Christianity - The Horse that Refuses to Die

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What? Are you serious? There really is no more evidence for mormonism then for my hypothetical elf religion. I'm not trolling you, I'm making a point. Please prove that there are miracles - and that if there are, they weren't created by my elf religion?

Because I have seen and have been on the receiving side of miracles. You are creating a hypothetical situation with no evidence to back it up, none at all. It is very severely offensive to me and I'm tired of it.

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Time to back that up with miracles then.

It was a miracle that they created the world.
It was a miracle that they contacted me.
It was a miracle that they allowed me to be born.
It was a miracle that they allowed themselves to be born into someones mind, and created as mythology in this world.

I'm done with you. You are creating a parody, a caricature, without any of the actual events that happened to help prove Jesus was the Christ.

In essence, you are trolling me. Have a good day.

What? Are you serious? There really is no more evidence for mormonism then for my hypothetical elf religion. I'm not trolling you, I'm making a point. Please prove that there are miracles - and that if there are, they weren't created by my elf religion?

The point is that there is equal evidence for each.

There is actually more evidence for the God of Abraham than your elves. Three distinct religions, each with their own sects within, have worshiped the same god for thousands of years, and there are historic documents and analyses that back up Biblical events and people.

Of course, the same argument works for Hinduism, Taoism, and Shinto.

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Yeah, all the responses I've recieved are why I don't participate in debates. I'm no good at them. :(

FYI, I do truly accept Jesus Christ as my savior, I'm not believing just as a safety net.

I'm agnostic. Christianity may be right. Hinduism may be right. Shinto may be right. I don't really care because I don't see it as relevant to me.

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So, you're attacking me on a terminology point? I'm afraid you're still wrong, as I was talking with my seminary teacher about this today.

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I don't usually participate in religious debates, but I just wonder, why would you not believe in God?

If there is no God, alright, cool. You die and nothing happens.

If there is a God, and you don't believe in him, then you don't go to Heaven. If there is a God and you believe in him, you go to Heaven.

Also with this logic you would have to believe in everything. And nothing, in case it backfires. Maybe unicorns don't like it when people believe in them.

EluraE is actually touching on a good point, with that logic you would have to believe in just about every religion just in case.

Sure "believe" in god just in case but which god and religion would you "believe" in just in case?
Richard already admitted that his response was why he didn't argue in the first place. Lets not give him too many black eyes over it....

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So, you're attacking me on a terminology point? I'm afraid you're still wrong, as I was talking with my seminary teacher about this today.

And this is why, on top of many other reasons, Christianity has about as many holes in it as a fishing net. The people teaching people the religion can't even agree.

And this is why, on top of many other reasons, you are a horrible debater. You refuse to read what I wrote. I very clearly said that I worship God the Father and Jesus Christ because they are the ones that created this world. There have been other worlds created, however, and other resurrected beings that watch over them (that I call gods for convenience).

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I don't usually participate in religious debates, but I just wonder, why would you not believe in God?

If there is no God, alright, cool. You die and nothing happens.

If there is a God, and you don't believe in him, then you don't go to Heaven. If there is a God and you believe in him, you go to Heaven.

Also with this logic you would have to believe in everything. And nothing, in case it backfires. Maybe unicorns don't like it when people believe in them.

EluraE is actually touching on a good point, with that logic you would have to believe in just about every religion just in case.

Sure "believe" in god just in case but which god and religion would you "believe" in just in case?

He has already adressed this, scroll up

I already saw the post your referring to, however the thing is that a lot of people use that exact same argument to justify why agnostics or athiests should turn to X religion

None of whome are here. So once again a genrelasation

EDIT: once again see the original post, the OP is the one trying to force his athesitic beleifs down peoples throat.

Christianity - The Horse that Refuses to Die

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