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Comment by TheOnyx

When I completed this quest, I had the Hypnotic Blade (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=7714). Given that, the Celestial Orb was the obvious choice, since the plus to spell damage was the same, but you get an additional +3 intellect and +3 spirit.

Comment by 6998

I would definitely take Celestial Orb over Celestial Stave in this quest. Celestial Stave can be replaced where as Celestial Orb is useful even at lvl 60 in high level instances such as Naxxramas! One can switch this orb in, use it after 30 seconds, and switch back to their normal offhand.

Comment by 11168

i'm using (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=873) so i dont think ill be using anyof the items form thsi chain, disenchant i guess. unless i can find a better combo, not too sure

Comment by 51688

Rasore, you have so right, I have the Orb and I got a dagger too. It gives more specs then the staff does. So I would have pick the Orb = )

Comment by 54817

Take the orb...
The staff is good, but I would prefer Illusionary Rod given that you do this quest around lvl 34-40...(https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=7713)
Besides, if you have a dagger or a sword the choice is obvious^^

Actually I'm going to try and get my orb right now with my lvl 36 mage...

Good luck everyone<3

Comment by Alderaan

Take into account, that the cooldown of the orb is 30 minutes, so it can be used only swapping it with something else in your inventory, as stated above.

Comment by H4rb0rSkum

I'm going to see about chanting more intel on the Celestial Stave because the damage and healing is down-right awesome for those levels. But that orb really isn't anything to jump up and down over imo. I never have a problem running out of mana and if I do I don't want to wait for the orb to equip-cooldown to use. 400 to 1200 is a pretty big threshold to bank on if you're in a bad spot. Also, considering you can start the chain for this quest at only 35, Twinks should take notice here

Comment by 22525

You guys shouldn't be even doing this quest, after few levels you gain better items from random mobs or quest rewards. Anyways, this quest doesn't even give enough xp/h so it would benefit enough.

Comment by 71115

I can recommend the staff hands down. I added the intel enchant and it lasted me until I got to Outlands.

I keep it in the bank and pull it out when I hear young mages wishing they had a better weapon and somehow they haven't started this quest string yet. Seems no time at all and they are back to show me their new staff! Why spend time in the AH when you can get xp AND a nice weapon too?

So spread the word.

Comment by BlackWvyern

Never take the staff... ever. Get Zum'rah's Vexing Cane if you have to have a staff... +10 stam +10 intel and 21 spell damage... a whole 1 spell damage less, but you gain 2 intel and 10 stamina versus the celestial staff. https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=18082

Comment by 35262

I have a 39 Frost Mage and I sold the Staff. With Hypnotic Blade and the Prophetic Stave(or staff) why would I want either? I have better stats and a damage bonus so who in their right mind would want to use either of these items? The 1200 mana in decent but the gold is worth more to me.

Remember. Play your way, not how others tell you you should play, it's a game for fun so have some.

Comment by 95452

i didnt want either of the rewards...the orb is 30min cooldown, can only be used 30sec after you equip it, and has an average of only restoring 800 mana, which is not that good for me. and the staff was out of the question because i had Illusionary Rod.

Comment by Silverado

Yea I took the orb...

...then I disenchanted that mug!

Comment by venjur

You can do the new quest in DWM that gives you https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=33266
6 int 5 spi 13 dmg which is better imo and will last longer.

Comment by 118318

The previous quest chain starts with: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=1953 . You have to complete the hole chain before obtaining one of those rewards.

Comment by Thottbot

...complete this quest: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/quest=1957/mana-surges

Comment by Thottbot

same! nice scepter

Comment by Thottbot

I would suggest grabbing the orb, and running through SM Library and kill the boss a few times... He drops a dagger that, when used with this orb, will have +22 to damage, +3 to spirit and +9 to int, as well as the orb's special.

Comment by Thottbot

guys i need how iget this quest(what quest i need to do to get it)?

Comment by Thottbot

how do u get this quest when im 40 made still cant get it when i went to her for different quests

Comment by Thottbot

Is there any predecessor quest to get this one?

Comment by Thottbot

Do i have to do the ULdaman q before i can get this because that staff is sooooooooo cool!

Comment by Thottbot

ya u do...and i know huh! it's friggin awesome!

Comment by Thottbot

I would suggest not to get the staff, do SM library and get Hypnotic blade, combine it with the rob and walaa a perfect cool looking combo

Comment by Thottbot

Hunter weapon!

