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If the Light of the Paladins cause more pain than that of the Priests, then their Light is superior?

lolwut? You missed my point again. Either I'm incredibly unclear or you're attempting to straw me.

You're claiming that different Light spells caused different levels of pain on the Forsaken caster, yes? And that this would be why the Forsaken Paladin is impossible, since the pain caused by his style of fighting would instantly destroy himself, yes?

You said that I claimed that Paladin Light is superior. That I did not do. Delterius, could you please cite something that proves your arguement? You keep requesting something that disproves it but I have yet to see anything that proves it.

Please.

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You also bash anyone who uses it, saying that it's out of date, but I guess when you are making the references, suddenly, it's still in use eh?

When did I bash anyone for doing something that I do, and am doing, all the time?In one of the Worgen threads, when some thing was linked from the encyclopedia on the Ancients, you said no, that's out of date information and should not be used in current discussions. Like I said, your fine with using the RPG books when it agrees with your own train of thought, but apparently not when it shows the opposite.

You still skimmed over the part that was bolded.

I... quoted exactly what you wrote earlier?So....the fact that it said "We don't know, we just know what Blizzard has told us; that as they heal, it hurts them, but their Will lets them continue." wasn't clear about them speaking on the Forsaken doing the healing?

Сообщение от Monday

Delterius, could you please cite something that proves your arguement? You keep requesting something that disproves it but I have yet to see anything that proves it.

What exactly would you like me to prove?

Your position?

If a Forsaken Priest's Light doesn't cause as much pain as that of a Paladin's, then what is the major implication? That the most powerful Priest spell is inferior to lowest Paladin spell.

No...

Сообщение от Hyperspacerebel

I am no lore expert, but here's how I see it:

We know the Light (or at least the Naaru wielding the Light) cannot cleanse the plague, so it follows that there is some sort of incapability between the light and the plague of undeath. And since it's the plague (or the remnants of it) that is keeping the undead "alive" it would follow that trying to force too much Light through their bodies could disrupt whatever is keeping them "alive" and they would die for real. I would think that the amount of Light needed would depend on the amount of "undeath" keeping them alive.

Сообщение от Monday

I am no lore expert, but here's how I see it:

We know the Light (or at least the Naaru wielding the Light) cannot cleanse the plague, so it follows that there is some sort of incapability between the light and the plague of undeath. And since it's the plague (or the remnants of it) that are keeping the undead "alive" it would follow that trying to force too much Light through their bodies could disrupt whatever is keeping them "alive" and they would die for real. I would think that the amount of Light needed would depend on the amount of "undeath" keeping them alive.

That's actually one I've never heard before. Interesting.

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One said argues that since the Forsaken Priests use the Light, then they can by extension become Paladins.

Then the other claims that the Paladins' style of fighting is too destructive and aims at killing undead and demons, therefore an undead is physically unable to use it?

Is that it?

Sounds about right.

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Welp, I'm done with this thread as it's just giving me issues now; don't want it to get locked for a stupid reason.

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Сообщение от Hyperspacerebel

If an undead is physically unable to use the Light as a Paladin, then Zeliek is physically unable to exist.
Unless it's his extreme devotion to the Light that is what's keeping him alive. I think you're looking to strictly at the issue, and only considering a limited number of possibilities.

Сообщение от Adamsm

If an undead is physically unable to use the Light as a Paladin, then Zeliek is physically unable to exist. Because then he would blow himself by using the Light offensively, no matter what.Except we've covered this; Zeliek doesn't feel the pain, and whatever damage he does take, the necromancers just repair it; again, in the actual comic, which is one of the few lore battle against him, Zeliek is cut down from his horse. At the end of the fight, he get's back to his feet, as does his steed, bemoaning the circumstances of his new 'life' before watching as Darion and the Forsaken magi/warlock whatever he was escape. And Zeliek, like the Lady, is more of a Priest then a Paladin.

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/Twitch

His Willpower keeps his mind his own, but his body is still the Scourges, to be used as the Lich King and KT wishes.

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Сообщение от Hyperspacerebel

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You're making assumptions and coming to concrete conclusions. That doesn't work.

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Сообщение от Hyperspacerebel

Read my post again. What I said is that your assumptions have implications that simply contradict your claims.

Exactly. You assume X, Y, and Z, and then conclude that I'm wrong.

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