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1.	Survey the Land
2.	Buying Time
3.	The Master Planner
4.	Patience and Understanding
5.	Crackin' Some Skulls
6.	It's Just That Easy?
7.	Forge Camp: Annihilated

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Comment by 8258

Easily soloable as a demonology warlock. All demons here can be feared and banished and with the felguard it makes it a cake walk.

Comment by 13511

Bit of information on these mobs. The tinkerers come in packs of 4 at a time. Seem to be leashed to one another. The engineers sometimes cast the magnetic pull spell which pulls someone to them, making them hard to kite. This only happened once of the 3 kites I did solo on them so I'm not sure if it was just a bug, or if its just something they do very rarely. Its definitely less common from them then it is on the next to quest encounters in the chain. The Legionnaires are just a straight melee type elite, hit fairly hard.. Not something to go toe to toe with unless you have a bit of backup.

Comment by 16172

Perfect coords as always.

Comment by chonchu

From this part on the chain, all the others requires a group to kill a couple guys so if you don´t wanna waste ur time now just look for a group to do the whole chain.
After this step you gonna do one in Shat´tar, another one around Shat´tar, fly back to this NPC, enter the forges one more time and your done.

Comment by 15533

Solo'd this part of the quest as a 66 feral druid. The tinkerers are easy in bear form. Engineers are not totally hard but if you don't work it right, they might kill you. The legionaires are prob the most difficult for a feral druid. Charge them and kill their cannons first, then bash, shift out, entangle root them and heal. Once healed, just let the root take it's corse so that bash can cool down. Then go back in for more. Tank, bash, root, heal... takes some time but works like a charm. Keep some health potions on hand to use incase bash is dodged, blocked, parried, etc. You should be ok. ;-)

Comment by 15219

Level 67 undead shadow priest with good gear... don't recommend trying to solo it as the first engineer I came across pwned me pretty hard.

I would like to thank Dradyn (lvl 67 Tauren Hunter) and Tanaka (Tauren Prot Spec Warrior) on Draka for helping me with the rest of the quest line. Once you have a decent pug, all but the last quest are a cake walk.

Comment by 17991

Solo'd easily by a level 66 balance druid - mobs are not immune to roots.

Comment by 30936

As a 66 Frost Mage, I could kill every monsters but the Legionnaires. They hit about 1,000 non-crit, they have about 31,000hp and they have an ability to make us jump. Also, as soon as we leave the camp and get on the grass, he goes back to his spot.
Tinkers are easy, just focus on one. They can't be sheeped since they are demons.
Engineers can be a pain if they use their ability "Magnatical Pull" (Not sure of the name). If they do, blink out fast or prepare to frost nova, otherwise you'll die soon.

All of them hit hard on a cloth class. That's why you can't be hit or you won't solo the quest.

Good luck and hope this helped.

Comment by mrgamer

lvl69 42/0/18 arcane/frost mage... very easy to do that quest solo

legionnaries are harder than the rest, but they are still very doable.. just kite them with frostbite+permafrost, or if you are full frost with bonus frostnova given by the elemental

just aoe the tinkerers and the engineers have just 18k hp

Comment by 49133

Did this quest as a lvl 67 Demonology Warlock. I enslaved a Felguard Legionnaire. And i wasted about 5 Soul Shard's couse the enslavement broke. But it was fairly easy... Did it in 10 mins =)

Comment by 51068

As a Level 70 Hunter I soloed this.

The Legionnaires can be kited to Garadar where they will be attacked by the lvl 70+ guards.

Note: they can ONLY be kited if you first kill the Fel Canon they stand by.

Send pet in aggro canon, kill canon then recall pet. The Legionnaire will follow. Keep running and jump shooting Concusive Shot (to slow him down) and Serpent Sting (to damage him). When appraoching bridges, where a jump shot could result in a long fall, drop a Frost Trap to slow him down.

