Parry vs. Stamina question(tank)

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Its good the way it is now.

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Сообщение от lucius

Suggestions? Commentions? Critiques?
The problem with stacking ONLY stamina gems is your meta Gem is inactive ;p You need a red or purple.

Expertise is probably the choice Red stat for you. Or maybe dodge rating.

Сообщение от woohaa

yeah if your gonna gem any type of avoidance it should be dodge. Dodge suffers less diminishing returns and also requires less dodge rating per % of dodge then parry. I personally agree with balancing out avoidance and stam. Unfortunately the raiding community never asks for your avoidance and usually low hp results in them inviting a different tank. If your just tanking for your guild and don't pug then i'd say go ahead and find the fine line of balance between stam and avoidance.

also the other guy that posted above is correct...the 4% parry you receive thru runeforging isn't subject to diminishing returns.

oh and i also agree with the wearing 2 brewfest charms is retarded. i'd say that's fine when your OTing koralon or something similar where it's just spelldmg your taking. But i've seen tanks with 37k unbuffed hp melt in ony10 because they had less then 40% avoidance and took too many hits. yes i know...how the hell you hit 37k hp and have less then 40% avoidance....

Сообщение от neomasterc

I dont think your stam is any where near enough to consider taking parry over stam because parry suffers SEVERE dimishing returns, making it not worth it to gem for. Also, stam does not depend on RNG. I'm not saying that avoidance is never better than stam, its just that i dont think at your current lvl avoidance would give u more EH.
btw try to use a stam trink instead of the one ur using.
there are few fights that need alot of avoidance, and even in those fights we perform poorly.
eg. anub hm adds.

Er, just a point....you do realise that the parry gained from the runeforge isn't subject to DR, right?

No one was talking about gemming for parry. That would be stupid :P

I dont think i talked about runeforging.

Also, not just gemming for parry.
What is under discussion is stam vs parry. tank gear naturally has both because parry is a secondary stat.
Therefore our main topic of discussion here is about trinkets and gems.
so. moral of the story. dont gem for parry and try to use 2 stam trinks until calculations show that avoidance > stam. There arent that many high end avoidance trinkets anyways. Only one that comes to my mind is eitriggs oath and ony trinket.

Сообщение от neomasterc

yeah if your gonna gem any type of avoidance it should be dodge. Dodge suffers less diminishing returns and also requires less dodge rating per % of dodge then parry.

This is no longer true. parry gives the same % of parry per point as dodge gives dodge per point.
However, parry suffers significantly more diminishing returns.

Btw about your ony 10 story.
Ive tanked toc 25 fine in dps spec... I probably have just over 40% avoidance as dps spec. not sure.

Сообщение от Orranis

Keep Stone Skin Gargoyle because the 25 defense is about equal to 3% avoidance split evenly between miss, dodge, and parry. Then there's the 2% stamina...
Now let's pretend for like five seconds the stats were perfectly balanced. 5>4.