Sim says 9500 dps, need advice

Сообщение от Sgtpain

I used the Java app to do a quick check of my choice of gemming and gearing, and it's telling me with my current gear, I should see about 9500 dps. Currently, on Saurfang, I am doing about 6,800-7200 dps with horn of winter, Abom. Might, Kings and Might, in 10 man, and, unless he is failing me, tricks from another rogue. I do, however, tricks him back, but don't have the two set bonus yet.In 25 man, I am hitting about 8k dps too.

My rotation is 3-4 point SnD, 5 point evisc, CDs whenever they are available, and haste pot during heroism and one just before the encounter starts for some added dps. Here is my armory...

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shu%27halo&cn=Slither

and here is the App I am using, which seems very accurate.
http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t86497-java_rogue_app_modelling_mutilate_combat/

*Edit, something else odd is that this doesn't show EP for AP. It's Obviously being accounted for somehow, because it shows AP gems as giving less dps as Agility and ArP, but I am surpised that AP is trumped by two other stats when AP is said to be very good.

Сообщение от KidB

The EP of AP is always 1. Anyways, I don't trust the java app so much. Until it gets polished a bit more, I suggest trying mavanas' or aldriana's spreadsheets.

I see nothing wrong gear-wise, apart from the hit rating gem and a subpar chest enchant although it wouldn't really make that much of a difference.

Сообщение от Sgtpain

Originally the hit gem was in there because I was below poison cap just a short time ago. I got my shoulders and it popped me back over. This toon was originally just an alt, but has since become more of a main recently, so yeah, I need to get a real enchant on my chest. lol

I am having issues with the spreadsheets. I put in my gear, but when I try and get to another page or move on to the next step in the process, I can't figure out how. I am using Windows 7, not sure that makes a difference. I cannot find anyway to get to another page or bring up the options to move on to the next step. When I save the gear, close, then re-open, it no longer gives me a list of options on what part I want to do, gear etc, like it does when I start fresh.

Well, anyway, does my dps seem low for my gear as combat?

Сообщение от KidB

Sounds about right with the lack of armor debuffs.

Сообщение от 176977

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Сообщение от greyghost

Interesting? my combat set has me at 8.8k in 25 man buffs, i usually get close to that whenever I do use it during fights like saurfang (I'm usually mut for that), around 300-500 dps less. And you out gear me slightly. So i question the 9500dps estimate. Here's the thing though, in our 25s, we usually have the major physical dps buffs present and decent raid synergy. This is something we need to understand when we use the spreadsheets, they are calculating our dps based on the assumption (the only one it can really simulate) that everyone in your raid, including yourself, are performing 100% error free. This is nay-impossible for any human, it has been shown. It is just fundamentally impossible for people to work at almost exact 100% error free.

The spreadsheet is also tracking w/e buffs you leave on at the buffs tab. Turn w/e the heck doesn't apply to your raid situation. Is there a war with improved battle shout or a ret pally? no? then make sure to turn off improved might and battle shout for example. Another would be someone applying an armor debuff or if you're using flasks, pots of speed, etc.

I have a query though.
Did the spreadsheet advice you to gem the Rigid king's amber and the Precise Cardinal Ruby? Try using ald's standard spreadsheet and replace certain sockets with an Accurate Ametrine and see what you get.

Сообщение от Sgtpain

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Сообщение от Sgtpain

When I open the spread sheet, it shows me a list of options of what to do first. I click on gear, then fill in the sheet, but then I can't get to any of the other things, like buffs, gems, chants etc. I can't see the options again to choose another thing to fill in, so all it's allowing me to see is one page, gear. How do I get to another part to fill in gems chants etc after I have filled in gear?

KidB, I had forgotten, Sunder was, in fact, on the boss too.

Are you using manavas' sim sheet? There should be tabs down at the bottom left with like gear, settings. If you are using manavas' sheet you'll see more tabs you fill out with talents, etc.

No idea which one I am using. I'll find that one and DL it now. The one I am using is a random one I found on EJ.

Сообщение от 176977

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Сообщение от Sgtpain

Ok, just DLed it, still no tabs to go back and forth.

Сообщение от greyghost

sigh, simply use Ald's slightly simpler spreadsheet and unhide the gear tab (format>sheet>unhide>gear. for openoffice it is "show" instead of "unhide"). For buffs, you only have to click the settings tab.

here.

Сообщение от Sgtpain

I am not seeing any of those options under Format for either of those two spreadsheets.

I just give up on them. Apparently my PC wasn't made for spreadsheets.

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Сообщение от Sgtpain

I am not seeing any of those options under Format for either of those two spreadsheets.

I just give up on them. Apparently my PC wasn't made for spreadsheets.

wth is your resolution at 640 or something? you dont have ANY options at the top of the screen under the heading (the bar that reads wth the hell app you are running,for example if you are using openoffice with ald's mut sheet running it will read "mutilate_1.3.2.ods-openoffice.org clc) that reads "file", "edit", "view" not unlike your web browser?

No, you misread. I don't have any of THOSE options UNDER format. I see Format, but when I click, there is no choice for Sheet, unhide, show etc. What it DOES give options for are Number, Allignment, Font, Border, Shading, Autoformat, Freeze tiles, Row Height, Row Width. None of the other one list anything remotely close to show or unhide etc either.

I am using MS Works.

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Сообщение от Sgtpain

Still nothing.

Oh well, atleast I found a Sim that works on my PC. Might not be 100% accurate, but from what others are saying, it's pretty close. Just frustrating that the Sim says 9500 and most I have hit is 8.2k. I just can't think of anything that's not in most of our 25 man raids that would account for THAT much dps loss.

Only thing I have thought of is that maybe Saurfang has higher than normal armor.

Sim says 9500 dps, need advice

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