Hopefully by the time you get to Garadar the sting would have done enough damage for you to claim the kill before the guards slaughter him. Make sure to keep attacking while guards are pounding on him though.

Comment by 43516

Wanna say were the mobs r instead of how well u work at solo? Thats nice to know but would be better to know were i need to go to "solo as a whatever".

Comment by 64047

Helpful note for locks: when u enslave felguard, kill some mobs, and when hp of your felguard will be low, dissmiss it, fear, dot up and nuke, so it would be faster completing it.

Comment by 55952

This quest is soloable as a frost mage. The tinkerers can be AoE'd down, and the engineers are a fairly straightforward frost kite. If the engineers use their Magnetic Pull ability, quickly blink away or Frost Nova and run.

The Legionnaires are a bit more problematic. As mentioned earlier, they are only kiteable if you take out the cannon they are at first. Put up Ice Barrier and Fire Ward, and start out by nuking the cannon. When the Legionnaire reaches you, Frost Nova and finish off the cannon. Cone of Cold the Legionnaire for the snare, then start kiting it around. Watch out for the knockback, which has a surprisingly long range.

Comment by 21400

Co-ords please.

Comment by rothbart

if you are a hunter, here is your strat

i solo'ed this quest as 70 hunter, but the strat i used could be used effectively to solo even if you are 67-68.

For the legionnaires, you can pull these without aggro'ing the cannons, hit from range with anything but serpent sting. Turn pet growl off, place freeze trap on ground and back up, keep shooting. he gets trapped, wait for trap cooldown.... (helps to have survival spec with 30sec trap CD) pop trap with aimed shot, shoot more place trap, repeat until dead.

for the engineers. use the basic pet tank and mend strat, your pet will probably die unless you have alot more stam than i did, after pet dies, do your best to follow the legionnaire strat, the engineers have a magnetic pull which makes it more difficult, but it is still possible.

Tinkerers, have pet attack the pack of 4 making sure that he gets hits on 2-3, cast mend pet, this will aggro 1-2 onto you, trap 1. then just kill 'em. they are simple.

general tip, there are lvl 67 and 68 legionnaires and engineers, the 67's are FAR easier =]

Comment by 50031

Grabbed a legionnaire, tanked another legionnaire. When the target was dead, I fearkited the one I used as tank.

As for the cannons, I sent the VW to tank the first legionnare, while I nuked the cannon. When the cannon was "dead", I enslaved the legionnaire, and sent him over to another legionnaire. While he was "tanked", I nuked this cannon aswell.

The tinkerers were very fast murdered by my "legionnaire-pet" :)

Also used Legionnaire as tank for the Enginneers.

I was lvl 67 Affli.

Comment by 67187

easy for a lock. Just enslave one elite demon and make him attack the others. So simpled

Comment by 81807

I soloed this as a 66 Frost Mage. The Legionnaires are the hardest. The tinkers can just be aoe'd to death and the engineer just has to be kited.

The Legionnaire hits hard so be careful. You also cant pull it far onto the grass or it'll evade and run back. Best to clear away any surrounding mobs, I used this rotation:

Have Water Elemental take first shot at him
Use Elementals' nova spell to root mob
Frostbolt
Ice Lance
Use your own Frost Nova
Frostbolt
Ice Lance
Repeat

Comment by loozerr

Soloed with lvl 70 fire specced mage with normal lvl 70 instance gear.

None of the mobs were immune to frost nova, dragon's breath's disorient or the snare from Blast Wave.

Mobs hit very hard, so always stay at safe range.

Definately not easy, but doable when you blink at right moment, etc. :)

Comment by 16904

The Legionaires are kitable, which is exactly what I had to do because I couldn't find a group for the quest.

I kept Aspect of the Viper up, turned growl off of my pet, and used arcane shot/serp sting/conc shot as often as they were up. I also dropped immolation traps to do more damage, and then went to ice trap as i got low on mana.