Comment by Thottbot

it doesn't put a cooldown on any consumables
so you can use orb & mana gem & mana pot -> a whole lot of mana back :D

Comment by Allakhazam

This is much better Orb of Lorica and btw, the orb is named "Prophetic Cane" for horde.
The only way Celestial Orb is useful, is as an extra mana pot

Edited, Oct 11th 2006 at 1:45pm PDT by Bloodhoofie

Comment by Allakhazam

just once can i get some great gloves or pants or something. Im tired of getting a staff or robe that worse than what i already have.

Edited, Wed Nov 16 14:04:39 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

I still prefer illusionary staff with drops from the mage guy in the library of SM -_-;; gonna have to take the staff, it sells for around 1g to vendors >.>

Comment by Allakhazam

I was confused by this chain and the one that leads to Mage's Wand, which is a separate quest chain. I'll post on that chain under that quest. Here goes, for the 'Celestial Power' chain:

1. It's not listed here, but there's a Horde quest like the Alliance-side 'Journey to the Marsh' that you get from the mage trainer in Ogrimmar, sending you to Tabetha, who is southeast of Brackenwall Village in Dustwallow Marsh, almost to the coastline.
2. Tabetha gives you 'Infernal Orb' that sends you to Desolace to get an orb off a Burning Blade summoner at Mannoroc Coven. Summoners are level 38-39 warlocks with imp pets - kill the imp first, fast. Beware of demon adds here. Take orb back to Tabetha.
3. Tabetha summons (just outside her shack) a level 40 elite demon from the orb that you have to kill for 'The Exorcism' quest. This thing hits hard for its level and is a pure melee mob.
4. Tabetha then wants you to kill the Obsidian Sentinel (42 elite) just inside the back entrance of Uldaman in Badlands ('Power in Uldaman' quest). He drops the power source you take back to Tabetha. This mob a. reflects spells, including the shaman Purge spell, back onto you, and b. splits itself, making more level 42 elites. The split-off mobs also reflect spells back to you - just melee this thing down. I saw as many as 2-3 at a time, counting the original - see the thread under his listing here at Alla's.
5. Tabetha then gives you 'Mana Surges' quest. Do NOT accept this quest til you are ready. Once you accept, she goes outside her shack and starts the event that pops a chain of level 40 (non-elite) water elementals. You have to kill 12 in 10 minutes: yes, there is a timer. These things are frostbolt casters and will not come to you to melee unless you stop them casting somehow, like a silence or a shaman earth shock. Frost protection potions would be good here. As other posters in these threads have said, the first 2 elementals will aggro on you but the rest will not. You can pull singles from the group of them that pop by Tabetha's shack - there are usually as many as 4 up at a time. Once 12 are dead, do not kill more - run to Tabetha and finish the quest. If you're in a group they can kill more while you run to Tabetha.
6. After the elementals are dead, Tabetha gives you the 'Celestial power' quest, where you choose the Orb or the staff. In my opinion, the Orb is the way to go - up to 1200 mana on a clickie off-hander = yes! Go get an Illusionary Rod in Scarlet monsatery library off Doan for your staff at this level.

Comment by Allakhazam

which one...

Comment by Allakhazam

nubs l2 Zum'rah's Vexing Cane
using any other non epic staff in lvl 40 would be just plain stupid...

Comment by Allakhazam

Well if you look at the stats,
Hypnotic Blade and the orb would give you all together +22 spell damage as does the staff
The staff only gives +8 Int whereas the blade gives 8 int and 3 spirit + the 3 int from the orb, and you have the special ability. So the orb is much more useful than the staff. Only other thing the staff has on blade is DPS :P

PS: most people dont want to pay for epic gear unless they are twinking or its end gear stuff. This is free stuff.

Comment by Allakhazam

I recently re-rolled on a different server and am playing a mage now. At lvl 39, I've found that all the mage class quests (wand quest excluded) are really only worth the xp you get.

For the sake of argument. The Celestial Orb is the superior choice for these quest rewards. The stats are modest. Good for a spell dmg mage. But as previously stated in the posts on this quest. The 'Use' function is awesome.

Currently I use a Hypnotic Blade & Prophetic Cane. Which come from Doan and a quest reward. Collectively I get 20 int from them and that makes them superior in my book over the Illusionary Rod.

