 agi on it though.

Комментарий от Thottbot

This polearm just screamed "GET ME DAMN YOU" to my hunter :O

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MY WORD *crys* no stam or agily but a hunter wep stell GO FOR ICEYBARB pass to the noob worrs and ret pllys

Комментарий от Allakhazam

for me as a crit warrior this is better then the blade (full polearm spec)
the +56 attack power looks to pump the dps to 53.2 or 53.3 as it was getting a higher dps then my 53.1 dps 2h axe

Комментарий от Allakhazam

hehe i dont understand everyone says they hate the way it looks... i love the fact it looks like a trident and its all goofy on ur back, at first i thought it was just me but its not! if u wanna find me.. just look for a really tall pole :D

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Got it today on my hunter. It looks nice. And that orc in picture wields spear wrong. The end whit Blade comes up notdown (atleast on female orcs)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

double post :P

Edited, Thu Aug 25 21:52:05 2005

Комментарий от Allakhazam

this is the unlucky hunter's barbarous blade... looks like bunk but about the same stats.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Definitely a weapon for the warrior that specs in Polearm crits.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

This is, seen from a hunter's perspective, very similar to the Barbarous Blade, with almost the exact same stats. The Barbarous Blade is of course a little better with a bit extra melee DPS and 4 extra attack power, but I'd easily pass on the Barbarous Blade if someone else in the party wanted it and I already had this.

By the way, I think it looks pretty cool.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

It's been changed so the business end sticks up, looks pretty cool on my back with a bright blue glow.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Would be alot better if this weapon was turned the other way while on the back. Cause it does look retarded.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i would take this over a barbarous blade, even though it is a bit better. i am a troll hunter and IMO spears just look bloody good on trolls

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Of 4 that could use this on the raid last night, 2 already had and the other had a reaper for 2h, so I got it and man, it is wicked. I main tank alot and use a shield (also got the crest of retribution 15 min later!) so this is my "toy" for farming and off tanking when our other MT is rolling with us. Therefore, I won't be speccing to it. I am thinking the +dmg enchant on it would be my best bet. Its slow, so the proc enchants might suffer some there. I want highend, meat and potatoes, raw damage out of this pig-sticker. LMK what yal think.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

The +15 agi buff makes the tips glow a sickly green, and is nice for raising your attack power ;)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I gotta question.. As a hunter, would you prefer this one or the Ice Barbed Spear (Покрытое изморозью копье Mon Feb 27 20:32:37 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

I am a warrior .. and i gonna dam roll on this thing until i get ice barbed spear :>

Комментарий от Allakhazam

just got this last night in a strat raid, nobody else wanted it so I got it, the Attack power is good for any class that can use it, and with a 15 agi enchant (coming soon for mine :D) its a very good weapon for a hunter or warrior. basically its the same thing as a barberous blade, but not as good looking and with 4 less attack power and 3 less dps.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

http://img180.echo.cx/my.php?image=peacemaker18mw.jpg

http://img258.echo.cx/my.php?image=peacemaker25me.jpg

enjoy :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

If you have checked on the test realm the back position has been rotated 180 degrees so the the fork points up and doesnt stick up really high anymore.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Awesome stats... Works well for my Hunter... SUCKS that it looks like BLIGHT.

Make me feel special and give it an original look.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Just getted this yesterday;)

Edited, Mon May 8 09:58:27 2006

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Just got this last night - already have IBS, dithering which one to keep..

Why do people keep mentioning +15 AG enchants on this? it's 2-handed, so it gets a +25!

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Too bad it looks retarded when it's placed on your back...

Комментарий от Allakhazam

i personally think all polearms look the exact same like look at peacemaker and blight same thing and there gay looking aswell

Комментарий от Allakhazam

well, i just got one tonight....thought it was gonna look badass, but ends up looking just like "Blight" which doesn't look so good. And I hate how it looks on your back.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

A palidan with this in his hands make him just about as good as a warrior damage wize. With the +damage it gives like 70 damage and the crit chance is awsome with a retribution talent tree

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