Be sure to shoot him every 5-6 seconds (which arcane shot should cover) so that he doesn't lose aggro. You should be able to get in an auto shot here and there though, so deaggroing should be no problem.

Comment by 93332

Can be done with a 70 resto shammy easily enough. 5/5 in healing focus, and an earth shield. I used my fire elemental to help kill one legionnare, and earth elemental for the other.

For the engineers, just pick them off one by one, keep earth shield up on yourself and flame shock up on the mob. Heal up regularly, and keep batting away at him.

For the little fellas, easy to take a group of them. AOE flame totems really handy here.

Comment by 64664

I don't know if this only counts for the server Arathor...
Some Fel Canons seems to be bugged. Meaning, sometimes a canon will be shooting you without you even been able to see it. And you do take damage. However, you sometimes can still mount up.
Pets can aggro and kill it.
Another bug is the Fel Canon with a range that seems to go all wild, it can shoot ya even when you are in a town! This one doesn't seem to do damage, but you can see the green flickering on your character.

Some Engineers may also be bugged, when you die and try to attack the Engineer it'll just evade everything, and it won't attack you.

Great tip for warlocks using enslave demon is really awesome. Those Legionnaires have a lot of hitpoints and hit very hard. However they will grow aggressive to you very quickly. So maybe only one mob at a time to play it safe.

Comment by 66849

To be honest it looks like those mobs can be hit by all kind of cc, like fear, root, slowing effects etc.
Only thing they cannot be hit by will be... Hibernate, Polymorph and Sap.
Also... as others have said quest is piece of cake as warlock.

Comment by 81359

Solod as 66 shadow priest. It's gonna take everything you have. He runs about the same speed as you but can be feared. Keep dots and shield up, shadowfiend when you need to, and just kite him. Try not to get hit too much and I wouldn't recommend leaving shadow form.

Comment by 121766

Might be a recent fix for the enslave-demon overuse, but now the legionarre breaks free of my enslave demon within 10-15 seconds, although im lvl 70.

Comment by 126636

Soloed as a level 70 Protection Warrior. It wasn't fast, and it involved pulling off just about every trick short of 30 minute cool-downs, but it's possible.

Comment by Euryticles

Soloed as a 66 Warlock fairly easy. Just enslave one of the Felguards, kill another Felguard while Health Funnelling them and DoT'ing. I killed the one with 6k health left on the one I enslaved, then dismissed, feared, and DoT'd for the second kill. The tinkerers are a piece of cake, and the engineers are easy if you can get them alone. Make sure if you die from a felguard that breaks his chains that you enslave a different demon next else they'll break fast.

Comment by 91244

Just did this as a 66 hunter, BM specced with Aimed Shot and 2/3 Hawk Eye. The Tinkerers and Engineers can be tanked by your pet just fine, but you'll need to kite the Legionnaires.

Start out from a max range on the Legionnaire, with Aspect of the Hawk on. Make sure your pet's Growl is off auto-cast, and Hunter's Mark is up. Start out with your best 3-shot combo (Aimed->Arcane->Auto if you have Aimed Shot, Steady->Arcane->Auto if not). Immediately begin running towards the road (to kite along it), and sick your pet on him. After a few yards, when you are out of range of the cannon's shots, pop Aspect of the Cheetah. Get a Serpent Sting up on him for constant damage (and keep it refreshed!). From there, rotate Arcane Shot and Distracting Shot to keep his aggro while your pet, Serpent Sting and Arcane Shot eat away. When Frost Trap is up, drop it and turn around to spam your high-powered shots, then resume running like hell. If you are BM specced, do the same with Intimidation. And if you find yourself low on health, pop Freezing Trap and bandage up.

At some point during that battle your pet will pass up your threat, and get aggro. At this point, pop Mend Pet and use it as a chance to unleash some high powered moves. When the pet dies, resume your kite. You also will be unable to use Aspect of the Viper, because you will need Cheetah to keep at a range. Because of this, I recommend grabbing a mana potion.