I'd contemplate using the Celestial Orb when I'm out grinding since I'm kinda specced for xp farming with instant arcane explosion. And any extra spell damage gear helps the killing go faster.

Comment by Allakhazam

The Orb is definitely the superior choice for me, as a spellpower mage.
The int+6 is ok, but what really shines is the spellpower+13 and mana recharge ability. The mana recharge abiility makes it superior to Spirit of Aquamentas, another great offhand.
Both are replaced once you get your hands on a Rod of the Ogre Magi from Dire Maul tribute, though.

Comment by Allakhazam

Is this ally only?

Comment by Allakhazam

Can't decide, wich one I should take. I normally use staff, and that staff with +22 spell dmg is nice, since im spell damage specced. Illusionary Rod kinda sucks. But also, that orb has a nice Use -ability, and thats 13+ spell dmg also. So I thought I would get the sword with +1% spell crit from Maraudon. But also, the staff is really nice... Somebody can help me with this hard decision?

Comment by Allakhazam

Spell power mage? All mages should get spell damage. it's much more important than intellect because you tend to have a lot already. the orb + hypnotic blade are awesome. Spell damage is as important to a mage as agility is to a rogue.

Comment by Allakhazam

It appears there is alot of different opinions about the quest rewards...

i play a mage, lvl 70 atm, and i found the following advice to help me chose quest rewards...

first look at what will u will benefit the most out of, like wat is the biggest upgrade...(mages i find need 2 sets of gear, 1 for instances (+ spell dmg, + int), and the other for pvp/grinding/questing (+ stam, + spell dmg, +int)

next, look at what u will use the most, or will last u for a long time (as pointed out, Zum'rah's Vexing Cane is easy to get in Zul'Farrak)

i found this to help my choice to chose my reward...i went the celestial orb...i was still using at lvl 60...and i still have it in my bag, as the use has no real eqivilant...i used hypnotic blade until i got the 1h blade from Maraudon...

as far as stats go, all i need is int (dont really need stam to much) and the orb has the use...which is 40-120 intellect i might point out...fair enuf it has a CD but with evocation, i never seemed to go out of mana in a battle...

the orb i think is far superior, but that is just my opinion...hope this helped u all out a bit :)

Comment by Allakhazam

wtf, they both sux bigtime

Comment by Allakhazam

why does it increase healing? mages don't have healing spells...that's why these rewards suck. when you have +dmg and +healing the number is less. when you have one alone the number is much more.

Comment by Allakhazam

Honestly, do the quest for the exp. As far as the rewards... vendor trash.

Get this instead

Illusionary Rod drops really commonly from Doan in the library of Scarlet Monastery and is one of the best caster weapons you'll find until at least the 50s. My warlock used it until eventually replacing it with Rod of the Ogre Magi in DM.

Edited, Sep 4th 2006 at 5:32pm EDT by ShadySnake

Comment by Allakhazam

The staff was obviously made for pvp. That plus spell damage is great for a damage spec. At this level finding a good sword for + fire/arcane/frost is kinda hard. That means that to use the orb along with a 1hander is not the best idea for spell damage. The orb is meant for grinding and is a good option and rules with that mana use. Personaly i do pvp at this level simply to break up monotony of grinding. Im waiting till 60 to pvp. Then there wont be any dumbass 12 year olds pvping at lvl 31. Wtf are they retarded?

Comment by Allakhazam

so many people don't understand the fact that +22 spell dmg > 8 stam and 9 int

Comment by SeekerWi

Tabetha herself hints you to take the Orb. And it's foolish to do otherwise.

Orb still gets used in high-end raids and BGs as an extra mana source. Staff is vendor junk almost immediately.

Comment by Punie

Quest chain begins with Return to the Marsh

Comment by RomticGayMale

For those wanting to level the quickest using consumables and whatnot, this staff can use Wizard Oil which requires level 40 and can receive the +40 spell damage enchant from BC

Comment by Vulkanian

If you're doing hardcore and wondering which one you should take, the answer is simple. If you only care about hitting 60 and nothing else, then take the staff. Chances are you don't have a good weapon to pair it with the orb unless you got Hypnotic Blade out of SM. However, if you do plan on trying to do endgame content then take the orb regardless.

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You should be proud of yourself, <name>. Many mages have fallen to the creatures you faced.

The Celestial Orb is ready. Or if you'd like I can mount it atop a staff. It's up to you. I'd prefer the orb, but who am I to judge?

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