Is pvp even worth it?

Сообщение от Madmick

Tbh; you are all wrong.

The best 1v1 class is not a frost mage; it is an arcane mage.

Again, 2v2 isn't going to really "count" as of next season and running duel dps can be tricky. Priest/Mage is what I've been running and I guess people say it's hard to play as.

But run a PMR team and if you can cordinate the CC's; you can easily get to a 1.7k+ rating.

For w.e reason you mentioned PvE. I get ~4.5k in arcane w. the cookie cutter build. If you run w. a balance druid and you have high crit chance FFB is better then Arcane. Arcane is also harder to manage mana with but it makes up for it w. more controllable crits and hit rating..
I've taken down loads of Alliance Frost mages, but no, I don't think Arcane is the best 1v1 spec. A skilled Frostie with his Cold Snap ready to fire is just too damn much.

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Сообщение от Madmick

Not to be rude, but you didn't tell me anything there I didn't already know. What you're casually overlooking is how many if's you're using. Like I said, I've taken down plenty of Frosties. But the good, geared ones manage to make that Ice Barrier the difference. With Cold Snap, they just have too many damn tricks. They will prolong the fight and they will win a prolonged fight.

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Сообщение от Grums

Good Frost Mage = Survivability. And by good, I mean one that knows how to spellsteal and summon his minion.

Good Arcane Mage = A lot of damage, but mana will burn too fast, and will take too much damage.

I can literally prove that a good frost mage will destroy a good arcane mage. Especially RMP comps, you don't see the mage going arcane. He has t be frost, cause the mage is usually what is always targeted first, if not the rogue.

Wrong a good frost mage knows how to use CC probably and use focus target macros well, cous that is the mage job on that RMP team. Ur not having time for spell stealing, if its not 2v2 ofcourse.

and frost mages destroy arcane mages ? what...

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Сообщение от Karang

Read this. It's a good guide to mage pvp, specifically frost.

Oh wow, that was useful. Thanks!

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Сообщение от Achloryn

-bunch of nonsensical ramble hidden under the guise of pvp "strategies"-

you must not pvp much against really decent players... hunters are one of the most difficult battles for mages. your "guides" make absolutely no sense.. If you're within 5 yards of a hunter, why would you blink? Why would you Ice block against a feral druid for no reason? what are you "waiting" for? and for destro locks.. just... /facepalm...

seriously.. if you aren't going to say anything potentially CONSTRUCTIVE, keep your hands off the keyboard. your guides make no sense, there's no real strategy in them, and all you claim is that you "haven't died to a hunter since lvl 60"... all i can say is.... cool story, bro.

Сообщение от Madmick

You haven't died to a hunter since level 60?

Pffttt...dude, you clearly suck at the game. Your "guide" for beating hunters couldn't beat me playing on my friend's hunter....like with me learning the hotkeys while I play. That's amazing that you've never been derailed with a Scatter Shot or something. Or that they don't silence you with a Wyvern Sting, or de-target you with a Feigned Death, or watch humorously as you run at them while they Explosive Shot your face, and then Disengage the second you get to your hilarious little spot 5 yards from them. So you blink, but then you realize you were too stupid to save your blink for another root/snare/stun he's gonna throw at you. Plus he might consider trinketing out of slow before he does all this so you can't easily reapply it, or force you to decide whether you jump through hoops to reapply while he simultaneously smacks you with Xplosive Shot off its 6 sec CD. In the time it takes you to cast that instant and wait for the 1 second global CD for your next spell, he can tank 1/2 to 3/4 of your life if you're just eating it. I know because I play against geared hunters. And you didn't even mention throwing on a Fire Ward even though the majority of Hunters are still Survival in PvP (even with the nerf). You didn't mention which armor to put on. Seriously, I could go on with how bad that general blueprint sucks, but it's endless.

Against Feral Druids: why would you slow a druid? They just shapeshift out of it, you Guh-Nub.

You sound like a PvE guy trying to talk about how good you are at PvP. Here's the thing, dude: your opponent has abilities, too. Yeah, I know, it's a miracle. You have to consider what they're going to do to you. It's not one of your targeting dummies.

Сообщение от Madmick

Achloryn, btw, this is a perfect example of what I was complaining about in that thread about getting bad info in here, and I had to explain to your guys that I wasn't talking about the guys who write the stickies and whatnot. It's guys like this who try to come off sounding like they're good, and when I was new, I couldn't identify them for what they were. I think he's just being sarcastic (the feral druid guide looks like the most efficient outline for getting killed as fast as possible), but still, it's confusing when you're new.

I mean, this guy is so good at the game he doesn't even need a guide for killing Destro Warlocks.

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