Also, if you are Alliance, head south on the road, otherwise you may run into Garadar and get owned by guards. Likewise, Horde run north; if you pump out too little damage, the mob may last until Telaar, and you don't want to run into guards there.

Comment by 156008

I just soloed this part with a level 70 Frost mage. This is extremly easy if you just have the right timing.

To kill the legoiners, simply pull at max range.
When pulled you will agro the cannons too. But if you blink away from them directly as they aggro you´ll loose them.
After this just spam away with frostbolt and alternate between frost nova and blink to keep distance.

Engineers go down just as easy, but with diffrent tactics since they are a bit hader to kite.Again, pull att max range and alter between nova and blink to keep distance.
If they use the magnetic beam to pull you close, simply pop Icebarrier and run away.

The Trinketers are the easiest part, simply nuke the first until he ide, by that time hes buddies should have come inte melee range.
Nova them and then run away. Use Blizard to do some damage and slow them down. after that hit them with Cone of cold. Blink away and then nova them again, now finish them of with Blizzard.

Did it in 10 minues without dying once, so this is truely one of the easiest group quests in Nagrand.

Good luck, you won´t need it.

Comment by Allakhazam

Solo'd as a 67 Warlock.

All the demons can be enslaved, except the Pit Lord. Grab a Felguard Legionnaire as they hit the hardest and can take the most punishment.

In fact, this entire quest chain can be solo'd as a 67 Warlock.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2007 4:25pm by Vanden

Comment by Allakhazam

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Edited, Jan 26th 2007 8:05pm by shanvhere

Comment by Allakhazam

You can do this quest either in Forge Camp Fear or Forge Camp Hate, and they're both located at the western part of Nagrand with the tlocs as follows:

Forge Camp Fear - 20.51 and around
Forge Camp Hate - 25.37 and around

Comment by Allakhazam

K... but what do you do if you're not a mage or warlock!

Comment by Allakhazam

Greater Windrocs - (38,22)
Gronn - (32,30) He likes to travel so don't blame my Co-ords
Ages Clefthoof - (30,63)

All easy and probly soloable if you tried!

Me!

Comment by Allakhazam

Non insanely high damage per second/crowd control types will need some friends to complete. (It non-frost mage, non-warlock) I did with a 66 feral druid and 65 arms/fury warrior. Me: 66 protection paladin with some decent healing gear. I kept them alive while they took the bad guys down. It was a little tight at times and this was no easy quest but we did it with no deaths.

So phone a friend. That is all.

Comment by Allakhazam

Warlock = Win.

Step 1: Enslave Legionnaire.
Step 2: Send it after 4-pulls and the elites.
Step 3: NEVER heal it.
Step 4: When Legionnaire is at low health, summon up a pet, attack, and win.

Easy.

Comment by Allakhazam

Warlocks have an advantage on this quest because of enslave demon. All u have to do is enslave one of the legionnaires and turn him on the engineers, both are 67 or 68 elites so if u do it correctly u can use one leg. for two eng. after u kill the eng's u can dismiss leg use fel domination bring out your felguard and finish off the leg. u have to do it twice to get the 2 legs and 3 eng's u need but saves u from having to put a group together. then just grind the tinkerers and ur done. good luck.

Comment by Allakhazam

This entire quest chain is soloable. It's kind of silly that every step in it has a 3 man suggestion. I mean, the first step is to hop on a free ride on a nether drake, no combat. "3-man"? What the hell?

All the monsters in this chain are kiteable, and all but the last can be frozen, feared, etc.

Step 1 - Survey the Land: Ride the drake. Collect XP.
Step 2 - Buying Time: Kill monsters. If you can handle a single mob of 30k hp, and a group of four 5k hp monsters, you will be fine. Just kite, freeze, fear, whatever.
Step 3 - The Master Planner. Single monster of 30k hp, very easy. Only trick is his magnetic pull which is an anti-kite. But it seems like you can run out of it, breaking it... or something. In any event, not challenging, just re-kite.
Step 4 - Patience and Understanding (Shattrath). Single monster of 22k hp. Hits hard and bugs a lot, but again can be kited very easily. Also has magnetic pull.
Step 5 - Crackin' Some Skulls. Three easy monsters you fight separately. The ogre is probably the hardest, but he's easy compared with Step 4.
Step 6 - It's that easy? Walk back to Altrius and collect XP.
Step 7 - Forge Camp: Annihilated. Two 62k bosses must be killed. Either get a group or run them back to base, and the guards will kill them for you. They cannot be snared or feared, but they walk very slow, so you can just lead them by the nose back to town. After you kill them, head back (they'll have respawned). You can pull them off (I used a water elemental), or you can just activate the key to finish the quest. Unlike most channeled abilities, it doesn't break on damage. And the second boss didn't attack me at all where I was when I activated the key. Your mileage may vary.

Comment by Allakhazam

They are all around 25.38

Comment by Allakhazam

Solo'd as a 67 frost mage
only the engineers are a bit touph :>

Comment by Allakhazam

what are the coords?

Comment by Allakhazam

Soloed second part as a 66 hunter, non elites are easy, for elites, turn off pet's growl, put on chitah, kite around while pet bites from behind, didn't take long

Comment by Allakhazam

Solo'd as a 66 Warlock.
Just enslave the felguard and done.:))

Comment by Allakhazam

kitable yes.. but i ran out of mana before i killed the felguard lol

Comment by Allakhazam

I just soloed this as a 68 BM (41/18/0) hunter with 7607 health and 4615 mana. Pet has 5410 health and 8869 armor. Faced both Felguards lvl 67, just kited them down the road and whenever intimidation was up i used it, aimed shotted, and popped a mana pot almost every fight (i know :P). I turned growl off on my pet but still let him wail on the guy while i was kiting. ALWAYS KEEP CHEETAH ON. The tinkerers were simple, popped beast within, owned, and done. The engineers were the toughest. First 2 were 67 and did the same trick as felguards, went down a little easier. Third one was 68, and the first time he had magnetic pulled me and killed me. Second time i kited him and he didnt magnetic pull at all, downed him.

FIN Good Luck, if i could do it, i hope you can too ;)

Comment by Allakhazam

u can fien dll of them at Forge CAmp some are elites too so wach out

Comment by Allakhazam

Solo'd as 67 frost mage... takes a lot of kiting but can be done

Comment by Allakhazam

Did this solo as a 66 frost mage, 5171 HP, 7160 mana buffed, + 397 spell damage,
870 armor (can you say squishy?).
They are all around 25.38. The 8 tinkerers are easy enough, they pull in groups of 3-4. The engineers are tougher but not that bad. I used my water elemental to pull, had to use coldsnap and all cooldowns for each engineer and Felguard Legionnaire so it took a while but was do-able.

Comment by dydrawer

Warlocks, pull the elites outside and keep them feared. If you overpull one, use Banish. Very easy to solo.

The Tinkerers, although not elite, might pose a problem as you will aggro 3, occasionally 4 at once, but nothing terribly difficult.

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Altruis the Sufferer in western Nagrand has asked that you kill 2 Felguard Legionnaires, 3 Mo'arg Engineers and 8 Gan'arg Tinkerers.

	Felguard Legionnaire slain (2)
	Mo'arg Engineer slain (3)
	Gan'arg Tinkerer slain (8)
	Suggested players: 3 (1)

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As long as the transporters stand, nothing we do to the forge camps will have any permanence. We must find a way to destroy the Legion structures.

I need time to devise a plan of attack. If you can keep their engineers and tinkerers busy, it would greatly slow down their progress, buying me the time I need.

Stay as far away as possible from the overseers, <name>. They are extremely dangerous beings.

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